You can also use the internal recording buffers of the Flex tracks to record the loop, edit it and then be able to switch with the fader from the original to the recorded one (perhaps sliced with triangle (or sine designed) lfo set to "hold" to achieve a controlled slice changes. If setted properly you can get variations at each passing trig). have fun!✌️✌️
"it’s not meant to be (a drum machine) “ It’s meant to be nearly anything you want it to be, and do a great job at it. Maybe it’ll fall a little short as a drum synthesizer compared to dedicated drum synths, (Though with single cycle waveforms, fast envelopes and effects like the comb filter, it can generate some great percussion) - But as a straight sample based drum machine, nothing can touch it imo.
As someone who's been on the hardware and octatrack train a long time, it's interesting to see you approaching it. I certainly wish there had been videos like this around back when I was trying to get my head around the mk1!
coming from the digitakt the fact you can preview your re triggers because they are baked in seems great. also the sample length, slicing etc all looks great. might just have to get one 😊😊
Thanks for your vids. I will continue to watch. But after literally a year of researching Elektron boxes, I'm going with the Roland SP-404 mk2. Seems much more user- and guitar-friendly. Looking forward to your review!
As you said, you really have to accept that it will be quite random if you mess with the starting points via LFOs. It's a bit too much for my more orderly brain I guess, even though I could see myself using something like this momentarily to spice things up. At one point I'm going to experiment with one-shots with different sounds for different parts that I can change between. It sounds good in theory (and in my head), but we'll see (or hear).
you can have a "controlled chaos" over the lfo's since u can design it as u want :) Or set a recording buffer, record the loop, slice it and assign manually the slice u want, or automatically . You can then switch between the original loop and the mangled one. Useful for fills on the go, for example :)
Haha, as soon as you hit play on that loop, I was like "Oh, I see why he has trouble programming beats he wants." I've been programming beats for years and I would have a hard time programming something like that :)
We have come a long way since the day's of Roland drum machines of the 80's Well done demo my new musical friend well done you earned my sub today big like !!!!!!!
its not a drum machine, its a sampler, mixer, sequencer, fx unit.... and it can be a drum machine if you want it too., It can be a pony unicorn and ice cream, it is what you want it to be.
Haas anything been put in world wide that’s more interesting than beats /melody etc ,,,, but are they like snowflakes..//are beats breaks endless ..perhaps they are with layers ..but I feel that music has turned a corner that loops itself../frequency Melodie ..after all Beatles stole all the guitar chords
Beats are very busy and don’t leave a lot of room in the mix for other instruments. A real drummer can only make 4 sounds at any one time. The rest is frankly overkill.
Idk I think maybe it would be wiser to have the drums progressively lead into this much «business » since it is indeed very busy, it’s rush hour in New York like damn, that way listeners would not just be getting hit with a solid wall of drums, on top of that if it were a little less busy at some points, there would be more room for melodic elements and pauses. I run into problems where no matter how variations I make for the drum line, it quickly sounds repetitive to some, and because it’s a bit overwhelming, it’s a bit difficult for the casual listener to really recognize and appreciate the changes of these drum variations, slightly more simple listeners may just qualify it as a big bunch of drums they didn’t understand, yet hear a melody that has a pretty rigid container to flow thus making that aspect sound underdeveloped because the number of options will be somewhat more restricted in order to leave all this room for percussions if it’s to be present from beginning to end. Still sounds pretty sick though but I don’t know if I’d be comfortable with so much and I’m dead certain that mixing /mastering track sounding like this will end up being a really intricate task for either one of the folliowing: a playback on a car stereo, a playback on a clubs huge system, a playback in headphones or a playback on just a smartphone internal speaker. Guaranteed one of these types of playback won’t be spot on perfect.. plus I’m even willing to say that adding in other melodic instruments without being extra careful will come and muddy some of these drum hits.
I had okta and i had to say it's a shit drum machine, yeah yeah - it could play samples, but okta doesn't have 1/4 that analog rythm has. I dont know how that works for Fjaak, but to me everything that goes from okta for drums is liveless, and flat.
You can also use the internal recording buffers of the Flex tracks to record the loop, edit it and then be able to switch with the fader from the original to the recorded one (perhaps sliced with triangle (or sine designed) lfo set to "hold" to achieve a controlled slice changes. If setted properly you can get variations at each passing trig). have fun!✌️✌️
i use it for a drum machine for my live sets since it was released ! perfect for that
"it’s not meant to be (a drum machine) “
It’s meant to be nearly anything you want it to be, and do a great job at it. Maybe it’ll fall a little short as a drum synthesizer compared to dedicated drum synths, (Though with single cycle waveforms, fast envelopes and effects like the comb filter, it can generate some great percussion) - But as a straight sample based drum machine, nothing can touch it imo.
As someone who's been on the hardware and octatrack train a long time, it's interesting to see you approaching it. I certainly wish there had been videos like this around back when I was trying to get my head around the mk1!
Thanks - appreciate it!
This sounds amazing and totally crazy. Good Job!👏🏼💪🏼
coming from the digitakt the fact you can preview your re triggers because they are baked in seems great. also the sample length, slicing etc all looks great. might just have to get one 😊😊
Strong meat beat manifesto vibes. Love it all!
Thanks for your vids. I will continue to watch.
But after literally a year of researching Elektron boxes, I'm going with the Roland SP-404 mk2. Seems much more user- and guitar-friendly.
Looking forward to your review!
I was eyeing the 404mk2 before I bought the OT. looks really fun and inspiring, esp with all the fx. have fun man!
Love your video 😊
Thank you!!
Great video 💙
Thank you!
Octa is life! 👽🛸
As you said, you really have to accept that it will be quite random if you mess with the starting points via LFOs. It's a bit too much for my more orderly brain I guess, even though I could see myself using something like this momentarily to spice things up.
At one point I'm going to experiment with one-shots with different sounds for different parts that I can change between. It sounds good in theory (and in my head), but we'll see (or hear).
you can have a "controlled chaos" over the lfo's since u can design it as u want :) Or set a recording buffer, record the loop, slice it and assign manually the slice u want, or automatically . You can then switch between the original loop and the mangled one. Useful for fills on the go, for example :)
The demo and jam are intense!
Reminded me of Daft Punk's Tron soundtrack, but higher energy.
Thanks for the high compliment!
Haha, as soon as you hit play on that loop, I was like "Oh, I see why he has trouble programming beats he wants." I've been programming beats for years and I would have a hard time programming something like that :)
We have come a long way since the day's of Roland drum machines of the 80's
Well done demo my new musical friend well done you earned my sub today big like !!!!!!!
Great track and THANKS for the amazing tips!
Thank you!
Where do you get these drum loop samples from if I may respectfully ask? I’d love to purchase some if are available as a sound pack online!
These are free samples from That Sound and Musicradar
Do you have a video where you show the process of recording you guitar in to the octatrack do you use a preamp or something?
Stay tuned for my next video which will show how I use the OT as a guitar fx box/looper! I use the Fractal FM3 for my guitar amps/effects
Excellent demonstration. Where are the drum sample/loops from, are they stock presets with the Octa or your own?
The drum loops are free samples from That Sound and Musicradar
Whoever said the OT isn’t a great drum machine obviously has zero clue.
I'm guessing nobody ever said that.
well yeah, but no one says that...
@teamcoalhapcharcoal the rytm samples though.
@@atetraxx I have heard and seen a lot of people say that unfortunately.
Where is this drum break from?
Some free sample pack, maybe from That Sound
less is more. perc. sounds a little too dense / cluttered... it's nice to have some space, as opposed to a wall of layered drum patterns
its not a drum machine, its a sampler, mixer, sequencer, fx unit.... and it can be a drum machine if you want it too., It can be a pony unicorn and ice cream, it is what you want it to be.
Haas anything been put in world wide that’s more interesting than beats /melody etc ,,,, but are they like snowflakes..//are beats breaks endless ..perhaps they are with layers ..but I feel that music has turned a corner that loops itself../frequency Melodie ..after all Beatles stole all the guitar chords
Beats are very busy and don’t leave a lot of room in the mix for other instruments. A real drummer can only make 4 sounds at any one time. The rest is frankly overkill.
Idk I think maybe it would be wiser to have the drums progressively lead into this much «business » since it is indeed very busy, it’s rush hour in New York like damn, that way listeners would not just be getting hit with a solid wall of drums, on top of that if it were a little less busy at some points, there would be more room for melodic elements and pauses. I run into problems where no matter how variations I make for the drum line, it quickly sounds repetitive to some, and because it’s a bit overwhelming, it’s a bit difficult for the casual listener to really recognize and appreciate the changes of these drum variations, slightly more simple listeners may just qualify it as a big bunch of drums they didn’t understand, yet hear a melody that has a pretty rigid container to flow thus making that aspect sound underdeveloped because the number of options will be somewhat more restricted in order to leave all this room for percussions if it’s to be present from beginning to end. Still sounds pretty sick though but I don’t know if I’d be comfortable with so much and I’m dead certain that mixing /mastering track sounding like this will end up being a really intricate task for either one of the folliowing: a playback on a car stereo, a playback on a clubs huge system, a playback in headphones or a playback on just a smartphone internal speaker. Guaranteed one of these types of playback won’t be spot on perfect.. plus I’m even willing to say that adding in other melodic instruments without being extra careful will come and muddy some of these drum hits.
I had okta and i had to say it's a shit drum machine, yeah yeah - it could play samples, but okta doesn't have 1/4 that analog rythm has. I dont know how that works for Fjaak, but to me everything that goes from okta for drums is liveless, and flat.