Building the same one too! Not fully decided on the head yet, Dragon HF probably. Still,, another couple of months before I can become a proud owner! This tool head looks very good along with the EBB36 CAN. So, had to order one too :). Good luck with the build!
I run the dragon burner on my V0.1 too, it's a decent design. I will say this about it though, the cad files are off a bit. When I opened them to make a few adjustments, I noticed faces that should have been parallel, and weren't. Things were a little out of alignment. No problem for anyone just printing off and using it, but if you want to edit this a bit it's almost worth a total re-model.
been using it for a while now pretty good however, i now have ditched that for the cpap tool head from chirpy, printing 800mm/s and 70k accel requires alot of more cooling than these 4010 fans can provide
i wish the instructions on the github where a bit more complete, how long are the screws needed, how long of PTFE etc, ll figure out able, but nice to not have to
The length of the PTFE tube depends on which extruder and which hotend you're using, every combination will be different. you'll need to measure the depth that the tube inserts into the bottom of your extruder, and ensure exactly that much sticks out the top of the extruder mount when it's fully inserted.
We haven't had any issues with it on any of our machines that are currently running DragonBurner. We're going to be testing a new design by hartk out this week though!
The blower fans are spliced together into a single fan header (typically). Some of the newer toolhead boards have 3 fan headers with 2 shared so you don't need to do this either! Hope that helps.
Where can I find the strain relief pcb mount - used in this video? 🙏🏻 My motor mount is skewed (Sherpa Zero), and therefore the normal mount, would make the pcb out of angle...
That's a custom one we made for the vz-hextrudort, It hasn't been uploaded anywhere yet, but I'll take a look at the sherpa zero and see if I can adapt it to that extruder.
@@MapleLeafMakers Hi, have you posted your vz hextrudort strain relief anywhere yet? really struggling with trying out different ones for my setup and yours would be perfect!
I'm really struggling with this! I cannot figure out what parts I need for klickyNG for a cruciable v0 build. Nothing makes sense in the cad or github. How does it all go together? what does the tool head pick up? The dragon burner klickyNG shroud doesn't look like it has any thing to do with the official klickyNG.
I don't know anything about klickyNG, but as far as the DragonBurner is concerned, ONLY the cowl changes for the different probes, everything else is the same.
The hextrudort is great, there was a visible print quality improvement, which I assume is due to the CNC drive gear mostly. DragonBurner will be on both of our V0s for the forseeable future too. Even setting aside the cooling improvements, it's got a ton of features packed into a tiny space. I have zero complaints.
we've found the 9500 ones provide more than enough cooling for our purposes, but that's mostly printing ABS in an enclosed chamber at "normal" speeds. if you're doing a lot of pla, or printing really fast you might benefit from that upgrade.
I noticed the Github said it no longer support the V0.1 carriage. Is there still a version there that does? If so, which version is it, please? I'd like to get my V0.1 working before I think about going to V0.2...
There's a folder full of 'old versions' in the repository, I think V4 was the last to support the 0.1 X carriage: github.com/chirpy2605/voron/tree/main/V0/Dragon_Burner/Old_Versions/v4
Don't quote me on this, but I think it might actually pre-date the XOL2. it's been on github since November but it started life as a tinkercad project quite some time before that.
@@MapleLeafMakers I'm glad these smaller toolheads are out there. The Stealthburner seems too big. I'm going with the XOL2 since it's adapted to the Double Folder Ascender.
hmm good timing Im about to smash this lgx lite toolhead to pieces with a hammer and I am half way done modeling my own toolhead. Ill have to look at this more, the main lgx lite toolhead for the v0 is actually really terrible to work on and really not designed well for printing. Though the lgx lite has the filament running really close to the front of the extruder theres actually room for a 5015 fan infront of it in the same footprint as the miniafterburner.
plenty of toolhead options in the "printers for ants" world. when you recommend it, that option jumps to the top of the list. thanks!
Hope you like it as much as we do!
This has been my favorite V0 toolhead for awhile, been using it since its first iteration. Chirpy has some nice designs
Love this toolhead by Chirpy, well done and easy to build. the new version with the press in blower fans is awesome.
Nice tutorial. I just started building my voron 2.4r2 350mm and your tutorials are amazing!
Awesome! Thank you!
Building the same one too! Not fully decided on the head yet, Dragon HF probably. Still,, another couple of months before I can become a proud owner! This tool head looks very good along with the EBB36 CAN. So, had to order one too :). Good luck with the build!
Can also recommend the Dragon Burner, worked much better than mini Afterburner and Stealthburner for me
Looks great, and I just happen to be in the market for a new toolhead for one of my 0.1's... excellent timing!
As always, I hope you enjoy the build and get the same great results out of it we've had!
Put one of these on a V0.1 recently. Can say without a doubt it is my favourite V0 toolhead!
No way same!!
@@trystian8539 Let's be friends!
It's so ugly, though :(
Vorons need to be sexy.
@@condorman6293 Disagree
@@mitsubishimakes My comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but do you disagree about the looks or the value of aesthetics?
I might be considering trying to get one of these mounted on my Flying Bear Reborn 2 since part cooling is one of its major weaknesses
I'll add that to the list.
I run the dragon burner on my V0.1 too, it's a decent design. I will say this about it though, the cad files are off a bit. When I opened them to make a few adjustments, I noticed faces that should have been parallel, and weren't. Things were a little out of alignment. No problem for anyone just printing off and using it, but if you want to edit this a bit it's almost worth a total re-model.
I actually implemented and submitted the sequin nozzle led support on the dragon burner, and I found it an absolute joy to work on.
@@MapleLeafMakers maybe there's an issue with importing it into SW. I've noticed this kind of glitch before with files made in Fusion.
been using it for a while now pretty good however, i now have ditched that for the cpap tool head from chirpy, printing 800mm/s and 70k accel requires alot of more cooling than these 4010 fans can provide
Hi there. There is no VZ Hextrudort support information on github. Where did you get it?
VZHextrudort uses the same mounting pattern as LGX Lite. We used the LGX Lite mount.
Chirpys mods are great
No Rapido UHF option. I'm looking for a toolhead that handles the rapido uhf and the biqu microprobe.
I ike those Neopixels but don't know which ones to buy, I already ordered the barf
i wonder how part cooling compares with mini SB + 2 auxilery cooling fans ducts
i wish the instructions on the github where a bit more complete, how long are the screws needed, how long of PTFE etc, ll figure out able, but nice to not have to
The length of the PTFE tube depends on which extruder and which hotend you're using, every combination will be different. you'll need to measure the depth that the tube inserts into the bottom of your extruder, and ensure exactly that much sticks out the top of the extruder mount when it's fully inserted.
Hello friend! Looks awesome! Is it comperible with MGN9C mod?
it is!
Hello the sequins rgb are different than the rgb I used at my stealthburner. Care to share a bit more about the wiring for them?
Does the 3010 fan enough for cooling the hotend in the heated chamber?
We haven't had any issues with it on any of our machines that are currently running DragonBurner.
We're going to be testing a new design by hartk out this week though!
dragon hotend from which brand?😁
the one in the video is from TriangleLab, but both work fine.
@@MapleLeafMakers heat creep ? and flowrate?😅
@@zola5584 no heat creep issues here. I get about 15mm³/s from it
@@MapleLeafMakers i think would be great to use volcano hotend for higher volumetric flow
@@zola5584 the RapidBurner is basically a Volcano/UHF version of the DragonBurner: github.com/chirpy2605/voron/tree/main/V0/Rapid_Burner
Great video,
Thank you.
a repo i didnt have starred! cheers
How did you wire the other 4010 blower fan ?
The blower fans are spliced together into a single fan header (typically). Some of the newer toolhead boards have 3 fan headers with 2 shared so you don't need to do this either!
Hope that helps.
@@MapleLeafMakers interesting and thanks for sharing
@@MapleLeafMakers can you please share newer toolhead boards names if possible
Is it possible to make a model for a 🥴 ender 3 🙏
The CAD Files are available on the github link in the description, so anyone can make an ender3 version.
@@MapleLeafMakers ok thanks. But as for me ! I am happy to resize a stl file and make a beautiful print of it. 👍
I would like to see an mount for the Dropeffect hotend
I passed your request along to the designer :)
@@MapleLeafMakers oh wow! Big thanks
@@MapleLeafMakers Hey! Sorry for disturbing, any updates on this? :)
@@nicket4472yes actually, he said he's looked at it before but it didn't fit.
@@MapleLeafMakers oh sad! But thanks for the answer! I guess, I have to find a way now to make it fit 💪
Where can I find the strain relief pcb mount - used in this video? 🙏🏻 My motor mount is skewed (Sherpa Zero), and therefore the normal mount, would make the pcb out of angle...
That's a custom one we made for the vz-hextrudort, It hasn't been uploaded anywhere yet, but I'll take a look at the sherpa zero and see if I can adapt it to that extruder.
@@MapleLeafMakers Hi, have you posted your vz hextrudort strain relief anywhere yet? really struggling with trying out different ones for my setup and yours would be perfect!
How difficult is it to change nozzles on it without a revo?
Hi! It's the same as any other hot end really. Can access the nozzle no problem.
I know this video is a tiny bit old but could I possibly get the outer dimensions of the entire thing assembled?
55mm wide.
67mm tall (from bottom of duct, to top of extruder mount)
40mm deep
@@MapleLeafMakers Hero
What are LEDs for?
They help to show your print, and can be programmed to indicate the printer status (warming up, cooling down, probing etc) .
Thanks... now i need to fix up my v0..
You're always welcome. Make it a 0.2 in the process!
Im desinging can adapter for the v2.4 mgn12h block. Have you made one? Didn't see anything on it.
No, we haven't made one, I wasn't even aware there was a carriage for MGN12h already. that's exciting.
@@MapleLeafMakers Where can I dm you. I can give you the Solidworks file too. I love this design and am working to incorporate it into my build
@@scottperry5454 Drop it in the #voronuser_mods channel on the Voron discord!
I'm really struggling with this! I cannot figure out what parts I need for klickyNG for a cruciable v0 build. Nothing makes sense in the cad or github. How does it all go together? what does the tool head pick up? The dragon burner klickyNG shroud doesn't look like it has any thing to do with the official klickyNG.
I don't know anything about klickyNG, but as far as the DragonBurner is concerned, ONLY the cowl changes for the different probes, everything else is the same.
Why not use it on a 2.4 or Troodon 2.0?
We do! We use this toolhead, or variations of it, on many of our printers, including our new belt printer and a couple of our other Vorons.
Would you recommend this over the mini SB? Especially the hextrudort. I really wonder how much of a difference it makes
The hextrudort is great, there was a visible print quality improvement, which I assume is due to the CNC drive gear mostly.
DragonBurner will be on both of our V0s for the forseeable future too. Even setting aside the cooling improvements, it's got a ton of features packed into a tiny space. I have zero complaints.
That looks almost identical to the Apogee toolhead.
How much does the toolhead weigh? If you can determine that easily.
Sorry we don't have that information right now and don't really want to pull one out of our printers at the moment.
12000 RPM fans worth it for a few bucks more than the 9500?
we've found the 9500 ones provide more than enough cooling for our purposes, but that's mostly printing ABS in an enclosed chamber at "normal" speeds. if you're doing a lot of pla, or printing really fast you might benefit from that upgrade.
I noticed the Github said it no longer support the V0.1 carriage. Is there still a version there that does? If so, which version is it, please? I'd like to get my V0.1 working before I think about going to V0.2...
There's a folder full of 'old versions' in the repository, I think V4 was the last to support the 0.1 X carriage: github.com/chirpy2605/voron/tree/main/V0/Dragon_Burner/Old_Versions/v4
@@MapleLeafMakers Thank you, I found it. May I ask one more dumb question? What are the "Sequins" mentioned in the document/STL files?
Adafruit Sequins: www.adafruit.com/product/1758
@@reprinted3D These are the little square neopixel LED's.
learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-led-sequins/overview
@@MapleLeafMakers Thanks. I had some of the single Neopixels, and since they work in the V4, I'm using them. But now I know., so thank you again.
Reminds me of the XOL2
Don't quote me on this, but I think it might actually pre-date the XOL2. it's been on github since November but it started life as a tinkercad project quite some time before that.
@@MapleLeafMakers I'm glad these smaller toolheads are out there. The Stealthburner seems too big. I'm going with the XOL2 since it's adapted to the Double Folder Ascender.
Weight of whole model
according to the designer, the printed parts weigh in around 30g. then add your hotend, extruder and fans.
Total weight AROUND 270g or 356grams right
hmm good timing Im about to smash this lgx lite toolhead to pieces with a hammer and I am half way done modeling my own toolhead. Ill have to look at this more, the main lgx lite toolhead for the v0 is actually really terrible to work on and really not designed well for printing. Though the lgx lite has the filament running really close to the front of the extruder theres actually room for a 5015 fan infront of it in the same footprint as the miniafterburner.
Take a look at some of chirpy's other projects on github, he has a few different extruders too, some that even use the LGX Gears.