Finally! Thank you for posting some dyno numbers and video to TH-cam. Helps people out to know some real world numbers. Please make a follow up video when you get some performance parts! Interested to see the difference an ecu and exhaust might do to the dyno numbers. Yoshimura makes some pretty good claims.
Would love to see what changes an ecu flash from 550 performance does, from a reputable company like yourself! Also, top speed is really dependent on wind. Haha.
@@durango008 Nah, that doesn’t do anything with timing. These motors will never make a lot of power, but they like aggressive timing. Which means having the stock ECU tuned. Plus less wiring, and one less thing to fail. Piggyback controllers need to stay in the 90s
Good stuff here!! I guess the innerwebz is correct; A stock 300L is everything that a full stage 1 kit does for a 250L. I've had several 250L's and they're great "kitted out". I only have a few hours on the 300L but would love to see a full stage 1 kit ( AND SUSPENSION ) on the 300L. These bikes are rippers!!!!
The difference between dyno top speed and real top speed is interesting! Ain't no way you can get to 107 mph on real riding situation with the wind and stuff but it's understandable. Thanks for the nice content I'm considering buying a crf300l !
An important factor to know would have been the weight of person on the bike during the dyno test and was he fully sitting on the bike or not? I did notice the bike compressed down but while he was shifting the other foot was on the ground. Just thought it was an important factor
At 50 I'm looking into getting one of these as a daily work and back bike, my trusty V-Strom is doing fine but it hates traffic riding, the girl is a bit bulky and heavy, I want to keep her for weekend long highway cruising, the Honda seems and looks like a full-size bike.
If you want this bike to be a daily through traffic consider that the exhaust routes really close to your right leg along with the downstram air from the radiator. Summer months may be a little uncomfortable. I would suggest doing a longer test ride before committing. Other than that this bike is super fun. A perfect blend of size and output.
I've done 10,000's km on standard 300la. Yes you can feel the warmth but it was never bad enough not to enjoy the ride! City riding she is ok if you don't care about getting cleaned up by an idiot they give licences to (big issue in Australia)
@@TSTindustries Hey, I just found out RC Hill is the Official HONDA DEMO Ride site for Daytona Bike Week 2022 . Doubt they will have dual sports to ride, but looking forward to checking it out. I want to ask a HONDA rep why there is no 2022 CRF300L model. I only see 2020 and 2021 on the HONDA website, which is weird because I see 2022 CRF450RL. If the 2022 CRF300L comes with upgraded suspension i will be at RC Hill a.s.a.p. with a deposit to order one.
For the intake mod. There’s a dude you 3D printed a pre-filter air box. Idk the performance increase, but I’d rather have a pre-filter for sandy conditions instead of a DNA filter.
I own one for about 8 months now (I'm from Belgium), and I can tell you this bike does not go to 105MPH on the road just like he tells. 136km/h = 84.5 MPH is the fastest i've gone with it, flat road no wind.
I have a 300 rally and weight 166 and my top speed has been 84 down slope. She does 70 that's not all I need I wanna do 80 comfy on a highway on a duel sport. still don't know why the drz motor is not updated with this type of set up in mind. I wanna try a ecu but I don't want to have to run high octane. 😫
Tyre choice and pressure too right?… I think they claim 27 (at flywheel) so sounds about right at wheel. Top speed in real life probably 85/90 in real world. Brutal no clutch up changes!!
We just turned the bike last week after installing a Yosh exhaust. We started playing around with ideas for what to do on the intake side for a product to develop. My question to you is, would you pay 75% of what an exhaust costs for an intake part that produces the same or more amount of performance than an exhaust? People are accustomed to paying 600-1000 dollars for an exhaust but many will say 450 is too much for an intake
Because the previous gens of the crf brought in a lot more interest and customers than the klx. After we get through a lot of this stuff on the crf we will likely move on to the klx anyway
At this moment it is waiting in line to be strapped back to the dyno so we can make a flash program and start selling that. We have our basic flash done with a quick tune we did just to start testing. Now we will go in there with a fine tooth comb and get it better so we can have a product for you guys out there. Recently we launnched an integrated tail light and fender eliminator combo for that bike and we already see good comments popping up on this part kit in public discussions.
@@paulburkey2 what sort of update would you like? We launched V0 of our integrated tail light/fender eliminator and will be following that up with improved V1 launch in a few weeks. We built a tune for stock bike+full exhaust and are now collecting data on the use of this tune on streets/trails, while R&D department is playing with some intake concepts. We also have a swingarm spool with adapter design somewhere close to being done and soon to be in production.
I don’t think I can post a comment with the link without it getting auto deleted for spam. But the Tail Tidy kit for the 250L y’all made is so amazing, and I’m wondering if your going to make one for the 300L or know if it’s a direct fit to the 300. This is the name of the product I’m talking about: TST LED INTEGRATED TAIL LIGHT AND FENDER ELIMINATOR FOR HONDA CRF250L / RALLY 2017+
Official top speed is 80mph but a stock crf300l will play around 70-80mph depending on the wind and stuff.. Some people get 90mph but with an exhaust, an ecu, gear ratio and different tires
Where the Grom falls short...or actually on its face....is the suspension travel in the dirt. I ride our Groms in the dirt a lot and the hard bottom on front and rear is dreadful. The L here handles that a lot nicer and more comfy. I can ride a really nice pace and not get to the bottom on the terrain I ride with the L.
do you mean a livery kit like we did for the Grom and Ninja 400? I have consideredd making that but those are such low demand items that we put them on back burner
Never in my life have I wasted $7300 + another $2300 on a bike. This thing is straight garage unless you plan to ride it like a Harley. It's a ROAD CRUISER!!!! As soon as you take it offroad it shits on you.
Went through all this with the KLX, would be shocked if you could get it above 27hp. I don't think chasing power is worth it on these bikes, spend it on suspension and tires. You can spend alot on getting disappointed, these bikes will never be real enduro bikes.
@@jakeviolet2195 modern enduro bikes aren't maintenance heavy, they are just a premium product. A CRF450RL with a Rekluse would probably be the closet thing you are talking about, with not much compromise, just choose your wheels and baggage. But the new bike cost with farkles is what creates these delusional budget bike fantasies...keep seeing it happen. But it's a fun process until you get to the end and start over lol.
@@rockyrode a 450RL...hardly. And if you are DS'ing a Beta 500 or 450EXCF and not thrashing it on the trail, then not much maintenance. The modern enduro bikes are very reliable, but anything ridden hard will need hard parts changed, but the motors are bulletproof.
@@jakeviolet2195 lol, book values are just that, and those figures are ridiculous and not realistic UNLESS YOU ARE RACING (enduro maintenance specs are based on competition use, not trail and road). Real world says otherwise but whatever....
I was really hoping for better.. Another TH-camr (Jake TheGardenSnake) put a bunch of time and money into his, and only got 24HP. I'm talking EVERYTHING! "Exhaust, ECU, Cams, Airbox, Emissions delete, and more" I'm guessing there just isn't very much hidden horsepower in these bikes. I personally would spend the money on suspension instead of mods, and send it. Spending thousands of dollars on 2 more horsepower is just silly. We would all be better just putting down the fork. Some 80lb Asian guy probably just went 109mph on his
Lighter, more powerful, and simpler through air cooling. You are right, that was a machine superior in several parameters. The suspension on the CRF is way better nowadays, but with some upgrades the XR could be close.
@TSTindustries the crf is not good enough as soon as someone makes a good 400 or 500 they will take the market over. Unfortunately these days we pay more for less . Bring back the drz 400e .
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Really looking forward to seeing what the Yoshimura exhaust does for dyno results! An ECU tune would be great to see as well!
Finally! Thank you for posting some dyno numbers and video to TH-cam. Helps people out to know some real world numbers. Please make a follow up video when you get some performance parts! Interested to see the difference an ecu and exhaust might do to the dyno numbers. Yoshimura makes some pretty good claims.
I'll stick with my street legal 2002 XR250R.
@@shockadellick I don't think anyone asked you.
That's some brutal firepower, 23hp!
Got to love how break in ends at 300 miles and recommends no rapid acceleration or revs over 6k 😂
A Honda 150r has 25hp.. 23hp on a bike that weights that much isn’t fast
always love when you cover bikes i own. My first bike was an mt-03, and i just picked up a crf300l to compliment my dirt adventures
Would love to see what changes an ecu flash from 550 performance does, from a reputable company like yourself!
Also, top speed is really dependent on wind. Haha.
Yes please!
Or with EJK fuel controller
@@durango008 Nah, that doesn’t do anything with timing. These motors will never make a lot of power, but they like aggressive timing. Which means having the stock ECU tuned.
Plus less wiring, and one less thing to fail. Piggyback controllers need to stay in the 90s
Good stuff here!!
I guess the innerwebz is correct; A stock 300L is everything that a full stage 1 kit does for a 250L. I've had several 250L's and they're great "kitted out". I only have a few hours on the 300L but would love to see a full stage 1 kit ( AND SUSPENSION ) on the 300L. These bikes are rippers!!!!
Wow! Great material! We are waiting! Really interesting to see, how this mods affecting on performance.
The difference between dyno top speed and real top speed is interesting! Ain't no way you can get to 107 mph on real riding situation with the wind and stuff but it's understandable. Thanks for the nice content I'm considering buying a crf300l !
An important factor to know would have been the weight of person on the bike during the dyno test and was he fully sitting on the bike or not? I did notice the bike compressed down but while he was shifting the other foot was on the ground.
Just thought it was an important factor
Are you joking? You understand it isn't actually moving... so that makes zero difference...
At 50 I'm looking into getting one of these as a daily work and back bike, my trusty V-Strom is doing fine but it hates traffic riding, the girl is a bit bulky and heavy, I want to keep her for weekend long highway cruising, the Honda seems and looks like a full-size bike.
If you want this bike to be a daily through traffic consider that the exhaust routes really close to your right leg along with the downstram air from the radiator. Summer months may be a little uncomfortable. I would suggest doing a longer test ride before committing. Other than that this bike is super fun. A perfect blend of size and output.
I've done 10,000's km on standard 300la. Yes you can feel the warmth but it was never bad enough not to enjoy the ride! City riding she is ok if you don't care about getting cleaned up by an idiot they give licences to (big issue in Australia)
I will be buying this bike very soon. Live in Volusia County. Cant wait to buy your parts. Thanks for supporting this platform.
Heck yea! I hope you will be bringing your business to our friends over at RC Hill Honda. If you are, please ask for Jim Mitchell
@@TSTindustries Hey, I just found out RC Hill is the Official HONDA DEMO Ride site for Daytona Bike Week 2022 . Doubt they will have dual sports to ride, but looking forward to checking it out. I want to ask a HONDA rep why there is no 2022 CRF300L model. I only see 2020 and 2021 on the HONDA website, which is weird because I see 2022 CRF450RL. If the 2022 CRF300L comes with upgraded suspension i will be at RC Hill a.s.a.p. with a deposit to order one.
For the intake mod. There’s a dude you 3D printed a pre-filter air box. Idk the performance increase, but I’d rather have a pre-filter for sandy conditions instead of a DNA filter.
Highest speed i hit was 154kmh & 153knh on way back. Stock as rock in Australia so led lights & abs fitted
Looking forward to more dyno results. 👍
Will definitely follow this project
I own one for about 8 months now (I'm from Belgium), and I can tell you this bike does not go to 105MPH on the road just like he tells. 136km/h = 84.5 MPH is the fastest i've gone with it, flat road no wind.
As mentioned in the video, the top speed read was on the dyno with no wind and no rider weight. It may change on an open-road with wind and a rider.
Pretty good looking bike. What are the valve adjustment intervals?
Once every lifetime.
16,000 miles
This bike was the reason I hated the 450l lol. I done almost 9000km in 5 months so stuff the short service intervals vs never having to check
I have a 300 rally and weight 166 and my top speed has been 84 down slope. She does 70 that's not all I need I wanna do 80 comfy on a highway on a duel sport. still don't know why the drz motor is not updated with this type of set up in mind. I wanna try a ecu but I don't want to have to run high octane. 😫
Same here 85
Looking forward to this build! Keep it up guys!
Doesn't Honda claim about 30hp for the crf300l? You got 23.6?
What Honda claims is at the crank and not rear wheel. Each Dyno also measures differently so that may be at play as well
Tyre choice and pressure too right?… I think they claim 27 (at flywheel) so sounds about right at wheel. Top speed in real life probably 85/90 in real world. Brutal no clutch up changes!!
Did you have a heavy vibration at 7200 rpm’s, if so is it healthy to run it that range?
I don't remember having any symptome that felt outside of normal for the conditions. Not on the dyno, or road, or in the dirt.
Can you do this demo again with a tuner/ecu reflash and exhaust
That is in the plans. We will be developing some intake parts and a flash to go along with the Yosh exhaust. Runs and results will be shown on video.
Have y’all done a dyno with the dyno jet tune and a exhaust? Or any dyno with performance parts?
We just turned the bike last week after installing a Yosh exhaust. We started playing around with ideas for what to do on the intake side for a product to develop. My question to you is, would you pay 75% of what an exhaust costs for an intake part that produces the same or more amount of performance than an exhaust? People are accustomed to paying 600-1000 dollars for an exhaust but many will say 450 is too much for an intake
How does it compare to a ktm 300 xc-w 2022
Need some dyno comparisons with different exhausts. Have heard mixed impressions about several offerings.
Yoshi exhaust dyno pleaseeee
As soon as Yoshi delivers the exhaust here. We ordered several of them but they have not been delivered yet.
You say this process is an adventure. What else could you expect on an adventure bike?😜
Why did you guys choose the crf instead of the klx?
Because the previous gens of the crf brought in a lot more interest and customers than the klx. After we get through a lot of this stuff on the crf we will likely move on to the klx anyway
that's a nice power curve. thanks for the video
No problem 👍
what's happening with the CRF300L?
At this moment it is waiting in line to be strapped back to the dyno so we can make a flash program and start selling that. We have our basic flash done with a quick tune we did just to start testing. Now we will go in there with a fine tooth comb and get it better so we can have a product for you guys out there. Recently we launnched an integrated tail light and fender eliminator combo for that bike and we already see good comments popping up on this part kit in public discussions.
@@TSTindustries cant wait too see this and what mods you have,id be happy to pay money for a good product
@@TSTindustries we need some 300L updates
@@paulburkey2 what sort of update would you like? We launched V0 of our integrated tail light/fender eliminator and will be following that up with improved V1 launch in a few weeks. We built a tune for stock bike+full exhaust and are now collecting data on the use of this tune on streets/trails, while R&D department is playing with some intake concepts. We also have a swingarm spool with adapter design somewhere close to being done and soon to be in production.
@@TSTindustries Dyno tune numbers and power upgrades are what I'm interested in.
Are these turn signals your BL6 led signals? Interested in them for my 250L
yes, those are the ones you see on this bike
I don’t think I can post a comment with the link without it getting auto deleted for spam. But the Tail Tidy kit for the 250L y’all made is so amazing, and I’m wondering if your going to make one for the 300L or know if it’s a direct fit to the 300.
This is the name of the product I’m talking about: TST LED INTEGRATED TAIL LIGHT AND FENDER ELIMINATOR FOR HONDA CRF250L / RALLY 2017+
The 250 model will not readily work with 300 but we are working towards a specific kit for the 300
105? Top speed?
Official top speed is 80mph but a stock crf300l will play around 70-80mph depending on the wind and stuff.. Some people get 90mph but with an exhaust, an ecu, gear ratio and different tires
can you do a crf250F model on the dyno?
If someone brings one in we can do that
Very nice . Thank you for the good info .
Imagine actually going 105+ on those wheels.
downhill maybe 😁
Must be nice to have a 20-25hp honda Grom
Where the Grom falls short...or actually on its face....is the suspension travel in the dirt. I ride our Groms in the dirt a lot and the hard bottom on front and rear is dreadful. The L here handles that a lot nicer and more comfy. I can ride a really nice pace and not get to the bottom on the terrain I ride with the L.
hi host. in hooked on this channel,make and model. great job.
TST Industries sticker pack, when?
do you mean a livery kit like we did for the Grom and Ninja 400? I have consideredd making that but those are such low demand items that we put them on back burner
Awesome 👍
Never in my life have I wasted $7300 + another $2300 on a bike. This thing is straight garage unless you plan to ride it like a Harley. It's a ROAD CRUISER!!!! As soon as you take it offroad it shits on you.
Went through all this with the KLX, would be shocked if you could get it above 27hp. I don't think chasing power is worth it on these bikes, spend it on suspension and tires. You can spend alot on getting disappointed, these bikes will never be real enduro bikes.
@@jakeviolet2195 modern enduro bikes aren't maintenance heavy, they are just a premium product. A CRF450RL with a Rekluse would probably be the closet thing you are talking about, with not much compromise, just choose your wheels and baggage. But the new bike cost with farkles is what creates these delusional budget bike fantasies...keep seeing it happen. But it's a fun process until you get to the end and start over lol.
@@infidelmat 450 is pretty maintenance heavy in comparison lol
@@rockyrode a 450RL...hardly. And if you are DS'ing a Beta 500 or 450EXCF and not thrashing it on the trail, then not much maintenance. The modern enduro bikes are very reliable, but anything ridden hard will need hard parts changed, but the motors are bulletproof.
@@jakeviolet2195 lol, book values are just that, and those figures are ridiculous and not realistic UNLESS YOU ARE RACING (enduro maintenance specs are based on competition use, not trail and road). Real world says otherwise but whatever....
@@infidelmat service schedule seems to think otherwise. They must have gotten it wrong at the print shop. I'll let them know.
I was really hoping for better.. Another TH-camr (Jake TheGardenSnake) put a bunch of time and money into his, and only got 24HP. I'm talking EVERYTHING! "Exhaust, ECU, Cams, Airbox, Emissions delete, and more" I'm guessing there just isn't very much hidden horsepower in these bikes. I personally would spend the money on suspension instead of mods, and send it. Spending thousands of dollars on 2 more horsepower is just silly. We would all be better just putting down the fork. Some 80lb Asian guy probably just went 109mph on his
Exactly
yoshimura exhaust before and after a tune would be a cool video:-)
Yeah...that is coming. We have the exhaust here in my office already
Oof, 15hp at 5000rpm. I've seen more powerful 125s.
And I can guarantee those 125s were not stock. This is a completely stock bike with no performance parts.
19 half lakh in nepal
The CRF300L is just a gutless commuter bike... Nothing else. It has absolute garbage suspension and brakes. What were honda thinking with this pile
Bring back the xr400 they ran rings arount the crf
Lighter, more powerful, and simpler through air cooling. You are right, that was a machine superior in several parameters. The suspension on the CRF is way better nowadays, but with some upgrades the XR could be close.
@TSTindustries the crf is not good enough as soon as someone makes a good 400 or 500 they will take the market over. Unfortunately these days we pay more for less . Bring back the drz 400e .
Sounds absolutely amazing wtf 😬😱
why wtf?
@@TSTindustries it just took me by surprise how good it sounds!
@@Harnishchappy it is not loud, but it is surprisingly satisfying.