It doesnt depend on alecto it depends on pvlace if the bridges are burnt hes the one who should deal with negative reaction regarding his behaviour in the past it shouldnt be the solution to be silent if someone acts unsocial because you dont want to lose your connection if its a valid connection it should persist but we dont know how much alecto knows so its just an assumption so i cant estimate how he should act and i also said its not always good its no absolute statement sometimes its better to observe a conflict from the outside so pls dont be mad✌️
So funny cuz he had a live where he was complaining about how everyone in rap wants simple loops, and he was basically trashing how simple everything was. While he’s not entirely wrong, it’s just funny how he was saying this while the whole time he was stealing most of his placements
This is really going to hurt me to say this especially to express this on an open platform but this is why you can't help my people. some of us not all, but some are just so trifling...
Man as a fellow creator who also goes thru the bs in music business, taken advantage and all but as a Club Euonia fan I hate to see y'all air this out on social media especially without both parties present. Otherwise it's just opinions, reactions and narratives.
"I already showed you how this is was my idea" yeah but like.. where? Literally 0 proof of it other than writing an artist lmao the only real proof would be him writing pvlace or another guy with an idea for it and not "are you still interested"
Only thing I’m saying is that if your making loops or even being a keyboardist your a songwriter and you deserve your credits and royalties regardless of someone else is putting in the leg work your deserve credits for sure now the royalty amount can be different bc your not making those connections with Artist and management…I will say this even if palace was making those connections I wouldn’t go for anything like this bc if your stealing my hard work I need to be compensated point blank I do see where some of you guys are saying that he’s mad bc he ain’t making money but if your so called day ones was stealing your stuff I’m pretty sure you guys would say something too
I think I expressed that I was grateful for everything, but it was all kind of pointless if my credits were being taken without my consent and then behind the scenes I was getting lies about clearing it up
@@llillico explain to me how he stole when they was working together pvlace was the one getting the placement with artists while gunboi was sitting on his ass
@@3GS634006 gunboi didn’t copyright anyone wtf are you talking about gunboi never took care of the business side of thing it looks like he wanted pvlace to spoon feed him the whole way through
@@will-sj7bi if gunboi is doin all the melody shit and pvlace the placement its like 50/50 work. its obvious that pvlace would be the one involved in that type of shit.
f@>k the money! yall make up as friends, business aside from each other! pvlace still wishing you well and he said he'll always have you in his heart. I don't know where that came from but sympathies with eactother . ya'll still young, prone to f@>k up and make mistakes.
@@boyindica wait did pvlace do wrong? He was the one getting the placements if pvlace wrong then almost everyone who uses sample and midis are wrong too. gunboi should’ve gotten his business right instead of being all goofy friendly from wait I’m hearing he help gunboi and now since he can’t help him no more no gunboi doing this
The man found him a yard and patterned him up so basically gunboi was a bum who pvlace saved 😂 deep it, this brudda has sorted him somewhere to live n these man are crying about credits on music that talks about killing n flossing on each other 😂 crying about a melody while pvlace is getting him a house to sleep in. Three necessities in life; food, water + shelter. I’m team pvlace he don’t have to say no more. Gunboi should be apologising. Bum ass
I paid all my bills and have no debts… if someone buys u a house and expects u to work for free then they’re making u a slave. I’m gonna get all my credits. If someone steals 100 dollars from u and then gives u 50 to help u is that help? Y’all are just okay with slavery
@@gunboi111 nah i own my house and don’t need no one. That callin people slaves and slavery shit is a kiddy mentality 🫠 It’s the culture you’re tryna be in tho, that is the funniest part of it all, flossin n ego driven but bummin off your bredrin. Lost and for what, not even 20k views independent. Im dead 🥹😂 if someone steals 100$ off me, imma go get mine regardless from somewhere else cause I ain’t relying on no one then when I see them in reality I’ll sort it out face to face on some real shit. This culture isn’t for the faint hearted, that’s why it’s always here today and gone tomorrow for most.
So basically it’s okay for people to steal music cause that’s what the industry is? Unfortunately for PVLACE my lawyers don’t agree and the songs are bein taken down
@@gunboi111 Dont listen to this dumb ass 😂 If these people are uneducated in this industry, you better dont take it personally. You wouldnt listen to a lifelong vegan how meat is supposed to taste. lol You deserve to get your credit & just saying he wishes well and helping you out in dark times, doesnt mean you owe him your life lol palace isnt the devil but he f**ked up and has to pay you back + has to gain back the trust. You got this 💪🏼 have a great day :)
This must be the most scuffed story of the whole Producer Community, in like ever
Its so distasteful 💔
@@jaburollup frfr
Props to Alecto For Being Unbaised
Idk if its always good it also happens if people dont want to have a look at the situation bec they avoid to become part of a conflict
@@NoPluggExtendo You're not wrong, some people dont pick sides so the door is never really closed and the bridge is never really burnt, facts bro
Bro is offended by my opinion 🥺🥺
It doesnt depend on alecto it depends on pvlace if the bridges are burnt hes the one who should deal with negative reaction regarding his behaviour in the past it shouldnt be the solution to be silent if someone acts unsocial because you dont want to lose your connection if its a valid connection it should persist but we dont know how much alecto knows so its just an assumption so i cant estimate how he should act and i also said its not always good its no absolute statement sometimes its better to observe a conflict from the outside so pls dont be mad✌️
@@NoPluggExtendo Who? I was agreeing
pvlace = Germany's best hiphop politician
So funny cuz he had a live where he was complaining about how everyone in rap wants simple loops, and he was basically trashing how simple everything was. While he’s not entirely wrong, it’s just funny how he was saying this while the whole time he was stealing most of his placements
Where is Pvlace now?
Bro made a whole new story...Wid da help of his lawyers
Bro a Storyteller
Pvlace or gunboi?
@@matthewsobers4402 def pvlace
@@matthewsobers4402 palace
Didnt Pvlace make money of 808Mafia‘s name?🤔
he is signed by 808 mafia
@@808TRW there was no legitimate contract
@@808TRW also Southside dont fuck with pvlace no mo
@@808TRW he was never officially signed and 808Mafia has cut all ties with him
yeah but like, no?
All the ones saying gunboi shouldn’t get credits never got a placement, prove me wrong.
I’m dead at palace buying these bots to make these comments defending himself. It’s so obvious what he is doing
Palace is snake and needs to be eradicated from the producer community
so no mention of trying to trademark 808 mafia without premission lol
Alta seid ihr alle behindert der hat einen Vertrag ... Das weißt du genau gunboi du labber Sack !
funny cause the last to words of your sentence is what his actual trademark is lol
@@ShantiMaria like 2min didn't even apologize for it
So crazy how he can blatantly lie to himself and everyone else when everyone can see the truth
One question did you make the melody of ästraight like that" by ty fontaine or pvlace?
yessir
this aged better than fine wine
?
STAY STRONG BRO SOLID DONT FOLD THE STRONG GON STAND TALL WE IN DIS BIT
Palace is just reading a statement 💀💀💀 is not even talking on his own 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️producers acting like politicians now how ridiculous
Pvlace: My dog steped on a beee....
😂 bro w reference
This is really going to hurt me to say this especially to express this on an open platform but this is why you can't help my people. some of us not all, but some are just so trifling...
80 percent of both Stories is irrelevant
Plot twist they're both friends and getting paper together
Man as a fellow creator who also goes thru the bs in music business, taken advantage and all but as a Club Euonia fan I hate to see y'all air this out on social media especially without both parties present. Otherwise it's just opinions, reactions and narratives.
If it was no work for hire he needs his credits and money point blank
Pvlace cap
"I already showed you how this is was my idea" yeah but like.. where? Literally 0 proof of it other than writing an artist lmao
the only real proof would be him writing pvlace or another guy with an idea for it and not "are you still interested"
when money comes and goes you see one's character traits thats a law
Gumboi you didn’t have your business together. Your part to blame.
Damn bro, that is crazy, I remember alotta shit, I can call cap on a lot of shit
We Are Artist!
Only thing I’m saying is that if your making loops or even being a keyboardist your a songwriter and you deserve your credits and royalties regardless of someone else is putting in the leg work your deserve credits for sure now the royalty amount can be different bc your not making those connections with Artist and management…I will say this even if palace was making those connections I wouldn’t go for anything like this bc if your stealing my hard work I need to be compensated point blank I do see where some of you guys are saying that he’s mad bc he ain’t making money but if your so called day ones was stealing your stuff I’m pretty sure you guys would say something too
I’m not saying to be ungrateful because palace def looked out for him but if someone is stealing my shit I ain’t going for it regardless
31:14that point is so big and his ungrateful ass just says blah blah blah watch out who y’all put on out there
I think I expressed that I was grateful for everything, but it was all kind of pointless if my credits were being taken without my consent and then behind the scenes I was getting lies about clearing it up
Bro he did a lot of beats for a Brazilian artist Called Sidoka, you can check it also, maybe there are some of your shit there 2
keep it up!
Where is his channel now though
Ah, i found it, almost all videos are hidden lol
th-cam.com/video/O9Q2xyej2yo/w-d-xo.html
stay up bro ❤️🙏🏾🔥🔥😂
Explain to me a how someone is a snake for helping you make over half a mil just of their name?
Genauuuuuu !!!
so tgat means he must not credit him
@@llillico explain to me how he stole when they was working together pvlace was the one getting the placement with artists while gunboi was sitting on his ass
@@llillico how did he not use permission 😂 they work together every fucking day gtfo
@@cookupskelly if gunboi knew actual music business he could’ve have all his credits on every single song but he don’t know shit
you make money of pvlace name.
Pvlace make money off of 808 name
@@midsidemidside no shit? pvlace was 808mafia gunboi wasnt..
Exactly, pvlace made gunboi and now he is bitching😂
And on top of that he fumbled the bag so hard with those NFTs 😂
doesnt justify not crediting
We need a gunboi nft now lmao
bro is only here for the money lmao
No Palace is only in it for the money that’s why he stole from gvnboi whilst claiming to be his friend
never saw such a cringe
Whole lot Cap 🧢 Pvlace come on bruv
So your broke now you tryna get royalties on your music
You know obviously shit… if you don’t hear what Gunboi says about it, why commenting? Go ride Denis dick
Your comment said everything... You didnt watch any of the proofs and just talk bullshit. Also it seems like you know nothing about copyright.
@@llillico he should’ve already got the business side took care of now he can’t do anything about he so he gotta take it to social media
@@3GS634006 gunboi didn’t copyright anyone wtf are you talking about gunboi never took care of the business side of thing it looks like he wanted pvlace to spoon feed him the whole way through
@@will-sj7bi if gunboi is doin all the melody shit and pvlace the placement its like 50/50 work. its obvious that pvlace would be the one involved in that type of shit.
These comments 😂😂😂 omm this shit 😝
f@>k the money! yall make up as friends, business aside from each other! pvlace still wishing you well and he said he'll always have you in his heart. I don't know where that came from but sympathies with eactother . ya'll still young, prone to f@>k up and make mistakes.
you make it seem like hes on some greedy shit, but when this shit happens for months / years then its no more just a "fuck up". Its fucking stealing.
Friends don’t steal from each other 🤡🤡🤡
Sheesh
If gunboi do this to everyone in the music industry they won’t fw him
Exposing them for doing wrong? The truth hurts buddy.
Huh???????
dnt be stupid
@@boyindica wait did pvlace do wrong? He was the one getting the placements if pvlace wrong then almost everyone who uses sample and midis are wrong too. gunboi should’ve gotten his business right instead of being all goofy friendly from wait I’m hearing he help gunboi and now since he can’t help him no more no gunboi doing this
@@boyindica I’m talking about for every problem he has he just going to expose everything if that was you, you wouldn’t want to work with him either
Waffen junge 😀
Blah blah blah
🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
The man found him a yard and patterned him up so basically gunboi was a bum who pvlace saved 😂 deep it, this brudda has sorted him somewhere to live n these man are crying about credits on music that talks about killing n flossing on each other 😂 crying about a melody while pvlace is getting him a house to sleep in. Three necessities in life; food, water + shelter. I’m team pvlace he don’t have to say no more. Gunboi should be apologising. Bum ass
I paid all my bills and have no debts… if someone buys u a house and expects u to work for free then they’re making u a slave. I’m gonna get all my credits. If someone steals 100 dollars from u and then gives u 50 to help u is that help? Y’all are just okay with slavery
@@gunboi111 nah i own my house and don’t need no one. That callin people slaves and slavery shit is a kiddy mentality 🫠 It’s the culture you’re tryna be in tho, that is the funniest part of it all, flossin n ego driven but bummin off your bredrin. Lost and for what, not even 20k views independent. Im dead 🥹😂 if someone steals 100$ off me, imma go get mine regardless from somewhere else cause I ain’t relying on no one then when I see them in reality I’ll sort it out face to face on some real shit. This culture isn’t for the faint hearted, that’s why it’s always here today and gone tomorrow for most.
So basically it’s okay for people to steal music cause that’s what the industry is? Unfortunately for PVLACE my lawyers don’t agree and the songs are bein taken down
And I was a bum? Remember I travelled to Germany on my own to travel the world. I’m from the states. Not something bums can do ;)
@@gunboi111 Dont listen to this dumb ass 😂 If these people are uneducated in this industry, you better dont take it personally. You wouldnt listen to a lifelong vegan how meat is supposed to taste. lol You deserve to get your credit & just saying he wishes well and helping you out in dark times, doesnt mean you owe him your life lol palace isnt the devil but he f**ked up and has to pay you back + has to gain back the trust. You got this 💪🏼 have a great day :)
yo gunboi you expose yourself lol