Tips From A Gun Store: 9mm vs. .40 S&W
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I couldn't pick between the two so I bought a 9mm and 40s&w
Variety is the spice of life!
Since you bought the 40 it can be converted into nine mill by simply swapping out the barrel, but the nine mill cannot be converted to the 40 so you sir have two guns in one
That's what I did lol
Facts
@@foxtrot_four7941 too much work swapping out barrels just get both
40 all day everyday
Yessir
You pay more money and hunt ammo if you want but I’ll keep my 9mm.
You do realize you’re only talking about 20ft lbs more energy, right?
I’ll ask you the same question as the others
What do you think a 40 can do that a 9mm can’t do?
Nothing
Stay safe
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
cope@@miker258
@@miker258 what???? 20 ftlbs?? more like over 100Ftlbs... 40 is 25-35% more size and energy which is ALOT. Even when you add +p+ ammo it is still weaker than standard .40.. Hyper 9mm +p+ 9mm goes up to 465 Ftlbs which is very powerful, but the .40 goes up to 601Ftlbs which is over 100ftbls more. The difference is big!!!
@@miker25840 is a bigger bullet an jhps expand bigger than a 9mm does so it does more damage 😂 which drops someone quicker than a 9mm
I'm a 40 guy ! However my edc is usually 9mm but my bedside gun is always my 40 !
Yep same here
Same here.
9mm is typically my edc in the summer. .40 is my edc the rest if the year. And .40 is always my bedside (and rest of the home) gun.
@@Mojo32get a .45.
.40 for 2 legged pests 10mm for 4 legged
I grew up on 40s so they comprise the vast majority of my carry selection
You can put a heavier recoil spring in the 40 to make it feel like a nine
Send a build
For hiking I like 40. For normal carry, 9
.40 S&W for the win 🥇! 155gr -165gr @1100-1200fps with 450-500+ft-Lbs is perfect; and all 180gr ammo is subsonic already. Literally a perfectly balanced round, but I’m biased 😂
It depends on the scenario. If its a war scenario i want a 9mm, much easier to scavenge ammunition for your weapon. Just randomly getting my home broken into amd have to defend it, hand me my 40
War scenario, scavenge ammo? Lol! Someone’s been watching too many post-apocalyptic movies lol!
@@darrtrubbI mean he’s not wrong. 9mm is more common among conceal carriers than .40.
It’s simple math. You have 10 dead bodies then probably 8 of them are going to have 9mm over .40. Lmao
@@gunlover5564 🤦🏽♂️
@@darrtrubbyeah world war 1 and 2' and Vietnam never took guns and ammo off dead people. Maybe you nee age soft army boys are getting little spoiled with that government money. Oh wait most of you in the army now are soiled frat boys running from a felony and will never see real war.
@@gunlover5564this isnt a video game fam😂
.40 & 9mm are not that far off in price now days. Also the 9mm might expand BUT the .40 will never shrink
9mm rounds are half the price as .40, sir...
@@yourface3154 not where I live. Not the ammo brand I get. A box of 25 9mm cost the same as the 20 .40 Cal...
I use Hornady Critical Defense and Speer gold dot only... Unless I'm practicing at the range then I use Blazer or federal...
Carry what you like man... I just think for me and a good amount of people the .40 is better... Not everyone but a lot...
I like my XD40 because I can buy a .357 barrel and run .357 SIG through it... I want to get another XD40 so I can have it be .357 always and the one I have now stay .40 S&W.
The Hornady Critical Defense in .40 I get is 165gr @ 1,175 ft/s. That's 500 ft-Lb's. NO 9mm can put that out except .357 SIG and 9×25mm Dillon...
The expansion in those 165gr Hornady's I just mentioned are absolutely insane! I have one that expanded more than the .45 I shot did. It was 0.85"!!! That's double the size as when it left the barrel...
As far as capacity I'm content with 12+1 rounds in the gun. I carry one sometimes 2 back up mags as well. But at minimum I have 1 extra giving me 25 rounds on tap while I'm out and about...
So yeah I get 3 less rounds than the G19 gets but my rounds are a lot more powerful too...
Also it's been proven that out of the commercially available semi
automatic cartridges the .357 SIG and .40 S&W have the most one hit kills.
So, I just can't think of why I would want to switch to 9mm from .40 S&W... I don't shoot 500 rounds a week every week.
I go to the range about 3-4 times a year just to stay sharp... I can afford to shoot .40 since I don't shoot an insane amount.
@@shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965 I have a .40 as well, not a 9mm. But I get my shit off bulkammo, or cheaperthan dirt generally, and there is quite a price difference between the two.
so the 40 isn't much more powerful at all. Actually there's hardly any difference at all. Where's this proof of the one hit kills? Sounds like a made up stat.
@@200130769 Look it up... At the 9mm has 385 ft-Lb's of muzzle energy. The .40S&W has 500 bare minimum....
Idc if you want to carry a little 9mm that MOST people live when they get shot by it.... If you want 9mm get a .357 SIG or carry a 8 round .357 Magnum revolver....
I'll be carrying my XD40 with liberty Civil defense 60gr solid copper projectile going 2,000 ft/s or Hornady Critical Defense 165gr @ 1,175 ft/s...
Where is the proof that it much more powerful? Science.... More weight AND higher velocity equals more kinetic energy.... I can't believe I had to explain that to you...
Even +P 9mm will be 135gr @ 1,175 same velocity yeah but 30gr lighter....
And the heavier you make a 9mm bullet the slower it goes and velocity is a LOT of what equates to kinetic energy...
So like I said carry a 9mm if that's all you can shoot well... Like I said I'm carrying a .40 or .357 SIG.....
I have both in Glocks, Smith & Wesson M&Ps, Sig Sauer P320s and I like both calibers. 👍👍
Love and own both. No one Said I had to choose just 1.
Bedside is a suppressed 300BO, a pistol is secondary for home defense
I just carry a bazooka as my sidearm. It's nostalgic and seems to get the job done.
Haha!! It gets messy if you have to use it. 😂
Get yourself a M&P.40 or Glock 22 with an appropriate 9mm conversion barrel and have both calibers available.
Glock 23 gen 5 .40 caliber
G-23 is my carry gun as well. People that hate on .40 are the people who can't control the recoil of a .40
Is it a good gun? I just ordered a glock 23 gen 5 40 cal from a gun store yesterday.
@@jerome21aguilar I really like mine. A bonus is that the 9mm conversion barrels work really well for it. So if you're wanting to use some cheaper ammo at the range or whatever else, grab one.
@@jerome21aguilar above good 👍
I carry what I call my million mile Glock. G22 police trade in nice big truglo and a cerakote slide. I throw a trl1hl on it at night and it stays on my hip during the day…Might have forgot to put on deodorant but I got my Glock lol
357sig!
For me, 40 S&W. Just like it more than 9mm.
I remember the first pistol I ever bought was at Smith Smith & Wesson, and the guy at the gun show had the 9mm and the 40 Smith & Wesson and I remember asking him what do you think I should go with the nine or the 40 and he said it depends on how many times you want to shoot the person😂😂😂 so I ended up going with the 40 Smith & Wesson😅
Shot placement is what matters. If you get plugged five times in your sternum, you will not care if it's 9mm or 40. The ballistic difference between 9mm and 40 is really not that much. Everybody thinks that because of the dumb FBI ballistics testing years ago, and guess what the FBI uses now 9mm. If you are carrying 40, it's because someone told you to, or you are trying to hang on to what you did in the military or law enforcement 20 years ago. Today, both Army and Marine core issued pistols are 9mm. If you look at most police reports of shootings in the past couple of years, they are using 9mm. You can't beat it for the weight, capacity, price, and the availability
40 all day. I get 9 is cheaper, easier to outfit a one size fits all approach for police depts with 9, but im not limited to what a dept can outfit me with. I tested my 40 with 4 different hollow points and found the one it likes best, and i run with it. I also own a pistol in 22, 9, 45, 357/38, and 44 mag. 40 is just my favorite carry round.
shot placement is key and the 9 will get you there better than a 40 will.
@@GoLakers3900not necessarily, it’s all in how much you practice
I love 40 . Was my first gun .
I have both and carry 9mm but my home defense handgun is 40. It was my first hk usp compact 40sw. So I love that gun and caliber.
Compact & Subcompact: 9MM
Full Size: 40
With a little practice, the compact .40 isn't really bad at all. G-23 is a terrific gun. I wouldn't carry anything larger than a 9mm in subcompact, though.
For certain tasks 9mm is better but for a general purpose round 40 S&W is the best option
Love them all !!
My personal choices are:
9mm subcompact carry
.40 compact carry
10mm full size carry
40 please
Just a badass round
Is that 20 extra ft lbs of energy really worth the scarce ammo at higher prices?
There’s a reason the 40cal is dead in the water, mate
Stay safe
Keep shooting
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
@@miker258 40sw can generate 530 foot pounds of energy depending on bullet weight,on the other hand 9mm plus p ammo generates 395 foot pounds of energy,so no haha ,it's not just a 20ft lbs of difference.
@@LUCIFER-ic3ec you might wanna go look at some ballistics charts bud
The ammo in my 9mm pistol right now has over 500 ft lbs of energy.
Why would you post something so easy to prove wrong?
@@miker258your average 9mm is producing more than 20 ft lbs less than your average 40. Ive looked at the ballistics charts. Also, ballistic performance comes down to more than sheer ft lbs. 40 will expand to a much larger diameter than 9mm given equal muzzle energy and bullet design.
@@ki-te9842 that’s ridiculous
That strictly depends on the ammo so to use it like that’s the case across the board is silly.
There are far more types of 9mm than there is 40 so I can guaranty you that’s not the case every time.
Like I said on average the 40 has a little more energy and it’s a little larger, but again, there’s nothing a 40 can do that a 9mm can’t.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
Something with the least recoil so you can put more rounds in the target without recoil getting you off Target I use a 9 mm but considering a high capacity 22
I usually go with 40 but sometimes carry a 9. It depends on when and/or where I'm going. What I'll be doing too.
You mind breaking down that statment a little more. Where your going? Im a newer gun owner so just trying to learn as much as possible
@@a-t5380 I can’t speak for him personally, but when broken down in universal gun jargon, the debate is, a standard concealable magazine will generally capacitate more ammunition in a 9 mm VS. .40 S&W…I.e a glock 19 will house 17 rounds of 9mm, but a glock 23 (same size gun…and extended magazines aren’t practical in regards to efficient reaction draw) will only house 15 round of .40 cal,
The .40 cal will have more knockdown power, but the gun with standard size magazine, carries less ammunition
The 9mm will have less knockdown power but carries more ammunition.
Getting back to the environmental topic..if you are planning to spend a lot of time in a highly populated environment, (like the state fair) you may come in contact with more than one armed person in a violent confrontation, so those couple of extra rounds from a 9mm may be very very critical according to how those two extra rounds are utilized.
But if know you are going to be spending less time in random less populated environments (like the auto parts store, convenient store, McDonald’s) where you are more likely to be encountered with only one person in a violent confrontation, then the stopping power of a .40 cal may be a little more valuable than the ammunition capacity.
But like I said, these factors vary from person to person, and a lot of people also base their options on confidence, or lack of confidence… personally, I like the stopping power of a .40 cal, but I also don’t spend a whole lot of time at the range, which will most likely result in lack of skills in a critical situation, so for me, two extra rounds from a 9 mm may help preserve my life if I’m in a situation dealing with more than one person.
@angeldesigns1385 wow thanks for the breakdown. That was incredible. Makes since
@@a-t5380hey yo. As someone who is turning 22 next month, I can confirm with the aforementioned advice that skills are better than anything. I’ve used handguns for a year solid now and I love them trust me they are powerful enough and effective enough to do what you want to do. But Rifles are very good to practice on in comparison. I’ve used shotguns and rifles for 3 years now. They are always easier to use than handguns. Three points of contact on the gun with a rifle versus only two with a pistol. Pistols are inherently harder to shoot in any caliber. To explain this point I’d like to mention I have a AR-12 rifle. It’s like a AR-15 rifle but chambered in 12 gauge shotgun rounds. It’s easier to use this 12 gauge rifle than a .22 pistol in my opinion, because of the extra point of contact and bigger controls and better sight radius etc etc. please go shoot your handgun if you got one or If you ever wanna use one to protect yourself with. If you ever just wanna be accurate in general. It’s a skill that comes and goes, so don’t forget that. My favorite thing to do is take out broken things from my house that don’t work and go shoot them. Also things that make me go “I wonder what would happen if I shot this” so do what makes you feel happy. Just use a tarp underneath things they explode and pieces go everywhere and littering is bad especially with shotguns shotgunners are the worst they never clear their litter and all it takes is five seconds and a dollar store tarp to not make a enormous mess of shells
@@a-t5380please be safe and enjoy your time shooting remember it’s a lot like driving in that it’s fun to do but only when you focus on driving. You make a wrong move for a second driving an bam you drove through my house.
I own 380acp "Ruger LCP and SW Shield EZ 380", 9MM "Star BM9, Taurus TH9", and 45acp "SW Shield 2.0". Each of these have both their pros and cons, however, with the proper ammunition, you could compensate for the cons to a great degree. For example, Underwood Ammo +p, or +p+ are some of these examples, but there is a catch; these types of ammo are not recommended to be used all the time, only for specific scenarios. 1. The +p/+p+ ammo can damage your gun if used too often. 2. You can buy hard casing ammo for hunting big game.
I carry .40 because I want a little extra umphf
Whatever you have to fight your way to your rifle.
40 all day
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I picked 40, it does have a proven track record. Also, when everyone else buys up 9 and not 40, guess who lucks out? We do 😃
I am newer to gun ownership. Tried a lot of guns. Went with a classic. Glock 19 gen 5. It will be my edc. I have put about 500 rounds through it. It shoots smooth, easy to clean, never had it jam. I am a lefty. I get very good shot placement. Tried .40 and .45 a few times. Definitely a 9mm guy.
Can’t go wrong is the most purchased gun ever created.
both! subcompact 9mm and a full size .40cal to reduce the snappiness and always have cheap ammo
Im starting to not believe energy from grainage and velocity cuz to many 9mm rounds are claiming and even chronographing high 400 and low 500 fpe and to many .40 coming in at high 300s and mid 400s like you feel that recoil difference and you know the .40 is more energy foh lol
I love that snap that shit is sooo good. .40 for life.
40 for me
I like em both BUT modern .40 is objectively more powerful than 9mm. Good .40 off shelf loads hover from 400-500 fpe where as your 9mm +p will still struggle to break even 300-400 unless you go +p+ boutique loadings. Boutique loadings for .40 are even more powerful at 600-700 fpe. I like 9mm for cheap range practice. But .40 when my life depends on it.
I love 40 and 9 but you are mistaken if you think 9mm struggles to break 300 ft lbs standard pressure federal hst hits 364ft lbs of muzzle energy and the plus p version hits 396.. but yes .40 is a stronger round with more weight and muzzle energy on avg.
Is it better than 9 in terms of power? Yes.
I have never seen any 9mm that was lower than 300 ft/lbs. In fact most non +p 9mm is 350-375 and +p+ caps out at 500
I think you might wanna check your stats one more time and I think you might be doing yourself a disservice if you’re only looking at energy for which of a better round because there’s a lot more that goes into it than just that and velocity would be one of those things next would be the one you can shoot best because it’s not such a drastic jump in power so a 9 will be able to do everything a 40 can but the 9 will be better penetrating hard targets
Keep shooting
Stay safe
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
That’s a good point. The 9mm crowd crows about the “modern 9mm” is equal to a .40. I have to assume manufactures have modernized the .40 too right?
@@kds471 not to the same extent because of how much more popular the 9mm is vs the 40cal which is all but obsolete these days
Shot placement is key! Why give up extra rounds for a little more power and a lot more recoil?
100% go with the one you can control and are most comfortable with. A little practice and the "a lot more recoil" isn't even an issue.
Practice doesn't change physics :)@@somecallmetim4490
My problem is, I like em all! Its a problem for me but, it's a problem I don't mind having😊
I carry a 40 and I’ve been EDC a 40 since 2009. I’ve carried 9 before as EDC but something about shooting the 40 hooked me and I never looked back my wife carries a 9 as her EDC.
Or mix both and get .357 sig
I wish .357sig was more popular it’s such a good round
@@jibletjibletstein8040 has a great concussive blast effect too similar to .357. Interesting round.
@@jibletjibletstein8040I want a .357 sig, but I wouldn’t want to personally have to shoot someone in my car with it. It’s a hard hitting round, but my god is it loud. You’d lose your hearing if you had to defend yourself in an enclosed space like your vehicle. Haha
It's pretty much a 9mm +p. I'll just pull out the 10mm if I need more gun.
I'm trying to get my first handgun, I'm stuck between the S&W M&P 2.0 or Beretta 96A1
M&P 2.0 full size or 4" compact, you will not regret it.
@@michaelsaupe1356 what's your opinion on .40 s&w??
I carry a Glock 23C (ported in factory) & I feel like it shoots flatter than my 19X
There is no “debate”… “back at it again.” The argument was settled years ago. The verdict: .357Sig for defense is KING in a combat pistol round.
Next video please.
All of them especially 357s
40 for me all day. That said i choose an 40 glock or S&W m&p with 9mm conversion barrels and 9mm mags. Having a 40 allows me to use 40, 357sig, and 9mm. Best of all worlds.
Yep! My G23 becomes a G19 in all of 30 seconds.
0.40 cal was the only pistol round that I could easily find during COVID-19 ammo shortage was a plus.
I carry 40. Just like it. I have lots of 9mm pistols Ann carbines though and it’s a blast shooting steel.
40, since my first gun.
9mm don't have more velocity necessarily. .40 Speer gold dot 155gr goes 1,200 ft/s. And Critical Defense is 165gr @ 1,175 ft/s...
The only 9mm that I really want is .357 Sig... 125gr @ 1,400 ft/s sounds nice!!
In california a 9mm is obsolete. .40 .45 is a better choice in California.
What does being in Cali have to do with caliber
@@sirnoname6943easy, theres a magazine capacity limit in Cali. Would u rather have 10 rounds of 9 or 40? Ill take 40 all day long
Agreed. I have a complete line of Springfield XD-40s for this reason. Loaded with either 165 or 180 grain Speer Gold Dots depending on circumstances of the day. If you live in CA you choose either .40, 45 acp, or .357 magnum. Not much else makes sense.
@@taasch2505 i dont live in a restricted state but for me personally 40 is the hardest hitting round im the most effective with like when it comes to recoil control, speed an accuracy of follow up shots, shot placement, ect. Over the years ive done countless drills comparing 9 an 40 along w other pistol calibers and the results for 40 an 9 are always pretty much identical so i choose the one that hits harder. I would rather have the round that could potentially eliminate the threat the fastest. I know alot of that has to do w shot placement but its still a possibility. My 2 cents 😁👍
@@khris6278 I agree. What good is 20 rounds of 9mm if you're actually getting low on that round count? Either you really had a lapse in judgement about places you ought to be, or your technique is totally lacking. Go with rounds that stop threats faster, shoot less rounds overall, keep bystanders at a minimal risk
I love to edc my Glock 22. 16 rounds of 40 cal is way better than the 18 rounds of 9mm you get in the same size platform of the Glock 17.
I like them both.
My nine ammo ballistic wise is right there with the forty cal so I’m good.gotta love underwood
I always heard the .40 called the .40 short and weak
That pun is in comparison to the 10mm tho
Armed guard I carry a Ruger SR 40. I have the round capacity of a 9 with the power of a 40. I carry defense rounds to lessen over penetration
40 or 10mm
Any caliber will do on hand gun. I carried 9 , 40 , and 45 . They all have perks and weaknesses. In my case I prefer 9mm. Carry more, less weight, and can keep sights on target. But alll are good. But let’s get real a rifle will always be better than a pistol. Comment you favorite rifle round.
Going 40 next. Got the 9mm now. I want something with more recoil. The 9mm is fun but I dont feel anything from it. I want a little more kick
I use a .40 because it was sixty dollars cheaper than the same pistol chambered for 9mm. I was bargain hunting that day, and now I've more than paid for the difference in ammo costs.
I prefer 10 short
Everything you said is correct!
I have both
I'm new to guns and I just got a beretta apx 40 cal and wanted to make sure I got the right ammo is 40 cal always centerfire?
I have a S&W 2.0 compact that I got in .40 and i found an OEM 9mm barrel and spring assembly on eBay and with 9mm mags I have a 2 in 1 gun and it’s been flawless with both calibers. That said I do prefer .40🤙
I have both...and .45 ACP.
The ultimate bullet, is the one that stops the threat.
Both will work.
I have a 9, .40 and 10. The 10 is my favorite.
I have both now, but I’m just getting into guns. Started with a 9 mm now. I’ve got a 40 caliber Springfield. I went with that round because it’s a little bigger than 9, I’m interested in the knockdown power. Got a few more rounds in it the most 45s. I all-around felt like it was a good choice.
Knockdown power isn’t a thing. Kinetic energy means nothing with pistols becuase they can’t overcome the bodies elasticity like rifles to create large permanent wound cavities. Only thing that really matters is bullet size and shot placement ; bigger bullet, more recoil, harder to place shots. 9mm
But stopping ability IS a thing, and while much of your argument is correct for cadavers and ballistic gel, it is wrong for living breathing attackers. Talk to people who have had to stop threats. Watch security cam and body cam videos of 9mm stops...they have to literally ventilate the bad guy. And in many of them, an entire mag is dumped into the person and they go sit down and die. But if you talk to cops, .40, .357 Sig, .45, 10mm...those are where you get your one or two shot stops. That's just reality. None of them will knock a person backwards screaming, that is myth, you are right. But stopping power is real. And 9mm is considered by most veteran cops who have been there, to be more of a get off me caliber than a serious tool.
That what she told me bigger is better and it boosted my ego😃
Ahh an age old debate ive carried 9mm cheap to shoot easy to train on i even considered 380acp but i figured if capacity is the same go with more powder but then you look at 40 more velocity bigger diameter but if velocity isnt an issue because getting shoot is still getting shoot bigger holes bleed faster so go 45acp honestly it doesnt matter train with what you have shot placement is everything
Kentucky did away with concealed carry permits years ago and i carry smith and wesson 40 mp 2.0
Knock down power???...😂
PX4 in 40 all the way,rotating Barrel diminishes the snap by a lot
9mm accurate, high capacity,low recoil. Glock 19x , Canik mete mc9 or ruger max9. Are the 3 pistols i rotate. Honestly its all in what you shoot best in my opinion I own a 40 but I shoot my 9mms way better.
40 for power factor
Wish .40 was more accepted. More power than .45 and more capacity to
I accept it
More power than a .45??
@@mr.midnight4438 yes, the .40 is a more powerful cartridge than .45 Auto.
More..powerful, as in more full of power?
Yes, the .40 and especially 10mm are both more powerful than the .45. @@mr.midnight4438
I use both. 40 in winter with more clothes and 9 with shorts and t shirts. Wife uses an 8
40 reigns supreme for sure! If you can afford it buy both 9 & 40 and practice with 9. The 40 will kick a bit more but you can practice cheaper with the 9 and you won’t notice huge a huge difference between the 9 & the 40. However your attacker will feel a HUGE difference between the 9 & the 40! Carry the 40 ALWAYS if you can, BUT carry a 9 if you can’t afford the 40! Words to live by
10mm Gang 😎
I have a 40 by my bedside but I concealed carry a 9mm since I have not found a 40 yet. Any recommendations?
The Glock 30 is a compact 45, idk how they perform but I haven’t heard anything bad about them
The 9mm spins faster out performs
Every caliber ar9
And cqb
Laughs in 5.7
I like both. However i did carry the .40 for 2 years when did security work.
I got a M&P 9MM an a Glock 23 40 cal I like both I’m more accurate with my 9mm
If I have to save my life I’m shooting once or twice and finding cover. 40 FTW
BOTH is always better
I stay in California, I have a p320, can the .40 s&w mags hold and run 9mm.
Everyone is on here with their vast knowledge and experience saying 40 for the house. If you are so smart why aren’t you saying shotgun for the house
Right onnnn! What shell you running? Not tryna take out the neighbor's cat. #4 #00?
I like options so how about a pew pew that can chamber both 40 and 10mm? Yes please!
Glock 20 can do both! Can attest to that myself! Though I do not recommend, especially with other 10mm handguns!
A beretta 96 feels just like 9mm in the 92
I am a .40 guy for self defense but 9mm is a little cheaper to shoot if do much shooting which I dont
I’ll sacrifice 2 carry rounds for knock down power. If you can shoot a 9 constantly you can shoot a 40 just as well. Practice
9 has morw velocity?
Yes it does. On average 150-250fps
You know I did a bunch of research on this and the ballistics are so marginally different between the the two at 9 mm you can put more rounds on Target it's one of the main reasons our government military and police force switch to 9mm