Hi Rob, thanks for your help in the marina. Hauled out this morning and it was a barnacle build up on the propeller, can’t quite believe it! Returning at a later date to do the crossing. In hindsight, should’ve had a scrub before setting off. Cheers, jack, Dave and Rick
Hi again, Rob, from Cádiz. My engine starter just failed today and I remembered I had seen a video on this topic on your channel. So here I am again thanking you for your generosity and quality videos! Cheers from Spain!
Hi Rob, Thanks for the video, I have a VP 2003 circa 1993, probably one of the last few made. It's pretty much ok at the moment but i do worry about things like the starter motor so this video has been very useful. If I get problems with it, I know where to look. Interesting that you can get pattern replacements for the starter motor. Are there any other parts that work ?. I've moved away from the genuine VP filters and saved a lot. I also found a source for raw water impellors. Take care, you're doing well, I wouldn't have known about your stroke if I hadn't read your about message. Onwards and upwards Eh! Best Wishes Dave
Hi Dave, I started making these videos after my stroke to remember what I'd done. It's nice to see boat owners benefiting from watching them. Regarding the pattern replacement. I carry one in my spares box, you never know! I'd recommend cutting down a 10mm hex key too. Cheers, Rob
The helical gear box is the common problem with this starter. You did not mention that you have a isolatated starter motor ( Minus on the rear on the starter). Some VP engines are isolated, which means the engine block has no connection to the battery. Alternator is also isolated and you should have seen one wire is going from the starter motor to the alternator (minus). This was done by VP to minimize corrosition. It´s a very bad idea to change the alternator to a none isolated car alternator. If you do so, you need a 200A relais in the minus line. It´s done often without a relais and results in a defect oil cooler or a corroded hear exchanger. Minus connection to the engine block is only during the start operation when the starter is engaged.
Please correct the exchange of the starter motor and make people aware that there is a none isolated version. The heat exchanger and oil cooler are yery expensiv parts....even the cooling water on the 2003(t) goes through a cooper pipe in the gearbox. I keep always a spare starter motor on board ( died twice already)
Hi Frank, that’s an interesting point about the earthing point at the back of the starter. It was connected to a strap attached to one of the bolts on the engine mount. A large negative cable runs from the engine block directly to the starting battery. I get your point about the alternator and corrosion, were there many VP engines fitted with this model starter system?
@@sailingwithus5743 Hi Rob, most boats equiped with a sail drive should have an isolated engine. Quit easy to spot, the sensors (Oil and water temp have two wires). In the VP operating manual you find two circurit diagrams, one for single pole and the other for double pole which is the isolated version. VP did this for a reason, every where in the engine are different types of metal are used. When you look at the MS2A gearbox cooper pipe aluminium housing, same with the oil cooler and heat exchanger. There are lots of people which are having problems with corrosion on the sail drive, oil cooler and heat exchanger. If you search the internet you will find many . Saw your videos...did you check your circular water pump (internal cooling) for a loose shaft?? If the belt was always tied, it destroyes the bearing on the circular Pump. The pulley feels wickley. A new pump at Volvo Penta is € 2000, which is a rip off. My engine is a VP2003T and I had to fix already both pumps. I have motored over 4000 hours, Moody 34 build 1986.
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Shame you are not my neighbour in the marina- you really are a great source of knowledge !!
Always great to see your videos !
Fair winds
Hi zero-to-sailor, thanks for the feedback. Rob
Hi Rob, thanks for your help in the marina. Hauled out this morning and it was a barnacle build up on the propeller, can’t quite believe it! Returning at a later date to do the crossing. In hindsight, should’ve had a scrub before setting off.
Cheers, jack, Dave and Rick
Did you make it back to Chichester successfully.
We were correct the engine was smoking under excessive load.
Hi again, Rob, from Cádiz. My engine starter just failed today and I remembered I had seen a video on this topic on your channel. So here I am again thanking you for your generosity and quality videos! Cheers from Spain!
Quick question, was it the starter motor gearbox or an electrical issue? My next video is probably fixing an oil leal so lookout. 😀
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Not sure of the issue. Next weekend I will check it out after following the indications from your video: solenoid, etc.
Can confirm, a big hassle with the heat exchanger.
Hi Rob, Thanks for the video, I have a VP 2003 circa 1993, probably one of the last few made. It's pretty much ok at the moment but i do worry about things like the starter motor so this video has been very useful. If I get problems with it, I know where to look. Interesting that you can get pattern replacements for the starter motor. Are there any other parts that work ?. I've moved away from the genuine VP filters and saved a lot. I also found a source for raw water impellors.
Take care, you're doing well, I wouldn't have known about your stroke if I hadn't read your about message. Onwards and upwards Eh! Best Wishes Dave
Hi Dave, I started making these videos after my stroke to remember what I'd done. It's nice to see boat owners benefiting from watching them.
Regarding the pattern replacement. I carry one in my spares box, you never know!
I'd recommend cutting down a 10mm hex key too.
Cheers, Rob
The helical gear box is the common problem with this starter. You did not mention that you have a isolatated starter motor ( Minus on the rear on the starter). Some VP engines are isolated, which means the engine block has no connection to the battery. Alternator is also isolated and you should have seen one wire is going from the starter motor to the alternator (minus). This was done by VP to minimize corrosition. It´s a very bad idea to change the alternator to a none isolated car alternator. If you do so, you need a 200A relais in the minus line. It´s done often without a relais and results in a defect oil cooler or a corroded hear exchanger. Minus connection to the engine block is only during the start operation when the starter is engaged.
Please correct the exchange of the starter motor and make people aware that there is a none isolated version. The heat exchanger and oil cooler are yery expensiv parts....even the cooling water on the 2003(t) goes through a cooper pipe in the gearbox. I keep always a spare starter motor on board ( died twice already)
Hi Frank, that’s an interesting point about the earthing point at the back of the starter. It was connected to a strap attached to one of the bolts on the engine mount.
A large negative cable runs from the engine block directly to the starting battery.
I get your point about the alternator and corrosion, were there many VP engines fitted with this model starter system?
@@sailingwithus5743 Hi Rob,
most boats equiped with a sail drive should have an isolated engine. Quit easy to spot, the sensors (Oil and water temp have two wires). In the VP operating manual you find two circurit diagrams, one for single pole and the other for double pole which is the isolated version.
VP did this for a reason, every where in the engine are different types of metal are used. When you look at the MS2A gearbox cooper pipe aluminium housing, same with the oil cooler and heat exchanger. There are lots of people which are having problems with corrosion on the sail drive, oil cooler and heat exchanger. If you search the internet you will find many . Saw your videos...did you check your circular water pump (internal cooling) for a loose shaft?? If the belt was always tied, it destroyes the bearing on the circular Pump. The pulley feels wickley. A new pump at Volvo Penta is € 2000, which is a rip off. My engine is a VP2003T and I had to fix already both pumps. I have motored over 4000 hours, Moody 34 build 1986.
Well made video
Thanks, hope you found it useful.
Good stuff, as you well know, if you put marine in front of any part it quadruple s in price 😂😂😂😂😂
Hi sailingceltic, totally agree anything about boats is expensive, especially if it's stainless steel!