Why I Prefer Destiny 1 over Destiny 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2020
- It isn't just nostalgia that has kept me playing Destiny 1 almost daily again. It's a little bit deeper than just nostalgic feelings. The endgame progression and gameplay loops keeps me playing Destiny 1. Hope you listen to my thoughts in this video and share your own in the comments down below.
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D1 had a vibe I can’t explain
It had atmosphere. D2 doesn’t have one, or at least a very minimal one.
Quinn yesssss the community was much better too, I remember people huddling around Me or another guy cuz we were wearing dope ass raid armor, raids were actually fun, these days people just want to cheese the bosses and get a quick 1 phase raid finished, the raid armor in D2 is trash, some of the best missions in D2 are missions about D1 exotics, idk D1 was just much more fun
Just listen to the background music in this video. That is the vibe, my friend. I miss the chill D1 tower
I think it's because the people were more friendly. Whenever I play d2, it's just a bunch of guardians grinding loot. But even today, people who play d1 are willing to help you out with strikes or missions, even if they don't get anything out of it. They played d1 for fun, and not to complete the new exotic grind.
Its because it's the original
I feel like Destiny 1 just had so much more personality than Destiny 2
For sure
D1 is a complete game while D2 will never be complete, which is why it is a failure
It’s much more consistent when is comes to the tone of the game were destiny 2 is all over the place
@@johnaplin9848 d1 was not a complete game
And that feeling is fact! It had much more character. D2 just feels like another MMO looter shooter with a Destiny skin.
D1 music was just ambient, the music did something to me. Nostalgia is a cruel mistress
same bro
@rhec710nation Eastern/Oregon well it wasn't free for me. Never has been. Season pass isnt free since content is locked behind it. Is this also the part you tell me that I don't have to pay?
I think the reason was called “Marty O’Donnell”. He made the original Destiny score and then left Bungie, after having made the score for their Halo games since 2001.
Leman Russ what are you guys talking about content can’t be free that’s ridiculous it was like a taste test to make yr1 free
@@aksis2133 That's completely false mate lmao Marty was fired off the team and the OST he made was never included in the game. No clue why a comment with such false information has four upvotes lol
D1 made me feel a certain type of way being 15 getting out of school either after a good or bad day just to get on and run Crota, VOG, Oryx, Etc it was such an amazing time and I miss it so much.
I feel you on that amigo. Whenever I got the chance I'd go through the game's worlds and just enjoy the open views and secret areas they'd have. It'd always give younger me that tad of needed insperation
Yess man, I used to no life d1 on 360 after school everyday and I had such an amazing time in d1 that’s why I’m buying it on my PS4 d2 isn’t cutting it no more especially after stasis it kinda killed it for me
@@Loaferson Remember going through the Cosmodrome for the first time on recon? All the secret enemies you bump into when Crota came out? I tell you when I found the servant of the hand for the first time I actually got spooked a bit
I'm in the UK. All reset times were 10 in the morning, while I was in school. Wednesdays I would wait for break time so I could watch mesasean's shitty copy-pasted low-effort videos on armsday, waiting for the perfect Arminius-D, or DIS-47. Or on Friday for Xur. Those were the days, man.
i can remember my 13 year old self running home just to play d1 with my friends on a raid or trials on a weekend
I also prefer D1, I prefer the levelling system, I prefer the loot and the search for loot such as strike specific loot. I had no problem with D1's downtimes because it allowed me to have a healthy relationship with the game.
The most important thing for me is in D1, I chose to play the 1,000 hrs plus, D2 makes me feel like I have to play.
Truth. D2 feels like clocking into work
Because if you're not playing every week, you're gonna miss content.
Drip-feeding content is bad enough, but they actually delete stuff from the game once the season ends. And now the Vault and sunsetting...
Requiem Eye no, not like this. Just some small reccurring events, but in D2 we have entire story bits added and deleted with each season. I had to watch a video from Byf at the start of this season because all the stuff I thought I’m going to experience, like black garden (that even teased at the end of shadowkeep) and rasputin story, was gone. And don’t get me started on absolutely boring power grind...
@@NovemberHotel facts. I guess I just quit my job lol.
@@SeptimusXT sounds like you should play a better game. Destiny 1 sounds pretty good.
I love d1 because the raids felt... how can I put this, darker and grittier?
In d2 it feels like you’re stepping into a polished, mostly well kept place.
But in d1 the raids feel like you’re stepping into a place nobody has gone before.
Like vault of glass, you are going into a secret place that bends reality.
In Croats end, it feels like you’re going to a place completely overrun by darkness.
In kings fall, you are going into a place where one of the most powerful entities resides.
And in wrath of the machine, you are going to a place that you will most likely die in.
The atmosphere in d1 is amazing, every time I go into a raid it just gives me chills.
VOG is a huge cavern the Vex mechanised, turning the heart of Venus into a resting place for Time's Conflux. Heavily defended by the most powerful Vex machines, and virtually impenetrable. Your light only survives thanks to the sacrifice of Kabr, who, in his final moments, poured the last of his light into a shield, before he and it were rended from the timeline, scattered throughout the past and future of the vault.
Crota's End is a journey inside of the Moon. Into the Hellmouth, which was dug by billions of disgusting, evil, genocidal alien monsters. You enter the ascendant realm, and slay Crota, the champion knight of the hive, turning his own sword against him as his power drains your light, preventing you from healing, while his oversoul builds it's destructive power to smother any trace of you.
King's Fall, you break into the deepest layers of the Dreadnaught, Oryx's territory in the ascendant realm, dragged into the materium via the sheer power Oryx wields thanks to the sword logic. He built a throne room, and a great ship around it from the compressed, rotted remains of his own people. There are huge piles of jelly-like eggs collecting in the untrodden corners, and dreadful fumes and spores floating around in the air. The ship is rotting, falling apart. Chunks of the smooth floors and walls are chipped away, revealing the forbidden crumpets within. You claim the many auras of the Hive's rituals of sword logic and slay their royalty. First, you fell the mighty Warpriest, and a titan in your fireteam cuts off his head as a trophy, and wears its hollowed-out exoskull as a helmet. You distract Golgoroth and allow your fireteam to wound it unnoticed. It falls to your overwhelming light. You steal the aura of immortality from Oryx's daughters and use it to murder them. A warlock, not one to be outdone, copies the titan, taking one of their heads as a token of their victory. Finally, you face Oryx. You kill the beasts he sends to eat your light, spilling pools of corrupted light on the ground. You stop him drawing power from the darkness and then channel this corrupted light and detonate it, as a terribly destructive bomb to wound Oryx. In his final stand, he is powerless, and his place in the ascendant realm is relinquished. You take his ravenous heart and turn it into a weapon.
WOTM is in a structure built as a ramshackle entrance to one of Rasputin's vaults, incorporating a siege engine on the cosmodrome wall. You descend into the vault and bring down the zealot Aksis, who tried to make himself a god. (I could bitch about the Vosik and Aksis encounters being basically the same, but whatever. I don't really play Wrath that much)
The D2 raids are: just complete a few tests then kill a Freddy Fazbear version of a guy who is already dead... Or is he?; Wander through a lavender coloured city, kill 3 psycho chicks (which are all basically the same encounter over and over), then shoot a dragon in the eyes; shoot big fat cabal looking hive possessed thing; and wander through a lab then kill Taniks, who we already killed twice and is trying to copy Aksis and give himself a giant robo-gorilla-dumpy.
There's a bit of a difference. There's no mystery or majesty about the D2 raids. It's all just low-stakes rubbish-sweeping twaddle with dumb bosses.
I’d have to disagree to this statement but hey if that’s how you feel I can’t change that fact
@@ivanivanovic5857 massive exaggeration but you do you bud.
@@sunshotwithanornament2475 this
@@ivanivanovic5857 i think the main turn off for me in d2 is the low stakes compared to d1 in raids. Vosik and Aksis being the same is not something I understand. Do you mean in terms of narrative or mechanics? I'd hope narrative because you're out of your mind if you wanna say mechanics.
Loved this game from the very beginning to the end. I remember not having a single friend to play high-end activities with, until I found one random guy at the tower who messaged me, we did some strikes together, and then he introduced me to his team. We became friends after a couple of days of playing and we started doing nightfalls and the raid (at the time there was only Vault of Glass, and I remember getting the Vex Mythoclast on my 2nd hard mode run, everyone in my team was mad at me for being so lucky). From that moment on we’ve been playing through The Dark Below all together (killed Crota), then House of Wolves (went flawless on Trials and completed every level in the PoE), and then finally playing TTK together (which was my favourite raid ever). This will always be my all time favourite videogame, and I’ll never be able to listen to its soundtrack without shedding some tears of nostalgia.
Awesome to hear that man. glad you had some good times on this game.
Got the Vex on my 1st hard mode completion but hey I earned it by doing the solar nade cheese 🧀 😎
I literally started D2 first and enjoy D1 more. That says a lot.
Same
Edit: I now think it depends on the activity. Both are great games
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Same here like d1 is just the better game
Started on d1 demo went to d2 and now I never play d2 and I only have been playing d1
@@z1q3r59 same I played destiny 1 demo preordered destiny 2 then it became for free. I even bought the deluxe. 😭 I regret getting D2. D1 is the best
D1 nostalgia makes me cry myself to sleep wanting to go back to those days, when times were simpler and id stay up way late with my friends trying to complete a raid😔
Remember When You’d Leave A Fireteam Member At Templar During Reset, And You Wouldn’t Have To Play Through The First Section?
Remember when eververse store was actually a decent store? And you could earn 3 boxes per week through activities (9 if you had 3 characters)
Akira Kamisaru wait what I’ve never thought of that how was I unaware lol
I tried to go to d2, i got a fakebringer and it's not the same my friend who was so jealous because it had dragon fly and outlaw it's not fatebringer. When you got loot, in d1 it made you scream at the top of your lungs at 5 am waking the whole house up
I used to no life d1 on Xbox and recently d2 has been ruined for me since stasis is a thing, but I wanna go back to those days where on Xbox I’d always meet some of the chillest people trying to do raids😌
I remember back when i first got the game beating the nightfall was the holy grail of all accomplishments, now a days it just feels like any other strike
i still brag about solo nightfalls to new D2 players that never knew the pain of cloaked vandals with an arc-burn modifier and lightswitch
May be because you got better at the game?
Grandmaster?
ikr it was so hard back in year 1 and d1 first time i completed it i felt so accomplished
Yeah try grandmaster please
This video perfectly explains why I prefer D1 over D2. The constant grinding in D2 got exhausting and I felt like I just couldn't keep up if I wanted to play other games. I've really enjoyed your Destiny 1 series, keep up the good work 👍
Thanks man!
True
I always felt this way too, but never knew why. I figured it out when I joined a D2 clan very recently. The way they treated the game and each other was so much more toxic than any of the randoms/friends I played with in D1. They broke every moment of immersion, treating the game like a chore rather than an experience. They refused to allow me the moments of friendship I was searching for. Any moment of playfulness and fun I tried to give was taken away by over arching anger for not “one phasing” correctly or not having the gear they said was the best. Rather than a chase for immersion, secrets (ex: original thorn quest), and connection, destiny has become a chase for “first,” “quickest,” and “god rolls.” I remember climbing the mountains of lord Saladin’s palace and sitting with all my friend’s characters around the campfire. I have a screenshot that I wish I could post here. Ever since D2 came out, I could not recreate that feeling.
I have since left the clan and play only by myself.
I’m sorry you’ve had that experience. The game has definitely turned into a chore for most players and seems to be a tryhard’s wet dream. No fun allowed. I definitely remember running d1 lfg teams all the time and made so many friendships. Some that have lasted years and have met in person since playing. Destiny 2 has never provided anything similar.
@@NovemberHotel I really do feel like that as well. I've met people in person that I've made friends with online and still talk to them today. I honestly don't know what shifted the community so hard.
@@joshuawinters6591 destiny 2 really turned off most of the d1 fans and the fortnite generation infiltrated the destiny community. It's unfortunate because the community is mostly just toxic and unwelcoming now
@@NovemberHotel I think what we're talking about here are the jaded old timers who've had to put up with so much genuine incompetence. Like, refusal to try and learn mechanics, "mewant ad clear then give loot!!!", or just players SO DUMB I sometimes ponder will they survive the next week without hanging themselves on their SHOELACES by accident tomorrow. Now I've dealt with actual twats and mental defectives and try my hardest and longest to keep it nice and civil, but we all have our limits.. Now however, I've hung around with a great team and it's chaotic fun with my personal perfect level of dumb and I love it. We sortof pushed out and replaced one moron who genuinely in a childish way said "i dont wanna" to learning few simple mechanics a new player could get a hang of in ten minutes max!
There's another tedious aspect of Destiny 2 that you hadn't mentioned: the vendor stock. In D1, there was less ambiguity in your purchases. If I rank up with a faction, I can choose between random weapons or random armor, or even just buy something specific. D2's vendors feel more like casinos than shops. Every store is copying Master Rahool's business model, which demotivates me to grind if all I get is *YET ANOTHER* ugly helmet instead of a gun.
Kevin Doerr I think bungie has started catching onto this with focused umbral engrams but you’re right more vendors should be doing this.
yeah I spent 500 crucible tokens to get the crucible helmet last season but couldn’t get it because i kept getting rerolls of the same grips and weapons.
I miss being able to just buy a weapon that I want, with vendors rerolling every week. That's how they should always be.
In my opinion the power grind should only happen every expansion and should be able to be done more passively
I agree. I think the worse thing Bungie has done is the seasonal artefact power level. It gives an advantage to those who spend every waking hour playing the game and provides an uninteresting means of progression just so there is no end to the progression once you reach the pinnacle cap. It's a band-aid counter-measure to an severed limb. I'd much rather the progression has an end point each expansion, or even each season, that is achievable for the whole player base. The issue is evident with the fact that the end-game activities disable the artefact power advantages simply because it would cause imbalance for the player base.
I mean at least give us pinnacles for resetting your valor rank or glory rank because we shouldn’t be forced to wait for means to an end or the next iron banner
@@MrJakeasaur98 i think your right
@@MrJakeasaur98 the worst part about artifact power is that it doesn't do anything in any activity except nightfall
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Am I the only one that use to just sit in orbit to listen to the beautiful soundtrack while talking with the boys about life
the vibe
i do that when I’m alone and start to tear up cuz of all the good times I had
I just started playing D2 for the first time again this week. I first bought D2 at release, played for an hour or two, then requested a refund from Blizzard when something felt "off". After they thanked me for all the years of business, they refused to refund me, and I basically never touched the game again until now. After playing for about 10 hours I just couldn't put my finger on what felt off still... Yes the game is beautiful, yes the gunplay is fantastic, but it's just not the same game and I wasn't sure what it was. This video basically sums up exactly what your going to feel if you played D1. I hate the Crucible now when it used to be my favorite part of the game. Maybe the endgame will be fun, but I can already tell by the mountain of drops they're giving me that nothing will feel special. I'm only playing with friends, but man, why does all our favorite games (mostly MMOs) go through this same death cycle? So much nostalgia with the Destiny brand and I'm sad things change like they do. I guess that's life, but Video Games aren't life, that's the point, and here I am ranting on TH-cam instead of playing the game, which is all you need to know. Oh well, nice video, glad I'm not alone. Sorry for the long comment. To anyone who read this whole thing, Merry Christmas! :)
Damn dude you said it better than anyone else
Like check
@@kylecruz1327 got dayum thanks homie
I WANT THE BIG SPARROW MAPS IN PVP BACK
Bastion was my favorite but also skyshock with its bridge fights, those were my favorites too.
Quality over quantity. Too many games make the mistake of throwing hundreds of hours of content at you, and barely any of it is good quality (looking at you AC Origins/Odyssey).
There’s still quality it’s just not very legendary Engram you pick up. There are raid exclusive weapons and armor still and other loot lock behind certain content like menagerie or dungeons. We do have a lot more loot and I’m not mad at that going a long while D1 without any legendaries dropping felt like wasted effort it’s why loot caves existed. You don’t need loot caves as much now because you can just play the game and you’ll get a legendary. Even in that legendary loot pool players are looking for specific things and stat rolls so there’s still that factor of I finally got it. It’s just a different way of going about it. D2 just needs to incentivize some of its content better.
Origins was amazing, not so sure about odyssey but I was just obsessed with origin quests because I kept edge walking looking badass.
@rhec710nation Eastern/Oregon it used to cost 60 dollars, and the dlcs were not free as they are now, are you sure you played it for years? a lot of y1 players have easily spent 100$+ on destiny, just to play the content. Just because its free now doesn't mean everyone magically gets their money back.
@rhec710nation Eastern/Oregon The only reason it's free is because people paid massive sums of money for multiple DLCs. I think in D2 alone for just the game and DLCs(not silver but that will not be part of the equation) I have spent upwards of 250 dollars. Destiny 2 is a great FREE game, but paid game, not so much and could be a lot better story wise. All of the story goes into lore, which in simple terms; it really sucks.
Yeah, Destiny 1 might have been going for open world, but it didn't go that ubisoft-sandbox-content-drought far. Look at Seasonal content. I mean Public event stuff like is fun and all, but what the fuck happened in the creativity department, I mean Shadowkeep was the moon only rise-of-iron-ified, champions are cool but don't work, how do we let shit like this fly, don't get me started on trials.
It's so satisfying to hear someone with a similar opinions. My biggest gripe with D2 is still that the endgame and grind is just so weak, and the armor design, in my opinion, is mostly awful compared to D1 honestly.
Glad I’m not the only one
D1 armor had that old, rustic, militaristic look.
D2 armor is space wizard 2 electric boogaloo
This is exactly how I feel about Borderlands 3 vs Borderlands 2, Borderlands 3 is just so many legendaries all the time I don't even care what they are, but Borderlands 2 has a much better loot system where it feels rewarding getting the weapon you were looking for with good parts.
Also in bl2 the gun you had, combined with your build was what made it good. In bl3 you are farming for base damage increases on grenade throw annoints to overcome 10000% health bullet sponges.
This is exactly how i feel about BL3. When a game just throws things at me frequently im simply bound to become desensitized to it. Its not fun for me.
Both games are pretty crappy to be fair. They easily have the worst grinding and endgame systems I have ever seen in an RPG and trust me as someone who’s played and finished SMT Nocturne many times that is saying a lot (even though Nocturne is more based on game knowledge rather than mindless farming)
Not to mention in Borderlands TH-camrs are basically telling players that they should use modded gear even though it breaks terms and services agreements that you agreed upon when you first made a console account
I guarantee you if Destiny had modded gear you would have seen TH-camrs and twitch streamer telling people to use it even if you get banned
Not all TH-camrs the most of them they want Destiny to be a broken game because they make money off that kind of content
Simon Jack especially the fuckers who do paid carries
I remember playing D1 with the windows open, the smell of fresh air flooding the house. The vibe was unforgettable
I remember watching outside your window
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that’s it. i’m making a new account and playing destiny 1 all over again
Same I did
@Anomitas I played it since day 1 😔
I can help ppl and i need help too
My psn acc is ( Horse_operator )
@@Siege_Engine can I have some help please? I'll add you, my psn name is The_Funky_Child
@@justinsteinbach2174 i played since beta 😪 i miss it
Amen brother. I don't get why people keep saying that loving D1 more is "nostalgia". This isn't some 20 year old game. D1 was all the rage 4-5 years ago. As a complete package, it just feels like a FULL game. Creating a new char in D1 is a joy, to go through the leveling and all the missions (that are still there untouched). Creating a D2 char is scary, to go through the goddamn seasonal grind. D2 is fun with friends and it keeps you coming back but soon you realize it's more a job than entertainment. Nothing is ever going to beat playing through Taken King and Rise of Iron.
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Legit I agree with this. In D2 you can just stack tokens for stuff!
Like if Bungie put a rank thing on Vanguard/Crucible and it had like 100 ranks for a 3 months period (like a season).
It will be instantly done by most hardcore players but over-time it would create that endgame progression.
- The only endgame progression in D2 is maxing the season pass and doing the weekly BD bounties.
You missed the raids dungeon GM nightfalls and titles to chase but yah no endgame.
@@StatusCaIamitous GM Nightfalls?
If its endgame - why is BNG capping the golf balls and prisms? (its just a temporary title chase to fill content drought lol)
Mystery elytS gm is the best farming methods for those it would just be broken if they gave more and token staking I don’t think I remember a season instead of now that tokens Gabe good loot irrelevant look at things
What do you mean by stacking tokens that is like the most piss poor way to get loot
@@Fadegalaxy-mv4mp when you're hardcore and can easily earn 300+ tokens a week. I don't need to cash them in - shards and cores are piss. They're a common thing.
I've easily got 20-30k tokens.
Why would i not stack them after i have 30k shards? The vendors offer nothing of value.
Idk - if you like cashing 20 tokens, and 100 gs materials, who am i to stop you. Play as you like. And i will too.
the Biggest mistake bungie made was splitting up the Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 community, they should've just updated Destiny 1 with more expansions, missions, updates, etc. instead of making a whole new game.
I dont know if you agree but i wish they ported destiny 1 to pc
They wanted to, however they had a contract with Activision so per contract they had to make D2. There original plan was to keep D1 going like D2 is…
@@jmatrix010 Dang, that really sucks🤦🏽♂️
It wouldn't have worked. Destiny 1 was made with Xbox 360 and PS3 in mind. Even once they dropped support for them, those were still holding them back. If anything, Bungie should've made a Destiny 3 instead of keeping Destiny 2 going if they were going to remove content from the game. What's the point if you have no way to actually play through the entire story of Destiny.
Technical limits aside, it would've been best if they kept one game going the whole time though.
The consoles they were made for are on today's standards considered total shit-tier. Awful memory capacity and management, even worse storage capacity and oh god the connectivity.
The Prison of Elders is one of the fondest memories I have on D1. Being in a fireteam with my friends, and hearing Variks announce each of the bosses before you fight them, and the satisfaction of opening the chest at the end of it. It was pure bliss, something that D2 is lacking in.
Something i really hate about d2 is that most strike bosses have long and annoying immune phases compared to the few and engaging ones in d1
every d1 boss had immunity phases, its just that they were broken usually by doing a mechanic instead of killing all the ads.
@@await2487 Either way I feel as if they felt more engaging and less of an inconvenience compared to the ones in d2
@@panniniman8631 exactly what im saying, immunity phases can be fun
@@await2487 ?!?!?!?!? What do you mean bro? I never left d1 because I can't afford a PS4 or a good PC so I'm still playing d1 on TTK and almost no bosses have a immune phase (i'm referring strike bosses) the only one who has a immune phase is the eco chamber, where you have to put the relic on its place so you can damage theosyion
@@arandomwarlock7414 sepiks perfects and the nexus mind both go immune but have cool mechanics to break, rise of iron added a bunch
Anyone else happy that he mentioned hunsky raid
He was my favorite d1 youtuber
If you had played D1 since Year 1
You’d understand why it’s been 1 year a 2 months since I’ve played D2.
They started to recycle D2 into D1 because they ran out of creative ideas.
“Wow, this gun is gonna be my main” *sunsetted*
“Wow, this loadout seems to be my go to for PvP” *nerfed*
“Dude the Titan is STILL the best character in the game” *Buffs it again in the new expansion coming next month*
Like are you messing
Yk I think i was recently able to put my finger on why I prefer d1. D2 just has this strange feeling of being like an oversaturated magical fantasy game. D1 however had this amazing feeling of being like a true space game where I'm invested in the story/aliens/space travel etc
Flawless video. I loved Destiny and sank thousands of hours into it.
Then Destiny 2 turned Destiny into something that feels like a job. I wasn't logging in because I wanted to scratch an itch, i was logging in because i couldn't miss the opportunity to get the drops that week to increase my power level. So I eventually got over it and stopped playing. I'd love for Bungie to give me another Destiny experience. I think the moment's gone now though 😔
Exactly. D2 is a chore to play. Never has it been an itch that needed scratching
@@NovemberHotel yeah. It started to feel like a chore to me when season of worthy launched. Before that, from new light to dawn, i was enjoying my time learning and doing raids, especially last wish, since i started during new light.
@@NovemberHotel Thats how i feel about a lot of new live games. A chore to keep up with. same with the latest modern warfare. a chore to keep up with all the battle passes and weapons and its not about playing any more its just driven by a FOMO and thats why I cant stay into it for very long. It becomes stressful.
snazzypants57 totally agree man. I miss when games had a point and you could finish something
@@snazzypants57 ikr. That's the only thing i dislike about live games. Too much unnecessary grind and fomo as well. Video games are meant to be a means of enjoyment and experiencing a story the developer wants to put out. Just imagine if bungie actually cared about the quality of the storytelling in this game. Massive difference.
I really don’t like when the power level increase every season when I came back to destiny I was always behind in power level I agree
Yeah, I agree, in D2 Year 2 they had a quest for each season release that would give you gear that was at the minimum power cap so you could try out the new content immediately, I don’t get why they dropped that.
D1 made me the happiest person ever. I wasn't even 12 years old at the time and I played it so much. Anytime I got anything good, I was the most excited kid ever. There will probably never be a time like this ever again.
I honestly love the designs of the D1 gear more than D2.
Like I absolutely loved the designs of the Guardiens in the early D1 trailers such as the Warlocks gear and how they’re essentially a space wizard wearing stuff that Star Lord from Guardiens of the Galaxy would wear. Now it’s like all the best gear has to be this crazy, flashy, light show literally metal armor gear with neon becoming super common.
I missed the days where all the best gear was this stuff Guardians fashioned from what they found such as coats, furs, weathered coats, leather, etc.
Destiny gear has honestly gotten progressively less and less appealing with this need to have it look like it would fit in something like World or Warcraft with how it’s all styled and designed.
Yeah, everything in Destiny 2 looks freshly made which is super lame. Destiny 1 was all about wearing what you found in a post-apocalyptic galaxy, with all the aged relics of a far-gone golden age.
Grinded for a gwnawing hunger in reckoning,only for it to be given out like Candy to everyone else.
I got 5 of em from engrams
Well you had hours for over a year and it has different rolls
Ryan Long yea,but I just hate it when a person grinds for a specific roll only for that weapon to be given away like candy later.
@@mannysilveira5967 tbh, beside the look of the gun and archetype, it's a different gun. I would be pissed though if people got it from the same activity and it had the same stat roles
What is wrong getting easy access weapons. It's not like everyone can count on you 24/7 to support them in getting better weapons. It reduces the huge ego players get when getting high end gear and treat other players like dogs.
I definitely agree with this, i wish destiny 1 had some sort of remaster/revival
In ps5? Hell yeah man brilliant idea
@@Siege_Engine and Xbox series x
A PC port would be brilliant
I loved how everything in destiny one felt like there was tons of secrets to find I remember when ttk came out and how many things there was to find in the dreadnought and secret encounters and farm spots you could just spend hours running around
Definitely hit the nail on the number of legendary gears that drop on D1 vs D2.
Also the crucible in D1 was good.
I do miss the levelling up system on weapons. Where you had to spend motes or play the game to level up weapons and unlock the perks. Also the weapons offered the players to choose the perks they want after unlocking the weapon perks.
D2 mods are OK and good substitute. But I feel as though 4 years of D1 development has gone down the drain. Its a shame bungie did not capitalise on the success of D1 and replicate some of the old stuff of D1 on to D2.
I've recently come back and after 2 weeks of grinding, I'm now fed up of it again.
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Preach it, brother. So true.
I TOTALLY agree with the loot aspect. Personally I spent 36 runs trying to get 100k voices and even still loved that. I will never understand why people want their loot to be so easy to come by when all it dose is devalue the feeling you get when it drops. Destiny is favoring the shooter aspect over the looter aspect a lot more in d2.
It took me about A YEAR to get ikelos sniper rifle in D2 because Rngesus hated me, and the rifle itself was meh, i never used it. Your argument is invalid.
your point is invalid :/
If they are gonna sunset shit making loot harder to get is the dumbest shit I have heard. Exotics are ok tho cause they are not going away
Robel Beyene Mayzser sensetting is an unfortunate byproduct of our community begging for more. We asked for more weapons until they became game breaking just to be viable. I do not understand why we need to sunset armor but I for one am glad to see mountaintop/revoker/erenteil (aka non skill weapons) leave the game.
And here I am getting 1K on my first run. That was the first and last time I did that raid😅
Yeah, I'm growing really tired of seeing my Power Level reset every 3 months with the main goal of each new Season to get back to the same Power Level that I was at in the previous Season. And for what, why do we even want to keep raising our Power Level? So little content even requires a high enough level anyway, and the ones that do offer beyond trash rewards. The Prophecy Dungeon, cool in design, but the rewards are simply not worth my time.
D1 > D2. I said it back in 2017, I said it again even after Forsaken, and I continued to say it after Shadowkeep.
Dude if they did a D1 remaster with D2 QoL and released the raids like 1 a month at a nice price, I'd be down.
I somewhat agree with you but i still prefer d2.. mostly because the quality of life improvements but what i noticed is that many hate the season model but in d1 in the time between ttk and rise of iron we all would loved the season model
Many seem to forget that we had nearly 1 year of no new Content.. exept the April Update but that was really shallow.. what i mean is that everybody wanted new Content and bungie got hated hard for that.. i hated that time too
And you cant blame bungie for showering us with loot because many players wanted that in d1.. the same with the grind.. and bungie rather listened to 90% of the players who hated the grind and ignored the rest wich is unterstandable
But i respect your opinion and lets see what beyond light brings around
Except that the content we're getting in between expansions is terrible. Also Bungie puts resources into that content which means less content for big expansions (Shadowkeep). Content droughts are bad but seasons aren't a solution. They're basically content droughts that Bungie puts time into making.
The great thing about the content drought between ttk and roi is that I actually got to play other games that came out during that time like Overwatch and Rainbow Six: Seige; nowadays with D2 I feel like I either have to play it exclusively if I want to even be able to do new content or never play and focus on other games. So I think that Destiny 2 is probably better for people that never want to stop playing Destiny, but I prefer Destiny 1's system more because it gave me time to play other games that I love and allowed me to savor the content more.
ilyas abdolcader A good amount of D2’s Raids are more mechanically complex and creative and aren’t artificially made difficult through high power. Most of VoG revolves around just shooting ads and killing specific ads
ilyas abdolcader Well your criticism for D2 Raids being just killing ads would be an unfair criticism considering you don’t play the more simple Raids. On top of that the argument that D2 is more grindy isn’t necessarily a bad thing, just means you have to commit more time for it. I was not a fan of how easy it was to hit max power because you didn’t have to put a lot of effort to get to 400. Not only that but high power doesn’t really matter considering only a small minority of activities require you to have high power
@ilyas abdolcader Mate, Destiny Raids aren't difficult because of mechanics. No one does 390 VoG and goes "Bro the mechanics are challenging and require focus" D1 Raids are so mechanically simple that the only way to make them difficult is by raising the power.
I remember when I first got the arc sword from shax in d1 I was happy I miss d1 staying up all night with ur mates doin raids shitting ur self in Crota first time doin it wish those days could come back rip d1 ur all in our hearts
Couldn't agree more man. The raids in destiny 1 really kept me engaged. Perfecting them was such a satisfying venture. Mabye it will get remastered! Who knows?
I don't play d1 because it just makes me tear up how bungie threw away something so good I remember that music when I would load in hop on my hunter and play with my old friends 😭
Year 1 and year 2 destiny's golden era
this video resonates with me
I’m gonna be honest, I’ve been playing a lot of D1 again to mainly finish my exotic collection, and while I wait for Solstice. And honestly, besides Strikes, pvp, raids, art direction and certain parts of lore, I think most thinks in D2 have been better. Even exotics as a whole, while D1 has a lot stronger exotics it also has a lot worse exotics than D2. Looking in my kiosk some of these weapons make me wonder how was this a exotic? Plan C is a good example, while it isn’t bad it’s just, how are you worth the exotic slot?
90% of armour and exotic weapons in d2 are absolutely useless
to each their own man. D2 just doesn't have enough to keep me grinding. Meanwhile 90 hours later on my new D1 account i'm still invested almost daily
NovemberHotel I agree.
David Butler please don’t act like D1 didn’t also have this same problem. Name the last time you went into a raid with Universal Remote, Hard Light, Telesto, Hereafter, Patience and Time, Last Word, Thorn, Nova Mortis, Super Good Advice, No Time to Explain, Jade Rabbit, First Curse, The Chaperone, Necrochasm, Monte Carlo, Trespasser, Truth etc
Forcer half of those guns you just named were very viable for stuff outisfe of raids
I remember around the time of HOW I stayed home from school all week and farmed strikes all week to try and get a dry rot shotgun with full auto. Never got it but even though along the way I completed the Cerberus Vei III what felt like 100 times I never got bored of it. It genuinely had some difficulty and teaming up with random people in the early hours of the morning often made for a good time. This is something I just can’t say for D2. D2 really just lacks that feeling of destiny that I can’t really explain. D2 just isn’t it, never has been and I really don’t think it ever will be. Quite sad considering D1 was my sole game for three whole years and somehow even through year long content droughts playing through the game over and over was more fun than 99% of the content D2 has to offer.
Unreal how good d1 music is and how meaningful most drops are, went back just to get a vex year three
I will always love destiny 1 forever but I feel that both games have their pros and cons d1 isn’t perfect but it will always have a special place in my heart
But destiny 2 has a lot to offer and I was in the same boat where I left for a long period of time but I came back and I’m having a lot of fun
Not d2 isn’t perfect but d1 isn’t either and I agree with a lot of the points in this vid I don’t think one is better than the other I love both of them equally for example I think pvp is more fleshed out in d2 but very not chill for the most part but I also feels rewarding when you can finally get good at pvp while d1 pvp is very fun and more open with weapon options available like no land (love that gun) like everyone has their own opinion and I thought I’d just share mine
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You are right
Played destiny 1 now for 6 months and i must say, it feels much better than destiny 2 ☺️☺️
I had one epic when i was by the cryptarch and i opend 2 legendary engrams and both turned into exotics. That was so awesome 😃😁
D1 is fun and all but I prefer d2, I haven’t even touched d1 since bungie came out with the seasonal content
Yes... just yes. And honestly, elemental primary weapons were one of the main things that kept me playing because they were difficult to get but totally worth the effort
The biggest thing for me with D1 was that you had a reason to chase loot, even if I got what I wanted, I'd do raids and nightfalls to help out others. With D2 I only look at what cosmetics I am missing because there really isn't anything to chase other than raid loot.
Sooo I might be of the unpopular opinion here, but my experiences was as follows (warning, super long comment).
I got D1 when it launched, and I only played for at most 2 months. I stopped after that because I couldn't accept what little was available to do in the game and playing by myself didn't interest me enough. I came back I think a year after (could've been 2 i'm not sure) to do some crucible, but every playlist was locked off except for the mixed playlist because I didn't have any expansions/season pass. That ticked me off so I left again and never came back to D1.
D2 I came in after I was told about new light (game being free) and some of my friends wanted to play with me. So I said sure I'll try it. And my experience was much better having a lot more at my disposal to do and other people to point out what I can do and do activities with them. I also liked the general gameplay changes, mainly the movement speed increase. Now this next part is only specific to me so this did alter my thoughts of the game. My friends got me forsaken and shadowkeep as christmas gifts so the entire game was at my disposal. Having all the stuff to do kept me busy for long periods of time.
That being said, I stopped a month into season of the worthy and came back for season of arrivals. Season 11 got me interested in the game again with the umbral engram system and lore, the new dungeon helped quite a bit. With the content drought starting to now happen cause of Beyond Light being pushed back to november, I took the time to do forsaken and shadowkeep campaigns. I really liked forsaken and shadowkeep, ehhhhhh season 11 helped cause of the pyramid ships and the darkness, otherwise wasn't as interesting. I can't lie tho, my interest in Beyond Light is keeping me around at least when it comes to news about it. I know of the main 3 subclasses being around since Taken King so I want to use the stasis subclasses come november.
well said bro, I have over 5000 hours in d1 and theres no point in going back. I played and got everything that I wanted. I sure as hell recommend people to play the first game but honestly d2 to me is far superior. The only thing I currently miss is Dreg's promise and I would say hawkmoon but its already confirmed to return! so yeah sincerely I think d1 is not nearly as exciting to a veteran.
Well that’s not the games fault, you didn’t buy the DLCs so you can’t play the DLC content
@@chief6163 I could understand the pve lock off. But pvp lock out? That was absurd at the time and i'm just glad D2 didn't pull that stunt.
@@NamelessDream I must agree and disagree only because I am also a veteran and don't quite agree that D2 is far superior , now does some things better sure but , raid weapons and armor meant something . Like offering more damage to oracles in vault of glass , and not to mentioned better themed armor included . Sadly you are right not much of a reason to return tho outside of nostalgia purposes besides seems they can't come up with anything new so eventually all of D1 will end up in D2 sooner or later
Kenzita I don't think I saw a single cheater in D1 even once cuz it was only on console. so the paid crucible still had no reasoning
2 years later, I must say I definitely disagree. D2 has come so far from what it once was and feels great (at least when there isn't a bug messing with the game). Going to play d1 is fun every now and then, but I honestly can't go back and say it's better than what we have now.
Completely agree with everything you say in the video. I’m really disappointed that they are releasing Beyond Light instead of D3. I genuinely want them to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. But it seems like that’ll never happen, and the original dream of Destiny is lost forever :(
The first ever time I landed on Mars I had no idea what to expect of the Cabal. Then, when I walked a few yards, this intimidating, powerful and frightning music started playing while robotic forces charged at me. Every time I hear that music, it reminds me of that moment and that's why I love Destiny 1.
You don’t gotta explain.
_3rd August 2020_
Don't you mean you don't have time to explain to explain
Honestly I’m in between both games, I like D2’s content release because back in TTK we’d get some content and then no content for months, but I don’t like when they give us content you can complete in 2 hours so often, or when they’re broken like the felwinters quest last season.
tbh id rather that than these shitty seasons with barely any content
@Sneaklone problem is u gotta pay extra for the seasons and they kinda suck and extremely low effort
destiny 1 is a game I put in close to 600 hours in during 6th-7th grade when I played it. It had a vibe to that is still indescribale. Just hopping in the crucible, doing weekly challenges with randoms, and grinding to get exotics or cool gear was so good. Its one of the few games during 2014-2016 when I was in middle school that truly encapsulate that era for me.
I never could really get into D2, and while I think that was partly due to other stuff going on in my life and just gaming less in general, this really hits on a lot of the other reasons that I could only partly put into words. Thank you ❤
I don't like the content model of D2 but I still prefer it to D1 solely for the gameplay. D1 feels like a slog and I can play for hours and not feel like I accomplished anything. Of course I respect anyone that still prefers D1 cause I get all the criticisms of D2 atm, and agree with a lot of them.
I feel an issue is having people’s opinions be more determined by their nostalgia and that bias basically telling themselves that “X is worse or not as good” instead of looking through what I consider a more analytical view of things
Hold on, back up, you don’t feel like your getting anywhere in d1 after grinding, well most people would say that’s how d2 feels, and if your getting that feeling in d1 it’s cause your not doing the right stuff, cause the d1 level grind is very quick
@@illumitiDash Dunno about that fam, I spent a week in D1 and got basically nothing, meanwhile in D2 I have almost every exotic and tons of great guns.
Granted I've been playing D2 for a year
Lava Dude62 your doing somthing wrong then, been to 0-400 light in 30 hours of playtime on 2 accounts and had top tier builds on each in 10 more hours after that
The anticipation and waiting for new content made it so much better when you got it. Destiny 1 is still my favourite.
Loading up the Destiny 1 BETA I knew I was hooked for it's lifespan and beyond
Idk what it is but ive never been able to get into d2. D1 was such a amazing game and the feelings it brought are unexplainable. D2 just doesn’t have that feeling
Even though I love Destiny 2 to death, I can agree on most of the points you've made in this video.
I know that if I managed to put more time in Destiny 1 after I was able to play it again in December of 2016. (I played year one but I broke my xbox before year 2) I know I would be able to enjoy d1 way more than d2.
I wish I had and still have people that I can jump in to d1 with to play once in a while.
I miss when games where fun and not tasks. Rip 1994-2012 golden era.
Simply: destiny 1 was more challenging
That's why some people love it
Definitely why I’m happy with their new announcements, harder raids and better loot for nightfalls, dungeons and raids in the form of adept weapons. Reduced power grind and a look into the balance of certain guns and builds. Excited for the future of D2.
that didn't age well
dang one of if not the best vid i've watched in a while u had so many great points that i agreed with and brought up some of the positions that i had but had never really realized over all 10/10
Thanks man!
That destiny 1 music hit different
I never played D1, but the more I see your incredible vids, the more nostalgia I get. It's so weird to miss something you never experienced...
D1 will never be forgotten…d2 is already forgotten by many
I personally love D2, and I’ve never played the first one, but I can agree with many points that are made in this video.
This explained how I feel perfectly. Thank you.
Another good thing about d1 was you couldn’t just buy everything xur has but in d2 you’ll have more legendary shards then you know what to do, I also liked that he was always in the tower so you would run around looking for him rather then looking it up and I liked that he came at 4:00 in the morning rather then noon
Bro when I here that D1 music like oh my gosh it’s just this feeling, I can’t explain. So much nostalgia I remember playing that game. So ahead of its time it was amazing and still visit it sometimes. I still play D1 and D2.
I started playing D1 about 1 year into playing D2 as I was bored of the current content. Currently I play D1 more than the latter Just feels like a more complete, better game imo. I'm at 381 power and soloed crota (Went through my rite of passage), but I totally agree with you on this video. Destiny 1 is a much more neatly packaged product that doesn't make me feel like I'm wasting my life for putting some hours into it.
And even after 4 years of D1, bungie never removed a planet or any loot! The state of D2 is beyond worse (no pun intended)
Destiny 2 is a good game but what I hate in d1 is that strike bosses are bullet sponges
@@NightHawk-ix9fv i see what you mean, but I honestly feel they're much more fun in the sense that there's a danger for being out of position and you gotta also watch for ads because they can really mess a run up. It also is very possible to melt bosses but it requires a lot more effort and coordination than rather just shooting them once with an Izanagi x4 and one shotting them. I often forget destiny 2 bosses have mechanics because everything just gets 1shot..
u still play? xbox?
While you made some great points I have to disagree with your argument. I like most Destiny fans have over 5000 hours of gameplay between both games and even then Destiny 2 is the better game. Think about it D2 has more build variety (Minus subclasses) with armor and weapons. Plus weapons feel more impactful and powerful (Adding to the power fantasy of being essentially space mages with guns). Some points I definitely agree on is Crucible game flow, Armor art direction and Xur other than that most of the points are basically more refined in Destiny 2 but at the end of the day we can all agree both games are fantastic in their own right but most D1 die hards need to accept the facts that when all the D1 content comes to D2 over the next 3 years it’ll be hard to say this is the superior product.
Thats true
Man, I remember grinding for Sleeper and Gjallahorn... good times. Even in D2, before it became ftp, the Ace of Spades was also fun to grind for... I miss the good old days so, so much.
The minute you played that title theme music.
-boom-
it hit me hard.
Wish the 360/ps3 servers were just shut down and they gave us a true next gen patch,it's s crime that destiny 1 is not on pc and is permanently given the 30 fps treatment. Edit: i think Activision own d1 so yeah never.
It’s true though they keep making destiny 2 too easy for people why grind to get a gnawing hunger in reckoning wen u can just easily get it from the prismatic recaster
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This video is brilliant, put so many of my thoughts into words! Only thing I'd add is the art style and ambience in D1 which made it feel more like you were there and less like a cartoon (D2)
Yes, d2 doesn't feel as serious
Even though I like D2 more, I love D1 aswell. Your opinion gave me a new look on these games and even though I like to constantly grind because I usually get bored I still like to take time off. I really hope Beyond light is great and will make the game even better.
Thank you Destiny for making my past 5 years just a little better.
The difference is D2 being on PC data mining has ruined the mystery of the game
Drive Check. Yeah but it took away that excitement of going in after a reset to see if you get anything
I honestly believe if Activision didnt push bungie to make d2, they would still be updating d1 and d2 wouldn't exist.
If only that was reality, this timestream would be complete.
if they only were never with Activision in the first place. I hope they could remaster it for PC and next-gen consoles
Rewatching your D1 vids because I want some nostalgia and damn I wanna do some raids again
D1 makes me want to cry bc it reminds me of my childhood. Started playing the beta at 14 and I’m now 21
this guy said easy pve but no one can make that comment until they complete the corrupted strike on grandmaster difficulty. it took most over 9 hours to complete
The fact of the matter is people don’t want the harder content, they just act like they want it
Things like Grandmaster nightfalls aren't true difficulty in my eyes, though. You're still running a strike, that, by design, is simple and easy. If you only care about the completion of a GM, you run 2 (or 3) hunters and you skip a large majority of each strike. Hiking up enemy power level to the point that nearly anything one shots you and requiring a lock and key system via champions to force loadouts isn't fun for what seems to be a large majority of people. At some point, something difficult for the sake of being difficult isn't fun.
I think Destiny managed to find the balance of difficult AND entertaining content in most aspects, especially raids.
@@StatusCaIamitous exactly people complain about not having hard content so bungie gives them it and then they bitch that its too hard
It’s not hard though... all Bungie have done is nerf your power output by artificially reducing your dps and throwing more bullet sponges into a repetitive, predictable strike. A team with the correct loadout can breeze through.
@@anix2457 you hit it dead on!
I must have done VoG 30 times before I finally got my vex mythoclast
I'm in awe. You put everything I am feeling into words this is my favorite video.
Being playing Destiny 1 now one week I don't know how to describe it, it feels like those wonderful halo moments when but in the world of Destiny but you don't have to grind in the same way, you can just enjoy playing and you don't have to play for work
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I think most if not all D1 players prefer D1 over D2
I was a casual player not even a raider but it just feels better. D2 just has so many steps to get pinnacle loot that isn't even entertaining.
I don't
I can vouch that.
I preferred D2 I made way more memories with it since I made so many friends on pc and finally managed to do raids and trials (of the nine) and in D1 I was always a solo player. That might just be a me problem but D2 I had more fond memories of friendship :)
Chaos I understand that as I didn’t even really enjoy D1 until somewhere around the House of Wolves dlc because I was just a solo player at that point
I’m going to provide a different opinion here.
The vibe of D1 is unmatched in my opinion, but I honestly prefer Destiny 2 because of the gameplay changes.
For example, whenever I get on D1, I miss being able to grapple onto edges whenever I do jumping sections. I miss my dodging ability to reload my weapons or get my melee back. I miss having a primary weapon in my special slot and vice versa. As much as I love Destiny 1 and how much it holds a place in my heart, there are aspects of Destiny 2 that I prefer over the original game.
Of course, it is my opinion. Just thought I’d express mine as well.
Fair enough man. Glad to hear it.
D1 gunplay is better and more satisfying that's is why and everyone keeps taking it back to the content. Which is really not what kept people playing trials with no new updates till the day it was done.
@@ggeneous647 d1 gunplay feels like beating your meat with your nails imo
@@Ibrahim-dj5hu really?? It was so satisfying. To fire hand canons, what about getting as sniper kill? What about nlb. Ahhh literally the best thing ever
@@ggeneous647 well not maybe as bad as i descriped it to be but for me it feels kinda outdated for some reason
I totally agree with you, I wanna play d2 but like you said the feeling of always having to catch up and grind power levels, never feeling accomplished just pisses me off and for some reason I’d actually get anxiety over it. I know some might say that’s weird it’s just a game. But like yourself I really love the destiny universe and it makes me sad that this is the route they are taking it. I just want to be able to play and not worry about having to do it all over again and waste my limited time that I can sit down and play.
D1 intro soundtrack...nostalgia for sure!