If anything I have set one of the 6e up and these are great for connecting from distances. Seriously I was probably a football field distance away and I was getting full bandwidth without dropping connection. I recommend spending the money on these compared to the decco. The only problem I had with setting this up was they had 2 different IoT devices that 1 was newer and would connect to the 2.4. The other wasn’t pulling an up address even though I had set up a vpn for both. Turned it off and the 1st one still refused to connect.
They've missed the pricing. That's more than Enterprise systems that have proper Enterprise features, including VLANs, centralized auth with VLAN steering, etc etc etc. It's for those who have more money than sense. (And I have an older -- much more economical) Orbi system in service at one location as dumb APs... not against them at all, but the value proposition isn't there on the newer ones anymore.)
I agree. Definitely not an enterprise product so I didn't expect vlan firewall rules and such. But they did hit the mark on a 4x4 MIMO on 3 bands with MLO. Overkill for most households for sure! The Orbi setups are great for non techy households but definitely stick to the the lesser model ones for now until pricing comes way down.
@@digiblurDIY agreed. In that one Orbi site I’m mulling over whether to switch it to a more enterprise or prosumer level product with real networking features or just live with it and wait for pricing to drop on these consumer level systems. I found your notes that you can’t set the 6 GHz channel completely baffling. That’s such a consumer-grade move on their part. Glad you reviewed it. I may have fallen into the trap thinking it was at least as capable as their previous products. That one is a step backward for them. Strange.
I spent thousands over the last 15 years on the latest greatest routers with no success. There are always dead and slow spots no matter where I place my router (mesh and non mesh). Last year I decided to hire an electrician to install CAT8 cables in every room (multiple connections in bedrooms and living room), multiple connections outside for surveillance cameras powered by PoE switches, and finally all that is paired up with multiple 10gbe switches. The heart of this whole setup is 2 Asus AXE16000 Wifi 6E in mesh mode with 10Gbe Backhaul). My primary device is my PC and I'm enjoying full 10gbe speeds with my network and internet (3.0GB/sec up and down), 2 Synology NAS servers (8 bay DS1821+ with 10gbe LAN and 4 Bay DS918+). The best setup if possible is to always have a wired connection. But in scenarios where that is not possible, I guess Wifi 7 or Wifi 6E is the next best thing depending on the budget one has.
@@digiblurDIYmy mobile devices are only used to stream videos. At this point my wifi setup is perfect for what is needed. I think I’m just done putting any more funds into wireless routers and access points. I wired up everything that can be wired like my PS5 , TVs, security cameras, and everything that has an Ethernet port. My PC and NAS are the one that needs fastest connection hence they are wired.
Not really something like that if you want to do vlans and routing stuff between them. They have the typical guest network isolated thing consumer routers have. The one cool thing they had is a 2.4ghz IoT network setting that allows you to pair your devices up without things complaining you are using 5ghz.
The biggest issue I have with advanced wifi mesh networks is low power, low end devices often disconnect and refuse to reconnect. A few. Of my wifi tuya switches and Shelly devices hate my Asus mesh network with all the high speed settings on. So it's down to basic mode now, and I have no issues. In all honesty I didn't need the speed features anyway... I only watch TH-cam and security cameras
I've played with a couple Asus mesh systems over the years and do agree there, lots of issues. We either swapped to a wired AP system or Orbi stuff in that case based on the ability to run ethernet or not.
@@digiblurDIY mine is wired, basically two ax routers what are connected with Ethernet... But ax mode is disabled and advanced mesh settings are off ... And now all my cheap low power devices act normal.
Little pricey for sure! And same here, we've had 3 or 4 nodes in the Church for several years. They just work and definitely much cheaper than the quotes we got to run ethernet all the way in the back half of the church.
I have this system and I hate it. My devices keep dropping the connection. I’m going back to my slower, but reliable Asus router that was 20% of what I paid for the Orbi.
I have at a friends house and it seems to be clicking along fine for them and that have a quite a few smart home devices. I don't think they have any 6ghz stuff yet though, only 5 and 2.4.
Wait...everyone said this about 6... then 6E and now 7?!?! :) I will say 7 is a decent spot for a long time to come for things. Keep in mind that applies with using 7 in the other bands as well.
@@digiblurDIY Too dang expensive for me and frankly I prefer wired whenever possible. WiFi is for IOT, mobile devices, and guests in this house. Luckily wired is an option for me.
Pretty cool system but pricing is way off. Companies are treating these devices like they are enterprise level but missing many features. You cna pick up and build your own system for half this price and then just grab some decent APs for Wifi.
Totally agree. If you can run wires, definitely go with APs. I get the focus here being no wires for situations where you can but it doesn't mean I have to like the price.
@@digiblurDIY Exactly, it's not just Netgear it's a lot of these companies this generation. Prices have surged very high with a lot of these routers for not much more features. They bring down the prices I think they could be some solid solution for users.
Question. My 970 with one satialite keep randomly dropping cinnection. My netgear modem only never drops, just the 970s. All firmware is up to date and the 970s are "good" signal between the two devices. Also replaced the cable going from the modem to the 970. Next will be trying wired back haul. I setup the system with the orbi app. Any suggestions on setting up the 970 or settings to change?
@@digiblurDIY I asked the question a bit to early. The 970s are not the issue. The modem has great signal from the ISP when it's working. However, the modem randomly searches for a downstream connection from the ISP. The ISP said it's signal interference and or a faulty equipment issue somewhere in the field and has deployed a line crew to trace the ISP line and check for faulty connections and equipment. Also the wired backhaul is working great.
Yeah the size is understandable given the specs especially with 4x4 antennas across all the bands. A lot to pile into one box. Price is definitely high compared to other WiFi 6 ones that will fit most people.
I bought the three of these and they're not very stable and they don't connect everything. My VIve XR will oonly connect at 5Ghz, Netgear has told me I have to live with it after all the money spent on these. I'm really disappointed in Netgear.
Bingo! Goes a long way as long as you don't have some crazy difficult drops to run. About the only thing lacking is Ubiquiti doesn't have 4x4 Wi-Fi 7 APs yet.
netgear huh, that comapny is slowly getting their consumer router to a subscription. Worst thing about it is once your subscription expired, your network goes along with it, basically make the entire thing stop working.
If anything I have set one of the 6e up and these are great for connecting from distances. Seriously I was probably a football field distance away and I was getting full bandwidth without dropping connection. I recommend spending the money on these compared to the decco. The only problem I had with setting this up was they had 2 different IoT devices that 1 was newer and would connect to the 2.4. The other wasn’t pulling an up address even though I had set up a vpn for both. Turned it off and the 1st one still refused to connect.
They've missed the pricing. That's more than Enterprise systems that have proper Enterprise features, including VLANs, centralized auth with VLAN steering, etc etc etc. It's for those who have more money than sense. (And I have an older -- much more economical) Orbi system in service at one location as dumb APs... not against them at all, but the value proposition isn't there on the newer ones anymore.)
I agree. Definitely not an enterprise product so I didn't expect vlan firewall rules and such. But they did hit the mark on a 4x4 MIMO on 3 bands with MLO. Overkill for most households for sure! The Orbi setups are great for non techy households but definitely stick to the the lesser model ones for now until pricing comes way down.
@@digiblurDIY agreed. In that one Orbi site I’m mulling over whether to switch it to a more enterprise or prosumer level product with real networking features or just live with it and wait for pricing to drop on these consumer level systems.
I found your notes that you can’t set the 6 GHz channel completely baffling. That’s such a consumer-grade move on their part.
Glad you reviewed it. I may have fallen into the trap thinking it was at least as capable as their previous products. That one is a step backward for them. Strange.
I spent thousands over the last 15 years on the latest greatest routers with no success. There are always dead and slow spots no matter where I place my router (mesh and non mesh). Last year I decided to hire an electrician to install CAT8 cables in every room (multiple connections in bedrooms and living room), multiple connections outside for surveillance cameras powered by PoE switches, and finally all that is paired up with multiple 10gbe switches. The heart of this whole setup is 2 Asus AXE16000 Wifi 6E in mesh mode with 10Gbe Backhaul). My primary device is my PC and I'm enjoying full 10gbe speeds with my network and internet (3.0GB/sec up and down), 2 Synology NAS servers (8 bay DS1821+ with 10gbe LAN and 4 Bay DS918+).
The best setup if possible is to always have a wired connection. But in scenarios where that is not possible, I guess Wifi 7 or Wifi 6E is the next best thing depending on the budget one has.
Yup! If you can wire I would just grab some wifi 7 access points for less than $200 a pop and put 2 or 3 around the house.
@@digiblurDIYmy mobile devices are only used to stream videos. At this point my wifi setup is perfect for what is needed. I think I’m just done putting any more funds into wireless routers and access points. I wired up everything that can be wired like my PS5 , TVs, security cameras, and everything that has an Ethernet port.
My PC and NAS are the one that needs fastest connection hence they are wired.
Interesting video, those prices are wild though.
How many ssid's can it support, vlans? Any thing beyond consumer network settings to bolster?
Not really something like that if you want to do vlans and routing stuff between them. They have the typical guest network isolated thing consumer routers have.
The one cool thing they had is a 2.4ghz IoT network setting that allows you to pair your devices up without things complaining you are using 5ghz.
What is that UNI 2.5Gbps adapter? can you share the link to that?
I just got the Nighthawk RS700s WI-FI 7 router and it is a beast. If you have one floor try Nighthawk first.
How speed during the speed test ?
The biggest issue I have with advanced wifi mesh networks is low power, low end devices often disconnect and refuse to reconnect.
A few. Of my wifi tuya switches and Shelly devices hate my Asus mesh network with all the high speed settings on.
So it's down to basic mode now, and I have no issues.
In all honesty I didn't need the speed features anyway... I only watch TH-cam and security cameras
I've played with a couple Asus mesh systems over the years and do agree there, lots of issues. We either swapped to a wired AP system or Orbi stuff in that case based on the ability to run ethernet or not.
@@digiblurDIY mine is wired, basically two ax routers what are connected with Ethernet... But ax mode is disabled and advanced mesh settings are off ... And now all my cheap low power devices act normal.
Been an Orbi user for a long time and can’t imagine deviating. Love the tech but sure wish we had some more affordable options in their lineup!
Little pricey for sure! And same here, we've had 3 or 4 nodes in the Church for several years. They just work and definitely much cheaper than the quotes we got to run ethernet all the way in the back half of the church.
I have this system and I hate it. My devices keep dropping the connection. I’m going back to my slower, but reliable Asus router that was 20% of what I paid for the Orbi.
I have at a friends house and it seems to be clicking along fine for them and that have a quite a few smart home devices. I don't think they have any 6ghz stuff yet though, only 5 and 2.4.
Is it better or ASUS ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro
So many devices don't support 6 or 6E. Now they want to push 7. I'll wait for 8 when they push that out next week! 😂
Wait...everyone said this about 6... then 6E and now 7?!?! :) I will say 7 is a decent spot for a long time to come for things. Keep in mind that applies with using 7 in the other bands as well.
@@digiblurDIY Too dang expensive for me and frankly I prefer wired whenever possible. WiFi is for IOT, mobile devices, and guests in this house. Luckily wired is an option for me.
@jmr oh absolutely! Wired is the way. So much cheaper even with Wi-Fi 7 you can pick up a wired AP for less than $200.
Pretty cool system but pricing is way off. Companies are treating these devices like they are enterprise level but missing many features. You cna pick up and build your own system for half this price and then just grab some decent APs for Wifi.
Totally agree. If you can run wires, definitely go with APs. I get the focus here being no wires for situations where you can but it doesn't mean I have to like the price.
@@digiblurDIY Exactly, it's not just Netgear it's a lot of these companies this generation. Prices have surged very high with a lot of these routers for not much more features. They bring down the prices I think they could be some solid solution for users.
Question. My 970 with one satialite keep randomly dropping cinnection. My netgear modem only never drops, just the 970s. All firmware is up to date and the 970s are "good" signal between the two devices. Also replaced the cable going from the modem to the 970. Next will be trying wired back haul. I setup the system with the orbi app. Any suggestions on setting up the 970 or settings to change?
What signal and backhaul type is it showing?
@@digiblurDIY I asked the question a bit to early. The 970s are not the issue. The modem has great signal from the ISP when it's working. However, the modem randomly searches for a downstream connection from the ISP. The ISP said it's signal interference and or a faulty equipment issue somewhere in the field and has deployed a line crew to trace the ISP line and check for faulty connections and equipment. Also the wired backhaul is working great.
Easy simple and very fast.. Answer is yes if you have good internet.
Mesh is great BUT, if you want full potential and performance. They need to be wired up.
Probably just go with regular APs if you can wire things up.
Many thanks for the content ....
interesting hardware, but the size of those things and the price are insane.
Yeah the size is understandable given the specs especially with 4x4 antennas across all the bands. A lot to pile into one box. Price is definitely high compared to other WiFi 6 ones that will fit most people.
I bought the three of these and they're not very stable and they don't connect everything. My VIve XR will oonly connect at 5Ghz, Netgear has told me I have to live with it after all the money spent on these. I'm really disappointed in Netgear.
Figure I will wIt for more competition in the market place.
$1600 I can pay someone to drop Cat6, buy a few Unify APs and a pfSense box that would give you the same performance if not better. What a ripoff…
Bingo! Goes a long way as long as you don't have some crazy difficult drops to run. About the only thing lacking is Ubiquiti doesn't have 4x4 Wi-Fi 7 APs yet.
netgear huh, that comapny is slowly getting their consumer router to a subscription. Worst thing about it is once your subscription expired, your network goes along with it, basically make the entire thing stop working.
They are jealous of Cisco
To much for my blood. But I do like those speeds.
Yup..the price was way too much for use cases in places as well.
Price is insane,who can afford this?
Not for most people!
Yeah it's nuts. 10GBE and MLO