Citroen e-C4 motorway/highway driving efficiency (with heating on)

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  • In this video I do a motorway drive in a Citroen e-C4 and measure the driving efficiency and range. The vehicle is a 2021 Citroen e-C4 Shine Plus, with the 50kWh battery.
    Electric vehicles are less efficient when driving at high speed, such as motorways & dual carriage ways, due to the increased wind resistance and no slowing down for corners, roundabouts, junctions etc, so no regeneration.
    During this trip, which was a total of 5 hours of driving, I averaged 3.8mpkWh. This would give a total range of 175 miles from the 46kWh of usable capacity from the 50kWh battery.
    As you can see from the video, I was mostly driving at 70mph or the traffic speed at the time. The heater was set to 19-20 degC all the time and I had my heated seat on too. The outside temperature was 7-14 degC. I made no effort to drive efficiently or to maximise the range. I tried to keep it real world. With a little bit of effort and reducing the speed a little, it would be possible to get over 4mpkWh, even in these temperatures.
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    Timestamps/chapters
    00:00 Intro
    01:59 Heater
    02:53 Past economy
    03:16 The route
    03:57 TH-cam features
    04:24 Conditions
    06:33 Average speeds
    11:12 Update on the M25
    12:23 Gridserve Electric forecourt
    14:54 Charging
    18:55 Leaving
    20:00 e-C4 comfort
    20:45 Enough range?
    23:31 Road closure
    24:30 Thanks for watching
    25:37 Real world driving
    26:07 M40 closure
    27:26 The stats
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  • @keithgeorge7338
    @keithgeorge7338 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You could have switched off the air conditioning which comes on automatically and run slower fan speed in manual, which is what I do. But plenty of range anyway. Looking forward to more. Cheers.

  • @garyheavens2389
    @garyheavens2389 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make it. Please keep them coming, I do enjoy these types of videos of real world driving, again thanks.

  • @EVChris
    @EVChris 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your videos they have that handheld homevideo style I prefer over the bigger commercial youtubers - you have a lot of nerdy infos that I like. Looking forward to see more of the Citroen driving/charging and daily usage stuff - it’s a really nice looking car that’s affordable 👍👍

  • @alunhoskins4513
    @alunhoskins4513 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Watched this - excellent - video right through. Genuinely useful, realistic and very informative. Thankyou and well done.
    Makes the point very well that this is all the EV that most people need. The reviews on this eC4 get more convincing all the time; apart from those made of course by those who have made up their negative minds beforehand.
    A very refreshing change from so many of the 'reviews' that are out there.

  • @raubuhn4354
    @raubuhn4354 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really confidence inspiring video, your driving style looks similar to mine. I pick up a C-Series Edition tomorrow that Citroen are flogging at frankly offensively cheap prices (Cheaper than equivalent spec petrol automatic!) with 0% finance to boot. I have had an EV before but didnt get into the nitty gritty - this one will be around for a while so useful to see what the range is like over longer distances. Looking forward to grabbing even more now!

  • @nickdrinkwater
    @nickdrinkwater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, great video and really useful as currently considering a purchase and our longest journey would be 110 miles to visit family. I think this confirms we'd have nothing to worry about.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful

  • @kevinelson1
    @kevinelson1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video.thanks for all the information really helpful as I have recently got my e-c4.

  • @JonathanPorterfield
    @JonathanPorterfield 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great video , i really like the eC4 , out of all the stalintis clones , this i feel is the best , i like the ground clearance and its efficiency 👍

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes I agree. Its the best Stellantis EV. Quiet, comfortable, sit high, fast enough. Underrated though.

  • @Middleskeer
    @Middleskeer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another great video. I'm really looking forward to more on the ec4, your videos on the 28kwh Ioniq were great and I was impressed by its efficiency although not its looks! But the Citreon could be a contender for my MX30 replacement.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks.
      Yes the e-C4 would make a good MX30 replacement. The ride is very similar.

    • @bennygustafsson9580
      @bennygustafsson9580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you have a MX-30. What do you think about it (apart from the rear doors). Is the battery to small? I have had cars with 22, 41 and 52 kWh, the MX-30 have 36 kWh battery but we commute 128 km/day so I reckon it would be enough, even at -25 degrees???

  • @judebrown4103
    @judebrown4103 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well I can't believe it's been three years since Gridserve opened, doesn't time fly?! Thanks Matt, enjoyed that a lot. 👍👏

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can you guess what Sunday's video is about?

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GoGreenAutos🤔😁

  • @Illuminatio
    @Illuminatio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting video. I've got one of these cars and absolutely love it; I only do about 150 miles per week so rarely need to charge away from home. I charge on a granny charger overnight which costs about £6 per week. I do find a big drop in range in the winter compared with the summer, but nothing that causes any problems. I would highly recommend both the car and the electric life style.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might like today's video then (out at 4pm), where I demo the self-driving tech in the e-C4.

  • @Torchman-
    @Torchman- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great explainer at 20:47, pretty much sums up the key issues.
    Trying to nudge MIL to get an E.V. as they currently have a Tesla in the household, but not for her personal and individual use. The bigger issue is that we need more places like Braintree to make it easier! Not all experiences are like this unfortunately. Hope all is well :) -- good video!

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. Good to see you made it past 20 mins in!

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great blog. I’ve got an e2008 (2020 model) when I go up to Manchester from Epsom I charge at Warwick. Would like a few more miles but it’s great most of the time. Probably change in a couple of years currently look at the mg or c3 for best costs.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes the new e-C3 looks great value, but not really a long distance/motorway car.

  • @drysdalekev
    @drysdalekev 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting video, thanks for this. Just ordered one of these on a lease for £250/month. Will be charged at home 95% of the time, but after watching this I'm a bit more hopeful i can make the 180 mile trip to my parents without having to stop and charge along the way.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As always it depends on your driving efficiency. But initially, you'll probably want to stop for a 5-10 min top up just to give you a buffer as the range anxiety might get too much.

  • @AndyC2_
    @AndyC2_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video Matt
    Just to let you know the notification came through to me perfectly

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks on both counts

  • @Nikoo033
    @Nikoo033 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video Matt. The display behind the wheel is a bit awkward compared to the Ioniq28. Love the head up display though. Would be cool to learn about how the cruise control and lane assist behave on this EV as well. Cheers 👌🏻

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's the next video on Wednesday.

  • @rtfazeberdee3519
    @rtfazeberdee3519 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice one. I'd prefer a 250 mile range as my longest "visit the family" round trip is 210 miles, that means i don't have to worry about charging. For a longer trip, 200 miles will be beyond my bladder range anyway so it'll be fine for that.

  • @AI.855
    @AI.855 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate your video i am looking ev car and this very helpful. Many thanks

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it was helpful

  • @peteroffpist1621
    @peteroffpist1621 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks good information, realistic usage is important when making your decisions. Price is the factor that limits the mass market.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      EV aren't the premium they once were. Last month (maybe still now too) an e-Corsa was only £2K more than a petrol one. 1-2 year old EVs still within warranty are a bargain currently and in some cases actually cheaper than the ICE versions.

  • @tomrobson5186
    @tomrobson5186 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They are bringing out an EC3 in a few months which looks interesting and will tempt a few people especially if the price of just over £20,000 brand new is correct!

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, the new e-C3 looks very interesting. It looks like it starts at £23K in the UK for the base model and will probably go up to about £28K. It also has the same great suspension from the e-C4, so it will be a great little EV.

  • @bennygustafsson9580
    @bennygustafsson9580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video - I enjoyed it very much. I am on my 12th year as an EV-driver and I am considering a e-C4 as the next car. I am on my 3rd Zoe at the moment and I am very pleased with it but the e-C4 is a bit larger but the battery is a bit smaller, 46 kWh vs 52 kWh. I have so far driven more than 220000 km with my Zoes :) Changing cars in August I think since I will abandon Norway for Sweden so I will need a Swedish registred car in the future. Importing my own car isn't an option since Norway isn´t within the EU - to much taxes and VAT destroys the possibility. I will have a look at the other videos you´ve posted so far. One question - do the e-C4 have a limiter like the Renault have? I use it a lot both on the Zoe, the Captur and Kadjar I have. The consumption goes down a lot with it in use.

  • @markdenhartogh4225
    @markdenhartogh4225 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice test! I will receive my 54kw version. In a few weeks. Curious how the range will be

  • @grahamnicholson7650
    @grahamnicholson7650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an Ec-4 myself and enjoyed your video but it would have been so much more useful if you'd have discussed the settings that you utilised during the drive. Did you have the car in normal or eco mode for the journey (I'm guessing you probably didn't use the sport setting...)? Did you have the regen braking selected on or off? I'd be interested to know, as when I've taken on a decent length motorway based drive I really can't decide how much of a difference the various drive settings actually make.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Normal mode and heating on.
      When you say "regen on or off", I assume you mean using B mode. As it was motorway driving, mostly not in B mode, but would toggle that in and out as extra braking was required.

  • @Worfedia
    @Worfedia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great informative vid as always - going through options for 1st EV and its down to the Inoiq 38KW / Kona 2020 EVE premium SE or this the eC4 Shine Plus ATM - eC4 sits mid price on 2nd hand value though I really really like the Inoiq electric!! Quick Q - where was that Gridserve Charging station on the M25 - can you post a Google Link? Can't find it on Google maps atm

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only travel on the West side of the M25. There's now a load of new chargers at Cobham Services - see th-cam.com/video/qc4mQ-8tMPY/w-d-xo.html
      But not sure about the other parts of the M25. ZapMap will show them all.

  • @markhouston6201
    @markhouston6201 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do enjoy your videos Matt. I'm thinking of upgrading my Kia Soul EV (30 kWh) - 100 mile range is a little limiting, to a used Hyundai Ioniq (38.3) or the eC4, both top spec models. Either would satisfy my range needs and both are roughly the same price used (around 17 - 18K for a 21 plate). I know you're a fan of both cars Matt but if you had to pick, which one would you buy? I'm swithering towards the eC4 purely on looks and better range but it's a close call.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, my preference would be the e-C4 for the comfort, raised height and heads-up display. This one will be up for sale in 3-4 weeks time.

    • @markhouston6201
      @markhouston6201 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Matt, I'll look out for it, though I do like the burnt orange colour.

  • @briangriffiths114
    @briangriffiths114 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Watched all the video on a 42-inch TV at normal speed and it felt a lot shorter than 30 minutes, so I obviously enjoyed it!
    I would suggest that this Citroen EV is all the car most people would ever need in terms of size, performance, efficiency and range and all for the price of an equivalent ICE car like the Ford Focus.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks Brian for the feedback. I thought this video would be far too boring, but its getting half decent views (for my little channel).
      But yes, the e-C4 is a cracking EV and great value too. I'm very impressed with it.

    • @RB-lt8kt
      @RB-lt8kt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is more cramped inside than a Ford Focus and it has a low roof line when getting in and out if you are tall. A better family car would be an ID3 or Hyundai Ioniq first generation as they are bigger inside and have nicer interiors.

    • @briangriffiths114
      @briangriffiths114 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@RB-lt8kt I never understood why they discontinued the first generation Ionic, which strikes me as arguably the best all-round EV ever made and is incredibly efficient. But having seen the Citroen in the flesh several times, I really like that too.

    • @RB-lt8kt
      @RB-lt8kt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I agree I guess it it because of the range ?@@briangriffiths114

  • @redjohn20001
    @redjohn20001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The older EC4s have a 50kWh battery with 45kWh usable but from this year 2023 the battery size was increased to 55kWh with 50kWh usable, I think. Pretty goog miles per kWh I though for motorway driving. Thanks for the video.

    • @laurentrebern9190
      @laurentrebern9190 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      La nouvelle chaîne de traction est composée d'un moteur de 156 ch (au lieu de 136) et d'une batterie de 54 kWh , dont 51 kWh utiles (au lieu de 50 kWh/46,3 utiles) . L'efficience a été bien améliorée d'après les tests.
      En WLTP , on passe pour l'ëC4 de 357 km à 415 km.

    • @palusisko
      @palusisko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The newer C4-e got also better engine, there is not only better power 115kw but mainly efficiency...

  • @jonathanfiguera7479
    @jonathanfiguera7479 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great numbers

  • @steveyoung8376
    @steveyoung8376 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    would be good to see the summer range, and efficiency, still love my old hyundai ionic 28kw - upto 8 miles per kWh

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the e-C4 will be 5mpkWh max. I can get 4.5 out of it now, but I can't see it doing any more than 5. However, that test (albeit in winter) is coming soon before it gets too cold!

  • @Accomplished_Loans
    @Accomplished_Loans หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had to rent this car on a recent European trip because the rental car agency had no other car available (even though I pre-booked). It's a pain in the ass, the battery is good for 3 hours at the most on highway speeds and realistically you'd want to charge every 2 hours or so. In case the EV charging station doesn't work, you want to make sure you have enough range left to reach the next one.

  • @adrianpjones
    @adrianpjones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All vehicles are less efficient the faster they go, including ICE vehicles. The wind resistance increases in proportion to the square of the speed, so it’s not a linear relationship.

  • @Sherukka
    @Sherukka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Usually it is faster to charge several times than fewer times but longer. Then it is important to have as little charge as possible when charging because then you achieve the fastest charging speed. On longer journeys never charge above 80%. Before journeys it is ok to charge to 100%.

  • @tonyrest6714
    @tonyrest6714 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    69p@kw at gridserve but you were charged 53p@kw ? . £20.80p would give me 172 miles in my hybrid at its current efficiency. Home Charging is where its cheapest I guess 🤔 . Good , straightforward video.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The drive there was at 7.5p pkWh as I charged at home over night. So I only use public rapid charging to top up enough to finish my journey and get me home.

  • @gorfonibla1060
    @gorfonibla1060 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Giving it a Hoover and general clean would save some weight!

  • @stevecraft00
    @stevecraft00 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The charging speed will have been limited by the station - if there's a lot of people charging it'll ramp down each charger because the whole site will have a maximum amount it can pull from the grid.
    People forget the amount of power they're talking about - 100kw is the same as 5 houses pulling as much as their main fuse will allow (which never happens and most houses have smaller main fuses than 100A anyway).

  • @kimborch8547
    @kimborch8547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had one on a loaner 3 days ago. Started with 320km on full charge, and after about 50km of driving, it was down to 120km. Low temps drain the battery so fast, its -4 to -7c atm. Btw, I think its a 45kwh battery, but with about 40,5kwh usable.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, these have a 50kWh battery with 46kWh usable. The later model has slightly larger pack with 50kWh usable.

    • @kimborch8547
      @kimborch8547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoGreenAutos looks like you are right.. I swear i looked it up, but now i cant find it 🙂

  • @tomstephenson8579
    @tomstephenson8579 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I drive a eC4 , max charge rate that have done is 78 kw for a short burst , usually about 60kw , never near 100 kw as stated by Citroen

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair, that's the case with most EVs. The max charge rate is only for a short time, in perfect conditions, when the battery is at a low state of charge. So rarely seen in real life.

  • @smudgey46
    @smudgey46 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Test drove a C4e and was impressed but eventually we got a MG Zs 72kw trophy for the greater range, would have probably got the C4 if it had a 60kw+ battery, this must be costing them many sales.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes the MG's are certainly great value and large pack sizes for the money.
      Obviously it depends on your personal needs and if you can charge from home, but I think 200 miles range is more than enough for the majority of UK drivers, if they have home charging. But of course most don't realise that because they want to replicate what their ICE vehicle did.
      But then I started with driving 80 mile range EVs for years, yet still did long distances fine. Any EV with over a 150 mile range feels completely adequate to me. As I showed in this video, I still did a 5 hour motorway drive, driving inefficiently too and did just one 40 minute charge (while I had a Costa and a sandwich). That stop may have been 10 minutes longer than it would have been in an ICE vehicle, but who cares over a 5 hour drive?

    • @smudgey46
      @smudgey46 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember the day of my 24kw Leaf back in 2015 when all charging l did was free, we then progressed to a 30kw Leaf which added an extra 30 miles of range which was very welcome, next came a 38kw Ioniq great car but so slow to recharge on a rapid charger, then we got a MG zs 44kw which charged faster than the Ioniq but had a little less range.
      My main reason for a long range ev is our travels in mid Wales which is still a rapid charger wilderness and the worry nowadays is not range but charger anxiety.
      Thanks for your videos much appreciated.

  • @steveyoung8376
    @steveyoung8376 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    can you pre heat the battery for charging, 23% is quite a high SOC. They need to have different tariffs for different charging speed, i.e. 7kw rate, 22kw rate, 50 kw rate, 100kw rate, 150kw rate, >250kw rate. then people will select the max rate for the car they drive

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No you can't pre heat the battery. However in this case, I had been driving the car for 2.5 hours, so the battery should be warm enough for rapid charging.

  • @ovation1357
    @ovation1357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to know what's so different about your eC4 compared to mine! Best I can safely get on a motorway run at 70mph even in eco mode is 120 miles from 100%. Similar area too... I did High Wycombe to Corsham last week - 90miles one way. I started with 100% and predicted range of 180 miles. Nice day, no rain and probably similar outdoor temperatures; arrived with 30 miles predicted range remaining.
    A rapid charge back to full cost me over £26 at a staggering 85p/kWH (InstaVolt).
    Not impressed 😔

    • @FirstLast-rh9jw
      @FirstLast-rh9jw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Batteries are complete voodoo even to the manufacturers. early adopters will get shafted, depreciation, range, degradation, is massive issue. sounds like you're working with a very degraded battery. Use one of the apps and ODB2 connections to find out the true situation with your car. Or just put it up for sale, pronto. your choice.

  • @ohyesitsme
    @ohyesitsme 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Matt, I know you rate the Hyundai Ioniq 38Kwh so how do you rate the EC-4 in comparison. I also have an Ioniq which I think is a bit more efficient than the Citroen.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Personally I prefer the e-C4. Its less efficient, but then so is everything when comparing with the Ioniq. The ride is excellent in the e-C4 and its also quieter than the Ioniq. I just feels that little bit more premium. It really needs a better badge on the front as the Citroen logo doesn't justify it.

    • @PieterB76
      @PieterB76 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      History has proven that Citroën has produced quite a few cars with high ride-quality, so all in all I think the e-C4 has the right badge on the front😎

    • @alunhoskins4513
      @alunhoskins4513 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@PieterB76 spot on. This is a Citroën getting back to exactly what they were once renowned for - superior, class leading ride quality. It's taken them a while to remember what they were famous for but finally it seems like Stellantis are giving them their mojo back.

  • @skylineXpert
    @skylineXpert หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could get a lower premium picking this instead of cupra born/vw id3.
    I could probably reach malmo from esbjerg (distance of 329 km) on a 100% charge & in eco-mode slipstreaming.

  • @niallchurch2679
    @niallchurch2679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So,you are drinking coffee while driving😇,also,how many yrs could one expect to have an EV like this?

  • @pathfinderphantom2679
    @pathfinderphantom2679 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the c4 petrol and will be changing in June seriously considering getting the C4X, BYD Atto or Jeep Avenger. Does anyone have any thoughts. Cheers.

  • @palusisko
    @palusisko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The C4-e is a very nice electric car, but the charging speed is disappointing, here the VW ID 3 wins without a doubt :-)

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not much in it though. e-C4 101kW charging, ID3 120kW.
      I think I may have read that the revised e-C4 charges at 150kW, which is why I got it wrong in this video.

    • @palusisko
      @palusisko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoGreenAutosThe charging curve is better, not only power.. But yes both ev's are getting better after facelifts.. :-)

  • @maccabeus753
    @maccabeus753 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needs a bigger battery at lower trim levels too. Top trim has very poor colours and dull black wheels. Would buy if lower trim levels had bigger battery.

  • @steveyoung8376
    @steveyoung8376 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    20kw at 91% is preety good

  • @mrm.k7655
    @mrm.k7655 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question. My e-c4 does 1.2 mil/kw when the heaters on. Is there a something wrong with it? Anyone knows?

  • @scottelkington7661
    @scottelkington7661 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would you go for one of these or a Ioniq 38kWh ?

  • @hourbuilder
    @hourbuilder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s insanely expensive. £20 for 125 miles?
    Have you tried charging at Tesla Superchargers? Does it charge at this rate and drop significantly the nearer to full it gets?

  • @caractacus22
    @caractacus22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There’s still a long way to go, isn’t there?

  • @doctorzimzimmer2996
    @doctorzimzimmer2996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 14:58 you have a percentage displayed; how do you get this? On mine there is no way of seeing percent just miles range (which is wildly unreliable).

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a video about this filmed and coming soon. You change the display with the button on the indicator stalk. Or press the button on the wiper stalk to temporarily see the percentage.

    • @doctorzimzimmer2996
      @doctorzimzimmer2996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoGreenAutos when I press the right stalk button it just shows the m/kWh but no percentage and then the Trips if I press again but no percentage!

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doctorzimzimmer2996 Then I guess the software needs updating. Have you done this? Again, a video on how to do that is coming soon too.

    • @doctorzimzimmer2996
      @doctorzimzimmer2996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoGreenAutos I hope your video manages to get across how painful a process updating the software is!! If using a Mac make sure the USB is formatted to MS-DOS otherwise it fails and having to use the USB-C - and then just a mere hour and forty five minutes later it’s done (it had to do the maps too); but still no percentage shown :/

  • @decimal1815
    @decimal1815 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Travelling on the M62 most days, average speed is around 50 at best. My ancient Leaf Gen 1 can manage 4 miles / kWh at those speeds!
    I'd be on the train instead, but they are now so unreliable. Roads are busy in the UK because public transport infrastructure hasn't had enough investment for the last 10 years or more.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The old Leaf was pretty efficient. New cars generally aren't as good as the early EVs, but then they have more powerful motors, more performance and much more equipment which consumes more energy too.
      I though the e-C4 did pretty well at 3.8mpkWh as I wasn't driving efficiently at all. Doing that again, in the same conditions, but not in the outside lane so much, I could get 4-4.2.

    • @decimal1815
      @decimal1815 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoGreenAutos battery capacity is now about 18 kWh.. just enough to get to work and back again!

  • @ashb8572
    @ashb8572 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope destinations chargers get rolled out all over the UK, so EV charging anxiety and inconvenience can become a thing of the past.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We're doing all right in the UK and the network is expanding pretty well. See www.zap-map.com/ev-stats/how-many-charging-points
      Of course there's always areas where its very poor still, but there a 46% increase in the last 12 months, so its progressing well.

  • @gordonchallinor9156
    @gordonchallinor9156 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    50 mph average motorway speed that's what i get in my old astra petrol car roadworks/ limits and a comfort stop half way

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course its what you'd get in any car, as you're limited by the other traffic and the speed limit.

  • @bmpowellicio
    @bmpowellicio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Charging at motorway services is a last resort, just as buying petrol is, its too expensive. I've gone from having to do it in a 22kW Zoe almost ten years ago, to almost never in a later Zoe with 50kW battery. The last time I recharged away from home was on the return from France as I was waiting for the ferry. The usual rules are: avoid charging away from home, and never stop to charge: charge only when you have to stop for the loo or coffee.

  • @RB-lt8kt
    @RB-lt8kt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video with real driving data. It is hard to do 70 mph on our roads because of lorries racing one another or IDIOTS who stay in the middle lane on 3 lane motorways. Police should book people if the stay i the centre lane.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its even worse on 4+ lane motorways now that the hard shoulder has gone. People sit in lane 3 with 2 empty lanes on their left!

    • @RB-lt8kt
      @RB-lt8kt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes M5 is like that where M42 joins it. Brilliant videos of real data and informative@@GoGreenAutos

  • @petermclelland278
    @petermclelland278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happens if its night driving with all the lights on ?Have I missed that video?

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lights do not reduce range as their consumption is hardly measurable.

  • @SHM133
    @SHM133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was this is Eco mode the whole way?

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, not used at all

  • @verygoodbrother
    @verygoodbrother 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If they made the car smaller and aerodynamic, you'd get more out of the smaller battery.

  • @Pete68T
    @Pete68T 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice Car But Looking at the Cost of Charging its More Than Running a Petrol car if You Can Not Charge at Home and Use The Places all the Time ?
    Looking at Your Cost it Seems To be around £6 More For that Trip Than it would of Cost in my Car Doing 54mpg.
    Insurance is also a Lot more For EVs And You Still Have to Have it Serviced Although They Dont Do Anything Realy ?
    So Going EV is Still A Lot More and When the EV is 8 Years old With No Warranty on its Battery How Much will it be Worth Compared to a Small Petrol Car ?
    If the Battery Dies It will Cost a Min of £8,000 To Replace ,Yet to Fix a Petrol Engine Would Be £3,000 Max.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, the cost of DC rapid charging is too high, with the exception of the Tesla network which has many sites open to all. But if you can charge from home, EVs are ridiculously cheap to run - ~£150 for 10,000 miles.
      But who said EVs should be cheaper? That was just another benefit. The point is roadside emissions which has been completely lost in recent years. But that has been deliberate as there's a lot of money going into delaying the transition.

  • @johnchampkin7839
    @johnchampkin7839 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what was the 190 in the green box either side of the map display?

    • @brxee
      @brxee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Passenger and driver climate temp, 19.0 c

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Climate control temperature at 19 degC. It's a bizarre way of displaying it on the e-C4 and taking up so much of the display. They've changed it on the later model, but the older ones remain the same, even after a software update.

    • @johnchampkin7839
      @johnchampkin7839 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do like the C4 , I think we need a car with good suspension with state of our roads.

  • @davidsworld5837
    @davidsworld5837 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    don't think the macmaster got good efficiency from his taycan in his staged trip to lands end etc. and for distance to cost is far too much.
    and he has just put out a tyre video saying they are more and need replacing far sooner which is just false

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I find our EV tyres have lasted the same as any other previous vehicle. This whole thing about tyre ware is just another anti-EV myth. You have to compare like for like. No point comparing tyre wear on a powerful Tesla or Taycan with a low powered family hatch.

  • @Nikoo033
    @Nikoo033 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    30.3kWh in about 41 min, that means an average charging power of 44.3kW. Quite far from the advertised 101kW 🧐 It must have quite a strange charging curve.

    • @Sherukka
      @Sherukka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it’s a completely normal charging curve. No idea to charge much over 80% on longer journeys.

    • @Nikoo033
      @Nikoo033 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sherukka​​⁠ that’s not the point. Here he charged from 23% up to 91%. The battery capacity is 51kWh. At 101 kW as advertised, even if he had charged up to 80%, Matt should have gained 29.07kWh in 17 min. But at 44kW that the car is actually accepting, 23%-80% would have still lasted ~38 minutes instead of 17min, at the charging power advertised. So twice longer. That’s not great.

    • @Sherukka
      @Sherukka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nikoo033 Everybody should know what advertised charging speed means in EVs today. 100 = max charging speed. Better to check the time to charge from 10 - 80% and that’s about half an hour with the latest Citroen software.

    • @Nikoo033
      @Nikoo033 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sherukka according to Matt’s video and my calculations, it clearly never has reached anywhere near 100kW, if anything barely 45kW, so 40 min. Not even 30 min. Basically: misleading.

    • @Sherukka
      @Sherukka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nikoo033 You own an EV? Depends of course also on the charging stations, they are not made equal. Choose Kempower, if available.

  • @conradmilson6654
    @conradmilson6654 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video. But it's a very retrograde way of traveling. If you had four up with a headwind you would be down to less than a 100 miles range. They are great for very local driving but hopeless for long distance unless you want spend hours sat around charging the car.

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, the range will never be that low. Above 150 miles at very worst, in the worst conditions. But the reality is that the majority of people do only 20-40 miles a day, most days. So if you can charge from home while you sleep, range is not an issue at all. And the odd times you travel more than the range in a single day, you just do a quick DC charge.

  • @AndyC2_
    @AndyC2_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cost me today - £31 to buy 36.5kwh which will get me 90 motorway miles
    That’s got to be twice as much as a petrol or diesel
    I can’t get excited about these charging sites with insane pricing sorry

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gridserve is 69p pkWh. The e-C4 was doing 3.8mpkWh at motorway speeds. So £31 would get me ~171 miles on the motorway. You must have a very thirsty EV or your maths is wrong.

    • @AndyC2_
      @AndyC2_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoGreenAutos My maths is spot on, I even took a screen shot.
      Bridgwater on M5
      £0.85p KWh
      Took 49 mins to get them 36.5kw in too.
      Bit of a joke to be honest
      Only good thing is my employer pays for the electric and I invoice them for every minute I’m sat waiting for the car to charge which usually totals around £500-£600 a month, that’s before they’ve paid for the electric 😂

  • @valkoharja
    @valkoharja หลายเดือนก่อน

    You shouldn’t be charging any EV to 100% daily

  • @FirstLast-rh9jw
    @FirstLast-rh9jw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    disappointing charging speed, disappointing screen and resolution. designed by 8 year old by the looks of it. disappointing cost.... 69p per kwh.... £20.88 for how many miles? Sounds more expensive than a diesel tbh.... massive depreciation. who in their right mind buys a Citroen, petrol or electric?

    • @GoGreenAutos
      @GoGreenAutos  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes public rapid charging is expensive, but the outward journey was at 7.5p pkWh. If you can charge from home, EVs make huge sense. If you can't and would be reliant of public charging alone, then you don't switch to EV for lower running costs. (Its about the same with the current electricity pricing).

  • @erosravera3721
    @erosravera3721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You drove too slowly. This is not a test at highway speeds (82 mph).
    The efficiency of the e-C4 engine is terrible. Not suitable for the holidays.

    • @benellis7427
      @benellis7427 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s not actually legal in the UK.