PGA was ok, but World Class Leader Board was in a league of its own. Nobody could reach the grand masters of computer golf at the time, Access, they would make it even bigger with the legendary Links series on the Computers (groundbreaking...everything, even the graphics were breath taking for its time). I became a avid golfer later on and those games were definitely a big reason (alongside my parents of course) why i started to play this game (and endure ridicule ever since, altough i slowly reach the age were playing golf is "normal", lol)
Yeah, I thought about mentioning the Links series. There was a time in the early 90s, when you wanted to show off your video card, you booted up Links.
@@ZilogandMoto Yeah considering it came out in 1990, when pretty much all games were 16 color EGA at best, having 256 color 240x480 VGA was mind-blowing and it looked so real (and the sound was amazing too, digitized speech, realistic sound effects for the birds and of course that awesome intro song, and it all came on a few floppys even) As i said i became a golf fan with World Class Leader Board on the Master System just a short time before we got a PC with Links, so you can imagine how much my child mind was blown by just comparing those too. 🤣
On the flip side, not having price stickers at all is a problem too. I checked out a recently opened retro game store because my usual store was damaged in a flood. The new store didn't have prices on anything so they would look up the price on eBay and then charge me that. Nope. Won't be going there again.
@@ZilogandMoto I had that too. Came across an amazing store in my town I'd never been to - I inquired why the price tags on certain items was a different style and they said they needed to be repriced but they hadn't had time yet. Only thing is, it was about half of their inventory!! So I gave them a list of things I wanted them to price as I was interested in them and I actually never heard back. Sigh.
The 'sticker on the paper' thing was policy at some places - it stopped customers swapping stickers and getting things for cheap, which apparently happened far too often. one of those "why we can't have nice things" moments
Yeah that was definitely the case. The worst thing one store did here in Germany was stamp their store logo on the cover, not on the plastic so you can remove it, but directly on the paper cover, i hated that so much. I don't even know why they did it. Sadly, they also had the by far best prices.
@@ZilogandMoto I tried to remove the stamp with all kinds of measure (on World Soccer, so nothing of worth would be lost) and i couldn't remove it. I have that also on my copies of The Ninja, Shinobi, Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars, Running Battle, Shadow Dancer , Bart vs the Space Mutants and WWF Steel Cage Challenge, a black round logo with CSC in it (Computer Spiele Center was their name). They never rented out games, so i never understood why they did it. They also did it on PC boxes (my WWF European Rampage Tour has that on it, i only kept the box because it was the best thing about that horrendous game) Those are the pet peeves in my collection among the pesky Media Mark price sticker on Sonic & Knuckles (the only PAL cardboard box on the Mega Drive, as far as i know), it's stuck so hard on it, i can't get it loose without thinking i'd just damage the cardboard. That and all other stores cutting off the hang tabs, that's another pet peeve of mine. While they can be annoying for storage (i loved it when Sega Europe introduced 2 little tabs to put the hang tab into) it's worse if some idiot removed them while cutting halfway into the box and doing a hack job Stevie Wonder would be ashamed about. Enough ranting 😆
Forgot which store did this (Blockbuster, Major Video, Hollywood Video?) They used to "burn in" aka, MELT, their logo into the plastic cartridges. Also Hollywood Video was notorious for putting their silver sticks on Discs. Which made the disc wobble and skip reading, while it spun.
Yeah, stickers on a disc is a huge no no. I've never seen a cartridge like that, all though I think I do have a few where a kid etched their name into the plastic with a knife or something.
Stickers on the paper part of the box is definitely something that makes me angry. LOL. My Sega Master System games are free from this, but during the mid-2000's (I think around 2007) Gamestop for one year started putting their stickers on the PAPER part of Playstation 2, Xbox, and Gamecube game boxes. And they would put the stickers on the SPINE and on the FRONT (all on the paper UNDER the plastic). And it was IMPOSSIBLE to get those stickers off without ripping off the paper. A tremendous amount of people complained and they stopped doing that after a year, but it was still a pain since I bought a few Playstation 2 games around 2007 and I didn't realize the stickers were on the paper (and not the plastic) till I was home. That was NOT fun. On a side note, I don't watch golf, but I like to play golf video games. I recently bought EA sports presents PGA Tour: Road to the Masters (2023 release) on Playstation 5. Long story short, while the graphics are BRILLIANT (it's "current gen" only, it's NOT available on Playstation 4, so it utilizes the graphics power of the Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X in a beautiful way) the gameplay is INSANELY HARD beyond belief (I had to level up my golfer to level 91 and I'm currently on the Masters tournament as I type this and it is INSANE HARD difficulty even on the "easy" arcade mode, which the opposite of easy). Only reason I'm winning in the game so far is because I'm kind of cheating (in career mode, every time I mess up a shot, which happens a lot, I exit out of the game, close it out, and go back in and it resets the hole so I can try again). But it's insanely hard. The BEST golf game is Everybody's Golf VR on PS VR (that game is lots of fun to play and overall it's a great game, it's the NBA Jam of golf games). I will try some of the older PGA Tour games from the 90's when I get the chance. I also want to try Arnold Palmer Tournament Golf on Sega Genesis.
I do remember that era of PS2/Xbox/Gamecube releases that had the stickers on the inner spine, and yes, they're exactly as awful as you describe. I may still have a few on the shelf, I'd have to look. Good to know about the new PGA Tour Golf, I hadn't tried it yet, but I agree, for more modern releases, the Everybody's Golf/Hot Shots Golf series is hard to beat.
That Dante Alighieri joke was some Divine Comedy.
As someone who is pretty ocd about cleaning games and removing labels, I'm glad I've never come across one like that. Yikes.
It was HIGHLY annoying.
PGA was ok, but World Class Leader Board was in a league of its own. Nobody could reach the grand masters of computer golf at the time, Access, they would make it even bigger with the legendary Links series on the Computers (groundbreaking...everything, even the graphics were breath taking for its time). I became a avid golfer later on and those games were definitely a big reason (alongside my parents of course) why i started to play this game (and endure ridicule ever since, altough i slowly reach the age were playing golf is "normal", lol)
Yeah, I thought about mentioning the Links series. There was a time in the early 90s, when you wanted to show off your video card, you booted up Links.
@@ZilogandMoto Yeah considering it came out in 1990, when pretty much all games were 16 color EGA at best, having 256 color 240x480 VGA was mind-blowing and it looked so real (and the sound was amazing too, digitized speech, realistic sound effects for the birds and of course that awesome intro song, and it all came on a few floppys even)
As i said i became a golf fan with World Class Leader Board on the Master System just a short time before we got a PC with Links, so you can imagine how much my child mind was blown by just comparing those too. 🤣
Heh, definitely night and day.
On the flip side, not having price stickers at all is a problem too. I checked out a recently opened retro game store because my usual store was damaged in a flood. The new store didn't have prices on anything so they would look up the price on eBay and then charge me that. Nope. Won't be going there again.
Oh yeah, that's totally scummy. If you're going to do that, just throw the crap on ebay and be done with it.
@@ZilogandMoto I had that too. Came across an amazing store in my town I'd never been to - I inquired why the price tags on certain items was a different style and they said they needed to be repriced but they hadn't had time yet. Only thing is, it was about half of their inventory!! So I gave them a list of things I wanted them to price as I was interested in them and I actually never heard back. Sigh.
Good way to lose business, for sure.
The 'sticker on the paper' thing was policy at some places - it stopped customers swapping stickers and getting things for cheap, which apparently happened far too often.
one of those "why we can't have nice things" moments
Must have been crappy stickers to get them off that easy, but I guess that makes sense. Goes along with things not being shrink wrapped.
Yeah that was definitely the case. The worst thing one store did here in Germany was stamp their store logo on the cover, not on the plastic so you can remove it, but directly on the paper cover, i hated that so much. I don't even know why they did it. Sadly, they also had the by far best prices.
Ooof. That's a new one.
@@ZilogandMoto I tried to remove the stamp with all kinds of measure (on World Soccer, so nothing of worth would be lost) and i couldn't remove it. I have that also on my copies of The Ninja, Shinobi, Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars, Running Battle, Shadow Dancer , Bart vs the Space Mutants and WWF Steel Cage Challenge, a black round logo with CSC in it (Computer Spiele Center was their name). They never rented out games, so i never understood why they did it. They also did it on PC boxes (my WWF European Rampage Tour has that on it, i only kept the box because it was the best thing about that horrendous game)
Those are the pet peeves in my collection among the pesky Media Mark price sticker on Sonic & Knuckles (the only PAL cardboard box on the Mega Drive, as far as i know), it's stuck so hard on it, i can't get it loose without thinking i'd just damage the cardboard.
That and all other stores cutting off the hang tabs, that's another pet peeve of mine. While they can be annoying for storage (i loved it when Sega Europe introduced 2 little tabs to put the hang tab into) it's worse if some idiot removed them while cutting halfway into the box and doing a hack job Stevie Wonder would be ashamed about.
Enough ranting 😆
Seriously, how hard is it to cut a straight line?
Lol, “CRT fans who like playing games on old security monitors “
"Tell me when I'm telling lies"
Forgot which store did this (Blockbuster, Major Video, Hollywood Video?) They used to "burn in" aka, MELT, their logo into the plastic cartridges. Also Hollywood Video was notorious for putting their silver sticks on Discs. Which made the disc wobble and skip reading, while it spun.
Yeah, stickers on a disc is a huge no no. I've never seen a cartridge like that, all though I think I do have a few where a kid etched their name into the plastic with a knife or something.
Stickers on the paper part of the box is definitely something that makes me angry. LOL. My Sega Master System games are free from this, but during the mid-2000's (I think around 2007) Gamestop for one year started putting their stickers on the PAPER part of Playstation 2, Xbox, and Gamecube game boxes. And they would put the stickers on the SPINE and on the FRONT (all on the paper UNDER the plastic). And it was IMPOSSIBLE to get those stickers off without ripping off the paper. A tremendous amount of people complained and they stopped doing that after a year, but it was still a pain since I bought a few Playstation 2 games around 2007 and I didn't realize the stickers were on the paper (and not the plastic) till I was home. That was NOT fun.
On a side note,
I don't watch golf, but I like to play golf video games.
I recently bought EA sports presents PGA Tour: Road to the Masters (2023 release) on Playstation 5. Long story short, while the graphics are BRILLIANT (it's "current gen" only, it's NOT available on Playstation 4, so it utilizes the graphics power of the Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X in a beautiful way) the gameplay is INSANELY HARD beyond belief (I had to level up my golfer to level 91 and I'm currently on the Masters tournament as I type this and it is INSANE HARD difficulty even on the "easy" arcade mode, which the opposite of easy). Only reason I'm winning in the game so far is because I'm kind of cheating (in career mode, every time I mess up a shot, which happens a lot, I exit out of the game, close it out, and go back in and it resets the hole so I can try again). But it's insanely hard.
The BEST golf game is Everybody's Golf VR on PS VR (that game is lots of fun to play and overall it's a great game, it's the NBA Jam of golf games).
I will try some of the older PGA Tour games from the 90's when I get the chance. I also want to try Arnold Palmer Tournament Golf on Sega Genesis.
I do remember that era of PS2/Xbox/Gamecube releases that had the stickers on the inner spine, and yes, they're exactly as awful as you describe. I may still have a few on the shelf, I'd have to look.
Good to know about the new PGA Tour Golf, I hadn't tried it yet, but I agree, for more modern releases, the Everybody's Golf/Hot Shots Golf series is hard to beat.