Rimworld : Kitchen, Food, Nutrition, Poisoning and Cooking: Tutorial Nuggets
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มี.ค. 2021
- A relatively quick guide tutorial on food, the topic is unfortunately a bit large when you start digging into it. The main take always are, fine meals are a solid choice, lavish meals are a mood booster. Nutrient paste is cheap risk free just hurts your moral. Cook with a dirt floor early on and you drastically lower your risk of food poisoning and have a cook with level 8 cooking.
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"And you can turn milk into a simple meal, I have no idea how that works"
Probably just making cheese.
Wait until he realises that the colonists don't need to go to the bathroom. Ever.
@@mirjanbouma thats why hygiene mod exist :^)
I Imagine a pawn doing a gallon challenge every time they "eat" a milk meal
@@halo007Mex ha! True!
@@eddyvluggen I cook milk to make mozzarella cheese. I do add citric acid and rennet to make it curd.
"lavish meals are rarely used" apparently I've been spoiling my colony..
It's just Francis' utilitarian nature at work.
Food is practically infinite so there's little reason not to cook lavish meals if you can. The higher your mood, the more inspirations you get.
infinite until Randy doesn't feel like it anymore lol
That's why you stockpile some extra, in case of a Randy day. :P
Lavish meals are great, my only problem is that i need to dedicate half of my colony for food production. I need 3~4chefs and 4 colonist (to take care of animals and the farm) to sustain 16ppl colony
Just a little nitpick: You mention that chocolate and insect jelly gives chemical recreation. That's incorrect. They actually give food recreation which is a different type of recreation altogether. This makes them much more interesting because it means using chocolate for recreation won't lower the effectiveness of drugs for recreation.
Ooh, so he could have stacked insect jelly and drugs instead of double dosing on drugs. TMIL.
@@r3dp9 hUh.
@@JoshSweetvale his pawn must have OD
Jim: Hey Rob what'd ya get for lunch today?
Rob: Oh it's just a bit of rice, muffalo, and potatoes. Looks pretty good, can't wait to try it.
Jim: Nice.
Rob: So what'd you get?
Jim: _-Looks down at his giant ass bowl of milk_
Uh, yeah pretty much the same thing.
I like to imagine they mix up and make some butter/cheese off the milk, though I know it doesn't work like that.
Lmfao
Better than poor Barcai. He experienced minor malnutrition which led to eating a cougar and human raw.
@@gianluigijequinto hate it when that happens, tastes like iron.
@@joelfilho2625 I imagine is as some kind of pudding or something
Fun fact, a butcher table actually has an inherent negative cleanliness value! That's why the clean butcher room was -1.54, compared to the kitchen, even thought they both had the same floor
Makes sense, the bloody table where you chop up corpses would be a bit of a blemish on the cleanliness of your room.
I kept looking for where the mess was lol
Really wish there was a mod that allowed you to set mood percentages that your pawns would eat different types of food, much like drugs. Also a schedule for food would be great. Alternating Lavish and Fine foods for double benefits would be super powerful. Restricting Lavish meals for only those about to break would go a long way in keeping your pawns sane.
Surprised nobody has made such a mod, considering we have almost everything else in mod form.
Saving this comments until I find a mod for this
@@hurricanestarang rimmsqol does exactly this.
I recommend using the doormats mod so you can have your pawns clean their feet to avoid tracking dirt in as soon as you have the leather or cloth(with carpets researched) to make some floormats
Insect Jelly is actually also the only reliable way to survive early on in a no cannibalism ice sheet naked tribal start (which is very fun if you haven't tried it). Wait until the insects fall asleep each night, sneak in and take the Jelly, repeat until you have some sort of food production going like hydroponics.
If you have a pawn with the Ascetic trait, they prefer raw food and several of these tips don't apply or stack differently. Edge case, sure, but worth noting.
Nice Tutorial, pawns can eat Kibble too. Its recommended for extreme situations only. Also it does not go off.
Only make kibble instead of pemmican if hay is all you got. Or if you absolutely can't spend the extra time cooking it. Hay grows faster, but with the better nutrition gain of pemmican it's better to grow Rice and make pemmican, because you will save on meat
For the nutrient past meal trick, an even faster way to do it is to create a one tile zone in the center tile (where pawns can't actually walk) of the paste dispenser and zone pawns there when they are hungry. As soon as they grab the meal just hold R (the draft button) and they will continuously create and drop meals until the meals run out of space and end up back on the hopper. This is much easier on the hands then clicking and forbidding each meal individually.
what! i forgot about the tutorial series i am so hooked up on the lets play
The ONI tutorials is what drew me to Fancis' channel, but definitely hooked on the play throughs now 😆
Don't underestimate lavish meals. Assuming you have the resources and a cook with a burning passion, they're excellent.
First, the fine and lavish meal bonuses stack, so if you make the right amount of meals (about half the number of lavish as fine) you can get +17 regularly. In a well-run colony this generates lots of inspirations. I play on losing is fun with just a handful of mods (vgp vegetable garden, seeds please, and UI mods) and mental breaks are a rarity. High mood = tactical options = less defensive infrastructure = lower wealth = weaker raids.
Second, (again, if you have the resources and time), more cooking time = more training for your cook(s), which means 1) they'll never break since they have a burning passion, 2) they're able to produce trade goods (beer, joints, survival meals) more quickly.
Third, you don't have to be hungry to eat. Want a +12 moodlet with no chance of addiction/consciousness/manipulation hit? Chow down on a lavish meal.
Finally, positive moodlets from art and fancy rooms come at the cost of raising your wealth. Raising your wealth raises expectations (lowering moods) and raid strength. You can run a poor colony and get the moderate expectations bonus AND lavish meal bonus without increasing raid strength.
Yeah I find making those as a nice dump of too much if I get it sometimes (oh no, fridge too full, 3 rhinoes died on traps D:) and such. Just suspend thier making when food is normal. Or if someone is super down, combined with giving drugs :O
I always try to make lavish meals if I can safely make more meals than are being eaten. The mood boost is worth the extra effort
I only play on striving to survive. but 100% the lavish meals are a buff.
When i first started i used to stock pile joins for that, now i just keep 20 of them around
someones about to break, feed their faces.
@@OhNoTheFace I have a mod that gives me a "build if stockpile is over X" and I set a bill to cook lavish meals when it gets over a certain amount. Helps with kepeing the freezer moderatey stocked.
lavish meal! as soon as I get a good source of milk/eggs and fruits unlocked I change the menu from "dogmeat with rice" to "fruit salad"
I always imagine that cooked milk in this game is custard, and a fine meal of milk and berries is a kind of fruit compote and custard.
Custard requires eggs. It would be a plain yogurt if prepared from just milk
@@gman1515 good point.
would have said you cheese your meal when you just use milk
Cottage cheese requires nothing more than milk.
You can eat it with sour cream, which is also made from milk.
So here's a simple dish made from one ingredient - Milk - cottage cheese with sour cream.
And yes, yogurt is, in general, also a food made from milk.
One note: Stockpiling packaged survival meals is very smart but they are quite valuable and having too much, or way too much, packed away can effect the colony value leading to bigger raids for no good reason.
Bigger raids = more chemfuel and hats.
Colony value affects raids? No wonder I have 200 man raids
@@donecoin33 Yes, massively. And pawns have value too.
@@donecoin33 If I'm not mistaken packaged meals are almost 3x worth as much as a bar of gold.
Not an issue if you have 50 plus cataphract archotech pawns😂
0:48 - Butchering table as an object by itself makes room dirtier.
You forgot to say that the nutrient paste meals spoils a lot faster than any other food... 17 hours i believe... you should keep it frozen at all times, and if you stack a lot of them (i do that to feed animals) and a solar flare occurs, they can all dissapear in less than one day if your freezer is not cold enough or sealed early enough
Seeing the kitchen layouts start to include Chef's bed was pretty great. 😆
"Food actually behaves more like a drug than you think" can confirm 😂
Remember that if you have a level 4 cook on a dirt floor you have a 30% chance for each pawn to get food poisoning per season. It goes down to 3% with a level 8 cook.
Very nice tutorial series so far. I have many, MANY hours in Rimworld and a couple times in your videos I've said outloud "Oh so that's how that mechanic really works".
Thank you for looking into all of this and explaining it in an easy to understand way for everyone!
Francis, milk is just like potatoes. You can cook it and get many different delicious meals out of it.
Cooked milk could be cheese, it could be "baked milk", if you have sugar it could be dulche de leche
Appealing to his Irish roots, I see!
@@kahlzun Yogurt! Huge staple for many cultures.
I love the tutorial series! Highly informative as always
Nice tutorial Francis. Despite 700 plus hours in RimWorld I did not know Pawns could spread the dirt from stepping on it, let alone know that trash only starts showing up after you make floors.
Awesome in-depth look at the topic. Great!
i really love this tutorial nuggets, they give a lot of information in very simple and concise way ^^
Amazing video as always, very in depth and still easy to understand
Your charming high quality videos keep my fascination with RimWorld burning
Nice tutorial. Some additional info I've found and might be useful:
1. Pemmican is meat & veggie, can't use animal product
2. If I do tribal run (which is my default) I make 5 fine meal/ pawn then turn all left over meat into pemmican for sale this way no need to worry about lack of fridge for a long time
3. You can train up cooking skill by making tea and I think smoke leaf joint also trains cooking.
So this explains why I was constantly running out of food!
I had my chef making 30 meals and then stopping, under the assumption that for 5 colonists, that was more than enough of a stockpile to trickle back up when the chef had free time.
It of course did not last remotely as long because they eat double what I had assumed they do.
Really like these kind of tutorial.
Very well thought out. Couple of notes: the Common Sense mod will only have them clean a small amount before using the room, so if it’s really dirty then it will still be at least a slightly dirty.
For chocolate, the Underground Food mod is great. You can build an indoor farm and just farm year round without worry about toxic fog or fire.
i have over 500 hpurs on rimworld...and didn't know all of them. thanks
Dude, two observations:
One: are you Tynan? I mean... pretty much only the developer at the game should know this many details.
Two: When are we going to see the Francis John Game? I can hear the trailer now: "Are you tired of games where you can win? Did you think Rimworld on 5 billion difficulty with Randy AND Cassandra combined was too easy? Wait until you see the game where it's just You vs Francis John. You will lose, but you'll love it so much you go back to lose again."
Well, I've never seen FJ and Tynan in the same room... 🤔🤯
@@mirjanbouma I did once, but it was through the magic of videah. ;)
You can hear Tynan talk in some of his videos. They are different people. (I know you're joking, but for the sake of people who seriously wonder I thought I'd spell it out).
Many developers actually know less about the complex interactions in their game than hardcore players.
Another great presentation!
FJ, You make the best rimworld tutorials out there. I have like 1500 hours in rimworld and I STILL learned several things from this tutorial.
You should make tutorials explaining other aspects of the game, like psycasts, wealth management for higher difficulties, drugs, etc.
Thanks for proving the 'picking up dirt' rules. I always thought this was how it worked but others believe dirt is RNG generated on floored tiles but not on natural tiles and doesn't track through to other tiles which i never understood as you can see it happening with blood and insect goo
How the hell do I have 300 hours in this game and I haven't heard any of this before? Madness.
Fantastic video. Thanks.
amazingly informative video man! cheers
imagine my glee when my favorite ONI sherpa is now my new favorite RW sherpa.
I say "aaaaand we're back" in my day to day life because of you!
Thank you for all the help across my favorite games, Francis!!
Awesome video as always
Good analysis. Thx
Nice guide :) I always forget about nutrient paste.. but good to have when food is short.
I'm surprised, given your love of numbers I thought this would be testing on how room cleanliness affects food poisoning percentage, complete with Excel spreadsheets
So basically in the next episode of the wizards, there will be struggle with food supply?
That’s what I took it as, prolly preemptive to a bunch of ill informed or curious comments next episode.
The complexity of rimworld never ceases to amaze me.
I love your videos so muchhhhhhhh
Very informative as always FJ.
much appreciated 🔥
Am interested to see a base design guide. I know you've made one previously but you know variety :)
P. S a base that's optimized for productivity is fun to watch.
AAh, I thought this was going to continue the wizards insanity play through.
Nope, seems like he needed a break to destress. Can't blame the poor guy.
The small penalty to mood for the nutrient paste can be offset with a couple pieces of art scattered around your base.
I love the nutrient paste dispenser, it lets me get an artist early for more money to get myself in trouble with as my colony base wealth skyrockets and I get huge nasty invasions that kill me much earlier... Hmm, I may need to rethink this.
Table dinner is amazing! That's a mandatory mod for me.
Super helpful thanks!
I shall show this to the sanitation authorities and demand they let me reopen my restaurant!
13:34 you originally wanted to say that survival meals are like simple ones(which is the case), but then said that they're like fine and give +5 mood. Perhaps a brain fart?
Useful ta. I've got a kitchen, but I have a floor less freezer, I didnt know about the dirt
Very useful guide especially on when pawns get hungry and how much nutrition they consume. I always thought pemmican was superior to survivial meals due to the work and amount of nutrition produced, but it’s a good idea that I should invest in when my colony of 5 goes to 2 and I suddenly have more food that I know what to do with.
A pleasant surprise!
On the dirt mechanics; one of my colonies was saved from a fiery ending because the raiders opened my animal pen after throwing molotovs into it, and they (both my animals and the raiders) ended up spreading the contents of the ensuing firefoam popper around my colony via the dirt mechanic, slowing the other fires enough for me to finish off the pirates.
Wondering if we can get an updated 1.4 version with the new meal types & maybe good food policies to use like your drugs video. Thanks for all your efforts. 🍗
Thanks 👍
I'm glad you mentioned "Common Sense" because I recommended it once on a different video lmao
Awesome vid man! Pretty informative.
(i legit had to see if i had the video speed at 1.5 or what, sometimes was hard to follow you for a non-native english speaker, lol)
I do not consider outsmarting AIs fun.
But some content is interresting. Thanks brother from another world!
Thanks! Here's one for the algorithm!
Helpful
You know milk can be made into cheese... and kefir... yogurt... Ice cream's not REALLY a meal, but, you know... whey protein... You can extract the casein...
Also, love the ice sheet challenge!
really love these guides, i also make rimworld videos so it nice to see the tips and trick from vet players
Thanks. I'm using nutrition paste dispenser for prisoners. My pawns don't waste time to feed them. Prisoners taking a meal whenever they are hungry. Some statues for prisoners and the debuff is gone 😏
"One MASSIVE downside is they have a BIG mood penalty: -4 mood"
Me: Okay... and where is the big mood penalty?
Any negative mood thing is bad...
@@bruhder5854 -4 is a diminute mood penalty. You can counter it easily just by having a nice bedroom, rec room or even just by being in a comfortable chair
@@babyseal_5 yes but only if things aren't going chaotic which, well you know how rimworld is :)
You can tell who plays on higher difficulties by their reaction to the "ate without table" and similar debuffs.
@@Wourghk Yep. When mood hovers naturally around 32 even with a decent bedroom, due to sickness, dead relatives, dead pets, painful scars, psychic drones, or any other nonsense, that -3 penalty is the straw that breaks the camels back.
Thank you for the great and detailed explanation!
Does the dirt floor clean mechanic is the same in v1.3.3159 (current)?
turns out keeping 75 elephants as gaurd dogs also works really well when you need meat for meals lmao
the paste dispenser is the mvp of my early game colonies. by having a impressive dinning+ recreation room it offsets the mood penalty and in turn you free up almost 2 pawns. not only does no one has to cook, your plant boy has less work to do and no one is ever going to get food poisoning making the colony very stable as long as you dont have mood problems.
helps that mr dispenser cant get shot in a raid too and having terrible manipulation for half a week --> more food poisoning.
John: I have no idea how he turns milk into a simple meal.
Answer: He most likely makes it into anything from just a block of cheese to icecream.
It's more that he does it using a wood powered grill. Though I would not mind the ability to produce cheese in game.
@@FrancisJohnYT one of the greatest benefits of cheese is its ability to last a long time, which would be very useful on the rim.
Also, while I have you here, would it be beneficial to remove the limbs/organs of meat mood beacons to reduce their value as a colonist to raids?
@@yomanyo327 Well yes but no. You don't want to take a kidney as that reduces their immunity gain. Taking their limbs reduces the value of the pawn but every operation no matter how good has a 2% chance to fail. I'm not willing to risk the investment in all those brain implants just to reduce the colony wealth by a little bit.
The recreation bonus from insect jelly is nice but it's important to note the diminishing returns. You can't do the same recreation activity every day. So caravans won't actually benefit much on long distance trips.
To defeat the dirt, I must study the dirty. I must become the dirt. - Rim Chef
as soon as you said dirt floor.. I checked to see if this was uploaded on april1st
With Ideology, Paste dispensers are even more ridiculously good. Transhumanists can utterly ignore the mood penalty.
i'm pretty sure Survival meals does does not give you +5 mood.
Yeah i think that was removed a little ways back but its still useful to make for traveling if you need to go long distances and cant use pemmican
"cook milk up into a simple meal" FJ never had pudding before
I think the Japanese have a foodstuff that is essentially gelatinous milk cubes, slightly sweetened, sometimes fried. Could be similar to what the RimWorld chefs are creating?
that thing with the cows and the nutrient past dispenser sounds interesting i think i will try this to feed my farm animals. well it still is not an option for my colonist since i dont intend to put their standard meal below lavish but this way i can maybe stop produce kibble. does hey work for this food dispenser too? thanks for the video.
Hay does not work in the paste dispenser unfortunately.
Ones that do all the meat types, regular vegies, fruit, eggs, insect jelly and Milk.
Major cooking pedantry warning :P
You could turn that milk into cheese. Then brown up two slices of cheese till it's hard and crispy. Then put a third slice of cheese between those two and stick the whole thing in a low oven or microwave to melt it... Actual grilled cheese :P
Or just drop lumps of cheese into a deep fryer, if you don't want to be fancy.
"How would you make a simple meal out of milk? How would you make nutrient paste out of milk?" Are you not familiar with yogurt, Francis? It's one of the more common simple meals on earth, and plain yogurt may be the closest thing we have to nutrient paste.
I have made yogurt and it takes the guts of a day to make, also it was not very tasty. Their is no way your making that stuff up on a stove in under an hour. Could also be cheese if you go that route, though I think their is a bunch of by products from cheese that is not used.
@@FrancisJohnYT Yeah, liberties have to be taken. We can head canon that we're only seeing parts of the process. I'm milking musk oxen, so I'll say it's the yak glop they eat in the 'stans (Kazak, Uzbek, Turkmen, etc). By all accounts it is indeed an awful meal.
@@FrancisJohnYT you cant butcher an entire buffalo sitting on the ground with a knife by yourself in an hour either. The game makes exceptions for these things
Other uses for using insect meat if you're not lacking for food:
1. Packaged survival meals (for sale or emergency)
2. Biofuel
3. Kibble
I'm running a colony with 180 pawns, we started cooking the insect meat into the fine meals just to stretch our food supplies.
Thx now i know why i get food poisoning
Paste is good, probably the best option overall despite the debuff. You can work around the mood hit, even on the highest difficulty. 0 chance of food poisoning and no cook time are both huge. The latter is a substantial portion of a pawn's day, usually more than 10% of your entire productive output and for low-pawn colonies much more. Less food production in the first place saves labor too. Lots of hidden costs that make paste even better than it first appears.
It is great, but it's hard to turn down the mood boost. Paste is -4 and fine is +5. That extra 9 mood can be clutch.
Also your cooks get faster and more efficient so this does help as the game gets later. Though I will say early game the paste dispenser is very powerful.
With a good refrigerator setup you can make 150 fine meals in a day.
I actually don't care to use pemmican, loose food items seem to dry up in supply *super* fast, meaning much more work for your cooks, in addition colonists will often eat too little food when eating loose foods, as they decide to eat 14 when they go to eat but in travel time they end up needing 16 by the time they actually sit down to eat their 14 milk for instance. Especially if there are Teenage pawns in the colony this can lead to random starvation despite everyone eating more or less well.
This same philosophy applies to Kibble which I know some people prefer to use for Ascetics or animal feed but quite frankly I find hay a better livestock feed and if you use Colony Manager in addition to a freezer for instance keeping meat in stock for carnivores isn't terribly difficult.
You can make a full meal out of milk by Turing it into cheese.
(I came over from your ice sheet episode3, where you mentioned this)
The most recent cheese comment was already a month old so this feels like perfect timing :)
5:45
I like to imagine they make it into cheese :D
Tutorial? Oh boy, did the Munchkins die?
Cheers Francis.
Thank you for the tutorial. Make a weapons and armor tutorial also
Weapons testing th-cam.com/video/fFjPzn_NNAg/w-d-xo.html
Armour testing th-cam.com/video/hrHp3yjLwik/w-d-xo.html
what does muse a dirt floor mean?
14:00 specifically a dining chair? I assume there's no reason for a stool not to work, right?
Oh man i didnt think to unfloor my kitchen i usually store my stove in the lab for the sterile bonus for that too >.> and i always have my researxhers just manually clean before the cook starts which I guess is a lot of micro... Might save me a ton of time
you can have veggie fine meals too, I think with milk and vegs
How quickly does nutrition go down?
I've got a large stack of rice stored, and I'm considering stopping it from growing since I don't want too much in excess, but i don't actually know how much is needed
Each animal has different nutrition requirement a humans is 1.6 Nutrition/Day. Each simple meal provides 0.9 nutrition.
However pawns want to eat when nutrition hits about 0.3 so plan for two meals a day with some redundancy built in.
Another option is to over produce raw food and then sell the excess when a bulk goods trader passes by.
5:27 what mod is that?
It's funny that you can't imagine how to make a dish out of milk, but you can imagine how you can make a complete dish out of berries.
Cottage cheese is an excellent complete simple dish made from milk.