WCW Bash at the Beach 1998 Review | Wrestling With Wregret
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Just days after Goldberg shocked the world to become WCW Champion, WCW puts on BASH AT THE BEACH 1998! Featuring the epic encounter between basketball and wrestling's biggest stars! Nominate a classic show on Patreon! / wrestlingwithwregret
03:34 Raven's Rules: Raven vs. Saturn
07:16 Juventud Guerrera vs. Kidman
08:41 Chavo Guerrero, Jr. vs. Stevie Ray
09:57 Hair Match: Chavo Guerrero, Jr. vs. Eddie Guerrero
11:58 Disco Inferno vs. Konnan
14:31 The Giant vs. Kevin Greene
16:51 Cruiserweight Championship: Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio, Jr.
20:30 Television Championship: Booker T vs. Bret Hart
22:31 WCW Championship: Goldberg vs. Curt Hennig
23:45 Hollywood Hogan & Dennis Rodman vs. Diamond Dallas Page & Karl Malone
31:37 Final Thoughts
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Back when Mysterio had two eyeballs, such nostalgia. 😖
Damn that Seth Rollins guy.
😅
he still has 2 eyes
Underrated comment
Geez, that feud is already two years old? Where has the time gone?
Rodman was a wrestling heel before he even got anywhere near wrestling. Lots of flash, attitude, personality.
Rodman was the guy that made me love basketball as a kid. All effort on the court.
JJ saying he’s got a “local guy who hasn’t wrestled in 6 months” is crowd pop fuel. Genius.
I think it's called a swerve.
I’ve lived in San Diego my whole life, my cousin went to this show. We have NEVER EVER called ourselves “San Dog”. This is literally the only place I’ve ever heard this. Lol
Yes. I lived in SD most of my life and that was some lame ass shit. I was at this show too.
@@manmadeaids I wasn't at the show cause I live in Connecticut, actually I was just 3 months old when this PPV happen and I most a agreed with you two. San Dog sounds like a typical case of "How you doing Fellow Kids?"
@@JulioHernandez-wy8nh lol. True
Considering Best of 7 series are pretty rare, the fact Benoit and Booker had 2, (2005 being the other me thinks) is straight up impressive
You're correct with the other Best of 7 they had. It did go into 2006. Unsure if their No Way Out 2006 match was a part of that Best of 7 or if it was just a part of their rivalry after the Best of 7. I know Randy Orton was involved in the 2005/06 one.
Has there ever been a best of 7 that didn’t go the full 7? 😅
Hell technically this one was Best of 8.
@@jimllc Oh yeah, I believe the 1998 Benoit/Booker Best of 7 had a match finish where Benoit didn't want to win the series after Bret Hart interfered. Which led to a final match at the next PPV. I remember that from watching a bunch of WCW 1998 PPVs. I think I remembered that correctly.
Brett Storm XWP yep Orton subbed in for Booker in the last match of the series and won the US title for Book I believe
I thought the "Chair masquerading as a table" line was brilliant. Not a line that was supposed to make sense he was just digging at Tony for a laugh.
Exactly
Malenko vs Jericho is one of the most underrated feuds in wcw
Armbar!!!!
@@gangrenouslimb Armdrag!
"A chair masquerading as a table" - PUT IT ON A T-SHIRT!
Whether tony was serious or not i find that sentence hilarious
I AM (a chair masquerading as) THE TABLE!
@@iudexphilippus5805 I AM THE CHABLE! - Rich Evans, probably
@@supersasukemaniac he obviously was trolling him. How did that go over Zane's head lol
So would a table be masquerading as a chair?
I've finally gotten around to reading "The Death of WCW" recently, and at the time of this comment I've recently finished the chapter on 1998, which contained an entertaining little bit about the main event of this show. To quote the book regarding Rodman, from page 159 of the 10th anniversary edition: *"He got in the ring and was beyond horrible, screwing up moves left and right and actually falling down on several occasions. Then he tagged out, stood on the apron, and put his head on the turnbuckle, seemingly falling asleep. Luckily, that was the best role for him. Hogan had also demanded forty-five minutes for the match - approximately forty-four minutes longer than any of the four, with the exception of Page, could realistically have wrestled and remained entertaining."*
Fourty-five minutes for a Hogan match sounds like pure hell.
I don't think rodman was that bad. I have seen far worse celebrities matches especially in the last 5 years.
@@holycow3890Yeah WCW Did CELEBRITIES Better Than The WWE. There Are 20 Plus Things WCW Did Better Than The WWE. The Article Of The Top 20 Things WCW Did Better:
1.)Commentary(And Plus Jim Ross Best Work Was In WCW)
2.)Cruiserweights
3.)Celebrities
4.)Dream Matches
5.)Belt Designs
6.)Big Fight Feel
7.)Authority Figures
8.)Match Concepts
9.)Must See TV
10.)Main Event Storylines
11.)Workrate
12.)Introduction Of Wrestlers
13.)Midcard
14.)Tag Teams
15.)Star Power
16.)International Talent
17.)Stage Designs
18.)The Variety
19.)Realism
20.)Pyro
I Bet Factions Is Another.
The WWE Highest 5 Ranked Factions:
1.)The Shield
2.)Evolustion
3.)DX
4.)The Bloodline
5.)Tge Corporation
WCW Top Ranking 5 Factions
1.)NWO
2.)The Four Horsemen
3.)Dangerous Alliance
4.)Raven’s Flock
5.)Millionaire’s Club
Zane, next time you have a match use your version of the diamond-cutter
"I'm the Champion of the whole internet."
Matt Cardona has entered the chat.
Malone was pretty much the MVP of the main event and this alone summons how terrible the match was lol. Amazing how Bash at the Beach became historically associated with multiple mistakes and fuckups throughout WCW lifespan.
I’d argue starrcade is more well known for wcw idiocy. Bash at the beach is mostly known for the biggest heel turn in wrestling history.
I think Halloween Havoc holds the title for annual WCW crapfest
@@jamesstrevels5447 Uncensored is often their worst show. Halloween Havoc also has some of WCW's worst matches.
What I gather from this comment chain is that WCW just had terrible pay-per-views all around during their final years.
@@gunghoun even in their good years, they rarely had a good PPV, especially after the NWO started.
22 years later and three feds on (wwe, Japan,Aew) Jericho is STILL at the top of his heel game.
You’re having a bit too much of the bubbly if you think Jericho is still at the top of his game
Uh I love Jericho but I don't really know how he can be at the top of his heel game today. In what way? I can barely get through the segments
Jericho is nearly 50 at this point I think let him do whatever the heck he want.
For me he has “corny delusional old man” heat, not good heel heat.
Stop blowing Meltzer.
Kevin Greene took that chokeslam better than most pros.
For his only five professional wrestling match I was kinda surprised he didn't give it more of a shot.
He wasn't bad at all. Greene if he wanted to be, could have been a decent pro wrestler.
Way more competent than Mongo that's for sure
@@jimllc I think the NFL eventually nixed any future matches cause they didn't want their players risking injury.
And by the time Greene retired, he was either too hurt or there just wasn't any interest left.
Agree
Former two-time resident of San Dog, can confirm.
bigevilworldwide1 I’m pretty sure that’s not correct.
@@TheSaltySeaman the documentary Anchorman says otherwise
Moshin Sidi agree to disagree.
...when in Rome.
San Dog is a navy lingo located in San Diego
Tbh I thought Mike Teney’s “chair masquerading as a table” line was great
bobby heenans response is funny too i miss these guys all wcw needed was lawler loo
I think he was joking with the intentional serious delivery.
If only Don West was there to react to Mike’s line.
i mean, it's mike, tony, and bobby. that's one of the best commentary line ups ever.
Fun fact:Kevin Greene graduated from my high school and had the football field dedicated in his honor for going into the HOF
Granite City! I’m heading to Cionkos in a little bit hahaah
Take it easy on Kevin Greene, he's doing some spots that are kind of impressive for a 5th match. And against the son of Andre...
And later that summer, they gave Jay Leno a match. I hope one of your Patreon sponsors requested that fiasco.
The next month
I had a Kevin Greene action figure when I was a kid. I’ll see myself out.
Nothing wrong with that
I was about to say a bash at the beach review not in the summer is weird and then I realised we are in July,
Wow this year has gone quick!
2020 is the worst year by far for current generations. Wish the leftist scum destroyin the country wuld be shipped off away from this country they hate so much
@@jrwizz People like you are the worst. Don't call people on a different political side of the spectrum "scum".
You do realise that one of the best right wing leaders the world has ever seen said "I love argument, Iove debate, I don't expect someone to just sit their that's not their job".
The person that said that was Maggie Thatcher. And as a Socialist that is the only thing I actually agree with her on.
JRW 420 No one cares about your beliefs
To be fair, he has done WrestleMania outside of WrestleMania season and the last Halloween havoc he reviewed, which was the 1991 show, he did in back in February.
@@GCAbleism158 I'm not a socialist myself but I guess I can applaud Margaret Thatcher, since she's responsible for the first gender neutral bathroom- her grave lmao
This was the first WCW pay per view I saw. A buddy of mine bought it and made a party out of it.
Wow me too
My uncle ordered it and recorded and gave me the video!
And of course Malone and DDP took the L, everyone knows the Mailman doesn't deliver on Sunday!
SAVAGE! LOL
and Hogan and Rodman took the W because they're NWO4Life!
@@sam.houseworth No, it was Hogan.
thats good
Damn!
Kevin Nash and Konan tried so hard to be cool back then. I remember one promo where they were sipping out of red solo cups and casually sitting on some boxes. Konan called Hogan a "raspberry" and then goes "Talk to em' Big Kev". Kevin Nash then started talking about how Hogan couldn't afford Cristal.
My favorite part of the Jericho-Malenko "can't touch each other until the PPV" angle was that Jericho baited him and Malenko bit and they legit called off the match. Don't think it's ever been done where the "don't touch me or else no match" thing was done and something happened and they called off the match.
It's very rare.
There's one cheat with a HHH one where he signs half his name and beats up Austin...and then signs the rest.
He must have a good Lawyer for that to work.
@@TimTE01 oh I remember that whole angle. A tag match afterward where they had to team up against Kurt & Rock was hilarious
I just worked 5 consecutive days with the public. The public is unbelievably stupid. I have two days off, 60 beers, and a classic PPV review. I’m ready.
Nick Patrick ref bump always hilarious to watch lol
WCW beat WWF multiple times in the ratings after Goldberg pinned Hogan. The last time WCW won for a night was October 26th, 1998.
Not 'multiple'. A few more only....
Your reviews of these PPVs make me so happy lol hearing the little easter eggs from the crowd and commentators is hilarious!
Kevin Greene was honestly not that bad for only having so few matches. His natural athletic talent certainly helped him and he had a good charisma that kept the crowd in the match.
Anything with raven is a hit for me. It used to tear me up seeing the flock disband.
The Mad Metalhead Man I loved the Flock. While everyone else was marking out for the NWO I was a total Flock and Raven mark. They deserved more.
Casuals came for the nwo,true fans were for the flock and the four horsemen
After watching his stuff in ECW on the network I have grown to appreciate Raven alot more
I was a nWo fan but Raven's Flock really made me feel like I was a part of something. This was a time I was getting into rock/metal music and got shit for it from family and friends (I'm black) so when I meet other people at The Village, I saw others who dressed like Raven and I even took the name Raven as an alias as tribute to Raven.
I’m a couple years late but I fully understand everyone’s love for Raven. I too was immediately a fan of his, I started watching right at the end of The Flock in WCW
3:33 missed opportunity to film yourself phoning the number to check if it’s still active 😂
I called it goes straight to WWE
@@fc775 😂🤣
1st wcw ppv I ever watched. I got caught in the Malone vs rodman hype
it is amazing how small Giant makes Kevin Greene look.
Classic PPV reviews = best thing on TH-cam.
+Cameron Sykes
#FACTS
The day my faith in the announcers died was the time Kevin Nash came out dressed like Sting to attack(the giant I think)and they claimed it was really Sting
That When Worlds Collide Eddie and Art Barr vs El Hijo del Santos and Octagon match is one of the greatest of all time. If you've never seen it, definitely check it out.
Just went back and watched this(like I normally do in preparation for your reviews) and just like any other time I watch WCW PPVs from this era never ceases to amaze me the amount of talent and star power they had at this point.
Just on this card you had Big Show, Eddie, Jericho, Luger and Nash(didnt wrestle but got involved), Mysterio, Booker T, Bret Hart, Mr. Perfect, Goldberg, DDP and Hogan. Out of that list there are 9 guys that had World Championship matches at a Wrestlemania, the only 2 that didn't were Perfect and DDP but both of them were major stars at one point.
You then had talented performers like Raven, Saturn, Juvi, Kidman and Konnan(who was a major star in Mexico). And that's just the guys on the card.
They also had guys like Sting, Savage, Flair, Piper, Steiner, Scott Hall and Chris Benoit not on the show. Just an unreal stable of talent and most importantly STAR power.
As far as the PPV I got a kick out of Schiavone saying "We have the best camermen and production crew in the world" then 2 seconds later they show 2 guys working on cables around the ring. The WWE would never have that be shown on camera or during a match. Those guys would do it in between matches and if for some reason they couldnt then the camera man would make sure not to have them in the background and/or the director would cut to a different shot. By having them on screen all it does is distract the viewer and take their attention away from the wrestlers which is something "the best production crew in the world" should never let happen.
27:10 - 27:35 I love when you share stuff like this. We all had moments like this as fans and just the relatability of it is perfect.
Why did WCW ppv's always seem to be in reverse? All the great matches early on n then it declines to the point of parody. Great review Brian 👍
WCW/WWF were complete opposites at the time. WCW had a great undercard and a weak main event, WWF would have a weak undercard and a great main event.
@@Rando1975 I hear that, but kinda disagree. I remember Raws 'weak' undercard being awesome at the time
@@DaveHorgan. Raw's undercard was good during that time, but WCW's was far more superior imho.
@@Rando1975 Imagine a wrestling show with WWF's 1998 main event scene, WCW's mid card from 1996-99, all booked by Paul Heyman.
Literal perfection.
@@TheTrainFan9 OMG that would have been amazing!
I would love to see OSW cover this PPV for the sole fact that i want to know WHAT BARRRRRRR is Rey Mysterio JR... hahaha
I know what byyaarrrrr he is after his current hashtag EyeForEye match.
One of those Sonic ice cream bars with the wonky eye.
@@zubrhero5270 hahahahahaha yessss. my favorite byyyaarrrrrrrr was wrestlemania 8 macho man gear... he was a pack of super king smokes
@Benjamin Volk hell ya they are... i wish they would put out a new OSW review.. its been a couple weeks and their most recent upload was non wrestling related.
He is......a packet of Takis Nitro
I remember watching this as a kid. A nice blast from the past.
Ahoy fellow strat hat 👍🏻
The subtle effects on the Brett and booker match added a nice bit of comedy to this review made it tht much more enjoyable 👍
Bret's ring post figure 4 is a thing of beauty, looks painful, protects both men.
Too think I go from watching Space Jam last night to watching a review of Bash at the Beach 98
That's enough basketball for 1 year
Space Jam rules
@@JoshGjonaj
#FACTS
@@thealjohnsonshow2188 Such a great film. You can't convince me Bill Murray ain't the goat though
Bill needed more play time in that game.
12:40 what did Nash say? All I can understand is “west coast”
West coast right here. Lol
AlexTheRed1985 - thanks!
Say***
Scott Alderson - aw son-of-a-bitch!!! Thanks for the heads up😂
I thought it was west coast riders
I begged my grandma to order this pay per view. I was probably three months in from switching from wwf to wcw for a while. I remember thoroughly enjoying it
Nick Patrick is the Nicholas Cage of ref bumps. Its awful at times but the overacting will never disappoint lol!!!
Yeah, I love visit San Dog, Catlifornia.
The part with Lord Alfred Hayes saying "Promotional consideration payed for by the following" brings back my childhood every time
I'm born and raised in San Diego and this ppv was the only time I ever heard "San Dog". I remember thinking the same thing back in '98.
Summer of '98 was the height of Attitude Era wrestling across the board. Goldberg, Bash at the Beach, Highway to Hell. From June to August, what a time to be a wrestling fan.
popped for levi shapiro in the ad break
22 hours ago? are you from the past! 😰
Finley Tyler ahhh i see
Have a great day today Z-Man
I loved me some 1998 WCW. The nWo was going strong, the Wolfpac was new, DDP and Goldberg had good runs, and midcard (at the time) talent like Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, and Raven got a chance to shine with cool storylines. I know the match quality was sometimes "meh" or terrible, but as a 15 year old kid that didn't matter as much. For me, WCW didn't really start going downhill until 1999-2000.
This is the first PPV I ever bought, with me and my friends splitting it in college. We were HYPED and all in on Goldberg and the Wolfpac and Jericho and Raven and pretty much everything they were dishing out at the time.
I’m in the 1998 year of WCW on the network and I just watched this pay per view last week. So I was waiting on this review and of course it didn’t disappoint.
One of the few WCW PPVs I've owned on VHS at the time.
“Might as well make this spot look good! Weee!” I’m dying...good lord. Tears legit came down my cheeks. Make all things considered this PPV was something special, easily one of the main reasons WCW was such a great promotion back in the day.
Fun Fact: DDP and Karl Malone had the same agent at the time of the match. May explain how Karl got a foot in the door.
Kidman and Juventud were two unsung WCW heroes in 1998. They had several great matches on Nitro that year.
WCW really started to go downhill in 98. They went into panic mode when WWF started the Attitude era
Definitely true about that
they still had their moments in 98, and even in 99, but 2000 is when they really started to die
@@mrwarped
Yep
98 still had potential with wolf pack vs black and white feud. Goldbergs big push.
@@mrwarped Agreed, there was no redeeming the product after the deathblow that was Russo's booking. Especially David Arquette World Champion (I know that was Schiavone's idea, but Russo gave it his seal of approval).
Mike was trolling Tony with that chair masquerading as a table line. 😂
A always thought a great main event would be Karl Malone vs The Age of Consent!
I'm surprised Greene didn't try to become a full-time pro wrestler with WCW after he retired from the NFL.
In Eric Bischoff's book Cash/Controversy, he said that of all the non-wrestlers that they brought into WCW at the time (including Rodman) Green had the ability to most easily transition into a wrestling career.
I actually own this on VHS and glad to see you review it!
DDP on The Rise and Fall Of WCW about making the match with him and Karl Malone against Hogan and Dennis Rodman:
Karl Malone was a huge wrestling fan and loved WCW. I was doing an autograph session in Houston, TX and we had gone to the game that night, Houston was playing the Jazz. At one of the time outs, Byron Scott told Karl that DDP is up there (in the stands) and he looked up at me and made the Diamond Cutter sign, and then he set us up with passes to go back into the locker room.
I walked out and we met Karl and we just bonded immediately, and I said to him bro if you ever want to get in that ring and just workout and see what it's like, I'll show you how to do the diamond cutter, I said so why don't you come by and see me! And we exchanged numbers and that was that
I knew Rodman was coming and knew that it was him and Hogan, so I went over to Bischoff's house (Eric Bischoff) and I said I got a great idea, what about me and Malone against Hogan and Rodman? He said I love that idea, get him!
Ahhh it’s gonna be a great day. First thing that pops up on my feed is this amazing series called the Classic PPV Reviews by the man Brian Zane!
i’m always impressed by the cruiserweight matches on these wcw ppvs.
This was the first PPV I ever watched. My dad and I saw it at a friends house I fell asleep.
Nick Patrick started as a wrestler he better know how to take good bumps
As a fan of both pro wrestling & the Chicago Bulls, respectively, I was psyched out of my mind when I saw that Karl "The Mailman" Malone, Sr. & Dennis Rodman we're gonna slug it out in a tag-team match at this event.
I was 9½ when this WCW Pay-Per-View happened & looking back on it, I still can't believe what I saw.
I lived in San Dog for five years and never heard it referred to as San Diego. 🤷♂️ 😂
DDP was at a Jazz game and when Karl Malone was told who was in the crowd and where the Mailman turned to him and did the Diamond Cutter sign at him then gave him locker room passes after the game. The two really did bond from there and when Rodman was coming in DDP called Bischoff and pitched the angle.
Pictures from the main event were in my senior yearbook, since pro wrestling was so damn hot at this point. I still think it's pretty cool that I have that as a memory of the time period
i still have this on vhs that i recorded myself at the time was a great show
The best part of this whole video is Brian thinking the Diamond Cutter was a two-handed palm to the face, lmao. 10/10!
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
James Hetfield & The Chair: I AM THE TABLE!!!!
I live in Utah during this time period.. was crazy
Zane I don't wanna call you stupid about the diamond cutter thing...
But come on now
We've all had that kind of "wait... that isn't right" moment.
@@JagerLange Very true. I'm sure I've believed some daft shit about wrestling through the years😅
He was a kid!
"Hennig bumps his ass off" could be used to describe any of his matches.
I remember this PPV was one of the big turning points for my sister, my cousins and I as up to that point we would always gather at our house to watch a WWF or WCW PPV... And during that last match we ALL FELL ASLEEP, it was embarrassing because we all woke up at some point looked at each other and couldn't believe it bored us all that much.
Honestly, if they want to keep the "Horror Show" moniker for Extreme Rules, drop HIAC as a pay per view and only pull the cell out for the most intense of feuds (Strowman vs. Reigns, for example), move Extreme Rules to October, and make this or Great American Bash the July PPV. Then if you want to keep the other one, have it be an NXT Takeover.
Good point but wtf does this have to do with the video LOL
@@spetterman2916 I want bash at the beach to come back with goofy sets and everything lmao
Seeing Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone in WCW was crazy
THE HOLY SECRET OF THE DIAMOND CUTTER?
The Legends are True!!!
*30:14* I did a double take when you said they ended it way too early. I was like WTF this match was supposed to go even longer?
Same lol. I'm like damn they still had to stretch for time even though the match was longer than it needed to be? WOW!!
It went 23:47. How much more time did they have??
@@adaptivegaming5794 it's even more bizzare when Brian said the Mysterio Jericho match could have gone a little longer why the hell didn't they give them some more time (and some of the other midcarders too) if they ended the show early
Did someone at WCW seriously believe that Rodman and Malone needed like 30 minutes? That is absurd.
I wonder if the WCW hotline still works.
Bad timing aside, WTF was the point of putting a table over raven if Saturn gonna jump through it ? That logically adds nothing but pain to Himself
Wow, I remember this PPV. Thanks for the memories Brian! And don't worry about the Diamond Cutter - I got into fisticuffs with a friend because he said "it wasn't that different from the Stunner!" Ah the follies of youth.
I feel like Rodman either got a concussion in this match early, or he was a couple of drinks in. The dude was really good the year prior against Luger and Giant, but this year the dude couldn't stand correctly.
Also the other thing I've noticed about the match was how many times Hogan would tag in Rodman, they do a double team, and Rodman would proceed to go back to the apron despite being the legal guy, leaving Hogan to continue wrestling.
That diamond cutter from Karl Malone to curt Henning was smooth as hell.
I never understood the need for a ref bump in a no DQ match.
Z-man do wwe backlash 2004 please
I do think that tag line was meant to be a reference to jaws opening scene
Raven, Saturn, and Kanyon are three of my all time favorite performers. You can't go wrong when those three are involved.
I think the best part of that opening match this one Saturn jumps off the top rope through tables
And the announcers just like ignore it they don't even call it
Really shows you how crazy things were in the 90s
At the very end of this ppv I was wished a happy birthday. The very last words were, Matt? Who's Matt?
I don't know it's on the paper. Me and my crew busted out in excitement knowing that it was me. Even if the world didn't know the 15 of us knew.
Chavo was on par with Eddie. Totally under rated
Lt. loco..
Zane, you picked a really great time to become a wrestling fan. Good times.
As awesome as that Nitro was with Goldberg the decision to give that match away for free was was stupid. That was a PPV level match, they could of sold out any arena with that match and they were so desperate to keep winning the ratings, they gave away Goldberg Vs Hogan.
That Nitro was at the Georgia Dome. It was in a larger arena than the actual PPV.
@@almightycinder But it also meant they got less money since tickers were cheaper for TV (Some even free)