Jesus is God. When the Mormons told me to pray to our Heavenly father and not Jesus that's when I knew we didn't worship the same God. I was going to get baptised in their church then they done a baptism interview with me which made me change my mind. The questions the elders asked me which were related to my past made me uncomfortable. Jesus said to believe and be baptised, no where in the Bible does it say be interviewed then if you pass we might just let you be baptised. I sinned in the past as I am not perfect which I already repented for. Why was it necessary to bring up my past to shame me? It was like all my efforts to live a good life and be the person I am today did not matter. The Mormons like the devil wanted to remind me I am a sinner...But the good news is I am saved through faith in Jesus as he died on the cross for me and his blood covers my debt. Great job man, keep it up 👍
@@prayerwarrior7778 why include a man's name in prayer? You should have no other God's before you. There is only one God, he was the same yesterday as he is today & will be eternally. Jesus is God that's why I pray to him. If he was just a man then including his name in prayer would be blasphemous.
Was Daniel the same man who met Jeff outside the temple and said that he was doubting the LDS church? If so, Amazing that he is now witnessing to mormons!
John 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. Revelation 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
I almost got baptised by the lds but then I said I believe in jesus and the father only not Russell Nelson or Joseph Smith and they cancelled my baptismal the day before and basically stopped any communication with me, to me that shows the disrespect they have for anyone else who believes in christ
Apologia are saying that we are not all the children of God but those that those who choose to follow God become his children. That spiritually born again concept is taught in the Bible; Matthew 5:9. But so is the truth that we are all literally the children of God; Acts 17:29.
Mormons put Jesus on a less like a Superman state sorry Mormons Jesus is almighty God he became God in the flesh John 1:14 supports this he is always God he has 2 natures Mormons reject Jesus who he really is.
Joseph Smith only ever told people to worship the Father and Jesus Christ, no strange gods. So he passed the test of Deuteronomy 13. What prophecies did Joseph Smith make that didn’t come true?
Apologia are now teaching the unbiblical doctrine of Christ giving us his righteousness. The way we become righteous is to keep the commandments. 1 John 3:7.
Apologia quote John 1 and say that says Jesus created all things that came into being. The most literal translation of John 1 says something very different; John 1 3. all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened.
Apologia say that they believe baptism is very important but it doesn’t get them into heaven. The Bible says Mark 16:16, John 3:5. Who’s preaching a different gospel now? Galatians 1:8.
Matthew Chapter 7 13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat Romans 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Apologia are quoting Isaiah 43:10 but not at all understanding the context of that scripture. Isaiah 40-46 is God telling ancient Israel that he is the only God they should be worshipping as the Israelites were worshipping idols.
No. He created all things and then gave them the freedom to choose how to act. To follow his ways or not follow his ways. So simple a child can understand it but these foolish guys can't.
@@truthseeker4286 the video clearly says even the elect don’t choose but God does. I think your theology contradicts itself on many levels. Maybe a man made definition of the Godhead is just that, men saying what they honestly believe.
@@ChristisLord2023Absolutely! Christ was fully God but also fully man! When He said the Son didn't know, He meant in His limited humanity. Clearly, the Son shares all knowledge with the father IN HIS GLORIFIED STATE!
Apologia are teaching the unbiblical doctrine of the trinity again. If Jesus and the Father are the same being why did Jesus say the Father was his God? John 20:17. If Jesus and the Father are the same being why did Jesus say the Father was greater than him? John 14:28. The Apostle Paul taught that our one God was the Father and our one Lord was Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 8:6.
If jesus was the creator how does he raise himself from the dead? The father raised jesus, jesus is the son of God who will rule over earth and God rules heaven they are separate jesus is not God but he is still important I see it as jesus the redeemer and future ruler of earth, the father God is immaterial above all
Would you say Jesus lied when He said "destroy this temple(speaking of His body before the cross) and I will raise it again in 3 days"? I don't think He did as He went to the cross sinless. So if He didn't lie, then He did what He said He would. You are correct that we also see it said that the Father raised Him from the dead, and we see that the Holy Spirit also raised Him from the dead. This would be a contradiction unless you understand the doctrine of the trinity.
Do you really believe that God would create a riddle to try and understand who he is? I’m being sincere here. It seems this is a demonstration of some kind of word game that is meant to never have a solid answer. One God but three separate Gods but not really but absolutely the same but different except not different but the same. Oh yeah and if you don’t agree that they’re the same but not the same but different in one you’re a son the devil. Mmmh. What’s so wrong with a faithful creation of God who sacrifices many things, even family sometimes to try and be faithful and receive Gods grace? Just because a person doesn’t recite the correct word riddle when he explains his belief in something that can’t be proven anyway doesn’t disqualify him for Gods grace.
Because a different view or concept of God is a different God. Think about it this way, without D and C 130:22 the LDS church would believe a triune view of the Godhead. Even the BOM teaches of a triune Godhead. But you seem to have a lot of questions, in my opinion this five minute video explains the trinity pretty well th-cam.com/video/nK0qmbVZk3c/w-d-xo.html But you can also ask my questions. We are triune beings as God is 1 Thess 5:23 Hebrews 4:12, Luke 1:46-47.
It’s not a riddle if we look at what the Bible says in context:) ALL of Christianity has always believed and held onto the trinity as being core doctrine.
@@dandelion1239 I never said beards were bad. Just that Apologia ministers want to grow their beards in the same long style that John Calvin grew his beard. They really seem to love John Calvin and idolise him somewhat.
Apologia are trying to convince these Latter Day Saints that they worship a Jesus who can’t save them because they worship a different Jesus than Apologia do. Wow. Apologia are very conceited and self righteous. Latter Day Saints worship the Jesus Christ who is the Son of God, came to earth and lived like a man, preached the Gospel, suffered and died for our sins and was resurrected three days later. What else really matters?
Latter Day Saints only worship the Father and Jesus Christ. The fact that there are many gods in existence and that men can become gods is very biblical; Deuteronomy 10:17, Joshua 22:22, Psalms 82:1, Psalms 82:6, Psalms 136:2, Daniel 11:36, Matthew 5:48, 10:34, John 17:22, Acts 17:29, Romans 8:17, 1 Corinthians 8:5,6. 2 Corinthians 3:18, Galatians 4:7, Ephesians 4:13, Philippians 2:5,6, 1 John 3:2, Revelation 3:21.
How about no how about we keep preaching to you cuz you need the gospel you never heard the real good news and he never given the chance and real opportunities since you don't know the opportunity is the real opportunity where it is to repent of this evil and come to real Christianity or something else
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That former LDS guy is an excellent example that I want to follow. Praise God for your work, brothers.
What a great guy, I hope he reads the Bible and lets Jesus speak for Himself.
Jesus is God. When the Mormons told me to pray to our Heavenly father and not Jesus that's when I knew we didn't worship the same God. I was going to get baptised in their church then they done a baptism interview with me which made me change my mind. The questions the elders asked me which were related to my past made me uncomfortable. Jesus said to believe and be baptised, no where in the Bible does it say be interviewed then if you pass we might just let you be baptised. I sinned in the past as I am not perfect which I already repented for. Why was it necessary to bring up my past to shame me? It was like all my efforts to live a good life and be the person I am today did not matter. The Mormons like the devil wanted to remind me I am a sinner...But the good news is I am saved through faith in Jesus as he died on the cross for me and his blood covers my debt. Great job man, keep it up 👍
You are absolutely correct. The force is strong with you :)
You will do be great in the kingdom.
“We pray to our Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ.”
@@prayerwarrior7778 why include a man's name in prayer? You should have no other God's before you. There is only one God, he was the same yesterday as he is today & will be eternally. Jesus is God that's why I pray to him. If he was just a man then including his name in prayer would be blasphemous.
@@naomiw5346 I agree. Jesus received worship Matt 2:11 Matt 14:33 Matt 28:17. If He wasn’t God made flesh then this is blasphemy
Jesus didn’t tell his followers to pray to him but the Father. Luke 11:1-2. Do you want Mormons to pray to the wrong person like you?
Great conversation! Nice to see this kind of interaction
Galations 1:8 Very straight forward
Jesus did come back in his generation in judgement against Israel at 70 A.D.
That’s crazy that you knew him! Wow!
Crazy right!! He was an awesome teacher too.
Was Daniel the same man who met Jeff outside the temple and said that he was doubting the LDS church? If so, Amazing that he is now witnessing to mormons!
Different Dan
Different because it’s the same one born again!!!!!
John 10:5
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Revelation 9:6
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Has anybody from this ward left after talking with you all yet? Not that it ultimately matters to you all’s faithfulness being out there at all
Yes I did leave the church
I just received my letter from church records because I had my name removed.
I almost got baptised by the lds but then I said I believe in jesus and the father only not Russell Nelson or Joseph Smith and they cancelled my baptismal the day before and basically stopped any communication with me, to me that shows the disrespect they have for anyone else who believes in christ
Good points.
Colossians 1 provides a context for “all things” that Jesus created i.e. all thrones, dominions, principalities and powers.
Apologia are saying that we are not all the children of God but those that those who choose to follow God become his children. That spiritually born again concept is taught in the Bible; Matthew 5:9. But so is the truth that we are all literally the children of God; Acts 17:29.
Mormons put Jesus on a less like a Superman state sorry Mormons Jesus is almighty God he became God in the flesh John 1:14 supports this he is always God he has 2 natures Mormons reject Jesus who he really is.
No they dont. It appears you are willfully ignorant.
Joseph Smith only ever told people to worship the Father and Jesus Christ, no strange gods. So he passed the test of Deuteronomy 13. What prophecies did Joseph Smith make that didn’t come true?
Apologia are now teaching the unbiblical doctrine of Christ giving us his righteousness. The way we become righteous is to keep the commandments. 1 John 3:7.
Apologia quote John 1 and say that says Jesus created all things that came into being. The most literal translation of John 1 says something very different; John 1
3. all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened.
Apologia say that they believe baptism is very important but it doesn’t get them into heaven. The Bible says Mark 16:16, John 3:5. Who’s preaching a different gospel now? Galatians 1:8.
Matthew
Chapter 7
13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat
Romans 3:8
And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Apologia are quoting Isaiah 43:10 but not at all understanding the context of that scripture. Isaiah 40-46 is God telling ancient Israel that he is the only God they should be worshipping as the Israelites were worshipping idols.
Who cares what you believe when God Himself disagrees with you?
Apologia say that the Jesus Latter Day Saints worship can’t save. Who are Apologia to put such limitations on Jesus Christ?
Because mormons don’t worship the real Jesus of the Bible.
Did Christ create all things including the reprobates?
Yes, absolutely everything.
No. He created all things and then gave them the freedom to choose how to act. To follow his ways or not follow his ways. So simple a child can understand it but these foolish guys can't.
@@truthseeker4286 the video clearly says even the elect don’t choose but God does. I think your theology contradicts itself on many levels. Maybe a man made definition of the Godhead is just that, men saying what they honestly believe.
@@truthseeker4286 Scripture to back that up?
No, Jesus did NOT say that at 3:55, because He said even the Son does not know the day or the hour Matt 24:36.
The son is God there’s no difference. God is the son and the Holy Ghost One Three individuals.
Understanding the incarnation is key here.
@@ChristisLord2023Absolutely! Christ was fully God but also fully man! When He said the Son didn't know, He meant in His limited humanity. Clearly, the Son shares all knowledge with the father IN HIS GLORIFIED STATE!
@@travisclouse3614 agreed.
Apologia are teaching the unbiblical doctrine of the trinity again. If Jesus and the Father are the same being why did Jesus say the Father was his God? John 20:17. If Jesus and the Father are the same being why did Jesus say the Father was greater than him? John 14:28. The Apostle Paul taught that our one God was the Father and our one Lord was Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 8:6.
If jesus was the creator how does he raise himself from the dead? The father raised jesus, jesus is the son of God who will rule over earth and God rules heaven they are separate jesus is not God but he is still important I see it as jesus the redeemer and future ruler of earth, the father God is immaterial above all
Would you say Jesus lied when He said "destroy this temple(speaking of His body before the cross) and I will raise it again in 3 days"? I don't think He did as He went to the cross sinless. So if He didn't lie, then He did what He said He would.
You are correct that we also see it said that the Father raised Him from the dead, and we see that the Holy Spirit also raised Him from the dead.
This would be a contradiction unless you understand the doctrine of the trinity.
Do you really believe that God would create a riddle to try and understand who he is? I’m being sincere here. It seems this is a demonstration of some kind of word game that is meant to never have a solid answer. One God but three separate Gods but not really but absolutely the same but different except not different but the same. Oh yeah and if you don’t agree that they’re the same but not the same but different in one you’re a son the devil. Mmmh. What’s so wrong with a faithful creation of God who sacrifices many things, even family sometimes to try and be faithful and receive Gods grace? Just because a person doesn’t recite the correct word riddle when he explains his belief in something that can’t be proven anyway doesn’t disqualify him for Gods grace.
Because a different view or concept of God is a different God. Think about it this way, without D and C 130:22 the LDS church would believe a triune view of the Godhead. Even the BOM teaches of a triune Godhead.
But you seem to have a lot of questions, in my opinion this five minute video explains the trinity pretty well
th-cam.com/video/nK0qmbVZk3c/w-d-xo.html
But you can also ask my questions. We are triune beings as God is 1 Thess 5:23 Hebrews 4:12, Luke 1:46-47.
It’s not a riddle if we look at what the Bible says in context:) ALL of Christianity has always believed and held onto the trinity as being core doctrine.
Apologia so idolise John Calvin with those beards.
So beards are bad? Hmmmmm…more than likely, Jesus had one too!!
@@dandelion1239 I never said beards were bad. Just that Apologia ministers want to grow their beards in the same long style that John Calvin grew his beard. They really seem to love John Calvin and idolise him somewhat.
@@AdamEyers Oh you’re a hoot!!!
Apologia are trying to convince these Latter Day Saints that they worship a Jesus who can’t save them because they worship a different Jesus than Apologia do. Wow. Apologia are very conceited and self righteous. Latter Day Saints worship the Jesus Christ who is the Son of God, came to earth and lived like a man, preached the Gospel, suffered and died for our sins and was resurrected three days later. What else really matters?
Latter Day Saints only worship the Father and Jesus Christ. The fact that there are many gods in existence and that men can become gods is very biblical; Deuteronomy 10:17, Joshua 22:22, Psalms 82:1, Psalms 82:6, Psalms 136:2, Daniel 11:36, Matthew 5:48, 10:34, John 17:22, Acts 17:29, Romans 8:17, 1 Corinthians 8:5,6. 2 Corinthians 3:18, Galatians 4:7, Ephesians 4:13, Philippians 2:5,6, 1 John 3:2, Revelation 3:21.
“No god formed before me nor shall there after me”
6 or 7 Calvinist heretics against one LDS! Shame be upon the heretics!
You need help and Jesus Christ can
I don’t see anything that’s Calvinist ok.
Muh heretic
Leave the LDS alone.
stop sending out missionaries preaching a false gospel
No
Leave the LDS alone.
How about no how about we keep preaching to you cuz you need the gospel you never heard the real good news and he never given the chance and real opportunities since you don't know the opportunity is the real opportunity where it is to repent of this evil and come to real Christianity or something else
Leave them to hell? Believe it or not these people love you guys.
@@PilotCristina Nonsense! I am not LDS.
They go to door to door like salesman and we, having the true gospel, should leave them alone?