Cache: Failure Of Container
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2020
- Link for cache burial and contents video: • Bug In Cache
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Can I suggest maybe some kind of plastic bag that covers the cooler, we call them bin bags, then you can tie it off so there's less of an entry for rain or whatever.
Man, I’m a new subscriber and I’ve been watching all the old vids. I really like them. You do a good job with content, humor and relevant info. Thanks. I’m writing this as I watch the absolute best fishing vid. You mention Corporal’s Corner. Cpl Shawn Kelly is awesome too. You guys are similar, and call it as you see it. No bs, no crying about gear and just good ideas without being a moron. Not everyone will go out and do what they “correct” how you you do things. Please continue.
Awesome. Thanks for the watch and words!
My friend I’m glad that you actually walk the walk.
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I had a stash years ago way out in the country where there was nothing around. I had two accesses, both required a good hike.
I had taken one of the trails, and all was fine. Two weeks later I came in through the other route, and here, in the middle of nowhere they had decided to build a new power plant. They had cleared a large area of woods and were approaching very close to my stash. So I hurriedly relocated it. Had I waited another day it may have been to late.
I also have a small food cache on the way to as location in case that cars are out of the question and I have to hike. I pass by the area often, and one day there was earth moving equipment near the location. As it turned out they made a small park there with an island, fencing, benches, etc. Fourtunatly the area they cleared stops just short of the stash.
Let this be a lesson to you to occassionally do a check on your prep because things do change.
Now I need to go check up on my caches. One that has concerned me is no longer as easily accessible since they have gated the property and put up no trespassing signs everywhere. My concern there is that there are lots of wild boar in that area, and if they smell it they could and probably would tear into it.
The moral is, It is better to know now than to find out then.
Thanks for taking the time to share this important information. Your channel provides a valuable public service. Just a few notes if you dont mind. Coolers are poor choice for storage. Water moisture will always get in faster than it can get out. The lid seal are not water tight even on latch lid options. For the situation in this set up, drill a drain hole in the cooler and a drain option for the hole in the ground. Water always wins, yer not gonna keep it out, the ground is where water goes. For location consider the possibility of wind as an option for keeping things dry.
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Get yourself some decent quality canoe /caving dry sack then put the cache inside those..excellent video highlighting the problems with a cache...atb from 🇬🇧....
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Always enjoy your videos. You give me great ideas and I often learn a lot. Thanks for that. Ty from Ohio. 👍
Ohio? Might see you around then. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I think you're lid might have floated also large rock and flex tape like Robert Cole stated. Thanks for what you do.
Yes, it could have floated. Not sure how high the run off was. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Excellent video. I like the failure video. It looks like a great lesson when you only lose 10 to 20% of your cache (depending on your printer cartridges working or not). If you needed it, you would really appreciate that 80% and be quite happy with it.
We run a small bead of caulk on the ice chest style caches. Not a super thick bead, but enough to seal it well and still be easy to open with a knife or even a stick. We also throw one of those super cheap small squeeze tubes of caulk in there (with a cap) in case we ever have to get in it and possibly add stuff to it. We usually put everything in it in mylar bags with a few silica gel packs, just in case.
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Unless the lid is waterproof, any rainfall which falls on top of the lid will migrate to lid edge, spill over the top and run down to the gap between lid and body and enter the container. I know this from experience. Place a piece of visqueen over the top and partially down the side of the container covering the gap.
Snake , Another good one . It is amazing how good that camouflage works. Keep'em coming!!!!
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food for thought.. what if you had sealed the sides of the cooler with flex tape? First thing I thought of to prevent external water from leaking into the container. What do you think?
That would be a good idea, but it is a bug in cache, and I want easy and often access to contents. Thanks for the view and comment!
still the best intros on youtube
Thanks for filming cache test and experiment
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I don't bury my so deep and I put a heavy stick on top.i also put my items in a trash bag. I have sealed most of my items also in Ziploc bags like you seal mylar bags.
Run some latex caulking around the edges. Easy to open again but needs to be redone every time you open it. Thank you.
Your camo is 99% perfect. The only fail is the rim of your hat. A few more leaves to undo that circle and you are flawless.
What about making a Spider Hole video? That would be a lot of work but if it were on your property it would always be asset.
Good video and lesson for us all , thanks for sharing , stay safe , God bless !
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Great video, at least you found the failure before you really needed the items. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
If it’s partly sticking out of the ground there’s a fair chance of someone finding it. Bury it completely and put a bead of silicone on the lip to seal it
Thank you for Posting this video! i will check my test-Cache tomorow.
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New Brazilian subscriber on your channel. 🇧🇷 I watched your video talking about Morakniv. I thought it was excellent. Good job!
Thanks for the follow-up! That's one of those obvious-in-hindsight things that I know I tend to overlook. I'll make sure to account for rising water and such now.
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In my opinion, using a cooler is a bad idea on any day. I suggest using a food grade 5 gallon bucket with a screw down waterproof seal, like every other survival cache video I've watched.
Bummer but atleast you were able to salvage some of it. Thanks for video.
Salvaged almost everything, fortunately. Thanks for watching and commenting!
could also put some water bottles under the bag to raise it up off the bottom. just an idea.
Maybe a bead of silicon around the rim of the lid ?
Thanks for share your experience with the stock containers ...
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Tape around the lid? Excellent videos, keep 'em coming!
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I would have sealed these items in a bag inside the cooler, caulked and taped the cooler seam, and then bagged the cooler as well.
I might go back and bag up the bag....making the contents still easily accessible. Thanks for watching and commenting!
You should have used 6" PVC and end caps. I've never had a cache to fail.
I've got different styles of cache all over the place...if any one of them failed, I figured it would be this one. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Good info 👍🏼
5 gal buckets with gamma lids most of contents vacuum sealed
Running a line of silicone sealant and letting it dry to use it as a gasket might be a good idea or a few really long rubber bands (not fully sealing the container just using the silicone as a gasket*)
and maybe packing everything in 2 trash bags for extra protection
Great vid once again👍🏻🇺🇸
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Brother, Thank you for sharing “ Cache Container Fail”. If I may, I knew it would happen based on my own experiences. Coolers are NOT water tight. I have had cooler chests fill with rainwater just sitting in my yard. I have come to realize that changes in Barometric Air Pressure could be the reason why... when a LOW Pressure Weather System arrives, usually with RAIN, and the Container’s Internal air pressure is greater, then the Internal Air will break the Lid’s Seal and allow Rain Water to leak in. Regardless of how high or low the lid is to the ground surface, the cooler’s lids will not keep the rainwater out... this from my experience. Unless the lid is sealed with caulk, it will allow water in. Weighting the lid will help certainly, but consider caulk and tape. For my caches I have learned to incline the lids slightly downhill. Additionally all items are wrapped or sealed in plastic, with desiccant. Metallic items get coated in oil. CONDENSATION is the enemy even when the cache is AIRTIGHT. We learn by trial and error. From my experiments and experiences I have learned things. Please consider my explanation.. certainly the groundwater overtopped thecooler’s lid, but perhaps the change in air pressure broke the seal. OBTW, I watch scores of Survival Preparedness Homesteading sites, but I truly consider yours most similar to my thinking and means. Keep up the good work. Until next time.. and keep your powder dry!
Hello again. My caches are 5 gallon buckets and 55 gallon drums. They are buried in hillsides with the lidded openings slightly sloping downhill. This keeps groundwater out of the container, and allows condensation to find its way out by trickling toward the downslope day lid ( tiny gap in the seal). Caches are camouflaged, and have a camo tarp with it to hide activity while at that site.
@@Littleredhen13 The cooler I buried is the one I used to have in back of my truck when travelling, that's how I know the lid doesn't leak from rain. I also liked that there was no metal to rust on it. The tarp in the cache is a good idea. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I didn't think of air pressure. I have a cache in my vehicle of disinfecting supplies. The Pinesol burps when going from state to state because of air pressure (mts to lower elevations) and dramatic temp changes. You can smell it just barely every once in awhile. Good point. I would imagine animals could smell it eventually.
probably better to buy a water proof bucket. i've never used them myself but i've seen a few online claiming to be water proof.
I have some that are supposed to be...but haven't tested them in that kind of situation. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I'd be concerned about bears or feral hogs smelling it and laying waste to much needed supplies.
Possibly, but neither are a concern in that area. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Good video, things to think about.
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Food saver vacuum sealed bags and 6" diameter abs pipe sealed is the only way to cache
Also you could maybe put a couple of pieces of 1 by 4 or 2 by 2 in the bottom of that ice chest if Water did get in if your bag is sitting off the bottom of the cooler the standing water wont touch it
Spacer is a good idea. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@SurvivalTheory Thanks for your videos I learn a lot, I'm here in central Texas
I've been planning this scenario for months.
....be prepared. Thanks for watching and commenting!
i would have sealed that duffle bag up good in at least 2 contractor bags,, i learned the hard way tooo 👍🏕👍
Probably go back and do that. Thanks for watching and commenting!
May I suggest something? I would get some river pebbles (maybe a bucket or two worth).
Then I would dig out the hole some more to allow a nice 4-5 inches of rocks as a base layer for the cooler to sit on top of. Also I would widen and lengthen the hole to allow for a nice 3-4 inches width worth of rocks surrounding the cooler.
The rocks act as a drain which surrounds the cooler so it has a fighting chance of staying dry and not being flooded. But on the other hand I would look for containers with a snap on lid which can even be siliconed even more securely water tight. I would recommend putting in a clean sock filled with 100% silica gel cat litter which is able to remove any moisture which may be present in the bucket prior to it being sealed shut (silicone and the snap on lid)
Coolers are great but I feel buckets which can be had almost everywhere (because they are used to package cooking/frying oil or something similarly common) and most of the time regarded as trash and trown out is in most cases even better then a relatively expensive cooler even though a cooler is good at preventing condensation. Like I said: the condensation can be prevented by using the sock and silicagel method and a bucket with a snap on lid and some caulk...
Also in general: It is always a good idea to label cans with a permanent marker what the contents is just in case the label fails (either from moisture or critter destroying the paper) Unless you are ready to eat extreme surprise meals like tangerine and beans or chicken soup and tomato paste...
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You should have put a large trash bag over it or a tarp wrapped around it.
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I am totally mystified as to why you would choose a loose top cooler for a cache...that being said if it were me I would seal ALL of it in vacuum seal bags...including that little duffle.
Easy to open and check because it's close to home and an active stash. It's also rain proof, loose lid or not.
10:18 maybe throw in a small sealed up baggy of gun oil and some weapon cleaning supplies with the ammo...
Gun oil is a good one....might do that just to not have all my eggs in one basket. Thanks for the view and comment!
@@SurvivalTheory The theory being if you use up the ink in the cache you might want to clean the printer...
@@koningbolo4700 Ha, yes. Also to clean up the printers taken from the opposing office workers after their ink is spilled.
@@SurvivalTheory Most of the opposing office workers may come only with bike locks... no ink spills there unfortunately...
Just oil rag and patches in jar or ziploc
Should have put in your first aid kit again. And wrapped it in a garbage bag.
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@@SurvivalTheory love watching your city stealth camping and also the video series when you got stuck without your gear and had to live off of what you had in the truck that was very interesting to watch and helped me plan what I would want in my truck
How do you find the cash months later and the more you have again the harder for you to find
GPS, index cards in your wallet, secret markers, careful thought works.
Thanks, Snake...ATB as we face off the NWO...
Which camouflage pattern is that shirt
British DPM if I'm not mistaken.
A freaking cool one.... That's the best camo display I've seen him wear.
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Duct tape the cooler seam
That might work, but I get into that one often. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Guy who uses an old cooler for a cache claims he did "forensic analysis"
That's exactly what I did. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Intellect will tell you that a free cooler that retains 80% of your stash in a true SHTF scenario will be a great asset. There is no 100% success in the end of the world. You take every advantage you can. Modify, on the fly, head on a swivel, always changing tactics is what survives.
Pop tarts never taste fine hehe!
...except for the maple and brown sugar. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I can't eat them but in that situation.... I would die for some Smores flavor. What a great camp side treat.
@@SurvivalTheory I tried pop tarts a couple times but they were so sweet it literally hurt my mouth!
@@ThePreparedNorseman - And literally no nutrients in them at all except for the worst sugar.... But I like them. I haven't had one in many years tho.
Horrible idea for a serious cashe. Would never use a normal cooler. Yeti style may be better choice but still wouldn't trust that.
Great idea for a bug in cache. Free old cooler, no condensation, easy to get in and out of, no digging to get contents, etc.. Yeti is horrible idea because they are expensive, and I'm not trying to keep the cooler full of cold beer. Also, metal on a cooler will rust. Now that it is raised, will probably never have water in it again. Thanks for watching and commenting!
🤣🤣🤣 Buying a $400 cooler and burying it? 🤣🤣🤣
Snakes idea is 1,000xs smarter. 80% recovery in SHTF is a great success.
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