Also the spring beneath the lever is actually an auto-adjusting mechanism for tightening of the handbrake cables slack , it is an updated version of the two screws with double nuts that were used in prior cars :)
Regardless of new handbrake shoes or not. If you ever need to use the BMW handbrake in an actual emergency, you would be better off holding up an umbrella through the side window.
Same issue on my e92, bought the hardware months ago to do the job, now I really have no more excuses to not get it done, thanks George. By far the best video I’ve seen on same set up as my car.
The brake caliper guides are meant to be assembled dry, any oil or grease in there can cause all sorts of trouble, like eating away at the rubber seals, or accumulating dust and dirt and cause premature wear on the guides themselves and can restrict their moving inside the guide beds, causing your brakes to overheat or some other type of failure due to excessive heat.
No they are not, you CAN install them dry but most people think you have to because they use a caliber grease that swells and eats away the rubber. Use a light silicone grease and it will keep them clean and the rubber soft
@@bigman7083 any kind of grease attracts particles of all kinds and gets them stickied to your guides, which causes premature wear on the surface, which in turn causes wear on the guide "bed"s surface leading to ultimate failure of the caliper and the need to buy a new one eventually. Which can be avoided by installing them dry, as they do in the factory and as they recommend in most of the workshop manual articles.
Done the total replacement on both of my E46’s, handbrake mechanics and have to say they are now up to scratch exactly how you have described in the video,another great tutorial George, keep them coming.
Nice job, easily done and def a key job on older bmw’s. Looks like adjuster wheel placed on the wrong way during install. No drama just mean you will wind the wrong way in a few years during adjustment.
Doesn’t really matter which way that wheel goes on, like you said you just need to remember which way you need to wind it. I’ve already fully adjusted both sides👍🏻
Inside the hub gets corroded and ya lose some of the surface area! Ya should pull the handbrake from time to time to clean up the inner surface! Says so in the owners manual! Great video, that's the correct way to adjust the shoes!
Also people putting grease on the rear wheel bolts, do not realise that the grease will find its way on to the handbrake shoes inside of the rear disc. Meaning poor handbrake performance even after adjusting the handbrake.
Once again great video George! I just finished my 320xd N47 timing chain job and got the car started again after a terrifyingly long cranking like yours did also! Can't thank you enough for your timing chain replacement videos, I used those to do my chains and it all worked out good. This will be my next job as i have same inconsistency+dragging parking brake, but repairing those is gonna be like a walk in the park after the nightmarous engine in the car -chain job! :D
I have an auto, so it holds pretty well in P, but the actual lever parking brake feels like it does nothing at all. I can set off with the lever pulled up and it just shows a warning message, but the car will still move.
Yep that’s a job I’m planning to do. Great timing! Complete overhaul of all the breaks, it’s been five years and six months and I’ve noticed the handbrake travel.
I've replaced everything apart from the expanding locks and the handbrake is still very bad. New cables, new shoes, new springs, new handbrake lever and self adjusting mechanism. I guess I'll be changing the expanding locks then...
I don't know about other cars but I love my e82 for how easy it is to work on!! I may have to do this job, sometimes the handbrake feels great and other times I have to pull it through the roof
Question: At 7:46 the adjuster is shown with facing left when dismantling, then at 10:06 you assemble in the shoes with adjuster facing right. is this correct?
1:29 Yea the hand brake or Emergency brake as we call it in Canada is "only used when or for parking the car" LOL. There's nothing else that brake is ever used for lol. I know he knows different I just found that funny.
George. I've got an E92 335d, 2008 registration. At low speeds up to about 20mph, around parking lot etc theres a squeak from the rear brakes. I suspect it might be due to rubbing between the handbrake shoes and the dustshield although not sure. Will get independent specialist to sort it, along with android auto install, drive shaft ends replacement and swirllflap delete. I can do some stuff myself but don't have time or the energy as need to focus on the gym at the moment.
I’ve same issue on my e92, removed the calliper and disc’s to find bad rust corrosion on inner disc were handbrake shoes contact, also the handbrake clasp was all but ceased and it was this combined with the rust that caused the slow release of the shoes, hence the temporary screeching. All sorted now thanks to George’s video👍
kind off, the problem is that the parking brake cables are stretched over time - it is natural for 10 years old car, parking brake will hold very high unless you change the cables.
@@GeorgeAusters nice, I got a second hand subframe. Gunna red oxide it, then epoxy paint it. I'm scared what else will need replacing 😨, rusts pretty bad, wheel carriers potentially. Dam UK salty roads 😒
Great video mate. I've this problem on my E60. I've had the handbrake adjusted at the wheels recently but it made little difference. The handbrake itself will click about 4 times and after that I'm able to pull it all the way up and it drops back down to the 4th click. What do you reckon the problem is? possibly the spring mechanism on the handbrake itself?
Done this recently on both my E38 and F07, and the TIS says no grease on the caliper guide pins, which are stainless and dont need it. Also all the bolts you touched have specified torque settings but no torque wrench?
hi George great video tutorial as always however, if in the future I will search for a tutorial video related to handbrake - would ur vidoe pop up considering the title/video name? cheers man
TH-cam is being very strange at the moment, views have dropped massively and when I put a "How to" title less people seem to watch so i've got to start being a bit more creative!
@@GeorgeAusters Ah I see. Seems to be working then :-D Annoying though not to know what the video is about. Maybe some more info in the description then? anyway, videos are great
@@GeorgeAusters I can respect that. Have a Auto. Enjoying your videos. Can you do a video on FRM module and how to resolve the issue where the reverse lights stop working on the e90.
Also the spring beneath the lever is actually an auto-adjusting mechanism for tightening of the handbrake cables slack , it is an updated version of the two screws with double nuts that were used in prior cars :)
Regardless of new handbrake shoes or not. If you ever need to use the BMW handbrake in an actual emergency, you would be better off holding up an umbrella through the side window.
A handbrake isn’t for an emergency, it’s just for parking
@@GeorgeAusters So you're going down a long mountain road. Your brakes overheat and the brake pedal goes straight to the floor. What you gonna do?
Downshift?
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Well Vw attaches the ebrake cable to the main caliper. It works really well in an emergency. It also works really well went you don't use it.
Same issue on my e92, bought the hardware months ago to do the job, now I really have no more excuses to not get it done, thanks George. By far the best video I’ve seen on same set up as my car.
Appreciate that man!
had same issue with my E46, replaced as per video and all is well. Cheers buddy, just the sort of thing we all need to see
Glad to hear Gary!
The brake caliper guides are meant to be assembled dry, any oil or grease in there can cause all sorts of trouble, like eating away at the rubber seals, or accumulating dust and dirt and cause premature wear on the guides themselves and can restrict their moving inside the guide beds, causing your brakes to overheat or some other type of failure due to excessive heat.
No they are not, you CAN install them dry but most people think you have to because they use a caliber grease that swells and eats away the rubber. Use a light silicone grease and it will keep them clean and the rubber soft
@@bigman7083 any kind of grease attracts particles of all kinds and gets them stickied to your guides, which causes premature wear on the surface, which in turn causes wear on the guide "bed"s surface leading to ultimate failure of the caliper and the need to buy a new one eventually. Which can be avoided by installing them dry, as they do in the factory and as they recommend in most of the workshop manual articles.
Done the total replacement on both of my E46’s, handbrake mechanics and have to say they are now up to scratch exactly how you have described in the video,another great tutorial George, keep them coming.
Brilliant, yeah I noticed the same on my e46!
Brilliant, yeah I noticed the same on my e46!
Nice job, easily done and def a key job on older bmw’s. Looks like adjuster wheel placed on the wrong way during install. No drama just mean you will wind the wrong way in a few years during adjustment.
Doesn’t really matter which way that wheel goes on, like you said you just need to remember which way you need to wind it. I’ve already fully adjusted both sides👍🏻
Finally a proper video about this. Like
Thanks bud!
Inside the hub gets corroded and ya lose some of the surface area!
Ya should pull the handbrake from time to time to clean up the inner surface! Says so in the owners manual!
Great video, that's the correct way to adjust the shoes!
Also people putting grease on the rear wheel bolts, do not realise that the grease will find its way on to the handbrake shoes inside of the rear disc. Meaning poor handbrake performance even after adjusting the handbrake.
Once again great video George! I just finished my 320xd N47 timing chain job and got the car started again after a terrifyingly long cranking like yours did also! Can't thank you enough for your timing chain replacement videos, I used those to do my chains and it all worked out good. This will be my next job as i have same inconsistency+dragging parking brake, but repairing those is gonna be like a walk in the park after the nightmarous engine in the car -chain job! :D
I’m glad I’ve been able help mate👍🏻
I have an auto, so it holds pretty well in P, but the actual lever parking brake feels like it does nothing at all. I can set off with the lever pulled up and it just shows a warning message, but the car will still move.
Needs adjusting then
Hello George, you didn't pay attention to the correct adjuster position. You putt it upside down.
Hmm i think i have to change them because my hand brake is very loose!! Thanks 👌
Yay my 2009 plate 118d crap ive just ordered caliper rebuild kit and shoes etc now order these 2
Good stuff!
Did you do this video before or after the video with the quick fix for handbrake?
Did this on the e60 not too long ago. The friction material wasn't worn, but was delaminating away from the steel!
Exact same on the e66!
where is the link in the description on adjusting the parking brakes ?
Yep that’s a job I’m planning to do. Great timing! Complete overhaul of all the breaks, it’s been five years and six months and I’ve noticed the handbrake travel.
Well worth doing mate👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters did you notice a performance in cooling on your discs, I ask because the ones one my car are not OEM and do overheat very quickly.
@@hadeswhitediamond7162 what car have you got?
@@piovo1 120d
@@hadeswhitediamond7162 f20 or e80?
Ah, someone has beat me to the adjuster wheel replaced the wrong way round. Somebody will be adjusting the wrong way in the future.
Excellent I got the trw shoes as well
I've replaced everything apart from the expanding locks and the handbrake is still very bad. New cables, new shoes, new springs, new handbrake lever and self adjusting mechanism. I guess I'll be changing the expanding locks then...
Good luck! 👍🏻
Great video. Is this the same procedure for a 2014 M235i?
I don't know about other cars but I love my e82 for how easy it is to work on!!
I may have to do this job, sometimes the handbrake feels great and other times I have to pull it through the roof
I found that if I pull it up, release it and then pull it up again, the handbrake feels tighter and holds on less clicks. Strange 😂
I’d 100% recommend replacing the parking brake setup and readjusting👍🏻
Question: At 7:46 the adjuster is shown with facing left when dismantling, then at 10:06 you assemble in the shoes with adjuster facing right. is this correct?
No answer so I guess it doesn’t matter
@@faztron1275 It will still work but now in the opposite direction, so now up instead of down to expand on right side.
Hoq much torque do you use in those wheel screws?
1:29 Yea the hand brake or Emergency brake as we call it in Canada is "only used when or for parking the car" LOL. There's nothing else that brake is ever used for lol. I know he knows different I just found that funny.
Yeah on a manual, you use it when stationary in traffic too.
I think the adjuster cog is the wrong way around on reassembly?
Nah it’s fine👍🏻
George. I've got an E92 335d, 2008 registration. At low speeds up to about 20mph, around parking lot etc theres a squeak from the rear brakes. I suspect it might be due to rubbing between the handbrake shoes and the dustshield although not sure. Will get independent specialist to sort it, along with android auto install, drive shaft ends replacement and swirllflap delete. I can do some stuff myself but don't have time or the energy as need to focus on the gym at the moment.
I’d definitely check your parking brake assemblies, could just need adjusting but not a bad idea to replace the lot like I did👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters Thanks George, it's one of a few niggling things I need to sort out on an otherwise brilliant car.
Make thé Brake Piston seased up
I’ve same issue on my e92, removed the calliper and disc’s to find bad rust corrosion on inner disc were handbrake shoes contact, also the handbrake clasp was all but ceased and it was this combined with the rust that caused the slow release of the shoes, hence the temporary screeching.
All sorted now thanks to George’s video👍
@@bouncycastles1214 working on your car is good exercise
Great video. Thank you.
You're welcome!
kind off, the problem is that the parking brake cables are stretched over time - it is natural for 10 years old car, parking brake will hold very high unless you change the cables.
You do need to change the cables here's an old trick we used in garages in the 80s tie a knot in them
And by the way there's an adjustment under the handbrake
@@bystander1489 this is not adjustment this is only tensioning spring that when released allows you to change the cable.
Noice!!!! I'd give your rear subframe a once over looking abit rusty. Maybe a bit of paint. I got rust holes on mine gotta replace 😭
It’s on the list don’t worry... Plan is to drop it to powder coat it and replace all the bushes👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters nice, I got a second hand subframe. Gunna red oxide it, then epoxy paint it. I'm scared what else will need replacing 😨, rusts pretty bad, wheel carriers potentially. Dam UK salty roads 😒
My handbrake on my e61 has literally no tention, I already tighten the wheel at the back both sides with no luck. any ideas?
Always nice to see a good video like this great video man.
Great video mate. I've this problem on my E60. I've had the handbrake adjusted at the wheels recently but it made little difference. The handbrake itself will click about 4 times and after that I'm able to pull it all the way up and it drops back down to the 4th click. What do you reckon the problem is? possibly the spring mechanism on the handbrake itself?
Hard to say but well worth replacing the entire setup on each hub👍🏻
My 1 series failed an NCT/MOT today , parking brake imbalance. Should I do this job to fix it or is the adjuster dial the way to go, cheers
Yeah just reset and adjust your parking brake
Brilliant video, George! Thanks for doing parking brake videos, a neglected subject, but much needed.
Cheers Jon and thanks very much for the channel donation, it is much appreciated!
Learnt a lot of knowledge from your video. Thanks!
Glad to hear!
Done this recently on both my E38 and F07, and the TIS says no grease on the caliper guide pins, which are stainless and dont need it. Also all the bolts you touched have specified torque settings but no torque wrench?
Yes I’ve said many times that BMW recommend you not to use grease but I like to👍🏻
The funny thing is ... the BMW TIS manual says no grease BUT the people who actually manufacture these brakes (ATE) say to use red rubber grease.
Nailed it. Great one mate🙏!
Legend. Cheers Jiri!
Awesome. Too good. Btw have you trained as a mechanical engineering? Cuz u know what you doing .
My dad is a mechanical engineer so I’ve learned some things from him but most car stuff is self taught👍🏻
hi George great video tutorial as always however, if in the future I will search for a tutorial video related to handbrake - would ur vidoe pop up considering the title/video name? cheers man
I already have a couple videos related the handbrake now👍🏻
Nice one George great job!
Cheer Chris!
What style are the rims?
I have that handbreak problem on my 320d 2010 m sport . Actually hate the car tbh .🤦 Gonna sell in in January tho . Hate it 🤣🤣🤣
Get it sorted then!
@@GeorgeAusters I've put it in two garages but they say the breaks are fine. But they ain't . You have great knowledge and know more than most 👍
how many attempts on the lower spring? :)
A few
Amazing video 🔥
Cheers Willie!
Mine needs this 😂
Get her done!
did you serve your time as a mechanic ?
Nope
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Hope u make some money out of yours videos, they have helped me keep away from a bmw techican for years thank george
Glad to help Peter! I make some but not too much because I’m reinvesting a lot back into more content at the moment
in 67 years never used the parking brake on any vehicle I owned,
Thanx for wonderful info will do it just as soon as possible.
If you've owned a BMW for 10 years you better sell now
In my opinion it is a poor design. The simpler designs which work using the normal brake pads against the disc are more effective and more reliable.
You could say that, but then it’s more of a pain when it comes to replacing the pads on those types of calipers
I don't find it too bad, but on some of them you have to use a tool to wind back the piston.
clickbait-teaser is a no-go. Please use informative videotitles...
TH-cam is being very strange at the moment, views have dropped massively and when I put a "How to" title less people seem to watch so i've got to start being a bit more creative!
@@GeorgeAusters Ah I see. Seems to be working then :-D Annoying though not to know what the video is about. Maybe some more info in the description then? anyway, videos are great
Cheers Simon, yeah i'm still experimenting with things at the moment so some things may change
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Even when it works, it doesn't work. C'mon guys, does anyone even use the handbrake?
Pretty important in a manual car👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters I can respect that. Have a Auto. Enjoying your videos. Can you do a video on FRM module and how to resolve the issue where the reverse lights stop working on the e90.