Liftgate Race Trailer Review! The Truth about Racing out of a Stacker
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A suggestion….. put a d ring at the end of the lift gate and a snatch block. Hook the winch cable up to rear bumper and you can pull the car out onto the gate. Maybe??
That is a good idea, and I do recall someone I was working with that had a setup much like what you are describing...
Whats up Tim Nash , didn't know you watch HTF , cool suggestion and hoping for a win your way too
I’ve thought about that, Nash; the problem is the lift gate flips out for a reason. The car is longer than the lift gate so to install a pulley you wouldn’t be able to strap the back bumper bar as the car is too long if that makes sense.
@@curtlyons9235 yep that does, but, it would get the car over the small hump in the trailer yay or nay
Yeah. If you can even get the car halfway out on a winch it seems like it would be a big help.
We also just purchased a lift gate and also had the issue with it leaking off. We then rebuilt the cylinder and it still leaks off. But we have learned that if you raise the liftgate all the way up like 5 inches above that 2nd floor that it will lock in there and not leak off. I hope this helps. Have a great day!
Should be a place to put the big lower pins back in when gate is up so it can't drop
Sending my condolences and prayers for your grandma.
Y’all, we will see ya at fairbury for the PDC July 30-31!! It’s an awesome place, bring lots of merch!! 🍻🍻 Cheers
Collaboration vlogs. Heck yeah
The Hunt the Front comedy special. It was fun to watch.
PVC racks for the springs about the only thing you can do with the gears is Peg them. For your door drop there should be two holes to put the catch pins in. 3in on PVC.
Build a shelf for the gears is a better option
Don't forget to take the restricter plate out before you race again.
@@tomhutchins1046 you’re cool 😎
There should be holes for the pins to be put in to keep the gate up. If I remember correctly, you actually raise it up past the second floor, put pins in, the rest the gate on them.
"When two dissimilar metals are touching, the electrolyte will jump-start the corrosion process." Steel bolt`s, aluminum heads, Use some anti-seize on the bolt threads to prevent future bolt probs..Same with spark plug threads (very small amount needed)
Consider installing a Safety Chain from the upper floor of the trailer to the Lift Gate when you are working under it. That should be easy to do and provide a little safety if a hydraulic hose should blow out.
Y'ALL ARE GOING TO FAIRBURY??? WOOOHOOOOO, Let's goooooo, I'm so excited
best thing to do is get with someone that has alot of time with that type of trailer and have them give you help on how they do it. great job guys keep up the great videos from Minnesota
I’m sure y’all will remember to remove the restrictor plate but just wanted to send a reminder just in case. Love the channel and content!!
When you are at the track check out those guys trailers!! There must be someone you know that has a stacker. I still can’t believe a race team without a welder!! Weld up the exhaust and put it back on!! A lot of time you guys make things more difficult then need be.
Yep, MIG it and off you go.
@@tomhutchins1046 I'd just MIG it at the track and get a new one when I get home. Anybody can MIG, it takes practice to TIG. My wife MIGS.
There should be a way to lock the lift gate when it's up. I never keep my hydraulics under load, why wear out the pistons. If there is a small leak, it will just get worse.
Aren't the louvered doors made for gas or batteries? Wouldn't want something that emits fumes to be in an enclosed space that small.
You should shut everything off before starting the generator. Never turn off with a load on it.
I cry a little inside everytime ya'll slam that gate down.
Yes...it is..I cant believe how much..you all have come in a short time...your racing program is growing..you have 3 great cars..no junk...your competing with the pros...that super car..is So fast...I'm glad I've had the opportunity to watch you all...grow...Go HTF....
HTF!!! Y'all are freaking awesome!!!! Please don't stop what y'all are doing.....
Looks like its more of a hassle than the black trailer. Beautiful set-up y'all got though and congratulations to HTF crew! Y'all deserved to have a stacker! My son and I love to watch all y'alls videos. Would love to see y'all come to Davenport Speedway in Davenport, Iowa and come run with the big boys and good payouts also and ALOT of competition!
Well, I don't have any ideas that have not been mentioned already. I would make some type of safety mechanism to insure that liftgate does not fall on you. Great video. Don't forget about that restrictor plate. God bless.
Hi from SC.. Love the video.. If the toter is straining carrying one car, it probably won't be a good idea to try to go a fairly long distance from home the first time taking 2 cars.. Congratulations on how far y'all have come... SAFETY FIRST!!!! Certainly can't have any of y'all being injured!! Keep the video's coming 🤗❤️ Really happy with that 2nd place because the car is intact!!! GOD BLESS EACH OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AND CREW NOW AND ALWAYS 🙏 HTF and looking for ANOTHER WIN🏁🏆🏁
I was thinking the same thing put the pins back in someplace to take the pressure off the hydraulics if anything call the mfg give them the serial number and they should be able to tell you everything about that trailer
Oh yeah, hook up a master disconnect to the generator. That way, you can completely remove the load before start up and shut down. I learned the hard way. Started mine up one day with the air compressor still plugged in, and the added strain, couples with low/no oil pressure at start up, slung the rod right out the side of the block!! AND, DONT FORGET THE RESTRICTOR PLATE!!! Good luck at Whynot this weekend!!!
Watching you shut down generator made me cringe. It's not good on the circuit boards in the generator when shut down under a load. You should disconnect all power from generator before shutting down. Same goes when first starting up generator. Don't start under a load.
This is the truest comment !!!!!! I cant imagine that all that is hardwired , has to be switches somewhere
It’ll smoke one fast. Also a generator you really don’t know everything about it’s past or honestly I never start one without checking the oil and water. Those Onan gensets are pretty dependable and I’ve been on 36 years on shrimp boats and many different generators from 1, 2 and 4 cylinder hand crank lister generators to 6 cylinder Detroit 671 generators and I’d have to say I’ve seen people kill quite a few not check oil but most of them were ruined or needed repairs from starting and shutting them down under a load.
Be better of yall lay the spoiler down. We had to do it for the steering arm to work in our rig. We got Scott Blomquist old trailer
Make sure every light is lite on truck trailer dot can fine you for every light not operating
If your coming to Fairbury i will definitely come to meet y'all.. Thats only 45 minutes from me so i will have to root you all on 😊... We feel special this week getting several video's now don't spoil us too much Johnathon, but very excited to see y'all as much as possible so good luck at Whynot
Pro tip: put Velcro on back of control box and inside trailer to hold controller while you move the car on the ramp.
For your gear situation i would use the Allstar Performance Gear Box. You can put multiple gears in each box which is very helpful. We have got 4 boxes and it holds all of the gears from a 4.86 to the top gear.
looks like I'm going to Fairbury. See you there
-To store springs in my trailer, I made a " pigeon hole " type rack from PVC pipe. Just get pipe that will fit your springs inside, lay them side by side, and prime and glue them together. The first one I made by stacking the rows and just using PVC cement. Springs being heavy and roads being bumpy meant we found a broken spring rack when we got to the track. The second one was built the same way, but we put it between 3/8 plywood walls. This was used for years. hope this helped. As for the gears, remember the old VHS tapes and the racks they were stored in? Build the same style rack scaled up for gear cases. Caution, just use cases with center pins to keep the gears apart.
They sell those cases. Most race shops should carry them.
Springs-Plywood and some pvc at a slope and cover the face with carpet. Super easy and will look great, put the dyno next to it in that cabinet. Put shocks next to it the same way. We always just made a tray and stacked the gears up right or a pin board style on the side of the cabinet.
For your springs, use 6 inch pvc pipe bolted together. Search Bauer PVC air bottle holder. Good luck!
Cut a couple pieces of extruded aluminum and put them between the floor and the gate while it’s open till ya get time or money to get the whole hydraulic system serviced
Now y'all need a good wrap on your trailer showcasing all three cars. "Jesus Lives" on the back. Congrats guys!!!
It's not legal
@@kevinpotts151 Not Legal? Why?
It's not allowed under RV status if they put stickers on it will be commercial and then you have to keep log book and commercial insurance dmv is cracking down hard these days...competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/4275-florida-dot-race-rig-enforcements.
You guys should come race at the Silver Dollar Nationals at I-80 Speedway sometime.
suggestion... put a hook on the side/back of the trailer on the second level to hang your remote so it doesn't fall on the ground.
A suggestion for when you guys are going up to the top to get the car. Loop the remote around the long chain holding the door up. And it will stay up there while you unload.
You can get round PVC pipe for your springs.
What we have done with headers,is towards the back around the turndown area? Weld a washer on it and hook a stiff spring on it to the chassis,helps carry some of the weight!!
That’s a new pump in that trailer. That gate always came down a little bit. That shelf is where I also put the gears. I built that shelf. Was a ac unit in there at one point in time. I still have the shelf for the springs that sat in there. Don’t slam that ramp down like that. I had it broke on me once and had to replace it. We bought that trailer brand new.
Get a locked toolbox for your gears and label the outside drawers and for your lift gate it wouldn't hurt to get a couple hand crank load bars that you can put under the doors towards the trailer that way it would help with taking pressure away from your pumps and use load bars to secure cars in the trailer
HRP makes a panel you can mount on the wall or maybe a cabinet door for the gears.
Its just growing pains! You guys are good at this so hang in there.As for all the comments about a bigger motor I guess the move at senoia proved that its not always about a bigger motor.JJ and crew made a great call to dial back the power and it payed off.As for the nemesis at the track,its always good to have a reason to get better it makes you hungry and hungry is good! When you win the day its just that much sweeter! Keep up the good works and keep the faith it will happen. As always GOD BLESS BE SAFE AND REMEMBER HTF NATION IS ALWAYS THERE!
I would recommend getting the hydraulic cylinders rebuilt
For your safety I would fashion a mechanical lockout to prevent that lift gate from sagging. I wouldn't work under that gate as is, looks too sketchy. Enjoy watching you guys. Good luck and God Bless
Excellent job gettin the sponsor banners in the videos.
I don't know how the lift gate works but it seems that it should be able to be locked into place as a safety precaution in case a line or seal blows out. I have investigated a fatality or two in my career with OSHA when someone was under something held up by hydraulics that failed. Not a pretty sight when that happens.
In the cabinet for your springs you can use PVC pipe stack them on top each other
What I've always found the best thing to do with those stackers is to keep the tires on some sort of wheelie rack in the hallway of the trailer then when you get to the track you just wheel it out and put it up top where the car was
You can put the gears in the bottom drawer of the tool drawer section. Then use dividers to organize them on their sides spine up. Then use decals or labels to put ratios on spine of gear case. You can put 4.86 sets on left and 4.11 on the right if you carry both
I see a steering buddy in your future
Man TH-cam is paying real good to be able to be picking up these big boy toys, haulers nice be blessed , thanks BigAl California.
Use the steering extension but instead of a steering wheel on the end, fabricate a T-Handle.
Thy can’t fabricate a T HANDLE remember a race team without a welder 👩🏭
PVC pipe bolted together for the springs. Leave the front bolt long coming from the bottom of the pvc up to hold the spring in place
GET YA A WINE COOLER FOR THE SPRINGS ! SHOULD BE ALRIGHT
The more you use the trailer it will get easier. The 2nd chain is a good idea. Good Luck this weekend.
I noticed Mr Cox left his West Virginia tags on the hauler👍
We used old plastic vhs cases to hold our gears. We would write the ratios on the out side so it made it easier to find.
Practice , it will be second nature in time , your setup is coming along , proud of you all .😀😀
You guys could put two chains that hook into d-rings at the front of the lift gate that attach to the trailer itself to hold the lift gate from dropping down and just set the chain length however long you want to have good working clearance below and it would serve as your extra chains to help hold it too
You could make foam shadow boards for the gears similar to how you would do foam boards for toolboxs. You could go as far as etching metal tags to label all the spots for the gears for quick grab and go.
As people have said the cylinders can cause the deck to drop. But I would change out the spool valve on the power pack first. Fixed a lot of deck dropping issues with spool valves. Also change the oil out, never hurts to do that on equipment new to you.
Great singing fellas! 😂
Concider this for support, some kinda post under 4 corners. Of the 1st section from trailor to the outer section take All Strain off your hydrolic system and safer, creatively present place for T Shirts to be hung., lights, - the car will be out past the last post/support.
Pro Tip you guys are going to burn the pump out by leaving it running while just sitting there wrap the controller around the chain while up there also they make a locking pin where you drill a hole under the posts of the door and you set the back of the door on it so it doesn’t seep down springs they make a cabinet insert where you put pvc pipes in it
I watched one roll off years ago.. Front bumper stuck on the lift rear was on the ground.. all the way up... He still won national points that year...
Keep on learning the trailer guys. Now that was a funny video😂
We had a cabinet that had rods for your gears that came straight out and then hooks for the springs and have cotter pins so they won't come loose during transportation, but we had a cabinet that was mounted up front by the tire rack
Hey guys. Might carch you live at Fairbury. The best concept ive seen for gear storage was a shelf that you could put on a pair of heavy duty sliders. Then each set of gears sits on a welded stem with the big gear on bottom and little on top. Then you can lable tbe gear in front of each one . I will try to draw a pic .
I’ve seen a lot of people use pvc pipe to hold the springs it’s be cheap and easy to make. The gear situation could do a few things. I saw one guy bolt a piece of flat stock to wall and he had a bunch of basically studs welded off it at an angle upwards and it hung like 10 sets of gears
I like that trailer plenty of room.good luck this weekend.
Should be using ARP stainless STUDS instead of header bolts. Have been using them for over 30 years and never had an issue. Never have to mess around to align a header, just slide it on and be sure to use the washers and nuts that come with them. I use the 12 point nuts, they have 12 or 6 point to chose from. You may want change your mind before you start tearing threads out of the cyl. heads....
I'm so pumped for you all to come to Illinois at the end of the month. Bring a lot of large shirts. I'll be there to meet the HTF crew. Dont be sad if you don't enough for the Illinois boys.
We use pvc tubes for the springs with a steel rack built around them to hold everything in place
For the springs you can use PVC pipe with caps on one end. Screw those to Plywood, cut to fit the place you have for them.
You guys should ask to see other people's stackers to see how they do it and what they did for storage
Yeah, there's actually a couple videos on here of stacker trailer tours with some of the racers.
Ya’ll should get some aluminum plating, 1/8”, to put on exterior porch where the door closing chains hang to keep from scratching the walls up.
Or plastic (different colors available), it's changeable at any given point - think roll plastic (skirting/trim)... add sponsor logos even :) (or Wife/SO quotes or sayings [read as "warnings" - I mean "reminders"] Great Idea. Like the way you think!
Or just add a couple of hooks/ loops up top and never drop the chain
Mike gary Or you could just do it like every S&S in the world. Very effective and relatively cheap.
i love the sound of 180 headers and help the valves open little more hp that is what you need
For the springs, attach pvc pipe to some marine plywood with an o.d. that your springs will fit in and slide your springs into the tubes for transport. Or you could have it build in aluminum, either way tubes that your springs will fit in for transport. Kinda the same for the gear sets, a rack for the gear sets stand up on end with the ratios written on the end of the box/carton showing.
You put steel rods in place of the shocks or use a ratchet strap to pull down on the car from the shock mount on the rear end so it sucks the car down and it still rolls just no up and down it’s locked in place
I would shorten the tire rack too and add 2nd chains on the ramp, better safe then sorry.
We usually just weld the header up when we break them like that.
@@tomhutchins1046 out of all the buddies they have someone should have a welder they could barrow.
@@tomhutchins1046 I never could have raced without atleast a 110 welder and a smart man would use a cheap small automotive Rubber exhaust mount instead of mounting that thing solid with all the vibration I noticed the mount you have is on the 90 degree turn. So back that up to the collector or use 2
@@tomhutchins1046 you seem to know everything about everything on this video guy. I’m super impressed 🤦🏻♂️
@@tomhutchins1046 I used a 2 inch steel rubber mount and never broke a header after that worked great so I'm not going comprise on my statement.
Nice set-up be nice to see y'all at Screven Motor Speedway for the rebel yell with 2 cars
YES!!!! PLEASE!!!!
I've been here since 30k subs and its amazing on how far you guys have came on your career!
I am subscribed to you guys and I watch all your videos
Get a bolt bin to hold the springs. Make the rear tool chest mobile, or pull it out and fit yours in its place. Definitely get the hydraulics looked at, but my suggestion would be either leave it down or make some legs to support it, you don’t want it to fail while people are underneath it. And lastly, surely you could make one of the other cabinets house the smasher, possibly make it on one side of the cabinet you showed the springs in now, with the other side as storage.
Loop the controller around the chain on the lift gate so it won't fall.
When opening the door hold it closed and let it almost all the way down to put tension on the chains. Then pull the top of the door open and start to raise it up that will keep it from banging and flapping around. If you pull it open as soon as it clears the channel at the top it has to much slack in the chains and bangs around.
Use metal studs light gauge to do any kind of framing very easy to work with
That is awesome that your coming to fairbury for the pdc I live five 5 miles from that truck I really hope I get to meet you guys you will absolutely live that track
You shouldn't be getting any hydraulic release at all in a perfect world. But having it leak that much in that amount of time is dangerous. I for sure would be figuring out a way to keep that gate at the same height all the time. It could be life or death.
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We have the tether on our lift gate and it works great never had a problem with it
For the springs have mount pvc pipes and just have the springs either fit in side so all you have to do is slide them out of be able to fit them over the pipes so it just slides off
You didn't mess up closing the door, you guys are all too short, lol Just teasing. I feel that the trailer has too many cabinets for the stuff you guys need to take. Our stacker only had half the storage, and we could put 2 cars up top and one on the bottom too if needed
You should show us a video on how you clean that stacker trailer
We always put our spring smasher on the rear. It was always on the left side rear of trailer. We mounted ours there.
You need a hook up cable to run off the mains at home. Put the springs in shorts lengths of drain pipe . Just put the gears in a one of the shallow drawers in the tool cabinets.
Supported or unsupported headers will have a tendency to crack at transition points due to the harmonics, Get a good welder and keep inspecting them. As far as the gears, most boxes are the same size, Small box tubing and light weight angle iron, make a rack for the gears.
You guys should drill into the thing and put a bar so you can slide the gears on