Just to be clear, I was wrong about Destiny 2 signaling the return of Bungie's glory days. I was wrong about many other things and I want to clear them up.
@@kolowatttz5321 halo 4's story was awesome. Halo 5's multiplayer was great. Let's hop Infinite will have Halo 4's level of story and 5's level of multiplayer experience.
"Listen Bungie, you can't take things that we bought away from us" It's funny to watch this 3 years later after they've literally made the original game and first DLCs unplayable
I got back into the game just a couple weeks ago, and i was actually kinda sad i couldnt play through the red war again. Its kind of insane to see how different the game is is 4 years later
Ngl, at the time i was hyped when i heard that bungie left Activision, thought that the game could finally be what it should be But it turns out the game got even worse after parting with activision, they just flipped the fattest bird to his playerbase: -Deleting old (Paid) content from the game -Mass sunsetting, making your old, hard earned gear obsolete -Red War campaign gone, now new players can't even know why the fuck they are fighting nor what happened before New Light -Light Level is a blatant powercreep its a fucking joke
The best part is to find people still defending that, I can defend shit, but not when that shit doesn’t treat me good, Destiny is an abusive lover that it’s not worth your pain at all
Hhhmmm should I buy an expansion for The Witcher 3 that gives me at least 40 hours of gameplay that costs $20 or an expansion for Destiny 2 that gives me 90 minutes that also costs $20??? HHHHMMMMMM
14:30 "They've spent so much time expanding the cosmetic microtransaction content that they've left the actual content out to dry" That is so spot on and accurate dude. D2's endgame is spendgame. Bungie sacrificed their core Destiny 1 fans completely with D2 in a desperate attempt to attract a more casual audience who is easier to prey upon with microtransaction nonsense. Thanks for including my clip. Warframe is where I spend my time now, I recommend trying it out dude, its really good
BBKDRAGOON While Warframe is making his own stairway to heaven, Destiny jumped into the deepest valley because he saw some money falling into it. Big fan BTW
The storytelling has improved a lot, however the gameplay and ideas generally suck, hope they could get even greater ideas or get many developers to help them
@@thundageon5962 Turns out Infinite's campaign was hot garbage but at least the mp was pretty good, sucks that pretty much everything related to the multiplayer is garbage tho.
the truth is only 5% of the original Bungie team still works there....this is NOT the glory days Bungie, and we should stop hoping or believing that they will return to that type of quality
...This new Bungie is legitimately not the same Bungie that made Halo. Like, literally. Marty isn't there anymore, neither is the story director of the old Halo. Most likely, the rest of the behind the scene team from 10 years ago has disbanded as well... "Bungie" is simply another developer now. Like when a new CEO comes in and replaces the old employees in a company. Only the name bares resemblance to the former company.
I just want 343 to bring back the people that made Bungie great. On that topic, in all of this, Microsoft is looking more and more like the best company out there to publish with
Isaiah’s Bias Then again, this isnt really bungie's fault, its Activisions. They have been taking all the great companies we've seen such as Bungie and corrupting them unwillingly with their greed, just as they did with Blizzard when they turned WoW into a blazing pile of shit with low quality expansions and constant additions afterwards. Though the unfortunate part is that no one has formaly addresed them as the problem, which is what truly gives these actually great companies such a shit image.
My god... i can't believe i didn't see that. Now i know how rhe Arbiter felt. My favorite character ironically. I guess everyone who still loves this game are the Brutes...
Once is an anomaly, twice is a coincidence and third is a statistic. Well bungie wants to define fourth and beyond with the franchise I suppose. The main problem is people keep buying it, stop buying and better business practices will be in place.
I only paid for the damn pass to keep playing with friends because honestly I wasn't all that enthused about it because I knew it was going to disappoint and it did.
I love people who judge things when they never played the game. Go try destiny my dude, it’s free now, I bet you have a good time. Once you are done come back to this comment and tell me how you feel then.
I quit the moment they announced “sunsetting weapons and armor” fuckin “oh ha ha you payed money for these?? Well we’re gonna remove them and you can buy the NEW versions of these weapons! You did the grind for the Repulse smg and the Mountain Top launcher?? Too bad! All that is gone!!”
The sad truth is that the people who made Halo at Bungie are gone. Basically the current team at Bungie is completely different that the crew that made Bungie's classic games. I saw that shift happening around Destiny 1 and haven't supported Bungie games since. Their soul is totally gone.
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Hmm... Halo 4 - Good story, shitty multiplayer with pointless Spartan Ops Halo 5 - Shitty story, average multiplayer with microtransactions Halo: Spartan Assault - Cash grab Halo Wars 2 - RTS with low support and was basically made to advance 343i's convoluted story I respectfully disagree with you. I believe it's time to stop making excuses, much like what MasterHumus said. Bungie's workforce, ex-employee or no, don't seem to have any problem with where Halo or Destiny are going.
@@cz.gazz. Bungie is "vaulting" the whole base campaign and the first two expansions, making them unavailable for everyone, even those who bought them.
@@marcushagglund7502 They are doing this because the game has become too large to balance/fix if bugs appear. i would recommend reading this article and this video about the topic. www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/08/26/aztecross-reveals-the-actual-reason-destiny-2s-content-vault-exists/#46e9854c3da1 th-cam.com/video/eNQRMwVbk_g/w-d-xo.html
Darth Erudius I mean, to be fair... not really. Especially when literally every other person on TH-cam... well in the world is saying the exact same thing. Everyone’s changing their opinion.
YesteryearsGamer Blizzard isnt owned by anyone. Theyre partnered with Activision to support Destiny 2 and possibly future Activision titles. WoW has been out forever and Activision-Blizzard has only been a partnership for less than 6 months so saying WoW is a product of* Activision is bullshit
The worst is when people defend Bungie saying the developers care and work hard. How do they care when they copy paste every single enemy, animation, and interaction. How is that working hard?
This is what I said to people before the game came out. I couldn’t even understand why they were so hyped for a game that looked exactly like the previous one. I get the same excuse every time “it’s a sequel it’s supposed to be the same” but it’s different. EVERY LITERAL thing is the same, I don’t think anyone would want to buy a game that’s basically a DLC. The only thing new they added was border in the HUD display around blocks
Maybe I just hang out with smart people but I've literally never met a person blind enough to defend Bungie. Then again, this video got over 1,300 dislikes so someone's still riding that stupid train, mouth open, cross-eyed with a huge grin on their face, wondering where their money went.
Its cuz they are bungie fanbous but they dont realise that the nest of bungie "the old bungie" has been fired. In 2014 because they didnt give them do anything in destiny1 and some leaved in 2010 befor halo4 came out. I like the old bungie who did halo 3 but the new ones are shit. They still have some of the older bungie era devloppers but the new ones suck. Fuck you activision.
It's funny how they left Microsoft and Halo to create something new and fresh, but then they join a shitty group like Activision and make games that are JUST as bad as Halo 5's plot
I defended Destiny for the first 3 years. Now... There's no way I can defend it. Bungie dug themselves into a hole that they will unlikely be able to recover from anytime soon. It really is a crap game. I too was wrong.
John, that's right, this NEW bungie that's been around for the last 4 years. The same shits who kicked out a founder and tried to strip him of his rights which was highly ill legal. The same company whose original members had left. And it was huge back then, nobody could miss it. Yet people forgot about everything when Destiny 2 started its marketing campaign.
When WOW releases an expansion, it introduces new races/classes to choose from. When Bungie releases a $60 SEQUEL they don't even give us new sub-classes I mean wtf man.
Because people already played this game, PLUS the previous, with the exact same 3 main classes. The sub classes already barely change your play style, but at the very least more of that should have been the minimum for a fully priced sequel. It's not that 9 sub classes are too many, it's that there are STILL only 3 main classes across 5 years of Destiny 1 and 2
@@Djqkiller lmao 9 choices... More like 4 or 5 depending on which content you are doing. Let's face it. Destiny is super stagnated atm because they're barely adding in any player choice. I won't buy the new 'expansion because they fucked the darkness subclasses up
"hey, they already payed 50 dollars for the game, let's make them pay the same price for a "Expansion" that offers 10x less content then the base game!" personal note: wtf is wrong with developers these days?
Publishers use fan's love and their naive nature and kill them with their own love. They are naive anf love a franchise and squeeze as much as they can from the fanbase. Sadly that is how it works and fans refuse to let it go, fans need self respect and not buy stuff. They need to have standards and not get abused by the devs.
Goodbye Bungie. You will be deeply missed. But, I still love you for your legacy... Activision... you can take our Bungie. But you’ll never take... OUR HALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It's because Activision owns them now probably. They are doing the same thing at Blizzard. Limiting creativity in favor of a surefire hook with little substance beyond good basic controls and gameplay.
Destiny is just a heavily modified version of halo's game engine. Now Destiny 2, its the absolute same thing as destiny 1 with a slightly modified UI and bull shit cash grab
Blizzard is still completely seperate, and has enough corporate power and money to sustain on its own without activision attatched to it, activision has nothing to do with their decisions.
@@wizardmaster7475 "I heard it from a TH-cam video" aaaaand now your comments are laughable. Why the fuck would you say that as a fact if your backup was "I just heard it from someone?" 😂
This was a power move on Bungie's part. Everyone is going to think since Activision isn't involved anymore we'll get a good game without a bunch of bullshit expansions and predatory microtransactions. Not gonna happen. They did the same thing TWICE and they won't hesitate to do it again. Anything for a quick buck.
@@arbiter- "g-g-guys! the crappy DLCs arent on bungies part, t-they were already planned out when activision wanted them! this isnt their fault!" -a million forum posts
@Old Liquid Overloaded? Meaning it has more content to explore. Destiny ends when the story ends. People say that the end game is where destiny shines but its just a small selection of shit done poorly. Raids for example. They're more of a minigame/puzzle, after someone finds out how to do it and uploads the footage. Everyone copies. To your 'and GUNS!' comment. The guns in destiny all feel simple, there's nothing special about picking up a weapon just because it has a higher number/level attached, there's barely any modding/customising and compaired to Warframes weapons, they're very stale. I won't even go into your part about Destiny having lore to grind....
The other day I went in to GameStop to trade in Destiny 2 and the guy at the counter already knew why. I laughed my ass off when he said, "I already know why dude"
So, two years later, and I am on the verge of quitting Destiny 2, the current season has drained me with the lack of content and what content there is simply sucks, on top of which the next season is supposed to add an update that makes older content weapons useless in new content, and essentially is going "Oh? You don't have Shadowkeep or whatever expansion is out now? Well fuck you because your gear is going to be too weak to do shit." I am sick of this bullshit, and I honestly see this as Bungie having been corrupted by working with Activision for so long. And mind you, by the time of this comment, the game has not only lost Activision's handle on things, but the game has also been F2P for about a year, and this shit is still going on.
@John Chaser I'd fight you on this, but I'm not gonna waste the time when you won't spend the time to make an actual argument for the game in its current state.
@John Chaser While the RNG reduction is nice as well as the raid incentive, it does not change the fact that sunsetting is a lazy attempt to balance the sandbox by pushing old sandbox items from the meta. Not to mention legendary weapons have some of the coolest designs I've seen, many of which will become useless in PVE content due to being older than Forsaken, an issue that I don't see being fixed unless the sunsetting idea gets dropped entirely, simply because transmogging gear is more of a traditional MMO feature and it would take away from the incentive for some players to go and earn those weapons rather than the skin.
As someone who has played since the PS4 D1 alpha. Give up on it man, it's really not worth it anymore. Hell for years I was in denial about Bungie my favorite game studio from the Halo games and was convinced they'd get it right and they still keep doing the same BS over and over again.
@@satorukuroshiro so you know all the stuff you spent money on in this game, like Osiris, Mars, base game if you got it before it was free, and grinding just to get to like 1050 light? Yeah all that shit is practically gone now.
Yeah my complaints about the game have to do with the gear system. I mean, I spent countless hours grinding weapon quests like thorn and luna’s just to have bungie “sunset” everything so I can’t use it efficiently anymore. Sure, I got over that after a while, but when beyond light came out any player can just... have it?! Like are you kidding me. What was the point of me playing the game if bungie would just give it to all the new light players who have never played the fckin game before?? This is honestly the dumbest thing to come out of beyond light in my opinion
You could add the Shivering Isles from ES IV: Oblivion to that list. Matter of fact you could add both dlc's from Oblivion. Both pieces of dlc truly felt like fully fleshed expansions rather then rescrapped bs. The storylines and new environments were pretty great too.
I went from a player who spent over 1500 hours on the first Destiny, to someone who'll be buying Monster Hunter in January with the money that I didn't spend on Destiny 2. Damn shame.
You got it, man! Chances are you'd have fun for a bit, but in the end it gets old pretty quick, you run outta things to do, and then you'd never touch it again. There are better games out there
The Act Man so true i was hyped to get destiny 2 since i skipped out on destiny 1, me and my buddy beat the game campaign together then ended up quiting because the lack of content at the endgame, now i spend my time on rainbow six seige and now recently pubg lol
LOOK AT YOU PSYCHOPATHS. You've created a campaign to end the possibility of Destiny 3 by actively supporting a community of hate against a company that has made a game where we can kill aliens with space magic. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. We don't need you standing in the way of a better Destiny 3. Get the fuck over yourselves and how many likes and subscribers you have and leave the Destiny community be. We actually enjoy playing crucible, regardless of your cult's opinions.
Activision was the problem act just took shots at them cause he used to love them and he felt betrayed and at the time of this video didn't know how much control Activision had over destiny 2
It seems like even 343 is on more of right track than bungie right now. At least 343 was able to admit their fault's recently with MCC (although a bit late), and apologized to the community. Bungie treats theirs as dumb apes. I will say I do have fun playing Destiny on occasion, and the lore to the game is great. Just it won't last, it'll be a game that could've been so much more.
Grimwol Look how Halo Wars 2 turned out, and how they've treated the community this past year. Much better than most companies on the brink of loosing their fanbase.
I think that this video explains why I cant find any good games anymore. It just blows my mind that I used to love almost every single game I ever bought. Now that everything is about money and not about the content of the game, I think I can finally see why its so hard to find a game that I can really fall in love with.
Late to the party but even some modern games can be great. Like DOOM for example . If halo CE is your thing check out the SPV3 version which overhauls the entire campaign.
I knew this game would be a shitshow from the beginning, played D1 for 3 years. Heard the direction Bungie was going with D2 and I simply knew... Destiny is dead. Another game in Activision's graveyard.
You thought the story was good? I thought it was written by an 8 year old with a space marines and a D&D manual. Stereotypical paladin, mage, rogue, chip on the shoulder exile, crazy detached lower being(robot). The paladin mage and rogue lose their powers and cry like pussies. Main character here to save the day. "We couldnt do it without you" I guess it wasnt terrible but damn, really? Also, the scenes with Ghaul and the speaker? 2 dudes wearing masks, with one monologing and the other speaking in vague phrases? Big twist: The bad guy wants acceptance. Thanks Disney.
The expansions for Destiny 2 are like new rule books like Xanathar's Guide to Everything (but at least that actually adds content and insights for new and old players), expensive and you're not quite sure what to do with it. I do have to admit that the story didn't impress me at all. I watched through it once and was like, "This isn't too bad." BUT! But then I watched it again with more attention to detail and it basically revolves around Ghaul, a character hyped up to be something, trying to redeem himself so that he can be accepted, only to just go back to being bad evil guy without a second thought. There wasn't any tension to it and it was just "Give me secrets," followed by, "The light is sacred and old and hur-de-dur-de-dur." Cayde-6 was used as comic relief because people loved him and was basically the only character with an actual character since the others are bare bones and struggle to really express themselves due to the poor writing and story design.
Your comments on the progression is spot on. Its actually so funny how they just dont realize theyre ruining their own game with this cosmetic bright engram bullshit. Same goes for any other game with this stupid lootbox system. If they want people to play this game longer and to keep us from fucking dropping it in the first month then they need to let us actually complete challenges for these cosemetics instead of fucking buying them. Jesus the amount of time id spend on this game completing challenges or quests for a dope ass sparrow or some cool armor is unfathomable. But yet, they just cant seem to figure out that theyre losing consumer interest by making it fucking random slot machine rewards instead of genuine rewards given to players with genuine dedication to this game. Honestly, wake the fuck up, no one is gonna buy what is literally a small fucking percentage chance with their money Bungie.
Well division 1.8 is really good. Got a lot of ppl back playing and it never took really anything from players it actually always gave more and more and at least monthly brings out some new challenges or content and rewards to do. Besides the regular daily and weekly rewards. Oh and warframe is an other really good example of giving players more and more everytime.
DJ Arthur Looby The Division I’ve played. It’s fun but has a questionable endgame. Warframe has serious issues though, a lot of people have started to pick up and play it and even suggest it to others. However, being someone who’s played that game for over 1500hours, I would not recommend it, the developers are worst than Bungie I’d say. Only because they have no idea what they’re doing with that game.
Remember in Halo 3 when you had to complete specific achievements to unlock armour? I spent hours upon hours in lone wolves trying to get into specific situations to get those damn armour sets, and it was so worth the effort. I felt proud wearing my ascetic armour on my elite because I felt I had earned it and I wanted to show it off. It is things like that that give longevity to a game. I miss it.
a good cosmetic system was in borderlands 2 for example. You were able to find changes to the looks of each main character (vault hunter) by either just finding them, completing missions or just doing something specific that triggers the unlocking of the cosmetic item... It wasn't built on greed, it was made so people who like cosmetics in games have some extra playtime by unlocking the cosmetics that aren't hidden behind a huge grind or a real money paywall. Or the older halos. You were able to unlock all parts of your armor without paying a single dollar extra, just by playing the game or achieving specific things. Ofc most of these were bound to multiplayer, but it was meant to make the multiplayer more enjoyable and for people to have something extra to collect, instead of making them pay more for stuff in a game that could be in there without a paywall in the first place.
People still don’t understand what’s happening... these are companies... with investors that have no idea what a game is. Devs are only good when they’re young and not bound by money. The only way to fix this is something that no one is willing to do. Boycott AAA titles. Like seriously. If everyone decided to switch to Nintendo or just go play indie games then the money goes away and the love for creating games comes back
Bro I've been trying to start a 48hr D2 BLACKOUT CHRISTMAS EVE AND DAY but everyone thinks it's a joke! Complaining is not taking action it's just complaining and if you still play or just stop it solves nothing!!!
Played destiny since day 1 and the game is…just a mess. 80% of the game is vaulted(basically deleted and may return” the lore got even more confusing with flying pyramids and darkness shit. You would have to be a og and read lore books to understand shit. If you just started your head will lose braincells trying to figure out what’s going on
You know all those ghost shells, sparrows and shaders were earned with gameplay in Destiny 1? It really pisses me off how they just sectioned off content that was previously earned through achievement and triumph and are now charging for them in loot boxes. Whatever vision they had for Destiny when they conceived it has been replaced with the eververse store
x4prilsF00Lx look, I don't know why you seem so upset here. I played destiny 1 for about 2 years and enjoyed it, I got destiny 2 and beat it within a month because there is no end game content. What end game content there is, is locked behind loot boxes. You can say they are harmless like all the other sheep and that they don't have anything to do with progression. But if the end game is to get all the best gear and look as good as possible, then locking part of it up and trumpeting behind another paywall just isn't fair. Sorry that you have to much disposable income that you spend it on loot boxes It also doesn't help that the company lied to players about how much exp they where earning to get a lootbox. Which means that they are trying to push people to buy it to make more money by making it seem that the next one will take forever to get.
+x$prilsF00Lx Micro transactions should never be in a premium experience where you pay up front, Especially when you are also charging for expansions like in Destiny's case. In Destiny 2 its all sectioned off into lootboxes, no more Faction ghost shells, unlimited shaders or cool looking sparrows you have to grind a RNG loot box and get lucky which can take hours to get one box or simply pay for more. Its all apart of the experience cosmetics or not it still affects you especially when Destiny is a game about showing off your achievements in the form of cosmetics (Much like what shadow said). The taken ghost shell? That meant you killed oryx and looked pretty fucking cool if you had it. War Cult sparrow? You were devoted to them and it showed your allegiance. People wanted to collect every shader in Destiny because then you have variety, earning themed shaders for specific activities, now? Get lucky, grind for hours or pay up. My point is that when you take something that was previously earned through gameplay and monetise it for cash, you are harming the experience just to make a couple more bucks it is undeniable if you played the first game that Eververse has affected a part of the game in a negative way. Eververse is Micro transaction gambling bullshit that tries to sells you something that was previously chucked in with the initial asking price as an extra thing to grind. It clearly ruins a part of the endgame that was previously pretty cool and completely free. Its like Halo 5 charging you for armour when it was previously earn able. Let ask you one question, why did bungie put these items in loot boxes when they were previously earned? Ill answer for you: To get more money and fill up the loot boxes with more stuff to lower your chances of getting something you want. It is a fact that bungie have lied to us about the XP gains, they only admitted to it when they were found out.
x4prilsF00Lsx TH-cams make shit in ad revenue if you pulled your head out of your ass and listened to the recent news about youtube in genereal, i would explain, but i don't have the time to push it though the wall that is your mind. As for the lore, a good portion of people care about the world they play in, especially if its an MMO game that people like you play for hours on end with less content then the number of brain cells you posses. Shaders in D1 is superior, and even in the end game of D2 everyone still looks to fucking same because 90 percent of the people color all there armor the same damn shader because it fucking matches. Hell its even the same weapons that kill you over and over in crucible because most people use what has the fastest time to kill. Also the "cosmetic enchantments" are in a fucking loot box. Im not sure if you can wrap your mind around it because given your last few arguments it only seems like you can insult people while being a corporate mouth piece, but ill make it simple for you. You press a button, and you roll the dice for a chance at getting the big payout, whether that is the jackpot on a slot machine, or that new exotic ghost shell that should have been in the base game where people can complete a goal and get the item, not grinding for hours to keep rolling the dice to get it. D1 at the very least had a small amount of content locked behind eververse, and the only reason they let you play to get the items is so that people wouldn't have threw the game out the window once they realized that all the stuff was behind another paywall. The Xp gains made a big deal because its another corpation lying to our faces, then backpedalling as fast as they can to make everyone forget, and do stupid shit like defend there game riddled with the same issues as the first year of D1. When a game about the fucking grind you limit the grind then you are hurting the player, they dont want to play more because at a certain point they will put the controller down, stop farming for a lootbox and do something else. People want what they fucking pay for. If people pay money for a game, and they dont like it, they can bitch about it all they want because they bought the fucking game same as everyone else. There is no end game grind other then loot boxes that hold the cosmetics that should be in the base game. If they removed the option to buy the loot boxes in the first place, but had them there, it wouldnt be an issue because they couldnt try and ring 14 year old idiots with daddy's credit card dry. The whole "AAA" industry is a shit show of greed and customer disrespect. Half of your arguments are pig headed at best and troll at worst. You clearly love D2 with a fucking passion and will take Bungie's dick up your ass far longer then most people will. So how about you get back to grinding your "free" cosmetics and make your characters look ugly as shit by shading each armor and weapon separately while you sit on your moms house, without a job or anything to support yourself, living like the entitled parasite that you are while claiming that other hard working people that wanted a game to surpass the original dont have the right.
Damn dude..mad respect to you bro. When a game critic and reviewer can criticise themselves about something they previously said, that doesn't add up or isn't really true. You know they're the real deal and not some POS sellout. You are awesone mah dude. Glad I'm subscribed.
If it weren't for all you brilliant people in the comments, I'd have probably not made this video and stood by everything I said. You guys keep me in check and I appreciate that
joey8404 how did he suck his own dick. He literally said I was wrong in my first review and then gave a few prefaces before starting what he was saying. This is the first vid I have seen of this guy but if that's "sucking your own dick" then I have seen about 95% of TH-cam fuck themselves hard...get a life man
this is why i'll always respect the monster hunter series, they release free DLC every single month for a year, actually care about their game and their playerbase.
Horseradish The head of development pretty much just said fuck off to microtransactions. I was extremely happy when that I heard about that, such a great game and so hyped for World.
@@seraphofthursday maybe the whole vaulting thing, all the content from the first 2 years of D2 it’s going away, content people paid for is going away, that’s beyond unacceptable
You know a developer has hit rock bottom when they go from being one of your absolute favourites to something you would even cross the road to piss on if it was on fire.
rip. Except some indie games and the occasional actually good, non-microtransaction-infested game (like Titanfall 2). jerkinmajer Nintendo is a shining beacon in the darkness.
Even with all these greedy companies, I still played a lot of great games this year. I don’t agree with the notion that gaming is dead or there are only good Indy games.
this comment should adress my biggest pros and cons with this game. Pros: 1. Overall it is a great shooter. graphics, sound, gunplay is the best you can probably find and the only thing that holds the game up. 1.Gunplay and playing with friends is so much fun that it can keep you playing for maybe 10.000 hours plus. 1. English Voice acting for the most part is good. Cons: 1. The biggest and worst flaw of this game: It is pay 2 play, and everyone who tells you otherwise is lying. First i paid 30 bucks (bought it only half a year ago so its cheaper), then bought curse of osiris and warmind for 20, then forsaken for another 20 and then the annual pass for 35. Makes 105 € for the complete game. if i had it bought on release it would be: 60 for base game 20 for warmind another 20 for osiris then idk 30 for forsaken at least and the annual pass for 35 That makes it 165 bucks for complete game. this is an atrocious number and NO GAME in the whole wide world is worth this amount of money. The game is pay2play because with base game you can only reach level 20, with dlcs at least 50 which equals 500 power and only with that and the annual pass you can get to about 650 power. The campaing is pretty bad, both at mission design and story, same goes for warmind. osiris is a bit better. forsaken is the best of the storys but at mission design also not very good. overall the whole game is very monotonous. The Only thing that SAVES THIS GAME is the gunplay and the loot. the gunplay is perfect and feels just great and by playing you constantly get better gear and can make your character stronger. If the game didnt have good gunplay or the grindy loot it would be a complete failure. If i should rank this game i would go for a 6/10 at least, but judging the bad story, monotonous mission design and atrocious money grabbing shit in the game it would be 4/10 at best. ALSO the game didnt really improve on the first game that i played for over 300 hours on ps3 with friends. We still have NO SPACE COMBAT. This is a Sci-Fi game set in the future with big spaceships and traveling across the whole solar system, why no space combat. it is the thing this game needs. WHY SO FEW TANK MISSIONS. In the campain we only had 2 which were really cool and in the multiplayer i had ONCE the random option to use a tank in a strike and never saw something like that again. since destiny 1 i dont have friends left who play destiny 2 so i cant play raids. why no matchmaking for raids. i saw playthroughs and streams of them and the bullshit excuse from bungie saying:" the raids are too hard for random players" is bullshit. so i dont even have the option to play these parts of the game but i payed for it. wow. IF you make a Destiny 3 and i know you will, bungie, then fucking be more creative. you have this whole universe which has SO MUCH POTENTIAL. And you are the ones who made the fucking HALO games. And i swear if Activision makes this pay2play shit again in the next game i will fucking boycott this shit
I would really LOVE to see you revisit this in light of Bungie removing access to PAID content and level locking weapons with the release of Beyond Light.
Outside of forsaken all year one content got made free, but that doesnt diminish the fact people paid for it and didnt really get anything in turn for having done so when said content went free
I remember when Destiny 2 came out on Wednesday and two days later, I had the money to get Destiny 2. So I went to a mall nearby and I went to a retro store that sells retro Games, Records, Comics, Etc. and the store had a copy of Super Castlevania IV that cost around $45 dollars and I was tempted to get it (Cause I have a SNES at home). So I had a choice to get Destiny 2 or Waste my money on a game that came out 26 years ago for the SNES? Good thing I choose the latter and to this day, I’ve never bought Destiny 2!!!
+GAMER3Productions That's amazing! I hope you are excited for Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night & the prequel-ish game Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon! Gonna be fantastic games.
Bungie locking players out of content they had access to before is not news to me. This exact same thing happened in Destiny 1 when TTK came out, but fans just brushed those complaints aside, PURPOSEFULLY playing ignorant and just said "Well you gotta keep up with the expansions coming out!" I remember they locked off the Nightfall, even if it was a vanilla mission. I complained about this in the forums, and people mocked me saying "they shouldn't give year 2 loot to people who didn't buy the expansion." I wasn't asking for year 2 loot, I was asking for the same rewards I had gotten in year 1. But no, people sat there and criticized my legitimate complaints by playing ignorant to the real issues.
True, but now it happened afrer community has been livid and out for blood already, the PC players have not yet felt this "generosity", and in general the fact that they had the stupidity to do it again all came together to produce an explosive effect. Together with general reaction to this update
Samurai... Didn't mean to imply either femenininity or masculinity for Actvision. Was just pointing out that they (Bungie) doomed themselves when they joined the Actvision "family". I would be shocked to see anything worthwhile come out of the studio again. Hope I'm wrong but I tend to doubt it.
Samurai...You have either done a ton of research or have been following the situation for some time. I did not research in depth (as you have) but do know from experience what inevitibly and inexorably happens when the suits get involved with creative, artistic or innovative companies. The spark that made the company special never survives. A shame really. Thank you for the abundance of background.
Destiny 2: Curse of Osyris. -20$ "expansion" -reskined enemies -1 and a half hour long story addition. -Several maps -locked content -Additions to mxts -2? Mediocre strikes -weapons (4 were in the og destiny) Starwars battlefront 2: The last jedi/ Resurrection. -FREE "expansion" -reskined enemies -1 and a half hour long story. addition. -1 ground map, 1 space map -2 new vehicles 2 slightly altered vehicles - 2 new hero's -no addition to mtxs (for now) -new daily/weekly challanges
Tbh for me destiny 1 was fun (with friends) destiny 2 is just a simple copy and paste with the same content... but they somehow did it so it barely runs on console, it’s extremely repetitive and boring... and all the loot are just reskins
yup I went into D1 with every single dollar I had. they got all of my money......ALL of it. bought the game when it came out. then bought dark below. next was house of wolves. then because you got some other stuff with buying the expansion pass i bought it even tho I already had the 2 dlcs. yes I was crazy...still kinda am but whatevs. then they had a sale of the gold edition or something of the game that gave you the base game and the expansion pass and some other useless shinny shit that I didn't have but wanted so bad because other mutha fuckers had it. yup you heard right I bought everything that I already had just to get a ship and a ghost. all of this was taking place on old gen btw. then the taken king came out and I bought it on old gen and some expansion to the expansion stuff because well why not? the stuff was shinny and cool I couldn't control myself. then rise of iron arrives but wait for me to play rise of iron I had to buy a current gen console. no big deal here you go here's $400 of my dollars. so I buy the base game again for ps4 and what do you know the expansion to the expansion stuff that I bought on old gen doesn't carry over to new gen. at this point I'm starting to smell the shit that's being handed to me. but whatever I buy rise of iron and it's the biggest disappointment out of all the expansions that I've bought. a long time ago destiny was streaming on Twitch the release of some new content for the game and the subject of matchmaking in the raids was brought up to a spokesperson. sorry but I can't remember the name of the individual who responded to the question but let me tell you it was not good....at all. that person responded by saying we are not here to help you make friends. at that point I should have stood up and walked away from the game. basically we needed to go out on our own and find people to do the raids with. which is fine by me but if you are someone looking to make whatever business you have grow and expand why wouldn't you do it? it's simple just have the option to go into the raid with your friends or select matchmaking to find people for you. probably should have left but my girlfriend at the time was playing it and a bunch of mine and her friends were playing it blah blah blah. but I found myself wanting to ask the guy, have you ever played a video game in your life? do you understand how marketing works? if he wanted I could have drawn out a chart of how "helping" one person make a friend could trickle down and lead into other people buying the game just because they are a family member or a friend. and if this is done for thousands of people and they get their friends or family to buy the game and so forth and so on......you know what whatever it doesn't matter. you can lead a donkey to water but you can't make him drink it. HEE-HAW! HEE -HAW!
I bought y1 too, with some expansion passes. After that I could only buy new expansions if i bought the ENTIRE game + previous expansions again. I stopped playing a week into y2 because bungie decided to cut the content I was still progressing into. Couldn't even go into bountie runs anymore, there were lvl x enemies everywhere!
Sigh, I remember a simpler time when Destiny Came out and me and a friend played the hell out of it up until the taken King. So happy I didn’t continue that grind fest of a game.
thanks for the vid act man. im glad that so many people are trying to get bungie and activision to pull their heads out of their asses, and if not that, then to warn away any who would be swindled by their current practices. also, awesome banjo tooie music reference at 10 minutes:]
I got the expansion because my friends - who I had enjoyed playing the base game with, have got it, even though it came out only 1 month after the release of the base game on PC, which pissed me off immensely. The campaign of the expansion takes about 60 minutes to complete, and contains a mission which is almost identical to a strike - which in turn was ripped straight from the campaign. Almost all the other missions take place in existing areas with little to no modification, and the missions which don't are all extremely bland and repetitive. The strikes added with the expansion are carbon copies of the campaign missions, with the story of one literally being: "the Vex have undone everything you did in the mission, so do it again". The new space the smallest by far, and only has a single public event, and potentially its best feature: the "Infinite Forest" can't even be accessed unless as part of a mission. I'm very disappointed and seriously thinking of refunding my purchase on both the expansion and the game.
There are pretty strong consumer laws where I live, and since they made some things from the base game only playable with the expansion I could easily get a refund for false advertising.
This rings even truer nowadays as these new "seasons" take away the old content and replace it with shitty new stuff. And the new content now is also very miniscule because now bungie has not enough manpower to support this type of game. And now destinys microtransactions have become worse as now only bright engrams come from the season pass instead of leveling, so new cosmetics are a rarity. Destiny has shat the bed and it shows
This is why games like warframe need more attention and popularity to show people what real developers look like and how a great game should be handled
No amount of money is ever enough for these greedy SOB's. These are the type of people that would rob their own grandmother for an extra 5 cents, and they will gladly run a company into the ground to make an extra $5 this quarter so they can get their golden parachute and make it the next guy's problem. Oh, and BC didn't add 20 levels to WOW - it added 10. All of the expansions added 10 except for Cata and MOP which added 5.
I wanted to so badly love this game. I had enjoyed the first destiny, even without the dlc, so I was really excited for destiny 2. When I finally got it, I was blinded by fan boyism. After a while, I finally gave into the fact that this was not a good game
Three years now from that video, and even though I started playing Destiny 2 since mid November, I find it very entertaining.. If I understand correctly, both the curse of Osiris and the Warmind DLCs are now free as well as the game. Forsaken and Shadowkeep are still monetized, but oh well... But I don't know.. I played like 300 hrs so far, and the game still manages to give me that joy I want.
I have no words. You're probably the only youtuber that I respect. In this video you gave great points. An easy way to understand what was wrong with the videogame. You knew how to stay serious and still stay entertaining. Amazing video.
Check out Skill Ups review if you want to hear a bungie fan completely break emotionally in a serious and entertaining fashion. These are probably the 2 best reviews of this game Ive seen.
"We payed for the game, it is ours. You can't take things away from that game that we purchased" Please make a video about Beyond Light. They literally took away content we paid for in exchange for nothing.
Only if people keep buying and supporting the wrong games. The AAA side of gaming though is a fucking joke, it has turned into nothing more than a concept of “who can make the most money off their games” as opposed to “who can make the most creative and innovative games”.
WyzieSolo Bethesda FTW! I enjoyed all of the games I bought from them, currently playing Dishonored 2 here going full stealth, and it's amazing! Kudos to Bethesda team!
Yes for sheeople chumps who dont know how to choose good games, theres more badgames then ever and its easier to blindly fall in the pit of shit games . If you make wise choices then gaming is litterally better then ever... you are half right from the wrong side.
Just to be clear, I was wrong about Destiny 2 signaling the return of Bungie's glory days. I was wrong about many other things and I want to clear them up.
The Act Man you should try Warframe, it’s like a better destiny, AND it’s a free to play (not pay to win) with free dlc
You may be wrong about bungie’s returning glory days, but you were right about everything else. The game still is an improvement.
Don't blame Bungie Blame Activision for Pressuring Bungie into doing this!!
You're a class act...man.
The Act Man wrrrrrronnnnnggggggggg
I remember when Destiny was supposed to be this generation's Halo.
God knows Halo isn’t this generation’s Halo.
@@Riverfilly153 u mean 4 and 5😭😭😭😂😂😂
I remember when Destiny was supposed to have a 10 year plan and be the same game all along with expansions to the world.
Yeah and it’s just basically a watered down version of the halo.
@@kolowatttz5321 halo 4's story was awesome. Halo 5's multiplayer was great. Let's hop Infinite will have Halo 4's level of story and 5's level of multiplayer experience.
When noble 6 died he took bungie with him
Damn, that isn't that the truth
Yup
Man I love Reach, but damn straight is that dark
And like ... A dozen elites , good times
This is so fucking true wow
"Listen Bungie, you can't take things that we bought away from us"
It's funny to watch this 3 years later after they've literally made the original game and first DLCs unplayable
I got back into the game just a couple weeks ago, and i was actually kinda sad i couldnt play through the red war again. Its kind of insane to see how different the game is is 4 years later
Bungie doesn't like their players hphmmmmm sounds like another company I know of isn't that right pixonic
Ngl, at the time i was hyped when i heard that bungie left Activision, thought that the game could finally be what it should be
But it turns out the game got even worse after parting with activision, they just flipped the fattest bird to his playerbase:
-Deleting old (Paid) content from the game
-Mass sunsetting, making your old, hard earned gear obsolete
-Red War campaign gone, now new players can't even know why the fuck they are fighting nor what happened before New Light
-Light Level is a blatant powercreep its a fucking joke
It's honestly more scummy than ea was in 2017, at least then you
Got a full game, even with loot boxes
The best part is to find people still defending that, I can defend shit, but not when that shit doesn’t treat me good, Destiny is an abusive lover that it’s not worth your pain at all
Act Man: *shows CD PROJEKT RED as the shining beacon of hope*
THAT AGED WELL
👆nice
I was about to type the same comment
bad... it aged bad
@@eaglekiller888dragon2 bro he said "THAT AGED WELL" sarcastically
@@eaglekiller888dragon2 damn the joke flied right over your head huh
Told you 😏
I Hate Everything IHE Was right all along....
Everyone foretold the travesty that is destiny 2......
We all know you'll be back for Year 2, though I doubt it will be enough to change your opinion.
So where's the "I hate destiny 2" video?
Look it up.
Hhhmmm should I buy an expansion for The Witcher 3 that gives me at least 40 hours of gameplay that costs $20 or an expansion for Destiny 2 that gives me 90 minutes that also costs $20??? HHHHMMMMMM
Destiny 2 DUH
destiny 2 DLC was $20 after a sale.. was originally $40 wasn't it?
Decisions are hard.
In Osiris, i spent 28 hrs in the raid alone.
Decisions decisions.
14:30 "They've spent so much time expanding the cosmetic microtransaction content that they've left the actual content out to dry" That is so spot on and accurate dude. D2's endgame is spendgame. Bungie sacrificed their core Destiny 1 fans completely with D2 in a desperate attempt to attract a more casual audience who is easier to prey upon with microtransaction nonsense. Thanks for including my clip. Warframe is where I spend my time now, I recommend trying it out dude, its really good
BBKDRAGOON
While Warframe is making his own stairway to heaven, Destiny jumped into the deepest valley because he saw some money falling into it.
Big fan BTW
Endgame is spendgame. that's fucking brilliant! Yeah you had a great video on Curse of Osiris!
Probably shouldn't miss the fact that D1 started the whole microtransaction BS. Other than that, sure.
I agree,after playing a few hours I felt like spending a little money towards this team because they put way more effort into their game.
We converted BBK and now Warframe is coming for you Tenno (Act Man).
“Bungie isn’t brave, they have merely forgotten the fear of bankruptcy.”
when bungie used to be good but now it's trash
Act man: “allow me to reacquaint you”
The storytelling has improved a lot, however the gameplay and ideas generally suck, hope they could get even greater ideas or get many developers to help them
@@taleseylad1249 So trash that the team behind Halo joined 343 to make Halo infinite
@@thundageon5962 Turns out Infinite's campaign was hot garbage but at least the mp was pretty good, sucks that pretty much everything related to the multiplayer is garbage tho.
the truth is only 5% of the original Bungie team still works there....this is NOT the glory days Bungie, and we should stop hoping or believing that they will return to that type of quality
Bodie B fuck Activision am I right?
The worst is that half of the original team was FIRED by Bungie ! Joseph Staten and Marty were FIRED !
@@armandjerome3048 Joe left. Marty was fired
@@ylissotato Bungee left Activision allready and has the rights on Destiny
@@aja-1099 He left because they scrapped his entire script for Destiny lol.
...This new Bungie is legitimately not the same Bungie that made Halo. Like, literally. Marty isn't there anymore, neither is the story director of the old Halo. Most likely, the rest of the behind the scene team from 10 years ago has disbanded as well... "Bungie" is simply another developer now. Like when a new CEO comes in and replaces the old employees in a company. Only the name bares resemblance to the former company.
The Divine Rod and people still want bungie back to halo.. Smh
Yeah no, 343 is much much better right now
I just want 343 to bring back the people that made Bungie great. On that topic, in all of this, Microsoft is looking more and more like the best company out there to publish with
Isaiah’s Bias Then again, this isnt really bungie's fault, its Activisions. They have been taking all the great companies we've seen such as Bungie and corrupting them unwillingly with their greed, just as they did with Blizzard when they turned WoW into a blazing pile of shit with low quality expansions and constant additions afterwards. Though the unfortunate part is that no one has formaly addresed them as the problem, which is what truly gives these actually great companies such a shit image.
but isnt signing with activision what bungie wanted. i remember reading/watching something about that awhile ago
Stalin’s 5 year plans were better than Bungie’s 10 year plan
Chuck Father of Rock spicy my dude
oof
Shots fired
And Anthem’s
Chuck Father of Rock he did it in 3 years after all
"you can make money without being a piece of shit".....Shows CD project red......Well, this aged terribly
*cough* cyberpunk *cough*
lol
What a shame.. -J C Denton
Gone but not forgotten
We can only hope after this heresy cdpr will rise again .
Destiny 2: Curse of Recycled Content
Destiny 2: Purse of Recycled Content
Destiny 2: Curse of Eververse
Destiny 2: Fuckitty Fuck of Fuckin’ Sucks
+Abyss Spectre Luckily? HOPEFULLY it will be your last. I have about 4000 hours in destiny 1. Great game. Destiny 2? not so much.
21 Savage it wasn't even recycled content people wanted
So this is how the elites felt when the Prophets betrayed them.
Rest in piss, Bungie. They were dead as soon as they kicked Marty out.
Star Moko and Joseph Staten, the legendary writer of bungie
Damn, I never thought I would relate to Sangheili so much
They died long before that. Marty was just trying to resurrect a corpse. Poor guy.
My god... i can't believe i didn't see that. Now i know how rhe Arbiter felt. My favorite character ironically. I guess everyone who still loves this game are the Brutes...
Star Moko lol
That Cartman reaction was mine to your first video
"You can make money without being a piece of shit!"
9:00
RIP CDPR.
I have hope this will be lesson for them and they make a game what shut our mouth ( please ? ) .
Once is an anomaly, twice is a coincidence and third is a statistic. Well bungie wants to define fourth and beyond with the franchise I suppose. The main problem is people keep buying it, stop buying and better business practices will be in place.
This the truth right here
Or it’s just all intentional from the get go?
Poof, I've lost all interest in this game.
Time to change my nickname.
I only paid for the damn pass to keep playing with friends because honestly I wasn't all that enthused about it because I knew it was going to disappoint and it did.
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
This comment is gold, seriously under rated because its so true. RIP HEATH LEDGER :(
Evan kutska exactly what happened
One of my favorite movie quotes and fits the situation perfectly. I just hope companies like From Software and CDPR don't "Fall from grace".
Well said man. Except another=enough. Sorry had to be that guy.
@@DarthKato F
Putting CDPR on that high-horse didn't age well...
Cdpr are still the best triple A company by a long shot sure they fucked up but they handled it well and fixing they game
@@jacobpicasso4016 😂 ok
Fuck cdpr lol, they lied about they're whole game
@@jacobpicasso4016 stop the cap
@@jacobpicasso4016 my left nutsack is a better triple aaa game company
My ancestors are smiling down at me Imperial, can you say the same?
Senpai is it you?
Darkside Royalty Lore you a dark elf lover?
Death to the Stormcloaks!
Puhpa?!
Senpai is here. ✨
It's people like you who have saved me from buying games like Destiny and Battlefront.
I love people who judge things when they never played the game. Go try destiny my dude, it’s free now, I bet you have a good time. Once you are done come back to this comment and tell me how you feel then.
Still not my preference.
Alex Massie that’s all good hahaha
Abyss_Gaming uh, yeah. I want to know what I get before I buy it.
Cade Norris itsssss freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee XD
And people will keep buying them. Never buy Activision. Never buy EA.
But mass effect and dragon age
But anthem
But Blizzard games
Ryelee Mcnair mass effect andromeda is bad
But battlefield
"We payed for the game it is ours, you can not take away something that we payed for"
*Laguhs in beyond light removing half of the game*
Thank god they did that before I went all in
Yah I got the game and like 2 weeks later it was all gone. waste.
I quit the moment they announced “sunsetting weapons and armor” fuckin “oh ha ha you payed money for these?? Well we’re gonna remove them and you can buy the NEW versions of these weapons! You did the grind for the Repulse smg and the Mountain Top launcher?? Too bad! All that is gone!!”
This comment is aging like fine wine and I hate it
@@maplesyrup6529 At least sunsetting is gone now but that was such a bs move and another moment of stupidity by these guys.
Hate to say it, but even 343i is looking pretty good compared to the new bungie... these are dark times, young ones. Dark times...
I agree
My Dad Calls Me Dirt Grub McAllister I agree too
343 is pretty good around now after all the mistakes
Victorian despite my comment, I'm pretty happy with 343i at the moment but the bad stuff sticks in our mind better.
What are you talking about? 343i ARE HORRIBLE!
The sad truth is that the people who made Halo at Bungie are gone. Basically the current team at Bungie is completely different that the crew that made Bungie's classic games. I saw that shift happening around Destiny 1 and haven't supported Bungie games since. Their soul is totally gone.
Uh, party like tomorrow is my funeral
Gotta stop mixing alcohol and pharmaceuticals
Man the unusual is the fucking usual
Man my life is beautiful and my girls are mutual
Okay bitch it’s Weezer and it’s Weezy
Upside down MTV
Please don’t shoot me down because I’m an endangered species
It’s the days of our lives, but my night just started
I pray the killer doesn’t take the life of the party
MasterHumus No, neither. Most Bungie higher-ups who made Halo have left.
MasterHumus or bungie got greedy and lazy. Tired of all you blaming someone else
Most of the people who made halo great stayed to make 343 industries and keep making halo games
Hmm...
Halo 4 - Good story, shitty multiplayer with pointless Spartan Ops
Halo 5 - Shitty story, average multiplayer with microtransactions
Halo: Spartan Assault - Cash grab
Halo Wars 2 - RTS with low support and was basically made to advance 343i's convoluted story
I respectfully disagree with you. I believe it's time to stop making excuses, much like what MasterHumus said. Bungie's workforce, ex-employee or no, don't seem to have any problem with where Halo or Destiny are going.
Halo 2 legendary no deaths yesterday and now this? I didn't know it was christmas already!
Doin it just for you bby
Felix Lindström are you a *TRAP*?
The Act Man you should do halo 3 odst all skulls on legendary, now thats a real challenge.
"You can't take away things we have already payed for"
Oh boy did this age well.
what happened?
@@cz.gazz. Bungie is "vaulting" the whole base campaign and the first two expansions, making them unavailable for everyone, even those who bought them.
Marcus Hägglund wow unbelievable
@@marcushagglund7502 They are doing this because the game has become too large to balance/fix if bugs appear.
i would recommend reading this article and this video about the topic.
www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/08/26/aztecross-reveals-the-actual-reason-destiny-2s-content-vault-exists/#46e9854c3da1
th-cam.com/video/eNQRMwVbk_g/w-d-xo.html
Like a fine wine made of shit, they'll be vaulting Forsaken now, which was by far the best expansion the game ever had.
Bungie's new motto: REDUCE REUSE RECYCLE
penguin dude So accurate it's like satin chocolate to my listen-holes.
penguin dude nice one
How is this not pinned
You forgot and make the players pay for it.
Wow man. It takes some balls to admit you're wrong. Especially on the Internet. I have a new level of respect for you. Good on you.
I did what needed to be done
I thank you for that. You just earned a new sub. :)
Darth Erudius i hate everything is great too
Darth Erudius I mean, to be fair... not really. Especially when literally every other person on TH-cam... well in the world is saying the exact same thing. Everyone’s changing their opinion.
hardfugoo1 The fact that he thought it was awesome in the first place kinda killed some of his credibility
I love that CDPR were some beacon of hope in this review. How times have changed lol.
"They played us like a damn fiddle"
and you and many others where fools enough to get played twice
YesteryearsGamer Umm WoW is Blizzard dude..
YesteryearsGamer Blizzard isnt owned by anyone. Theyre partnered with Activision to support Destiny 2 and possibly future Activision titles. WoW has been out forever and Activision-Blizzard has only been a partnership for less than 6 months so saying WoW is a product of* Activision is bullshit
Y'all were bamboozled! XD
Like a rubiks cube
Destiny 2 oh I mean destiny 0.5
Dracula-KSA-09 #1 which is saying something because destiny 1 was pretty bad
1.5
Very true, imo it is less than Destiny 1
I think you mean Destiny -2
CalasTyphon destiny 2 is still worse
The worst is when people defend Bungie saying the developers care and work hard. How do they care when they copy paste every single enemy, animation, and interaction. How is that working hard?
BldgWha7 the devs are merely pawns bound by money, hate on the investors not the devs
This is what I said to people before the game came out. I couldn’t even understand why they were so hyped for a game that looked exactly like the previous one. I get the same excuse every time “it’s a sequel it’s supposed to be the same” but it’s different. EVERY LITERAL thing is the same, I don’t think anyone would want to buy a game that’s basically a DLC. The only thing new they added was border in the HUD display around blocks
Kevin Sosa why I didn't buy it haha
Maybe I just hang out with smart people but I've literally never met a person blind enough to defend Bungie. Then again, this video got over 1,300 dislikes so someone's still riding that stupid train, mouth open, cross-eyed with a huge grin on their face, wondering where their money went.
Its cuz they are bungie fanbous but they dont realise that the nest of bungie "the old bungie" has been fired. In 2014 because they didnt give them do anything in destiny1 and some leaved in 2010 befor halo4 came out. I like the old bungie who did halo 3 but the new ones are shit. They still have some of the older bungie era devloppers but the new ones suck. Fuck you activision.
"Is this good for the player?"
"Train go boom."
"I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain."
God help us all
Train go boom is atleast is respectable
"I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain" that line makes me lose brain cells
It's funny how they left Microsoft and Halo to create something new and fresh, but then they join a shitty group like Activision and make games that are JUST as bad as Halo 5's plot
Zono lol the thing is halo 5 isn't bad at all. Not like the pile of shit that the Destiny franchise is................
honestly, this is worse than halo 5. which is embarrassing
Keaton Django LMAO except for that halo 5 isn't even bad...............
Jesus Perez I agree. I love halo 5. My point was halo 5 isn't better than the halo bungie made. And bungie just made two games that are worse.
Halo 4*
I defended Destiny for the first 3 years. Now... There's no way I can defend it. Bungie dug themselves into a hole that they will unlikely be able to recover from anytime soon. It really is a crap game. I too was wrong.
Brave Paragon destiny 1 was so much better, at least after year 1 it was just much more enjoyable and fun!
343 Industry may have butchered Halo but thank God they did, I can't imagine Halo being in the hands of this new Bungie.
I also defended destiny like a marine. That is OVER!
John, that's right, this NEW bungie that's been around for the last 4 years. The same shits who kicked out a founder and tried to strip him of his rights which was highly ill legal. The same company whose original members had left. And it was huge back then, nobody could miss it. Yet people forgot about everything when Destiny 2 started its marketing campaign.
You was WRRRRROONGGGGG!!!
“Bungie spoon feeds them scraps, for a price.”- The Act Man
The fact he put CD projekt red... oh how the times have changed
Oh man when I saw that I was like "uh oh".
@@shinoburaiu lol during that time there was peace in the land
@@Robbsta77 I know right?
When WOW releases an expansion, it introduces new races/classes to choose from. When Bungie releases a $60 SEQUEL they don't even give us new sub-classes I mean wtf man.
Subclasses are to much lets be honest you already got 9 choices why would we need more?
wow expansions are pretty trash also, don't get why people feel the need to praise that shit
Because people already played this game, PLUS the previous, with the exact same 3 main classes. The sub classes already barely change your play style, but at the very least more of that should have been the minimum for a fully priced sequel. It's not that 9 sub classes are too many, it's that there are STILL only 3 main classes across 5 years of Destiny 1 and 2
@@XhizorBE shadowkeep and forsaken were pretty good in my opinion
@@Djqkiller lmao 9 choices... More like 4 or 5 depending on which content you are doing. Let's face it. Destiny is super stagnated atm because they're barely adding in any player choice. I won't buy the new 'expansion because they fucked the darkness subclasses up
I was wrong about destiny 2
Me - you’re goddamn right
Heisenberg detected
Don't be that guy. It takes a good person too admit he messed up
"hey, they already payed 50 dollars for the game, let's make them pay the same price for a "Expansion" that offers 10x less content then the base game!"
personal note: wtf is wrong with developers these days?
ImLegitBoiii *E X P A N S I O N*
true
Greed sometimes I wish microtranections didn't exist.
Personally the industry is going into a depression.
the industry is mutch worse now, a few years ago they where good, but now they only want your wallet, anyways you are right on that part.
Publishers use fan's love and their naive nature and kill them with their own love. They are naive anf love a franchise and squeeze as much as they can from the fanbase. Sadly that is how it works and fans refuse to let it go, fans need self respect and not buy stuff. They need to have standards and not get abused by the devs.
Goodbye Bungie. You will be deeply missed. But, I still love you for your legacy... Activision...
you can take our Bungie. But you’ll never take...
OUR HALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Halo was taken from Bungie ;-;
@@kermkermokay so?
Your Lord Kermit not really 343 is mostly bungee employees 343 is more bungee then bungee is now.
Hopefully with halo infinite will be good
you got that right
Old Liquid game isn’t even or. We don’t have any gameplay even. Let’s hold our judgement
The Team Fortress 2 updates add more to the game than these expansions... but *F O R F R E E*
Yeah but we havent had one in ages
Matthew2504 the last TF2 update was in march, that's not that long
lol shut the fuck up, tired of hearing this shit
Same with Warframe, if not more
Will G Warframe is too OP of an example
Even though I don't actually play it
Bungie fired all of the halo devs, and became a cash grab for destiny.
Ethan Harris my thoughts exactly
It's because Activision owns them now probably. They are doing the same thing at Blizzard. Limiting creativity in favor of a surefire hook with little substance beyond good basic controls and gameplay.
Spumoon That's exactly right. That's why I almost hope that Blizzard will never release a Warcraft 4 or Starcraft 3.
Destiny is just a heavily modified version of halo's game engine. Now Destiny 2, its the absolute same thing as destiny 1 with a slightly modified UI and bull shit cash grab
Blizzard is still completely seperate, and has enough corporate power and money to sustain on its own without activision attatched to it, activision has nothing to do with their decisions.
8:55 this didn’t age well after cyberpunk...
Yeah especially the fact that cdpr bent the knee to China.
@Jacob Nichols I have no clue that’s just what I heard from a TH-cam video a while ago.
@@wizardmaster7475 then why bother say it?
@@wizardmaster7475
"I heard it from a TH-cam video" aaaaand now your comments are laughable. Why the fuck would you say that as a fact if your backup was "I just heard it from someone?" 😂
Our boys are free.
Bungie has left Activision
This was a power move on Bungie's part. Everyone is going to think since Activision isn't involved anymore we'll get a good game without a bunch of bullshit expansions and predatory microtransactions. Not gonna happen. They did the same thing TWICE and they won't hesitate to do it again. Anything for a quick buck.
Oh yeah
@@arbiter- "g-g-guys! the crappy DLCs arent on bungies part, t-they were already planned out when activision wanted them! this isnt their fault!"
-a million forum posts
Just come to Warframe. It's better, free, and the devs love their players (love their losers)
@Old Liquid Overloaded? Meaning it has more content to explore. Destiny ends when the story ends. People say that the end game is where destiny shines but its just a small selection of shit done poorly. Raids for example. They're more of a minigame/puzzle, after someone finds out how to do it and uploads the footage. Everyone copies.
To your 'and GUNS!' comment. The guns in destiny all feel simple, there's nothing special about picking up a weapon just because it has a higher number/level attached, there's barely any modding/customising and compaired to Warframes weapons, they're very stale.
I won't even go into your part about Destiny having lore to grind....
The other day I went in to GameStop to trade in Destiny 2 and the guy at the counter already knew why. I laughed my ass off when he said, "I already know why dude"
You hit the nail on the head with this. Couldn’t agree with you more, dude. Thanks for putting this out there, hopefully they see this.
Even if they don't, good work and great video.
Even if they see it nothing will change. Fuck em, I hope they crash and burn
I suggest that anyone here check Bdobbinftw videos on destiny 2 he's entertaining
So, two years later, and I am on the verge of quitting Destiny 2, the current season has drained me with the lack of content and what content there is simply sucks, on top of which the next season is supposed to add an update that makes older content weapons useless in new content, and essentially is going "Oh? You don't have Shadowkeep or whatever expansion is out now? Well fuck you because your gear is going to be too weak to do shit." I am sick of this bullshit, and I honestly see this as Bungie having been corrupted by working with Activision for so long. And mind you, by the time of this comment, the game has not only lost Activision's handle on things, but the game has also been F2P for about a year, and this shit is still going on.
@John Chaser I'd fight you on this, but I'm not gonna waste the time when you won't spend the time to make an actual argument for the game in its current state.
@John Chaser While the RNG reduction is nice as well as the raid incentive, it does not change the fact that sunsetting is a lazy attempt to balance the sandbox by pushing old sandbox items from the meta. Not to mention legendary weapons have some of the coolest designs I've seen, many of which will become useless in PVE content due to being older than Forsaken, an issue that I don't see being fixed unless the sunsetting idea gets dropped entirely, simply because transmogging gear is more of a traditional MMO feature and it would take away from the incentive for some players to go and earn those weapons rather than the skin.
As someone who has played since the PS4 D1 alpha. Give up on it man, it's really not worth it anymore. Hell for years I was in denial about Bungie my favorite game studio from the Halo games and was convinced they'd get it right and they still keep doing the same BS over and over again.
@@satorukuroshiro so you know all the stuff you spent money on in this game, like Osiris, Mars, base game if you got it before it was free, and grinding just to get to like 1050 light? Yeah all that shit is practically gone now.
Yeah my complaints about the game have to do with the gear system. I mean, I spent countless hours grinding weapon quests like thorn and luna’s just to have bungie “sunset” everything so I can’t use it efficiently anymore. Sure, I got over that after a while, but when beyond light came out any player can just... have it?! Like are you kidding me. What was the point of me playing the game if bungie would just give it to all the new light players who have never played the fckin game before?? This is honestly the dumbest thing to come out of beyond light in my opinion
When I look at Expansion, I think back to Fable the Lost Chapters and Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction... EXPANSIONS!
i do agree with you but the 80's had a good video game crash that could have had negative influence for the future for this industry
And Warcraft 3 Frozen throne, Red Alert 2 Yuri's revenge, Commandos Beyond Call of Duty, Sonic & Knuckles, Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction, etc.
don't forget the Witcher 3 expansions and medival 2 kingdoms. Fantastic they were.
You could add the Shivering Isles from ES IV: Oblivion to that list. Matter of fact you could add both dlc's from Oblivion. Both pieces of dlc truly felt like fully fleshed expansions rather then rescrapped bs. The storylines and new environments were pretty great too.
RDR Undead Nightmare
I went from a player who spent over 1500 hours on the first Destiny, to someone who'll be buying Monster Hunter in January with the money that I didn't spend on Destiny 2. Damn shame.
Phryman Welcome to the hunt, friend.
Phryman literally the same except I spent 3000 hours in D1. Can't wait for MHW.
I just have/will get both.lol
Phryman is it coming on pc? Thought it was like nintendo swoitch or something
welcome to the wonderful world of monster hunter
Hey man it's hard to admit that you're wrong, but I appreciate it. I was about to buy the game and it's DLC until I saw your video. Thanks dude!
You got it, man! Chances are you'd have fun for a bit, but in the end it gets old pretty quick, you run outta things to do, and then you'd never touch it again. There are better games out there
The Act Man so true i was hyped to get destiny 2 since i skipped out on destiny 1, me and my buddy beat the game campaign together then ended up quiting because the lack of content at the endgame, now i spend my time on rainbow six seige and now recently pubg lol
LOOK AT YOU PSYCHOPATHS. You've created a campaign to end the possibility of Destiny 3 by actively supporting a community of hate against a company that has made a game where we can kill aliens with space magic. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. We don't need you standing in the way of a better Destiny 3. Get the fuck over yourselves and how many likes and subscribers you have and leave the Destiny community be. We actually enjoy playing crucible, regardless of your cult's opinions.
@@CoryBleichner what? Lol
November 2019 news flash
Destiny 2 Is now free and didn't reward people who bought the game with the dlc, so the $60 they spent now means nothing
Oof
A destiny fanboy attacked middle Earth shadow of Mordor on a middle Earth shadow of Mordor video,it didn't go well for him.
@@bigwhitebirb5936 do you know what video that fanboy commented on? If so can you give me a link to that video?
@@lunakitsuna I can't remember, sorry but be on the lookout, I think it was a tip and trick video on middle Earth shadow of mordor
It didnt? Tot got a season pass for free and a xp boost plus free gear and bright dust
One kid in my class thinks Bungie did nothing wrong and he will make the stupidest come backs if you even dare insulted Destiny 2 or Bungie
What would he say
Activision was the problem act just took shots at them cause he used to love them and he felt betrayed and at the time of this video didn't know how much control Activision had over destiny 2
@@counterfeitvictory2598 That's great and all, but let me know when Bungie makes a 4th Marathon game or regicides 343i. Until then, fuck them.
Well, he was right
starman126 how dare he have a different opinion and enjoy the game.. BLASPHEMER!!
OMG when you started playing ghosts of Madrigal I felt my heart sink, the bungie we all loved is gone.
It seems like even 343 is on more of right track than bungie right now. At least 343 was able to admit their fault's recently with MCC (although a bit late), and apologized to the community. Bungie treats theirs as dumb apes. I will say I do have fun playing Destiny on occasion, and the lore to the game is great. Just it won't last, it'll be a game that could've been so much more.
Probably because there's more ex-bungie personnel that worked on the Halo franchise in 343 than there is in bungie currently.
Grimwol Look how Halo Wars 2 turned out, and how they've treated the community this past year. Much better than most companies on the brink of loosing their fanbase.
And at least 343's microtransactions pay for free dlc.
Grimwol they didn’t wtf
Guillaume Tremblay 343 apologizing for MCC? They did do that, you can look it up.
One thing that makes me happy about his videos is when he says, "I'll get to that later," that's how I know this video is long and I love it.
Ry do you play destiny?
@@MaxZ1mus I used to, but I moved over to Warframe.
Yeah but the video is now dated
@@RenMatoi not really
I think that this video explains why I cant find any good games anymore. It just blows my mind that I used to love almost every single game I ever bought. Now that everything is about money and not about the content of the game, I think I can finally see why its so hard to find a game that I can really fall in love with.
Go for older games mate. Cheaper and far better.
Shawn Walsh gow and rdr2
Late to the party but even some modern games can be great. Like DOOM for example . If halo CE is your thing check out the SPV3 version which overhauls the entire campaign.
Gravity Rush remastered and Gravity Rush 2
Rainbow Six Siege is such a great multiplayer game where pretty much everything can be earned by just playing the game and earning credits
I knew this game would be a shitshow from the beginning, played D1 for 3 years. Heard the direction Bungie was going with D2 and I simply knew... Destiny is dead. Another game in Activision's graveyard.
The Dank Train I think you mean another company to fall victim to the greedy bloodlust. RIP Bungie, From Epic to Empty. :(
The Dank Train D1 was bad too
You thought the story was good? I thought it was written by an 8 year old with a space marines and a D&D manual.
Stereotypical paladin, mage, rogue, chip on the shoulder exile, crazy detached lower being(robot).
The paladin mage and rogue lose their powers and cry like pussies.
Main character here to save the day.
"We couldnt do it without you"
I guess it wasnt terrible but damn, really?
Also, the scenes with Ghaul and the speaker? 2 dudes wearing masks, with one monologing and the other speaking in vague phrases?
Big twist: The bad guy wants acceptance. Thanks Disney.
"D&D manual" Oi, look at the last DLC of Borderlands 2, sometimes a D&D manual can achieve beautiful things outside of its nature
The expansions for Destiny 2 are like new rule books like Xanathar's Guide to Everything (but at least that actually adds content and insights for new and old players), expensive and you're not quite sure what to do with it.
I do have to admit that the story didn't impress me at all. I watched through it once and was like, "This isn't too bad." BUT! But then I watched it again with more attention to detail and it basically revolves around Ghaul, a character hyped up to be something, trying to redeem himself so that he can be accepted, only to just go back to being bad evil guy without a second thought. There wasn't any tension to it and it was just "Give me secrets," followed by, "The light is sacred and old and hur-de-dur-de-dur." Cayde-6 was used as comic relief because people loved him and was basically the only character with an actual character since the others are bare bones and struggle to really express themselves due to the poor writing and story design.
8:50 this did not age well at all
“Either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
Your comments on the progression is spot on. Its actually so funny how they just dont realize theyre ruining their own game with this cosmetic bright engram bullshit. Same goes for any other game with this stupid lootbox system. If they want people to play this game longer and to keep us from fucking dropping it in the first month then they need to let us actually complete challenges for these cosemetics instead of fucking buying them. Jesus the amount of time id spend on this game completing challenges or quests for a dope ass sparrow or some cool armor is unfathomable. But yet, they just cant seem to figure out that theyre losing consumer interest by making it fucking random slot machine rewards instead of genuine rewards given to players with genuine dedication to this game. Honestly, wake the fuck up, no one is gonna buy what is literally a small fucking percentage chance with their money Bungie.
This is so true, my dude. Loot boxes are a grind but real challenges, real accomplishments are something to work for
Well division 1.8 is really good. Got a lot of ppl back playing and it never took really anything from players it actually always gave more and more and at least monthly brings out some new challenges or content and rewards to do. Besides the regular daily and weekly rewards. Oh and warframe is an other really good example of giving players more and more everytime.
DJ Arthur Looby The Division I’ve played. It’s fun but has a questionable endgame. Warframe has serious issues though, a lot of people have started to pick up and play it and even suggest it to others. However, being someone who’s played that game for over 1500hours, I would not recommend it, the developers are worst than Bungie I’d say. Only because they have no idea what they’re doing with that game.
Remember in Halo 3 when you had to complete specific achievements to unlock armour? I spent hours upon hours in lone wolves trying to get into specific situations to get those damn armour sets, and it was so worth the effort. I felt proud wearing my ascetic armour on my elite because I felt I had earned it and I wanted to show it off. It is things like that that give longevity to a game. I miss it.
a good cosmetic system was in borderlands 2 for example.
You were able to find changes to the looks of each main character (vault hunter) by either just finding them, completing missions or just doing something specific that triggers the unlocking of the cosmetic item... It wasn't built on greed, it was made so people who like cosmetics in games have some extra playtime by unlocking the cosmetics that aren't hidden behind a huge grind or a real money paywall.
Or the older halos. You were able to unlock all parts of your armor without paying a single dollar extra, just by playing the game or achieving specific things. Ofc most of these were bound to multiplayer, but it was meant to make the multiplayer more enjoyable and for people to have something extra to collect, instead of making them pay more for stuff in a game that could be in there without a paywall in the first place.
Oh man, I will definitely buy Expansion 3 “Zavala’s Revenge”! It will be awesome!
Jetfire191 i don't get the joke, could you explain?
woooosh
People still don’t understand what’s happening... these are companies... with investors that have no idea what a game is. Devs are only good when they’re young and not bound by money. The only way to fix this is something that no one is willing to do.
Boycott AAA titles.
Like seriously. If everyone decided to switch to Nintendo or just go play indie games then the money goes away and the love for creating games comes back
Dapper Dop but most indie games suck and Nintendo nah pokemon was the only thing I liked they copy and paste and make it worse they have problems to
Dapper Dop
Nintendo is making Super Mario Maker 2.
That makes no sense.
Bro I've been trying to start a 48hr D2 BLACKOUT CHRISTMAS EVE AND DAY but everyone thinks it's a joke! Complaining is not taking action it's just complaining and if you still play or just stop it solves nothing!!!
Austin Squires Warframe is there bro. A decent substitute and to some degrees better than Destiny.
Except Warframe
I would absolutely love to see his current stance on the game.
That would be interesting to see
Still dog shit
Played destiny since day 1 and the game is…just a mess. 80% of the game is vaulted(basically deleted and may return” the lore got even more confusing with flying pyramids and darkness shit. You would have to be a og and read lore books to understand shit. If you just started your head will lose braincells trying to figure out what’s going on
He made one (1 month ago so u might have seen already)
Why? It's even worse.
You know all those ghost shells, sparrows and shaders were earned with gameplay in Destiny 1? It really pisses me off how they just sectioned off content that was previously earned through achievement and triumph and are now charging for them in loot boxes.
Whatever vision they had for Destiny when they conceived it has been replaced with the eververse store
@x4prilsF00Lx seems like you are the sheep....
x4prilsF00Lx look, I don't know why you seem so upset here. I played destiny 1 for about 2 years and enjoyed it, I got destiny 2 and beat it within a month because there is no end game content.
What end game content there is, is locked behind loot boxes. You can say they are harmless like all the other sheep and that they don't have anything to do with progression. But if the end game is to get all the best gear and look as good as possible, then locking part of it up and trumpeting behind another paywall just isn't fair. Sorry that you have to much disposable income that you spend it on loot boxes
It also doesn't help that the company lied to players about how much exp they where earning to get a lootbox. Which means that they are trying to push people to buy it to make more money by making it seem that the next one will take forever to get.
+x$prilsF00Lx
Micro transactions should never be in a premium experience where you pay up front, Especially when you are also charging for expansions like in Destiny's case.
In Destiny 2 its all sectioned off into lootboxes, no more Faction ghost shells, unlimited shaders or cool looking sparrows you have to grind a RNG loot box and get lucky which can take hours to get one box or simply pay for more. Its all apart of the experience cosmetics or not it still affects you especially when Destiny is a game about showing off your achievements in the form of cosmetics (Much like what shadow said). The taken ghost shell? That meant you killed oryx and looked pretty fucking cool if you had it. War Cult sparrow? You were devoted to them and it showed your allegiance. People wanted to collect every shader in Destiny because then you have variety, earning themed shaders for specific activities, now? Get lucky, grind for hours or pay up.
My point is that when you take something that was previously earned through gameplay and monetise it for cash, you are harming the experience just to make a couple more bucks it is undeniable if you played the first game that Eververse has affected a part of the game in a negative way. Eververse is Micro transaction gambling bullshit that tries to sells you something that was previously chucked in with the initial asking price as an extra thing to grind. It clearly ruins a part of the endgame that was previously pretty cool and completely free. Its like Halo 5 charging you for armour when it was previously earn able.
Let ask you one question, why did bungie put these items in loot boxes when they were previously earned?
Ill answer for you: To get more money and fill up the loot boxes with more stuff to lower your chances of getting something you want.
It is a fact that bungie have lied to us about the XP gains, they only admitted to it when they were found out.
More people like you should get into making AAA games :|
x4prilsF00Lsx
TH-cams make shit in ad revenue if you pulled your head out of your ass and listened to the recent news about youtube in genereal, i would explain, but i don't have the time to push it though the wall that is your mind.
As for the lore, a good portion of people care about the world they play in, especially if its an MMO game that people like you play for hours on end with less content then the number of brain cells you posses.
Shaders in D1 is superior, and even in the end game of D2 everyone still looks to fucking same because 90 percent of the people color all there armor the same damn shader because it fucking matches. Hell its even the same weapons that kill you over and over in crucible because most people use what has the fastest time to kill.
Also the "cosmetic enchantments" are in a fucking loot box. Im not sure if you can wrap your mind around it because given your last few arguments it only seems like you can insult people while being a corporate mouth piece, but ill make it simple for you. You press a button, and you roll the dice for a chance at getting the big payout, whether that is the jackpot on a slot machine, or that new exotic ghost shell that should have been in the base game where people can complete a goal and get the item, not grinding for hours to keep rolling the dice to get it. D1 at the very least had a small amount of content locked behind eververse, and the only reason they let you play to get the items is so that people wouldn't have threw the game out the window once they realized that all the stuff was behind another paywall.
The Xp gains made a big deal because its another corpation lying to our faces, then backpedalling as fast as they can to make everyone forget, and do stupid shit like defend there game riddled with the same issues as the first year of D1. When a game about the fucking grind you limit the grind then you are hurting the player, they dont want to play more because at a certain point they will put the controller down, stop farming for a lootbox and do something else.
People want what they fucking pay for. If people pay money for a game, and they dont like it, they can bitch about it all they want because they bought the fucking game same as everyone else. There is no end game grind other then loot boxes that hold the cosmetics that should be in the base game. If they removed the option to buy the loot boxes in the first place, but had them there, it wouldnt be an issue because they couldnt try and ring 14 year old idiots with daddy's credit card dry.
The whole "AAA" industry is a shit show of greed and customer disrespect. Half of your arguments are pig headed at best and troll at worst. You clearly love D2 with a fucking passion and will take Bungie's dick up your ass far longer then most people will. So how about you get back to grinding your "free" cosmetics and make your characters look ugly as shit by shading each armor and weapon separately while you sit on your moms house, without a job or anything to support yourself, living like the entitled parasite that you are while claiming that other hard working people that wanted a game to surpass the original dont have the right.
Damn dude..mad respect to you bro. When a game critic and reviewer can criticise themselves about something they previously said, that doesn't add up or isn't really true. You know they're the real deal and not some POS sellout. You are awesone mah dude. Glad I'm subscribed.
If it weren't for all you brilliant people in the comments, I'd have probably not made this video and stood by everything I said. You guys keep me in check and I appreciate that
joey8404 how did he suck his own dick. He literally said I was wrong in my first review and then gave a few prefaces before starting what he was saying. This is the first vid I have seen of this guy but if that's "sucking your own dick" then I have seen about 95% of TH-cam fuck themselves hard...get a life man
this is why i'll always respect the monster hunter series, they release free DLC every single month for a year, actually care about their game and their playerbase.
Horseradish The head of development pretty much just said fuck off to microtransactions. I was extremely happy when that I heard about that, such a great game and so hyped for World.
Act man would have a seizure over what’s happening in destiny 2 now.
damn what's going on this time now
@@seraphofthursday maybe the whole vaulting thing, all the content from the first 2 years of D2 it’s going away, content people paid for is going away, that’s beyond unacceptable
@@wolfdragox5563 So it is still bad?
You know a developer has hit rock bottom when they go from being one of your absolute favourites to something you would even cross the road to piss on if it was on fire.
No halo dev is on bungie anyways. They left after Destiny 1 i think
Overpriced Low Effort. That sounds like most of the Video Game Industry Nowadays.
ExarchofJustice Except Nintendo Games
rip. Except some indie games and the occasional actually good, non-microtransaction-infested game (like Titanfall 2). jerkinmajer Nintendo is a shining beacon in the darkness.
Bethesda still has my vote. Creation Club blows but their base games are always fucking amazing.
Even with all these greedy companies, I still played a lot of great games this year. I don’t agree with the notion that gaming is dead or there are only good Indy games.
The last 40 seconds are so true it hurts.
Stand down, Bungie.
Come home with us. Its not too late to stop this.
Bungie: "Broken PVP for over multiple months with everyone frozen go Brrrrr!"
Bungie: Stop? No, fans. This is too important to stop.
this comment should adress my biggest pros and cons with this game.
Pros:
1. Overall it is a great shooter. graphics, sound, gunplay is the best you can probably find and the only thing that holds the game up.
1.Gunplay and playing with friends is so much fun that it can keep you playing for maybe 10.000 hours plus.
1. English Voice acting for the most part is good.
Cons:
1. The biggest and worst flaw of this game: It is pay 2 play, and everyone who tells you otherwise is lying. First i paid 30 bucks (bought it only half a year ago so its cheaper), then bought curse of osiris and warmind for 20, then forsaken for another 20 and then the annual pass for 35. Makes 105 € for the complete game. if i had it bought on release it would be:
60 for base game
20 for warmind
another 20 for osiris
then idk 30 for forsaken at least
and the annual pass for 35
That makes it 165 bucks for complete game. this is an atrocious number and NO GAME in the whole wide world is worth this amount of money.
The game is pay2play because with base game you can only reach level 20, with dlcs at least 50 which equals 500 power and only with that and the annual pass you can get to about 650 power.
The campaing is pretty bad, both at mission design and story, same goes for warmind. osiris is a bit better. forsaken is the best of the storys but at mission design also not very good. overall the whole game is very monotonous.
The Only thing that SAVES THIS GAME is the gunplay and the loot. the gunplay is perfect and feels just great and by playing you constantly get better gear and can make your character stronger. If the game didnt have good gunplay or the grindy loot it would be a complete failure.
If i should rank this game i would go for a 6/10 at least, but judging the bad story, monotonous mission design and atrocious money grabbing shit in the game it would be 4/10 at best. ALSO the game didnt really improve on the first game that i played for over 300 hours on ps3 with friends.
We still have NO SPACE COMBAT. This is a Sci-Fi game set in the future with big spaceships and traveling across the whole solar system, why no space combat. it is the thing this game needs. WHY SO FEW TANK MISSIONS. In the campain we only had 2 which were really cool and in the multiplayer i had ONCE the random option to use a tank in a strike and never saw something like that again. since destiny 1 i dont have friends left who play destiny 2 so i cant play raids. why no matchmaking for raids. i saw playthroughs and streams of them and the bullshit excuse from bungie saying:" the raids are too hard for random players" is bullshit. so i dont even have the option to play these parts of the game but i payed for it. wow.
IF you make a Destiny 3 and i know you will, bungie, then fucking be more creative. you have this whole universe which has SO MUCH POTENTIAL. And you are the ones who made the fucking HALO games.
And i swear if Activision makes this pay2play shit again in the next game i will fucking boycott this shit
Reichskriegsführungsführer you get power increase every season you don’t need the annual pass for that
It’s for all forsaken players
@@alphawizard8496 first mistake, buying the game in the first place
Funny thing is, Activision is no longer with bungie, so we can’t blame them. It’s all on bungie now.
Id never pay more than 10 euros for a game ive already payed for
Cade Norris I heard bungie is the one to blame for literally all the things wrong with destiny while under Activisions belt.
I couldnt agree more
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Fucking greedy asfff I smelled it in destiny 1 I lost repsect after H.O.W
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I could agree more. I agreed the shit out of this video.
Now you agree lol
5 years ago bdobbinftw was saying all this..
I happy you all got screwed
I would really LOVE to see you revisit this in light of Bungie removing access to PAID content and level locking weapons with the release of Beyond Light.
Outside of forsaken all year one content got made free, but that doesnt diminish the fact people paid for it and didnt really get anything in turn for having done so when said content went free
I remember when Destiny 2 came out on Wednesday and two days later, I had the money to get Destiny 2. So I went to a mall nearby and I went to a retro store that sells retro Games, Records, Comics, Etc. and the store had a copy of Super Castlevania IV that cost around $45 dollars and I was tempted to get it (Cause I have a SNES at home). So I had a choice to get Destiny 2 or Waste my money on a game that came out 26 years ago for the SNES?
Good thing I choose the latter and to this day, I’ve never bought Destiny 2!!!
+GAMER3Productions That's amazing! I hope you are excited for Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night & the prequel-ish game Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon! Gonna be fantastic games.
Oh yeah I saw Bloodstained, it looks awesome.
Bungie locking players out of content they had access to before is not news to me. This exact same thing happened in Destiny 1 when TTK came out, but fans just brushed those complaints aside, PURPOSEFULLY playing ignorant and just said "Well you gotta keep up with the expansions coming out!"
I remember they locked off the Nightfall, even if it was a vanilla mission. I complained about this in the forums, and people mocked me saying "they shouldn't give year 2 loot to people who didn't buy the expansion." I wasn't asking for year 2 loot, I was asking for the same rewards I had gotten in year 1. But no, people sat there and criticized my legitimate complaints by playing ignorant to the real issues.
True, but now it happened afrer community has been livid and out for blood already, the PC players have not yet felt this "generosity", and in general the fact that they had the stupidity to do it again all came together to produce an explosive effect. Together with general reaction to this update
At that time most people wanted to buy the "expansions" anyway.
The problem is no one listens to you if you don't have any subscribers.
Personally, I feel that Bungie died when they married Actvision. God rest their souls.
Samurai... Didn't mean to imply either femenininity or masculinity for Actvision. Was just pointing out that they (Bungie) doomed themselves when they joined the Actvision "family". I would be shocked to see anything worthwhile come out of the studio again. Hope I'm wrong but I tend to doubt it.
Moral of the story. Don't get married. XD
Getting married in a year... 😢😢
Marlon Thomas...Good luck on your upcoming grand adventure.
Samurai...You have either done a ton of research or have been following the situation for some time. I did not research in depth (as you have) but do know from experience what inevitibly and inexorably happens when the suits get involved with creative, artistic or innovative companies. The spark that made the company special never survives. A shame really. Thank you for the abundance of background.
The ODST theme gets me every time. I remember how awesome it was when it played in Reach as you rescued Buck.
Destiny players are so defensive I meet one I said it's not my type of game he got so defensive and did a rant of how it's the best game ever
Was he 12 years old?
@@returnedtomonkey8886 no worse 19
@@JP-fg2vo oh boi.... I'm 19 too. What did he said?
Same, I have a friend like that too
Love Destiny 1. Sure its a hell of a grind, but its rewarding as hell. Destiny 2... Best way to label the game "Pay for less"
Destiny 2: Curse of Osyris.
-20$ "expansion"
-reskined enemies
-1 and a half hour long story addition.
-Several maps
-locked content
-Additions to mxts
-2? Mediocre strikes
-weapons (4 were in the og destiny)
Starwars battlefront 2: The last jedi/ Resurrection.
-FREE "expansion"
-reskined enemies
-1 and a half hour long story. addition.
-1 ground map, 1 space map
-2 new vehicles 2 slightly altered vehicles
- 2 new hero's
-no addition to mtxs (for now)
-new daily/weekly challanges
Anyone who bought destiny in year one knows how bad bungee is
so true, especially with the backwards compatability
Tbh for me destiny 1 was fun (with friends) destiny 2 is just a simple copy and paste with the same content... but they somehow did it so it barely runs on console, it’s extremely repetitive and boring... and all the loot are just reskins
yup I went into D1 with every single dollar I had. they got all of my money......ALL of it. bought the game when it came out. then bought dark below. next was house of wolves. then because you got some other stuff with buying the expansion pass i bought it even tho I already had the 2 dlcs. yes I was crazy...still kinda am but whatevs. then they had a sale of the gold edition or something of the game that gave you the base game and the expansion pass and some other useless shinny shit that I didn't have but wanted so bad because other mutha fuckers had it. yup you heard right I bought everything that I already had just to get a ship and a ghost. all of this was taking place on old gen btw. then the taken king came out and I bought it on old gen and some expansion to the expansion stuff because well why not? the stuff was shinny and cool I couldn't control myself. then rise of iron arrives but wait for me to play rise of iron I had to buy a current gen console. no big deal here you go here's $400 of my dollars. so I buy the base game again for ps4 and what do you know the expansion to the expansion stuff that I bought on old gen doesn't carry over to new gen. at this point I'm starting to smell the shit that's being handed to me. but whatever I buy rise of iron and it's the biggest disappointment out of all the expansions that I've bought. a long time ago destiny was streaming on Twitch the release of some new content for the game and the subject of matchmaking in the raids was brought up to a spokesperson. sorry but I can't remember the name of the individual who responded to the question but let me tell you it was not good....at all. that person responded by saying we are not here to help you make friends. at that point I should have stood up and walked away from the game. basically we needed to go out on our own and find people to do the raids with. which is fine by me but if you are someone looking to make whatever business you have grow and expand why wouldn't you do it? it's simple just have the option to go into the raid with your friends or select matchmaking to find people for you. probably should have left but my girlfriend at the time was playing it and a bunch of mine and her friends were playing it blah blah blah. but I found myself wanting to ask the guy, have you ever played a video game in your life? do you understand how marketing works? if he wanted I could have drawn out a chart of how "helping" one person make a friend could trickle down and lead into other people buying the game just because they are a family member or a friend. and if this is done for thousands of people and they get their friends or family to buy the game and so forth and so on......you know what whatever it doesn't matter. you can lead a donkey to water but you can't make him drink it. HEE-HAW! HEE -HAW!
True shit
I bought y1 too, with some expansion passes. After that I could only buy new expansions if i bought the ENTIRE game + previous expansions again.
I stopped playing a week into y2 because bungie decided to cut the content I was still progressing into.
Couldn't even go into bountie runs anymore, there were lvl x enemies everywhere!
Sigh, I remember a simpler time when Destiny Came out and me and a friend played the hell out of it up until the taken King. So happy I didn’t continue that grind fest of a game.
The raids with buddies were its peak but eventually the game got stale as hell.
thanks for the vid act man. im glad that so many people are trying to get bungie and activision to pull their heads out of their asses, and if not that, then to warn away any who would be swindled by their current practices. also, awesome banjo tooie music reference at 10 minutes:]
I got the expansion because my friends - who I had enjoyed playing the base game with, have got it, even though it came out only 1 month after the release of the base game on PC, which pissed me off immensely.
The campaign of the expansion takes about 60 minutes to complete, and contains a mission which is almost identical to a strike - which in turn was ripped straight from the campaign. Almost all the other missions take place in existing areas with little to no modification, and the missions which don't are all extremely bland and repetitive.
The strikes added with the expansion are carbon copies of the campaign missions, with the story of one literally being: "the Vex have undone everything you did in the mission, so do it again". The new space the smallest by far, and only has a single public event, and potentially its best feature: the "Infinite Forest" can't even be accessed unless as part of a mission.
I'm very disappointed and seriously thinking of refunding my purchase on both the expansion and the game.
N0gtail What do you mean "refunding"? Is that even a thing?
There are pretty strong consumer laws where I live, and since they made some things from the base game only playable with the expansion I could easily get a refund for false advertising.
but like wouldnt that require a lawsuit of some sort or is a store just going to take your word on it lol
"best game on PC" *casually looks over at Warframe.
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Outside The Box 😭
XD ur a genius omg ur awesome XD best comment i've seen in a while
Illuminati confirmed
it goes both ways lol
IT EVOLVED!!!
This rings even truer nowadays as these new "seasons" take away the old content and replace it with shitty new stuff. And the new content now is also very miniscule because now bungie has not enough manpower to support this type of game. And now destinys microtransactions have become worse as now only bright engrams come from the season pass instead of leveling, so new cosmetics are a rarity. Destiny has shat the bed and it shows
This is why games like warframe need more attention and popularity to show people what real developers look like and how a great game should be handled
so what exaclty is supposed to be great on this shit? rofl
No amount of money is ever enough for these greedy SOB's. These are the type of people that would rob their own grandmother for an extra 5 cents, and they will gladly run a company into the ground to make an extra $5 this quarter so they can get their golden parachute and make it the next guy's problem. Oh, and BC didn't add 20 levels to WOW - it added 10. All of the expansions added 10 except for Cata and MOP which added 5.
Akaihiryuu77 They will catch a sucker and sell...
I wanted to so badly love this game. I had enjoyed the first destiny, even without the dlc, so I was really excited for destiny 2. When I finally got it, I was blinded by fan boyism. After a while, I finally gave into the fact that this was not a good game
Three years now from that video, and even though I started playing Destiny 2 since mid November, I find it very entertaining.. If I understand correctly, both the curse of Osiris and the Warmind DLCs are now free as well as the game. Forsaken and Shadowkeep are still monetized, but oh well...
But I don't know.. I played like 300 hrs so far, and the game still manages to give me that joy I want.
it is fun but bungei still isn't fully prepared to support the endgame but it does have a lot of content for players who joined recently.
The state of gaming is depressing. Damn
We always got the classics BOII
The Act Man that’s what I’m saying! I recently got into Final Fantasy so I got plenty of great games ahead of me!
I have no words. You're probably the only youtuber that I respect. In this video you gave great points. An easy way to understand what was wrong with the videogame. You knew how to stay serious and still stay entertaining.
Amazing video.
Thanks boss! Glad you enjoyed it!
Meto i hate everything did a video on this and he made great points
Check out Skill Ups review if you want to hear a bungie fan completely break emotionally in a serious and entertaining fashion. These are probably the 2 best reviews of this game Ive seen.
Ditto my dude, I feel the same about Act Man, he's great lol
Some other channels I like are SomeOrdinaryGamers, and NakeyJakey
Unfortunately, I paid for the season pass at launch. Now I am regretting it..
I'm not regretting it but sad that these "DLC" are not even close to D1 content in the slightest. In which is so depressing :(
Use it as a lesson, mate.
+Zami A still had more content then siege lmao
Zami A Not really, it looked so much better than D1. Looks can be deceiving mate. At least I didn't fall into the trap of buying the season pass.
*SUCKER* XD
"We payed for the game, it is ours. You can't take things away from that game that we purchased"
Please make a video about Beyond Light. They literally took away content we paid for in exchange for nothing.
For real. I don't even play the games and even I can see how stupid that is. The corruption runs far too deep.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 indeed, and now they can't blame activision for supposedly "overreaching" when it was them all along.
That Hoenn battle theme :D
When Destiny 1 lasted longer than D2 😂
I loved D1 for the whole 3-4 years, and still agree Destiny 2 is trash, too easy, and a ripoff
+First Last FUCK N A
Gatds same dude i bought it for 68$ i played it the whole way and thought it was great then realized it bad
people already paid the money, DESTINY 3 COMING RIGHT UP xD
D1 ended on a high note, hope was high for d2, boy how wrong I was.
Today's gaming is going down the drain am I right
Only if people keep buying and supporting the wrong games. The AAA side of gaming though is a fucking joke, it has turned into nothing more than a concept of “who can make the most money off their games” as opposed to “who can make the most creative and innovative games”.
WyzieSolo Bethesda FTW! I enjoyed all of the games I bought from them, currently playing Dishonored 2 here going full stealth, and it's amazing! Kudos to Bethesda team!
Scarface multiplayer games are going downhill with all the micro transactions mate :)
Yes for sheeople chumps who dont know how to choose good games, theres more badgames then ever and its easier to blindly fall in the pit of shit games . If you make wise choices then gaming is litterally better then ever... you are half right from the wrong side.
Remember when you got a full game when u bought one?