**Corrections** -Duke is completely instanced - you will NOT be able to teleport up the balcony to the mushrooms -Tempoross is instanced - you will NOT be able to teleport the top of the boat. -Tithe farm is instanced Sorry for the misinformation!
Great video! I initially thought I was dead set on Bankers Note, but this has made me reconsider a lot. On one hand I love the ability to just completely nullify the grind for several skills, but on the other hand, I’m planning on taking Wilderness… so much to decide on!
I don't think you'll regret either one! Like I said, banker's note is nice since you don't have to worry about using any brain power to utilize it to it's full potential - you just always are using it no matter what activity you're doing. I think with TR you have to think more about getting the most out of it which might stress some players out
Just note in the first weeks that people might wanna grief you and teleblock you just to mess around. It's whats making me consider picking BN with wildy
Moons may be a long run, but compared to barrows it has set protection, so you dont get dupes in a row. Should be fairly easy to green log it with boosted rates
I hope so! That's the one thing I'm nervous about farming out the sets, but Varlamore is 100% locked for me so I'll have to just take it in stride! :) It'll be fun to test an area that nobody has done in leagues before
@@JiroOSRS yeah at first I was hesitant since Mort and frem have overlap with jewelry and stonemasons shop but ultimately echo sol seems too fun not to try
@@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody 100% That's what I'm most excited about this whole leagues! My favorite boss by far, it's like a dream come true to just face him over and over again without waves
Yeah it's crazy how strong both of these relics are, luckily there's no "wrong choice" like many felt like last year a couple weeks after choosing fire sale
for quite a few of the recall options you listed, the answer is simply: it does not work in instances. that's why it will not work in stuff like tempoross. also for a bunch of boss strats you name (like for duke). I quote from the relic description: "The Crystal of Echoes cannot store coordinates whilst inside an instance". it doesn't work for a ton of things you listed.
You'll still be able to use it to heal to full and appear right outside most boss instances, but yeah you won't be able to teleport up to the balcony to the mushrooms or top of boat at tempoross. Sorry I didn't think through a couple of these thoroughly -
Blast furnace is probably way better with bankers note: Less than half the distance to run between where you deposit the ores and where you pick up the bars (no need to run to the bank) Less runs because you can deposit max coal in one go (so another drop in distance run)
I think Wilderness people are going to have a ton of fun with TR, infinite healing and speccing each other sounds hilarious. You could get a bunch of friends to teleport in to help you out of you have a saved location ahead of time, the possibilities are really endless here lol
I'm more thinking that you could teleport to right outside the instance in-between fights (might be quicker then waiting out the respawn timer), but yeah you definitely wouldn't be able to use it during the fight to recharge spec/hp
@@JiroOSRS I have a feeling that youre gonna have to kill all 3 to get loot from the boss since its going to be instanced. It wouldnt make sense if you could farm just 1 of them imo.
Not sure I fully agree with alot of the general skilling being better with bankers note as alot of the skills were bankstanding skills anyway overall i agree though
The idea with the bank standing skills is that you can do them WHILE you are out and about doing other things. Like I cut all my gems within pest control last leagues, or fletched logs in between boss respawning, etc. Also if you don't have a good smithing way in your region, making bars with coal is much less of a pain with bankers note unnoting the ores and coal at a furnace for example
on the point of grotesque guardians total recall wouldnt work anyways because it is an instance. great points throughout. who will win this go around =)
I will win! :P since I won't let Wenkey grief me this time haha. I think it should be able to just teleport you right outside with full stats, but I agree that banker's note might actually be better since it's a decent walk across the room to the bell, AND GG drop so much trash you'll probably want the note to keep it all in your bags
Dragon last year when they gave it a static point threshold, got 60k points. My plan is dragon every year now since I don't have to stress that the threshold keeps moving up every day like it used to
Most boss instances you can heal to full and appear right outside the instance, for example Muspah or Vorkath. You'll still be able to do that, and it would be quicker on say Muspah since he has such a long spawn timer. I'll admit I dropped the ball on Duke & Tempoross - you definitely wouldn't be able to teleport up the balcony to the top to start the fight or to the top of the ship at Temp.
Yeah I didn't think through this one enough - You'll still be able to use it to heal to full and appear right outside, but you definitely won't be able to teleport up to the balcony to the mushrooms
Sorry I didn't realize this - it threw me off thinking it wasn't an instance since you're in there with a bunch of other people. You definitely wouldn't be able to teleport to the top of the ship at Temp I'm trying to add a pinned correction.
Yeah sorry I didn't think through this one enough - it threw me off thinking it wasn't an instance since you're in there with a bunch of other people. You definitely wouldn't be able to teleport to the top of the ship at Temp
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**Corrections**
-Duke is completely instanced - you will NOT be able to teleport up the balcony to the mushrooms
-Tempoross is instanced - you will NOT be able to teleport the top of the boat.
-Tithe farm is instanced
Sorry for the misinformation!
Tithe farm is also instanced
@@TheReddaredevil223 sure enough :z didn't think that one did since it's physically on the map and you can see all the other people in there too
@@JiroOSRS You can't see other players there since the tithe farm rework
mushrooms and potions don't disappear this leagues at duke also
Great video! I initially thought I was dead set on Bankers Note, but this has made me reconsider a lot. On one hand I love the ability to just completely nullify the grind for several skills, but on the other hand, I’m planning on taking Wilderness… so much to decide on!
I don't think you'll regret either one! Like I said, banker's note is nice since you don't have to worry about using any brain power to utilize it to it's full potential - you just always are using it no matter what activity you're doing. I think with TR you have to think more about getting the most out of it which might stress some players out
Just note in the first weeks that people might wanna grief you and teleblock you just to mess around. It's whats making me consider picking BN with wildy
Moons may be a long run, but compared to barrows it has set protection, so you dont get dupes in a row. Should be fairly easy to green log it with boosted rates
I hope so! That's the one thing I'm nervous about farming out the sets, but Varlamore is 100% locked for me so I'll have to just take it in stride! :) It'll be fun to test an area that nobody has done in leagues before
@@JiroOSRS yeah at first I was hesitant since Mort and frem have overlap with jewelry and stonemasons shop but ultimately echo sol seems too fun not to try
@@WellDoneOnTheInternetEverybody 100% That's what I'm most excited about this whole leagues! My favorite boss by far, it's like a dream come true to just face him over and over again without waves
@@JiroOSRS it's very easy to greenlog moons in the main game, it will be no issue at all in leagues
Blast furnace is definately better with bankers note. You wouldnt need to bank at all just unnote ore drop it in collect and note bars repete.
I feel silly, that would definitely be better! I've never taken Fremmy before, but not sure how I didn't think through this better haha good call!
they had to buff total recall with giving the spec and prayer back and it still can't beat the GOAT! Bankers Note for Life! Great vid btw haha
Yeah it's crazy how strong both of these relics are, luckily there's no "wrong choice" like many felt like last year a couple weeks after choosing fire sale
for quite a few of the recall options you listed, the answer is simply: it does not work in instances. that's why it will not work in stuff like tempoross. also for a bunch of boss strats you name (like for duke).
I quote from the relic description: "The Crystal of Echoes cannot store coordinates whilst inside an instance". it doesn't work for a ton of things you listed.
You'll still be able to use it to heal to full and appear right outside most boss instances, but yeah you won't be able to teleport up to the balcony to the mushrooms or top of boat at tempoross. Sorry I didn't think through a couple of these thoroughly -
great video
Blast furnace is probably way better with bankers note:
Less than half the distance to run between where you deposit the ores and where you pick up the bars (no need to run to the bank)
Less runs because you can deposit max coal in one go (so another drop in distance run)
You're absolutely right, not sure where my brain was when I thought about this
wilderness youd wanna do the kopesh with total recall since it does full dmg to corp
Yeah total recall seems really good at pretty much all the wilderness content! Kopesh sounds really fun to use with it
total recall refilling spec means you can infinitely stunlock people with Dspear spec
so for that reason im picking it, i think itll be really funny
I think Wilderness people are going to have a ton of fun with TR, infinite healing and speccing each other sounds hilarious. You could get a bunch of friends to teleport in to help you out of you have a saved location ahead of time, the possibilities are really endless here lol
echo dagannoths are instanced so you cant just recall to get more spec.
I'm more thinking that you could teleport to right outside the instance in-between fights (might be quicker then waiting out the respawn timer), but yeah you definitely wouldn't be able to use it during the fight to recharge spec/hp
@@JiroOSRS I have a feeling that youre gonna have to kill all 3 to get loot from the boss since its going to be instanced. It wouldnt make sense if you could farm just 1 of them imo.
Not sure I fully agree with alot of the general skilling being better with bankers note as alot of the skills were bankstanding skills anyway overall i agree though
The idea with the bank standing skills is that you can do them WHILE you are out and about doing other things. Like I cut all my gems within pest control last leagues, or fletched logs in between boss respawning, etc. Also if you don't have a good smithing way in your region, making bars with coal is much less of a pain with bankers note unnoting the ores and coal at a furnace for example
on the point of grotesque guardians total recall wouldnt work anyways because it is an instance. great points throughout. who will win this go around =)
I will win! :P since I won't let Wenkey grief me this time haha. I think it should be able to just teleport you right outside with full stats, but I agree that banker's note might actually be better since it's a decent walk across the room to the bell, AND GG drop so much trash you'll probably want the note to keep it all in your bags
What's the highest you've ever finished in a League?
Dragon last year when they gave it a static point threshold, got 60k points. My plan is dragon every year now since I don't have to stress that the threshold keeps moving up every day like it used to
i feel like you used so many instance examples for use case of total recall. doesn't it say it does not work in ANY instance?
yeah i was literally thinking the same thing... unfortunately this guy really didn't do his due diligence
Most boss instances you can heal to full and appear right outside the instance, for example Muspah or Vorkath. You'll still be able to do that, and it would be quicker on say Muspah since he has such a long spawn timer. I'll admit I dropped the ball on Duke & Tempoross - you definitely wouldn't be able to teleport up the balcony to the top to start the fight or to the top of the ship at Temp.
duke is instanced xoxo
Yeah I didn't think through this one enough - You'll still be able to use it to heal to full and appear right outside, but you definitely won't be able to teleport up to the balcony to the mushrooms
Rip Wrath runes. Kandarin is dead
They've got to be cooking up something for Kandarin right? RIGHT?? Too much purposeful killing of it going on
Tempoross isn't an instance?
Sorry I didn't realize this - it threw me off thinking it wasn't an instance since you're in there with a bunch of other people. You definitely wouldn't be able to teleport to the top of the ship at Temp I'm trying to add a pinned correction.
it definitely wont work at tempoross its an instance
Yeah sorry I didn't think through this one enough - it threw me off thinking it wasn't an instance since you're in there with a bunch of other people. You definitely wouldn't be able to teleport to the top of the ship at Temp
Misinformation the video
Shut up loser