That what I thought too. However there maybe talks that we don't know about. Normally we only get news when the deal is done. So i still have my reserves.
@@Shion0Hibiki that is true, but in this case i don’t see France selling any islands we got. It is so important to have some around the world, it is priceless.
Plusieurs choses me font penser que c'est une fake news / de la propagande : 1. Il n'y a littéralement aucune source dans la description. Même si ça se base sur des faits vérifiables (la visite de Macron en Chine et les accords), aucun média (en tout cas en France et dans la sphère anglophone) n'a parlé de ça. Et si cette hypothèse de vente était avérée, je suis certains que tout les médias et la classe politique française se serrait emparé de cette affaire 2. La ligne éditoriale de cette chaîne présente toujours la Chine de manière positive. Même si c'est pas suspect en soi, cette envie de toujours présenter la Chine sous son meilleur angle et ne jamais parlé des défauts (sans forcément parler du Xinjiang) ça pourrait s'apparenter à une tentative de mise en valeur de la Chine dans un but de propagande. (Sur ce point, c'est juste une hypothèse, on ne peut pas être sûr que ça soit vraiment le cas) 3. La stratégie de Macron dans l'Indopacifique c'est de gardée une présence là-bas. Ca serait totalement contre productif de vendre cette île, d'autant plus qu'il y a des français qui vivent là-bas, que c'est une réserve de bio diversité importante et que l'île contribue à offrir à la France une ZEE massive et une présence à travers le globe (sans même parler des ressources halieutiques) Bref, pour moi la vente des îles Kerguelen est faux, rien n'indique que ce soit réel mise à part cette vidéo
@@kooklockklan1974 Of course... solders or money. Or money to buy solders. And the most of all, a good command for the choice of the best strategies.. That's how it has always been since the beginning of human history.
Thats why these warmongering western countries like to invade and conquer other lands. In time of financial hardship, just sell them for a huge profit !
CHINA IS NOT STUPID TO BUY THE THE BARREN ISLAND AT A PRICE OF 60 BILLIONS!!... THE MOST RECOMMENDABLE PRICE IN ONLY 1 BILLION OR LESS OR NO DEAL!!...FROM MALAYSIA 🇲🇾!!!!......
That is the macron asking price is 65 Billion, Then my answer , 65 Million is my deal price. The price difference is small , Just change the aplhabet .
China should buy it. The South pole will move away from this island, which means the tempeture will increase on the island over the next few centuries. This location would be a good base to launch expeditions to antarctica. It will not become another Hawaii. But it could become something similar to New Zealand.
China can turn desert into jungle, reef into town island, moon into satellite base, jet into hypersonic etc. To develop Kerguelen into fortress is within China capability.
Along with the island is the 200 mile exclusive economic zone. Fishing may become a valued asset and as other have said its strategic value to counter US military threats. Further, what lies below the seas, oil? gas? hydrates? Has the island been explored for mineral resources? For China, this would be tempting.
China had. Studied everything in all aspect if it’s wants to buy it but can the deal be done coz there is a gangster tht like to interfere everything called Trouble Sam.
This island is almost close to the Antarctic, far away from international waterways, and its economic value is very low. The only useful thing is scientific research value.
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Btw, ever hear aboud towns rebuild after things like A-Bomb? THink twice whether it can be done. BTW, you know that people managed to build stations even in space? :-D
I believe so my friend . With human effort all out, rock and stone become rice.😂 An ordinary person has two eyes, an extraordinary person has 4 eyes which two in the mind my friend. That barren island never been developed for centuries because the France has only two eyes .
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Shenzhen went from an irrelevant fishing village to the 'Silicon Valley of Manufacturing' in 40 years. The British transformed Hong Kong from a non entity to one of the world's leading financial centres. There is no guarantee that China will make something significant from this island, but there is no reason to believe that it is impossible. Edit: Of course, with gale-force winds for 3/4 of the year, China would likely need to make the island an experimental AI fisheries/production zone for it to be economically worthwhile. Chances are China would only buy this territory for the geopolitical reasons. Geopolitics considerations are the only reason these shit-heaps could be considered worth $60 billion.
@@williamlucas5852 WELL WE DON'T NEED CALIFORNIA = MEXICANS NOR DO WE NEED FLORIDA = MEXICANS NOR DO WE NEED TEXAS = MEXICANS HELL CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH NEVADA OR ARIZONA OTHER THAN TRAIN MARINES AND FIRE NUKES
More likely it'll fail miserably. It enjoyed 40 years of steady growth and investment - that's over. Then all the espionage, IP theft, what it owes for all the sick and dead from Covid...it's not looking good. That doesn't even figure in what China owes for the economic damage from Covid - has to be up in the trillions. Then population collapse, India coming online as a competitor, Mexico for production, the housing crash...it's not looking good.
What I mean by friendship values, is that, other considerations is taking into account, such as the establishment of a subsidiary company or plant of airbus in China, or a joint venture in the production of nuclear submarine where it felt being double- crossed by UK, among others.
Just look at how US and Australia were so against Solomon Island potentially letting PLAN ships dock there. Also there's no info France is going sell the island. Don't cite a random post on Twitter
Questions to ask, 1. Does the island contain rare earth elements resources? 2. Does it allow to develop infrastructures by destroying the unique eco system and valuable creatures on the island? For instance, the penguins are protected by international laws. 3. It located far away from ports. It's very hard to ship cargo to and from the island. Cost of maintenance is too high. 4. It's far away from the continents from Africa, Australia and south Asia. There is no geographic political value, but fishing resources. 5. 60 billions price tag is a joke. I don't think Chinese leaders are stupid. It is a trap for government budget. How many roads and infrastructures can be built from 60 billions USD? 6. Strong wind during almost the whole year, it's not suitable for cargo shipping or airfreight.
Finaly someone who is educated and knows what he is talking about. Oh and when it comes to fishing: Very dangerous(and also very long shipping routes).... The fish would be so expensive that no one would buy it 😂
@@tilllatelomo "in the surrounding waters to the island." Aaah that´s interesting, even I haven´t thought about that. True though, if you can find any that is. That would be speculating however, true though. Then again... now that I think, setting up a drilling plattform is not possible in the roaring forties either 🤷♂ However undersea mining would be possible.
@@thequantumalchemist2965 I think already the meteriologists and some surveyors who stayed there might have some geographical survey data and they might have used some satellite mapping for finding oil and gas reserves. But for even finding potential reserves they have to do some real wild cat exploratory drilling in the surrounding area. But even that seems to be very expensive as per the conditions explained.
It's useless for China to purchase the Island, but if affordable it would be nice to have it to consume US paranoia attitude and India's annoyance behavior in check.
@kittycat3015 We share land border with China thousands of km long and you guys are talking about deep Indian Ocean which we don't even care about 😂 and our military is capable of handling China and if India gives Dalai Lama back to China then our border related problems will be solved automatically BTW China is our brother from 2000 years so don't spread your fake western agenda here 😂
@kittycat3015 we also have missiles like cruise missiles, ICBMS, SLBMS, we also have 2 aircraft carriers and destroyers, conventional submarines and nuclear submarines and our current defense budget is 75 billion dollars but we can also increase if we need because we have 3.8 trillion dollar economy with the annual growth rate of 7.5% and we also have anti satellite weapon and we have our own navigation system called ( Navic ).
Kerguelen island is strategically important for China for defensive as well as commercial purposes. 60 billion dollars is worth the advantages to China as it is located far south near the South Pole which makes it possible to guard the southern route. The deep water enables nuclear submarines and large aircraft carriers to dock at the coastline. The relatively mild weather on the island makes it habitable for people to live. It can be a strategic challenge for the usa and its allies as the island lies close to Australia.
Windy climate for large aircrafts landing and departing during almost the whole year, not suitable for air cargo. Penguins are protected by international laws. Building a large runway airport is prohibited on the island that destroying the home of valuable creatures. Supplying the necessities to the island is cost too high. 60 billions USD price tag is just for an idiot buyer. Does it contain any rare earth resources or petroleum natural gas resources on the island or surrounding waters?
It gives them the opportunity to lay portion claim to south Antarctica , someone said Macron would sell his grandmother years ago on here , they were right..
If any country or anybody completes the deal at €60billion, the Islands would be the most expensive piece of real estate per sq meter on record, as compared to Alaska, the cheapest deal.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
@@prima7853 It's entirely fake, just the metals and oil resources on Kerguelen plateau worth thousands of billions as there is an entire continent underneath that sunk only a few hundred meters unlike the thousands of meters oil rigs normally have to dig.
@@ershenlin1774 China should buy it from Venezuela and set up camp there. The USA has bases all over the globe surrounding China and every other countries, why are they mad over something that is thousands of miles away from the USA?
China should buy the island. China is able to turn silver into gold. Whatever conflicts with whichever countries that will happen in future, it's their own fault that they are unable to cough up €60 billion to purchase the island.
With all due respect to the chinese and their achievements: There are limits to what you can do. And anyone who knows enough about geology will know that the Kerguelen Islands are an absolute waste of money/investment. You can, literaly, do *nothing* with it. Oh trust me, colonial powers in the past *all tried* to make something out of the Kerguelens. They all failed. Gee I wonder why? The reasons are more or less simple:
1: Totaly bad climate. The Kerguelens are similiar to Greenland or Iceland. It´s cold, and despite the cold it is dry. Nothing grows there. You do not even have enough drinking water for that matter. And even if you wanted to set up greenhouses there, *you cannot,* see below for that. 2: Dangerous climate: The Kerguelens are in what is known as the "roaring forties". An altitude that is well known and infamous for their extremely strong and dangerous winds. The reason being that at that altitude there is basicaly only water and *zero landmass,* aka nothing to block or slow down the winds. Hence the Kerguelens are hit *by the full force of the oceans winds.* Storms and harsh winds are a normal sight on the Kerguelens. The sea is also rough and dangerous. In fact thanks to that, the Kerguelens are not even suited as a port. Too strong and dangerous winds. Most ships would drown or take damage before able to enter or leave the port. Same for any helicopters, planes or airports too. 3: Remote and desolate. No matter how you look at it the Kerguelens lay in an remote and desolate part of this world. A dangerous one too like said above. 4: If all of this was not bad enough already, it gets even worse: Most of the Kerguelens are protected by UNESCO. Yes, while the Kerguelens have *very harsh* climate, at the same time they have very unique, cold-oceanic climate too. There is flora and fauna that you will only find there and nowhere else. Hence nearly all of these islands are under direct protection, you are hence *not* allowed to do anything with it except put research stations there. In fact, there are a few such reseach stations on the Kerguelens. And their population hence ranges from 50 to maybe a little over 100 people, all scientists living in research stations. That said, speaking of climate for reference: The Kerguelens rarely see temperatures below 0C°, at the same time they rarely see temps above 10C° too. Also like said there is little rain and not enough freshwater too. Still the climate is indeed very unique and so is the flora and fauna on the island and all of that is worth protecting. Like I said with all due respect... I don´t see how anyone, and be they the smartest people on earth, can make anything of (monetary)value out of the Kerguelens. Literaly, all you can do with it is use it as a research station and that´s it. However you will not get any investments back, well at least not in form of money lol, you will if anything get your investment back in form of biology/knowledge, however do not expect to see only a single cent you invested back... lol cause you won´t ;( Honestly I have hence no idea why Malaysia would even offer a billion for it... All I can think of is altruistic motives, that the malaysians sincerely have an interest in the protection of the environment and our planet. Since when it comes to money/economy... it´s a black hole and waste of money, literaly. I do know that Malaysia also changed their attitude towards environment and the protection of it. They started to take the protection of their environment very serious in the past years(similiar like Indonesia their environment suffered *tremendously* the past decades... Take a look at how some of their rivers looked like a few years ago... And while not perfect they look a *lot better* now. Thanks to the malaysians and indonesians taking action because it just really was *that bad* in the past... and it is still far from ideal too...). Hence I do suspect altruistic motives here since like I said, economic wise, there is nothing to gain at all. Also geostrategicaly there is no gain because you cannot even use the Kerguelens as a reliable port either 😯
@@thequantumalchemist2965 I know what you trying to say...but China always surprised the western and the european countries of their ability to turn a useless place into a useful place.
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Jesus H Christ !.....what a verbosity of self-perceived bs. You a nobel prized geologist or sumting eh ? Your own personal opinion is just that...opinion. Dun really make you as an "authority" to say what can or cannot be done. You dun think the chinese govt wouldn't have a whole room of think-tankers to discuss abt the feasibility of such an investment before they embark on it eh ? Unless you are one of their advisers in this matter, your own self-perceived opinions (regardless of how long a list of it) ain't gonna worth even a dime, bud. 😅 So be done with the verbose rambling already.
If US wants it, they can print more money, they are never short on cash. The problem is, whether France would accept that currency in that quantity. So I think Japan, India and USA really think China is all that evil, then they should just embargo the sale and forbids France to use USD in this transaction.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
Useless to France and very useful to China, the only prospective buyer. Gain for both. Expect a sanction, a trick or a bomb from the USA. Imagine the fury in Washington should Chinese acquire the archipelago and geologists discover a huge oil reserve there!
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
@@prima7853 It's entirely fake, just the metals and oil resources on Kerguelen plateau worth thousands of billions as there is an entire continent underneath that sunk only a few hundred meters unlike the thousands of meters oil rigs normally have to dig.
Yes, China 🇨🇳 must buy it to counterbalance the power of powerful countries. I am supportive of China and Russia 🇷🇺 because the world is better off with multipolar, strategic, economical, and political, powerful countries.
I imagine the climate is similar to Antarctica but not as extreme. Still really uninhabitable, but a wealth of information and research would be endless there. It is also a very good place for a communication station in that region of the world. It will be inhospitable, however, if you think about wind turbines for energy production, that Island could be self sufficient if managed well.
you might be able to do geothermal energy for everything. Then you would need need to build buildings everywhere you wanted people to be. Which could be done. However, China is quickly running out of money to feed it's own people. America and Europe are talking "Decouple". China needs exports to survive, and nobody wants to do business in their country. So i'm not entirely sure what they're hoping to buy the island for. They will have it fished dry within 2 years.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
There's also a news that Taiwan is petitioning to become an overseas department of France similar to the petition made by the Lebanese after that huge explosion in Beirut in 2020 to put Lebanon under French mandate 🤪😝🤣😁
such an island can be no less than a gold mine if rightly administered & utilized . . . €60.0 Bn is bit too much for an isolated island in the far Antarctic region . . .
The geographic position is the best part of this island. China is still predominantly trading via sea, and the island guards the southern seaways around Africa - the largest container ships can't move through either the Suez nor the Panama channel, so controlling the Magellan strait and the seaways in Southern Africa is going to be number one task for the "Eyes" to destroy China. Guess China will have hard time acquiring it if so. History is being made today, the future war with Taiwan is something we already know the way it will play.
the island has no natural resources... aside from vegetation, fish and penguins. Those seas are VERY VERY rough at times. Then if they're going to have a military base there, they have to bring in ALL supplies by ship. That costs money. A lot of money. Their Debit to GDP radio is around 900%, and it doesn't look like their Economy will be doing any better anytime soon.
France wants to sell at 60 billion Euros. But at what price did France buy and from whom? Back in the 1700s France was a colonial nation like most of West stealing, invading territories in others parts of the world.
Why help your ‘enemy’ paying 60 billions Euros for a ‘waste land’ when they desperate & broke. Buy it when they are desperately desperate. 80% less maybe. ‘Why feed the mouth that bites you’
@@mikelloyd520 no military base. but station to track it satalite & space station, stop point for shipping refuel ect bonus maybe resource and fishery that china need
Kerguelen Islands is not very habitable, but it does provide cold desolate coastal land that China does not have. China has every other types of land. So China should buy it. China can use it to learn about cold water marine life and harsh cold weather living. It would provide good knowledge for China.
@@maertscisum China is helping France with trades since France is not bowing to the USA. Maybe in time, France will want to repay China back by dropping the price.
60 billion Euro is a total crazy amount for an island of penguins. Rice can't be grown on the island and walrus meat isn't a favorite item on the menu for Chinese taste.
Eeexactly. I encourage everyone to take a look at what and where the Kerguelens are. Look at it, really takes no Einstein to see that any investment is a waste of money, literaly.
under direct UNESCO protection 😉 You could not even set up a greenhouse there because of this. Nevermind that the island does not have enough sunlight for proper greenhouses and you would need to add artificial lighting anyway...
Honestly even a billion offered by Malaysia is too much 🤣 I am *not* kidding by the way since, literaly, you won´t see a single cent of your investment back...
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Totally agree with you. By the international laws, development on penguins homes is prohibited. Means building port and airport is prohibited on the island. Only stupid would buy such an island. How many fish have to be catch with value of 60 billions USD/EURO near the surrounding waters to the island?
The Kerguelens lay in the roaring forties. No it cannot and will not be suited as a geostrategic location either. Any port or airport you set up there is doomed to fail and most ships and airplanes will either crash/drown or take damage before they can even enter or leave said ports.
I doubt China wants it for political or military reasons. China needs ground bases for its space expedition communications. This island would be one of the multiple locations it needs around the globe for 24/7 coverage.
If China sees it as useful and. Profitable and it fits their long term plans. And France really wants to sell it. Then china will start negotiations. But do not expect them to make a straight cash offer, they will tie it to some other project as well.
China must buy this strategic Island. The hatsh climate and barren. Well there is nothing that China cannot overcome. This is a challenge that China needs. China is good in robotics use them. Good location for nuclear subs. And Electronic station.
That could actualy work.... *If* there weren´t the small problem that even a submarine needs *a port.* And good luck trying to set up a port on the Kerguelens... You will need it... Oh and remember that I did try to warn people 🤷♂
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
You got to ask yourself a fundamental question. Why is these islands like the Kerguelen which are ten of thousands of miles from France consider French and are undisputed and islands that are Claimed by China disputed??? And there are many more of these islands all over the world that are ten of thousands of miles from European Countries which are consider to belong to these European countries.
Well, nobody was living there, so that is a big difference the Kergeulen Islands and Taiwan. If a country claims sovereignty and nobody disputes it, then it effectively belongs to that country. You're welcome to dispute it if you want to, if you can defend your claim with political or military means. The people in government in Taiwan dispute China's sovereignty over them. Nobody in Kergeulen Islands or anywhere else disputes France's claim to the islands, so it belongs to France
@@thecurrentmoment Taiwan Legally belongs to China. So Taiwan's claim is China's claim. The questions remains. Why are the European and American's claims to all these islands are "legal" and China's claims are not! You should look at history as to how these European and American claims were made. They essentially discovered it and when back to Europe and told their fellow Europeans Countries and the Pope and it was not disputed and it was legal did they bother to tell India and China, NO. It is collusion, you don't dispute my claim I don't dispute yours. Well China did the same they discover these islands and went back and told the Chinese Emperor (equivalent to all Heads of State of Europe and the Pope).
If you read anything but propaganda, you'll know the answer. The Kerguelen fake news is full of irony pointing at France. The real issue is South China Sea. There are many other countries involved. Let's just focus on the two. Kerguelen is a former "terra nullius" (a vacant piece of land belonging to no one / or, a century ago, a territory deprived of any form of government). That's what the Spratlys used to be. Kerguelen are a "sui generis" province of France, i.e. a province which has self-organized and acted as an administrative entity without ever being chartered/incorporated. That is what China (inacuretly) claim all of Taiwan Island was before China declared it a province of the Empire. South China Sea is merely Chinese by name: there are so many neighboring countries in close vicinity of the uninhabited Paracels and Spratly islands (no permanent populations before the surge in testosterone levels). Some islands are closer to China; most islands have been visited by Chinese fishermen - among others - for ages, still. China claim on the Spratly Islands dates back to the French-Chinese war. In 1884, France invaded Tonkin and Taiwan, as a result China incorporated Taiwan in its territory (for ten years before finally losing control of it). The 1885 French-Chinese Treaty did not mention the islands. Since France displayed interest for the South China Sea islands as well, China made sure they were labelled Chinese on Chinese maps. The Paracels have long been formally claimed by China and Annam (a Chinese then French vassal state), there are legal grounds for both China and Vietnam. The Spratlys are a different story. In 1932, France officially claimed the Spratly Islands due to its Tonkin colony. Great Britain approved the French claim. In 1933, China formally issued its own claim. France administered and occupied the islands till 1940 and then again after 1948. China sat foot on a Spratly island in 1950. When Vietnam accessed to independence, the Spratly islands were not explicitly incorporated into the Vietnam states. According to a diplomatic memo of the 1960ies, France claim on the Spratly was still legally, if not practically, valid. The video on Kerguelen is just a reminder by China to France of how the "power of the day" can make a claim on a distant archipelago. mepc.org/speeches/diplomacy-rocks-china-and-other-claimants-south-china-sea
I have never heard that the Kerguelen Islands are for sale, here in France. If that had been the case, it would have caused a lot of noise. It's a fake news
6:08 - - 16 million dollars, yes, but at their value in 1803. That amount was in that moment bigger than the GDP of the U.S. for a whole year, and the transaction was possible only because the money was raised in England. Also, video's author does not explain that the "Louisiana" of 1803 is not the Louisiana state of today. The "Louisiana" of 1803 was a third of the continental U.S. of today (Alaska not being included).
The United States paid Louisiana with part of the French loan. France provided the money, troops, armament, military leadership, and naval support that tipped the balance of military power in favor of the United States and paved the way for the Continental Army's eventual victory. We know all too well how bad diplomatic relations between France and the United States were until 1917. Napoleon knew how easily the United States can betray its friends. And that has never changed ...
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
i see this as a way for the Chinese to establish possibly a military base that can do many unforeseen things; however it is just my point of view. Same like what they did it the current scenario with Taiwan, they forcefully establish or perhaps built a artificial island of sort.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
I hope macron will be stopped by parliament and other politicians. This Island (I went there one month in Summer 1990) is a sanctuary and strategic place for France. There is no reason to sell it. But I am very concerned, because this man is a solid bastard capable of anything....
Your counter price is too high, Remember, France is getting ZERO, and shedding good money for this island maintenance. China could help france , Rent the island for 300 yrs , 1 million RMB annually for 300 yrs.
CHINA SHOULD BUY THIS ISLAND, IN THE DATES FROM 23 JULT TO 20 AUDUSTUS OF ANY YEAR. AVOID 17 AUGUSTS OR 17 IN ANY MONTH. BUT YOU CAN INSTEAD THE 8 IN ANY MONTH. THE 8 MADE UP OF ADDING UP OF 1 PLUS 7 = 8 IS CATASTROPHIC AT THE END NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF ANY PROJECT.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
I have less information about China and Chinese people but being an Asian I know the Chinese mentality. It is an Asian mentality whether guided by communist or democratic ideology. Deep down it is different from the Western worldview of the world. Buying Kerguelen Island can not only help China but also world peace. Maybe it is a worthless piece of island for France but China can make it an important piece of land. Asian people are peace-loving people. They have a history of thousand years of civilization. They know how to live, thrive and help others. This is the beauty of Asian nations. We are proud of being Asian irrespective of where we are located. China and India are examples of Asia. Both are peace-loving nations.
does it correctly by having their meritocratic system in place... Indeed no matter how good the intentions are, only the smartest and brightest people are suited to govern a nation.
This story is so strange. Never heard about this deal. And besides: 60 BILLION dollars for a deserted island with just some penguins? I don't believe it.
China would buy the island to connect to Africa Union in commercial shipping route. To build the commercial airport between Australia and South Africa.
China should buy Kerguelen Island it is of Great Strategic value. China has a great engineering capabilities can make their military base & Avoid annoyance of USA in the indian Ocean it also connected to Africa Ocean
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
Russia should buy the island, just to use somehow the tens of billions of rupees that are piling up in India's banks, obtained from India for the discounted Russian petroleum. Now the Russian government has these tens of billions in rupees and and they are useless for any practical purpose.
I think it's a fake news. I don't understand how modern france and it constitutional laws can sell a piece of territory. What are the source? Very weird statement come from nowhere
Australia should buy Kerguelen Island as an investment in the preservation of its national security. Perhaps France could have an "auction" and sell it to the highest bidder! The harshness of the climate and unsuitability of the island for economic development will keep the price well below 60 billion euros. China is also not going to pay top price for it. The suggestion in the video of using it for a submarine base is a good one.
But France hates Australia for cancelling the multibillion dollar submarine deal with France and that is why it intends to sell the island to China to counter Australia from the southwest. And France is the good friend and trading partner of China, China signed 40 billion dollar deal for purchasing 292 new planes from Airbus during Macron's recent visit to China.
These islands provide solid foundation for China to build livable lands and military bases. With China's powerful of building infrastructures histories, these islands will be expand and become 2nd China far away from mainland China.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
Who gives France or anyone the right to "sell" this Island? France has not developed it or settled on it. It's completely barren. It should just go to whoever manages to make it a home.
Just buy it for good will to the French People . Using the island harsh environment to simulate conditions in space is also possible. Buy at good discount
As french i never heard about that deal, after sole research France doesn’t plan to sell any islands
That what I thought too. However there maybe talks that we don't know about. Normally we only get news when the deal is done. So i still have my reserves.
@@Shion0Hibiki that is true, but in this case i don’t see France selling any islands we got. It is so important to have some around the world, it is priceless.
Are you sure this news about France selling Kerguelen to China wasn't first published on 1 April?
Could be fake news or could be dirty play, keep your eyes and ears open people but more importantly: keep your brain in working order
Plusieurs choses me font penser que c'est une fake news / de la propagande :
1. Il n'y a littéralement aucune source dans la description. Même si ça se base sur des faits vérifiables (la visite de Macron en Chine et les accords), aucun média (en tout cas en France et dans la sphère anglophone) n'a parlé de ça. Et si cette hypothèse de vente était avérée, je suis certains que tout les médias et la classe politique française se serrait emparé de cette affaire
2. La ligne éditoriale de cette chaîne présente toujours la Chine de manière positive. Même si c'est pas suspect en soi, cette envie de toujours présenter la Chine sous son meilleur angle et ne jamais parlé des défauts (sans forcément parler du Xinjiang) ça pourrait s'apparenter à une tentative de mise en valeur de la Chine dans un but de propagande. (Sur ce point, c'est juste une hypothèse, on ne peut pas être sûr que ça soit vraiment le cas)
3. La stratégie de Macron dans l'Indopacifique c'est de gardée une présence là-bas. Ca serait totalement contre productif de vendre cette île, d'autant plus qu'il y a des français qui vivent là-bas, que c'est une réserve de bio diversité importante et que l'île contribue à offrir à la France une ZEE massive et une présence à travers le globe (sans même parler des ressources halieutiques)
Bref, pour moi la vente des îles Kerguelen est faux, rien n'indique que ce soit réel mise à part cette vidéo
considering that France "got" the island for nothing..
Also Americans had the USA for nothing. How much do you offer to buy it ???
@@marclatour5027 a few soldiers, maybe?
@@kooklockklan1974 Of course... solders or money. Or money to buy solders. And the most of all, a good command for the choice of the best strategies.. That's how it has always been since the beginning of human history.
@@marclatour5027 soldres to kill the native populations
Thats why these warmongering western countries like to invade and conquer other lands. In time of financial hardship, just sell them for a huge profit !
CHINA IS NOT STUPID TO BUY THE THE BARREN ISLAND AT A PRICE OF 60 BILLIONS!!...
THE MOST RECOMMENDABLE PRICE IN ONLY 1 BILLION OR LESS OR NO DEAL!!...FROM MALAYSIA 🇲🇾!!!!......
The US will never allow France to sell to China. They'll force France to just keep it for now.
That is the macron asking price is 65 Billion,
Then my answer , 65 Million is my deal price.
The price difference is small ,
Just change the aplhabet .
Buying it might be the easiest part. The protection of the investment and achieving positive return of investment would be the hardest part.
Definitely not worth 60 BILLIONS!!.
China should buy it. The South pole will move away from this island, which means the tempeture will increase on the island over the next few centuries. This location would be a good base to launch expeditions to antarctica. It will not become another Hawaii. But it could become something similar to New Zealand.
China can turn desert into jungle, reef into town island, moon into satellite base, jet into hypersonic etc. To develop Kerguelen into fortress is within China capability.
China cannot turn it's air into clean or it's water into drinkable.
Thats true
Agree absolutely 👍👍
@@Minchya
If China can't, no one else can.
We have seen that they can turn a thriving real estate economy into a pile of rubble with tofu dregs buildings.
Along with the island is the 200 mile exclusive economic zone. Fishing may become a valued asset and as other have said its strategic value to counter US military threats. Further, what lies below the seas, oil? gas? hydrates? Has the island been explored for mineral resources? For China, this would be tempting.
Mas Miwa 👍
China had. Studied everything in all aspect if it’s wants to buy it but can the deal be done coz there is a gangster tht like to interfere everything called Trouble Sam.
Cauchemard
cheap pig skins,willing to sell anything to their Asian daddies lol
This island is almost close to the Antarctic, far away from international waterways, and its economic value is very low. The only useful thing is scientific research value.
With China’s engineering feats and low-cost of production, it could transform this island into… whatever contributes to the larger China Dream.
See my responcer to Val.T. No it cannot and will not. There are physical limits to things and this just happens to be 1 such example.
Another Singapore!
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Btw, ever hear aboud towns rebuild after things like A-Bomb? THink twice whether it can be done. BTW, you know that people managed to build stations even in space? :-D
I believe so my friend . With human effort all out, rock and stone become rice.😂
An ordinary person has two eyes, an extraordinary person has 4 eyes which two in the mind my friend.
That barren island never been developed for centuries because the France has only two eyes .
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Shenzhen went from an irrelevant fishing village to the 'Silicon Valley of Manufacturing' in 40 years. The British transformed Hong Kong from a non entity to one of the world's leading financial centres.
There is no guarantee that China will make something significant from this island, but there is no reason to believe that it is impossible.
Edit: Of course, with gale-force winds for 3/4 of the year, China would likely need to make the island an experimental AI fisheries/production zone for it to be economically worthwhile. Chances are China would only buy this territory for the geopolitical reasons. Geopolitics considerations are the only reason these shit-heaps could be considered worth $60 billion.
60 billions euros is too much.
Buy for 10 to 20 billions maybe.
Not even worth 1 literaly... Take a good look at what and where these islands are...
@@thequantumalchemist2965 It can have resources.
Hard to build there with that wind.
If I were the Chinese decision maker, I'd pay no more than 100 million by selling the US bond.
Even for 60000B this French land is not for sale ;) plus its forbidden in the Constitution to sell territory.
China can transform barren desert into an oasis city of millions inhabitants , what is that little island 😂😂
Greenland would be more interesting after Trump failed 😂
It would be a much better investment too 😉
I would spend my own money to buy Greenland for China 🇨🇳. It would be one of the greatest strategic locations for China 🇨🇳
@@kooklockklan1974 means you are rich
Maybe Biden can learn from Macron by selling a state to safe America from debt crisis 😄😄😄
sell off alaska lol
@@user-fx9lc4gg6u He will do it.
He should start by RETURNING California and Texas to Mexico, Alaska to Russia, and GIVING autonomy BACK to Hawaii and Puerto Rico
At a debt of $31.4 trillions , US would have to sell more than just one state......half a country ? The semi United States of America.😄
@@williamlucas5852 WELL WE DON'T NEED CALIFORNIA = MEXICANS
NOR DO WE NEED FLORIDA = MEXICANS
NOR DO WE NEED TEXAS = MEXICANS
HELL CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH NEVADA OR ARIZONA OTHER THAN TRAIN MARINES AND FIRE NUKES
Whenever there is a challenge China will succeed in overcoming it.
More likely it'll fail miserably. It enjoyed 40 years of steady growth and investment - that's over. Then all the espionage, IP theft, what it owes for all the sick and dead from Covid...it's not looking good. That doesn't even figure in what China owes for the economic damage from Covid - has to be up in the trillions. Then population collapse, India coming online as a competitor, Mexico for production, the housing crash...it's not looking good.
Agree absolutely. Good example : space station, semi conductor chips, etc......
@@Xx-xd3zo
India competitor ?? India till today still can't even build toilets 🚽🚽💩🇮🇳🔚
except when it means they need foreign money.
China has had its time, its down the drain from here. China is domed to become a 3th wrld country again.
China needs a secure base in the southern hemisphere to improve on space services. Perhaps it's ocean farming industry can be set up there too.
$20 to $30 Billion is the estimated market value or friendship value for such a tiny
Island.
*If* that were a normal island: Yes, but it isn´t... There is a reason nobody wants it. There is also a reason Malaysia offers, at best, 1 billion.
There’s no market value to the islands, no one wanted to buy it. Hear Malaysia offered a billion dollars for it, thus, it’s worth $1 billion
What I mean by friendship values, is that, other considerations is taking into account, such as the establishment of a subsidiary company or plant of airbus in China, or a joint venture in the production of nuclear submarine where it felt being double- crossed by UK, among others.
@@kooklockklan1974not quite. If the offer were accepted, you could say that was the market value. But as it was not, you can’t say that.
China should buy it. Good luck. Sure Washington and India will irritate and sabotage. But France should sell to the genuine buyer.
Just look at how US and Australia were so against Solomon Island potentially letting PLAN ships dock there. Also there's no info France is going sell the island. Don't cite a random post on Twitter
Way over priced in the middle of nowhere! Not much of use at all. Total liability to France.
China should buy it, but only with USD. It's a nice way to get rid of some of the USD holdings.
Agree absolutely.
China should buy it with RMB, just to irritate Britain, Australia and US for back stabbing France in the nuclear sub debacle. 😂😂😂😂😂
1 billion yuan. Take it or leave it. 😂
Literaly that would still be a good offer in my oppinion. Although Malaysias offer is even better 😉
Questions to ask,
1. Does the island contain rare earth elements resources?
2. Does it allow to develop infrastructures by destroying the unique eco system and valuable creatures on the island? For instance, the penguins are protected by international laws.
3. It located far away from ports. It's very hard to ship cargo to and from the island. Cost of maintenance is too high.
4. It's far away from the continents from Africa, Australia and south Asia. There is no geographic political value, but fishing resources.
5. 60 billions price tag is a joke. I don't think Chinese leaders are stupid. It is a trap for government budget. How many roads and infrastructures can be built from 60 billions USD?
6. Strong wind during almost the whole year, it's not suitable for cargo shipping or airfreight.
Finaly someone who is educated and knows what he is talking about. Oh and when it comes to fishing: Very dangerous(and also very long shipping routes).... The fish would be so expensive that no one would buy it 😂
@@tilllatelomo "in the surrounding waters to the island."
Aaah that´s interesting, even I haven´t thought about that. True though, if you can find any that is. That would be speculating however, true though. Then again... now that I think, setting up a drilling plattform is not possible in the roaring forties either 🤷♂ However undersea mining would be possible.
@@thequantumalchemist2965 I agree
@@thequantumalchemist2965 I think already the meteriologists and some surveyors who stayed there might have some geographical survey data and they might have used some satellite mapping for finding oil and gas reserves. But for even finding potential reserves they have to do some real wild cat exploratory drilling in the surrounding area. But even that seems to be very expensive as per the conditions explained.
Maybe China can buy France instead. Double the price. 😊
So the European when to that island killed all the inhabitants then claimed that island?
The island's proximity to the Antarticia might be another incentive also.
I think China is more interesting to buy islands on Pacific Ocean with 60 billions USD/EURO price tag from France.
Build more hyper-sonic ICBM is better option.
Arrest Macron for aiding a criminal regime that denies human rights to its people.
Arrest your bloody ass.
@@kinkin697
No one wants his bloody stupid ass even.
It's useless for China to purchase the Island, but if affordable it would be nice to have it to consume US paranoia attitude and India's annoyance behavior in check.
U$ would be sh***** bricks.
@kittycat3015 this island is too far from India 😂
@kittycat3015 We share land border with China thousands of km long and you guys are talking about deep Indian Ocean which we don't even care about 😂 and our military is capable of handling China and if India gives Dalai Lama back to China then our border related problems will be solved automatically BTW China is our brother from 2000 years so don't spread your fake western agenda here 😂
@kittycat3015 we are not USA or Philippines we are India ( Bharat ) and you don't know anything about India 😂
@kittycat3015 we also have missiles like cruise missiles, ICBMS, SLBMS, we also have 2 aircraft carriers and destroyers, conventional submarines and nuclear submarines and our current defense budget is 75 billion dollars but we can also increase if we need because we have 3.8 trillion dollar economy with the annual growth rate of 7.5% and we also have anti satellite weapon and we have our own navigation system called ( Navic ).
Kerguelen island is strategically important for China for defensive as well as commercial purposes. 60 billion dollars is worth the advantages to China as it is located far south near the South Pole which makes it possible to guard the southern route. The deep water enables nuclear submarines and large aircraft carriers to dock at the coastline. The relatively mild weather on the island makes it habitable for people to live. It can be a strategic challenge for the usa and its allies as the island lies close to Australia.
Windy climate for large aircrafts landing and departing during almost the whole year, not suitable for air cargo.
Penguins are protected by international laws. Building a large runway airport is prohibited on the island that destroying the home of valuable creatures.
Supplying the necessities to the island is cost too high.
60 billions USD price tag is just for an idiot buyer.
Does it contain any rare earth resources or petroleum natural gas resources on the island or surrounding waters?
🤣 Have you *tried* to set up a base on the Kerguelens? Try it... Oh and if you fail and your people die... remember: I tried to warn you.
@@thequantumalchemist2965 don’t worry dude, China can do everything what others can’t.
@@philiptan2051 , ,
Yes ,, china can do everything,
Except
being GOD ,
and change mother nature weather .
Confidence is good but over-confidence is very dangerous.
It gives them the opportunity to lay portion claim to south Antarctica , someone said Macron would sell his grandmother years ago on here , they were right..
If any country or anybody completes the deal at €60billion, the Islands would be the most expensive piece of real estate per sq meter on record, as compared to Alaska, the cheapest deal.
Yup 60 billion is too high. Perhaps 5 billion.
That works out to €9/sq meter, dirt cheap compared to any city
😂😂😂 sure
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
@@prima7853 It's entirely fake, just the metals and oil resources on Kerguelen plateau worth thousands of billions as there is an entire continent underneath that sunk only a few hundred meters unlike the thousands of meters oil rigs normally have to dig.
Well an Lenin said : "the capitalists will sell uns the rope on which we hang them". Well done Emanuel.
China is the nation of development and technology, that will allow future development that was not possible in history.
China cannot turn it's air into clean or it's water into drinkable.
Some time ago, Venezuelan Maduro offered an island to sell to china and china refused...
They are afraid it would antagonize uncle sam if they set up some bases so close to US.
@@ershenlin1774In 10 years more, it will be possible
@@nmew6926 ^^ This, was about to say that myself.
@@ershenlin1774 China should buy it from Venezuela and set up camp there. The USA has bases all over the globe surrounding China and every other countries, why are they mad over something that is thousands of miles away from the USA?
@@nmew6926 I Hope China take the offer sooner rather than later.
China should buy the island. China is able to turn silver into gold. Whatever conflicts with whichever countries that will happen in future, it's their own fault that they are unable to cough up €60 billion to purchase the island.
With all due respect to the chinese and their achievements: There are limits to what you can do. And anyone who knows enough about geology will know that the Kerguelen Islands are an absolute waste of money/investment. You can, literaly, do *nothing* with it. Oh trust me, colonial powers in the past *all tried* to make something out of the Kerguelens. They all failed. Gee I wonder why? The reasons are more or less simple:
1: Totaly bad climate. The Kerguelens are similiar to Greenland or Iceland. It´s cold, and despite the cold it is dry. Nothing grows there. You do not even have enough drinking water for that matter. And even if you wanted to set up greenhouses there, *you cannot,* see below for that.
2: Dangerous climate: The Kerguelens are in what is known as the "roaring forties". An altitude that is well known and infamous for their extremely strong and dangerous winds. The reason being that at that altitude there is basicaly only water and *zero landmass,* aka nothing to block or slow down the winds. Hence the Kerguelens are hit *by the full force of the oceans winds.* Storms and harsh winds are a normal sight on the Kerguelens. The sea is also rough and dangerous. In fact thanks to that, the Kerguelens are not even suited as a port. Too strong and dangerous winds. Most ships would drown or take damage before able to enter or leave the port. Same for any helicopters, planes or airports too.
3: Remote and desolate. No matter how you look at it the Kerguelens lay in an remote and desolate part of this world. A dangerous one too like said above.
4: If all of this was not bad enough already, it gets even worse: Most of the Kerguelens are protected by UNESCO. Yes, while the Kerguelens have *very harsh* climate, at the same time they have very unique, cold-oceanic climate too. There is flora and fauna that you will only find there and nowhere else. Hence nearly all of these islands are under direct protection, you are hence *not* allowed to do anything with it except put research stations there. In fact, there are a few such reseach stations on the Kerguelens. And their population hence ranges from 50 to maybe a little over 100 people, all scientists living in research stations. That said, speaking of climate for reference: The Kerguelens rarely see temperatures below 0C°, at the same time they rarely see temps above 10C° too. Also like said there is little rain and not enough freshwater too. Still the climate is indeed very unique and so is the flora and fauna on the island and all of that is worth protecting.
Like I said with all due respect... I don´t see how anyone, and be they the smartest people on earth, can make anything of (monetary)value out of the Kerguelens. Literaly, all you can do with it is use it as a research station and that´s it. However you will not get any investments back, well at least not in form of money lol, you will if anything get your investment back in form of biology/knowledge, however do not expect to see only a single cent you invested back... lol cause you won´t ;(
Honestly I have hence no idea why Malaysia would even offer a billion for it... All I can think of is altruistic motives, that the malaysians sincerely have an interest in the protection of the environment and our planet. Since when it comes to money/economy... it´s a black hole and waste of money, literaly. I do know that Malaysia also changed their attitude towards environment and the protection of it. They started to take the protection of their environment very serious in the past years(similiar like Indonesia their environment suffered *tremendously* the past decades... Take a look at how some of their rivers looked like a few years ago... And while not perfect they look a *lot better* now. Thanks to the malaysians and indonesians taking action because it just really was *that bad* in the past... and it is still far from ideal too...). Hence I do suspect altruistic motives here since like I said, economic wise, there is nothing to gain at all. Also geostrategicaly there is no gain because you cannot even use the Kerguelens as a reliable port either 😯
China cannot turn it's air into clean or it's water into drinkable.
@@thequantumalchemist2965 I know what you trying to say...but China always surprised the western and the european countries of their ability to turn a useless place into a useful place.
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Jesus H Christ !.....what a verbosity of self-perceived bs. You a nobel prized geologist or sumting eh ? Your own personal opinion is just that...opinion. Dun really make you as an "authority" to say what can or cannot be done. You dun think the chinese govt wouldn't have a whole room of think-tankers to discuss abt the feasibility of such an investment before they embark on it eh ? Unless you are one of their advisers in this matter, your own self-perceived opinions (regardless of how long a list of it) ain't gonna worth even a dime, bud. 😅 So be done with the verbose rambling already.
If US wants it, they can print more money, they are never short on cash. The problem is, whether France would accept that currency in that quantity. So I think Japan, India and USA really think China is all that evil, then they should just embargo the sale and forbids France to use USD in this transaction.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
Yes think about it!!
To china, this will be as valuable as the ice crystals of Shangri-la.
Useless to France and very useful to China, the only prospective buyer. Gain for both. Expect a sanction, a trick or a bomb from the USA. Imagine the fury in Washington should Chinese acquire the archipelago and geologists discover a huge oil reserve there!
China should negotiate for 20 billion.
@@kinkin697
Yes. 60 billion is way too high. Yup. 20 billion or perhaps 15 or 10 billion.
France will never sell a square centimeter to anybody
€60B is a rich price that China could had negotiated lower as there are really no other buyer.
Agree .
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
@@prima7853 It's entirely fake, just the metals and oil resources on Kerguelen plateau worth thousands of billions as there is an entire continent underneath that sunk only a few hundred meters unlike the thousands of meters oil rigs normally have to dig.
Yes, China 🇨🇳 must buy it to counterbalance the power of powerful countries. I am supportive of China and Russia 🇷🇺 because the world is better off with multipolar, strategic, economical, and political, powerful countries.
But not 60 billion. 5 billion ok.
@prima7853 it's a bargain though
I imagine the climate is similar to Antarctica but not as extreme. Still really uninhabitable, but a wealth of information and research would be endless there. It is also a very good place for a communication station in that region of the world. It will be inhospitable, however, if you think about wind turbines for energy production, that Island could be self sufficient if managed well.
you might be able to do geothermal energy for everything. Then you would need need to build buildings everywhere you wanted people to be. Which could be done. However, China is quickly running out of money to feed it's own people. America and Europe are talking "Decouple". China needs exports to survive, and nobody wants to do business in their country. So i'm not entirely sure what they're hoping to buy the island for. They will have it fished dry within 2 years.
Good point!
Access to Antarctic claims and deep sea mining.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
🇨🇳China can do it! 🇨🇳👏🏼👏🏼💪🏼🌞🕊
Eat Snakes
There's also a news that Taiwan is petitioning to become an overseas department of France similar to the petition made by the Lebanese after that huge explosion in Beirut in 2020 to put Lebanon under French mandate 🤪😝🤣😁
Good Idea.
China needs more
Support in Antarctica
Too.
such an island can be no less than a gold mine if rightly administered & utilized . . . €60.0 Bn is bit too much for an isolated island in the far Antarctic region . . .
Hawaii is a good candidate. China will immediately build the best high speed rail system and affordable housing for all people of Hawaii.
not until it get independent from the us
China should never buy this island. CHINA SHOULD CONCENTRATE all of it ENERGY onto space. Because SPACE IS THE FUTURE
The geographic position is the best part of this island. China is still predominantly trading via sea, and the island guards the southern seaways around Africa - the largest container ships can't move through either the Suez nor the Panama channel, so controlling the Magellan strait and the seaways in Southern Africa is going to be number one task for the "Eyes" to destroy China. Guess China will have hard time acquiring it if so. History is being made today, the future war with Taiwan is something we already know the way it will play.
the island has no natural resources... aside from vegetation, fish and penguins. Those seas are VERY VERY rough at times. Then if they're going to have a military base there, they have to bring in ALL supplies by ship. That costs money. A lot of money. Their Debit to GDP radio is around 900%, and it doesn't look like their Economy will be doing any better anytime soon.
France wants to sell at 60 billion Euros.
But at what price did France buy and from whom?
Back in the 1700s France was a colonial nation like most of West stealing, invading territories in others parts of the world.
Why help your ‘enemy’ paying 60 billions Euros for a ‘waste land’ when they desperate & broke.
Buy it when they are desperately desperate. 80% less maybe.
‘Why feed the mouth that bites you’
China helped US avoid default before, look what US had done to China now... Ungrateful bastards...
China is not not the enemy……. Just ask sth America, West Indies, Africa, ME, Asia and sth Pacific. USA is humanities problem.
It makes no sense unless it’s for military and surveillance purposes.
@@MrAmhara military base.
@@mikelloyd520 no military base. but station to track it satalite & space station, stop point for shipping refuel ect bonus maybe resource and fishery that china need
France will never sell the islands 😅😅😅 fierté française. We're a great country not for sale thanks
Kerguelen Islands is not very habitable, but it does provide cold desolate coastal land that China does not have. China has every other types of land. So China should buy it. China can use it to learn about cold water marine life and harsh cold weather living. It would provide good knowledge for China.
China has the third pole of the planet, Tibet plateau along with 1/3 of the Himalayas.
@@foodparadise5792 That is inland. Kerguelen is coastal and island.
@@danstenis660just wait until France is bankrupt, the offer will go down significantlu. That small island may go for 1B instead.
@@maertscisum China is helping France with trades since France is not bowing to the USA. Maybe in time, France will want to repay China back by dropping the price.
China should negotiate for 20 billion.
Yes, China should buy it. It would give it a foiothold in the Indian Ocean a passage to Antartica and Africa and extend it's military arm.
Yes should buy. But not 60 billion. 15 billion is ok.
@@prima7853 This island is not for sale ;) this video is a fake
60 billion Euro is a total crazy amount for an island of penguins. Rice can't be grown on the island and walrus meat isn't a favorite item on the menu for Chinese taste.
Eeexactly. I encourage everyone to take a look at what and where the Kerguelens are. Look at it, really takes no Einstein to see that any investment is a waste of money, literaly.
Oh and nevermind the walrusses on the Kergeulens are, like every other speciess,
under direct UNESCO protection 😉 You could not even set up a greenhouse there because of this. Nevermind that the island does not have enough sunlight for proper greenhouses and you would need to add artificial lighting anyway...
Honestly even a billion offered by Malaysia is too much 🤣 I am *not* kidding by the way since, literaly, you won´t see a single cent of your investment back...
@@thequantumalchemist2965 Totally agree with you. By the international laws, development on penguins homes is prohibited. Means building port and airport is prohibited on the island. Only stupid would buy such an island. How many fish have to be catch with value of 60 billions USD/EURO near the surrounding waters to the island?
It's probably a strategic investment. Nothing much US can do as the most busy body in the world as their superpower influence are dwindling.
The Kerguelens lay in the roaring forties. No it cannot and will not be suited as a geostrategic location either. Any port or airport you set up there is doomed to fail and most ships and airplanes will either crash/drown or take damage before they can even enter or leave said ports.
You will die before the US does.
I doubt China wants it for political or military reasons. China needs ground bases for its space expedition communications. This island would be one of the multiple locations it needs around the globe for 24/7 coverage.
Lol yeah right!
it would be much cheaper to build something in South Africa, and have a military base there protecting it from the locals...
@@daomingjin China is not interested in military bases on foreign soil. They have a supply base for container ship escort. But no military ambitions.
Pure bullshit video, In France the property of the State is inalienable and imprescriptible.
French want to build up china power to counter balance the US dictator. China should buy it and to help defense the aggressors.
If China sees it as useful and. Profitable and it fits their long term plans. And France really wants to sell it. Then china will start negotiations. But do not expect them to make a straight cash offer, they will tie it to some other project as well.
Its a fake, In France the property of the State is inalienable and imprescriptible.
China should buy it. China has no problem developing it and also making viable in every way.
China must buy this strategic Island. The hatsh climate and barren. Well there is nothing that China cannot overcome. This is a challenge that China needs. China is good in robotics use them.
Good location for nuclear subs. And Electronic station.
That could actualy work.... *If* there weren´t the small problem that even a submarine needs *a port.* And good luck trying to set up a port on the Kerguelens... You will need it... Oh and remember that I did try to warn people 🤷♂
China cannot turn it's air into clean or it's water into drinkable.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
France regardless of its Merits has Always Been the SHINING BEACON of INDEPENDENCE in Europe and the World!!!
...and pigs can fly...
Fake news! Les Kerguelen ne sont pas à vendre.
And none of that 60 billion will be used to help the struggling french people ......BS!
You got to ask yourself a fundamental question. Why is these islands like the Kerguelen which are ten of thousands of miles from France consider French and are undisputed and islands that are Claimed by China disputed??? And there are many more of these islands all over the world that are ten of thousands of miles from European Countries which are consider to belong to these European countries.
Very good comment 👍
Well, nobody was living there, so that is a big difference the Kergeulen Islands and Taiwan. If a country claims sovereignty and nobody disputes it, then it effectively belongs to that country. You're welcome to dispute it if you want to, if you can defend your claim with political or military means.
The people in government in Taiwan dispute China's sovereignty over them. Nobody in Kergeulen Islands or anywhere else disputes France's claim to the islands, so it belongs to France
@@thecurrentmoment Taiwan Legally belongs to China. So Taiwan's claim is China's claim. The questions remains. Why are the European and American's claims to all these islands are "legal" and China's claims are not! You should look at history as to how these European and American claims were made. They essentially discovered it and when back to Europe and told their fellow Europeans Countries and the Pope and it was not disputed and it was legal did they bother to tell India and China, NO. It is collusion, you don't dispute my claim I don't dispute yours. Well China did the same they discover these islands and went back and told the Chinese Emperor (equivalent to all Heads of State of Europe and the Pope).
If you read anything but propaganda, you'll know the answer.
The Kerguelen fake news is full of irony pointing at France. The real issue is South China Sea. There are many other countries involved. Let's just focus on the two.
Kerguelen is a former "terra nullius" (a vacant piece of land belonging to no one / or, a century ago, a territory deprived of any form of government). That's what the Spratlys used to be.
Kerguelen are a "sui generis" province of France, i.e. a province which has self-organized and acted as an administrative entity without ever being chartered/incorporated. That is what China (inacuretly) claim all of Taiwan Island was before China declared it a province of the Empire.
South China Sea is merely Chinese by name: there are so many neighboring countries in close vicinity of the uninhabited Paracels and Spratly islands (no permanent populations before the surge in testosterone levels). Some islands are closer to China; most islands have been visited by Chinese fishermen - among others - for ages, still.
China claim on the Spratly Islands dates back to the French-Chinese war. In 1884, France invaded Tonkin and Taiwan, as a result China incorporated Taiwan in its territory (for ten years before finally losing control of it). The 1885 French-Chinese Treaty did not mention the islands. Since France displayed interest for the South China Sea islands as well, China made sure they were labelled Chinese on Chinese maps.
The Paracels have long been formally claimed by China and Annam (a Chinese then French vassal state), there are legal grounds for both China and Vietnam. The Spratlys are a different story.
In 1932, France officially claimed the Spratly Islands due to its Tonkin colony. Great Britain approved the French claim. In 1933, China formally issued its own claim. France administered and occupied the islands till 1940 and then again after 1948. China sat foot on a Spratly island in 1950. When Vietnam accessed to independence, the Spratly islands were not explicitly incorporated into the Vietnam states. According to a diplomatic memo of the 1960ies, France claim on the Spratly was still legally, if not practically, valid.
The video on Kerguelen is just a reminder by China to France of how the "power of the day" can make a claim on a distant archipelago.
mepc.org/speeches/diplomacy-rocks-china-and-other-claimants-south-china-sea
@@guid4299 I know the answer and it is not propaganda. The short version is it is European and US conclusion among themselves.
I have never heard that the Kerguelen Islands are for sale, here in France. If that had been the case, it would have caused a lot of noise. It's a fake news
6:08 - - 16 million dollars, yes, but at their value in 1803. That amount was in that moment bigger than the GDP of the U.S. for a whole year, and the transaction was possible only because the money was raised in England.
Also, video's author does not explain that the "Louisiana" of 1803 is not the Louisiana state of today. The "Louisiana" of 1803 was a third of the continental U.S. of today (Alaska not being included).
The United States paid Louisiana with part of the French loan.
France provided the money, troops, armament, military leadership, and naval support that tipped the balance of military power in favor of the United States and paved the way for the Continental Army's eventual victory. We know all too well how bad diplomatic relations between France and the United States were until 1917. Napoleon knew how easily the United States can betray its friends. And that has never changed ...
How's about asking the french citizens what they think about this deal.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
i see this as a way for the Chinese to establish possibly a military base that can do many unforeseen things; however it is just my point of view. Same like what they did it the current scenario with Taiwan, they forcefully establish or perhaps built a artificial island of sort.
If man does not learn from his mistakes he is doomed to repeat them.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
If Nouvelle Calédonie for the same price, China maybe will take it.
If Tawain too... ah no Taiwan is a free country
I hope macron will be stopped by parliament and other politicians. This Island (I went there one month in Summer 1990) is a sanctuary and strategic place for France. There is no reason to sell it.
But I am very concerned, because this man is a solid bastard capable of anything....
Yes china should buy but must bargain to 30% of the price offered
Your counter price is too high,
Remember, France is getting ZERO, and shedding good money for this island maintenance.
China could help france ,
Rent the island for 300 yrs ,
1 million RMB annually for 300 yrs.
@@enzoh7763 that would be a good deal. After 300 years, France 🇫🇷 is no more. Then it will be legally China
China will make it possible for habitation
Yes, China should buy the island.
China is playing chess and Macron is playing with himself.
Its good deal for peace and stability in the EU countries..Long live china France friendship
I dont care about, Peace, Europe and China, and this is a Fake video.
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Not 60 billion. Perhaps 5 or 10 billion.
CHINA SHOULD BUY THIS ISLAND, IN THE DATES FROM 23 JULT TO 20 AUDUSTUS OF ANY YEAR. AVOID 17 AUGUSTS OR 17 IN ANY MONTH. BUT YOU CAN INSTEAD THE 8 IN ANY MONTH. THE 8 MADE UP OF ADDING UP OF 1 PLUS 7 = 8 IS CATASTROPHIC AT THE END NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF ANY PROJECT.
Time for your meds I think mate…….
hahaha, not before consulting fengshui expert, bro
Pure bullshit, In France the property of the State is inalienable and imprescriptible,
Sounds like a great buy for China to have a base in the Indian Ocean. China go for it. Let no one interfere except France the current occupant.
You are providing all information which i dont know.
Now, i make my decision. China must buy it immediately if China has the power to buy.
But not 60 billion.
How strange that no other media speaks about that ?
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
I have less information about China and Chinese people but being an Asian I know the Chinese mentality. It is an Asian mentality whether guided by communist or democratic ideology. Deep down it is different from the Western worldview of the world. Buying Kerguelen Island can not only help China but also world peace. Maybe it is a worthless piece of island for France but China can make it an important piece of land. Asian people are peace-loving people. They have a history of thousand years of civilization. They know how to live, thrive and help others. This is the beauty of Asian nations. We are proud of being Asian irrespective of where we are located. China and India are examples of Asia. Both are peace-loving nations.
Jesus... and exactly that is why China
does it correctly by having their meritocratic system in place... Indeed no matter how good the intentions are, only the smartest and brightest people are suited to govern a nation.
Let a 🤡
govern and you get
bad results always and every time...
This story is so strange. Never heard about this deal. And besides: 60 BILLION dollars for a deserted island with just some penguins? I don't believe it.
China would buy the island to connect to Africa Union in commercial shipping route. To build the commercial airport between Australia and South Africa.
there are only certain times of the year ships can go through those waters. So the amount of shipping that could be done is very very small
China should buy the island for its national security purpose.
Yup. Should buy. But negotiate for 20 billion.
15 or 10 billion.
China should buy Kerguelen Island it is of Great Strategic value. China has a great engineering capabilities can make their military base & Avoid annoyance of USA in the indian Ocean it also connected to Africa Ocean
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
FAKE video, In France the property of the State is inalienable and imprescriptible.
Russia should buy the island, just to use somehow the tens of billions of rupees that are piling up in India's banks, obtained from India for the discounted Russian petroleum. Now the Russian government has these tens of billions in rupees and and they are useless for any practical purpose.
Yes, China should buy the Kerguelen Islands. They can turn them into a Fantasy Island with Chinese's version of Mr Roake and Tattoo...👍👍👍👍👍
Of course China should buy it, and worry about any countermeasures later....
The islands of Amsterdam,St. Paul and Crozet ,all three part of the Kerguelen Archipelago belong to Mauritius!
No , they belong to France , it is in the "Terres Australes Francaises" like the Kerguelen
I think it's a fake news. I don't understand how modern france and it constitutional laws can sell a piece of territory. What are the source? Very weird statement come from nowhere
Australia should buy Kerguelen Island as an investment in the preservation of its national security. Perhaps France could have an "auction" and sell it to the highest bidder! The harshness of the climate and unsuitability of the island for economic development will keep the price well below 60 billion euros. China is also not going to pay top price for it. The suggestion in the video of using it for a submarine base is a good one.
But France hates Australia for cancelling the multibillion dollar submarine deal with France and that is why it intends to sell the island to China to counter Australia from the southwest. And France is the good friend and trading partner of China, China signed 40 billion dollar deal for purchasing 292 new planes from Airbus during Macron's recent visit to China.
In France the property of the State is inalienable and imprescriptible, this video is FAKE
I don't think China is interested - this small island isn't worth that much. Probably 1-2B will do.
Agree absolutely
May the good Lord continue to bless PRC and mother Russia and all the friendly nations
No one would spend so much money on an island that small and remote, even if it is for sale.
These islands provide solid foundation for China to build livable lands and military bases. With China's powerful of building infrastructures histories, these islands will be expand and become 2nd China far away from mainland China.
This video is a bullshit fiction propaganda. The french president can't decide by himself to sell a part of the french territory. It would be unconstitutional and an act of high treason.
Who gives France or anyone the right to "sell" this Island? France has not developed it or settled on it. It's completely barren. It should just go to whoever manages to make it a home.
In France the property of the State is inalienable and imprescriptible, fake video.
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This is complete BS. Macron has no power to relinquish sovereignty on any segment of the national territory.
Gérard Jacquemier
Just buy it for good will to the French People . Using the island harsh environment to simulate conditions in space is also possible. Buy at good discount
For good will to the French people? What if they demand it back for whatever reason in the future?
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Fake new! Comment imaginer que la France vendrait 1km² de ses terres?
The Chinese only wants the fish. Don't muddy the water and politicize everything.