Agreed but then if you save ypur home town as much as Hawke and Varric did together it's bound to build comraderie.after all it was ripped apart first by the Qunari and then by the conflict between the Mages and Templars. The 2 of them had to battle all the way through that. In fact this was how I approached the situation too as the inquisitor. It wasn't Varric's fault he was just protecting Hawke as they were friends. Hawke helped Varric out in a number of situations like with his brother and the red lyrium. Varric helped Hawke when he came to Kirkwall at the start of the DA2 story as well and all that so they were always there for each other like a true friend should be.
sjsharp2007 i saw it more as a Debt that couldnt be repayed i mean if you look at the whole of Hawke's life Varric litteraly Blames himself First was Bartrend locking them in the deeproads and next and this is what REALLY hit varric is Hawke's Mother now remeber BEFORE she was re Raised she was "unseen" and invisable But once she became a noble lady again that Killer/insane necromancer found her and that was the 2nd blow Varric took 3rd and lastly was blonde depending on WHO you have left ((bethany or Carver)) Anders littleraly PUTS them into danger ((if they are not greywarden)) anders who knows your sister is a mage or brother is a templar just littleraly put them in harms way and Hawke has fought tooth nail and soul to keep them safe HELL everyone of her companions has Varric buys off Templars to ease off Bethany and provider her with some "comfert" Averline keeps tabs on Carver and so on down the Line for them to be put in danger after 3 attempts to repay hawke for funding 1 simple investment into the deeproads its a Debt Varric could only Repay by keeping the Seeker and the chantry Away from her ...hell i'm willing to be if Cassandra had been not as composed and just as she is ..she would have killed him and varric ..would have let her because he was protecting and repaying that Debt
"It had better not be who I think it is. I will wring that little bastard's neck." God, this line had me rolling. Cassandra and Varric's contentiousness is probably one of the highlights of the entire series, along with Shale's snark and Cole's Cole-ness.
This really shows the immense bond of friendship Varric and Hawke had developed over the events of DA2. “I *want* this story to be told.” And all things considered, what Varric witnessed during those events, the last thing he wants is to lose another friend. And such EXCELLENT voice acting that has brought these characters to life!
Varric had the right to keep Hawke away from the Inquisition. Varric was literally protecting his family and that speaks louder then what the Inquisition would have ever been able to do for him.
By that point Hawke was largely all the family he had, he was always distant from his other family, one way or other lost Bartrand forever. Hawke was closest he had to brother/sister, a family. I believe Varric is right, if Hawke was at Conclave, it would probably end badly for him/her.
If you pcik "What's done is done." Cassandra will actually get really choked up, it really broke my heart that I couldn't hug her after this confrontation because she blames herself so much for what's happening to Thedas.
considering the crap varric unwittingly gave to hawke that started at the deep roads expedition.... and he/she was already worn out after the events of DAII, i think i'll go with varric's side on that conflict. hawke needs a break, really.
The minute I heard all the commotion from the tables and chairs at 2:03 I busted up laughing, I was like "oh crap! She's beating the hell out of him!" hahaha.
I've discovered that if Cassandra's approval is high enough prior her cutscene with Varric, she reacts differently to his deception. She still tries to punch him at first, but she's more forgiving. Though it's pretty hard to get her approval that high by this point (probably easier if you side with the templars).
It’s actually not that hard to get it high enough. However it takes a full completion of all the side quests in the Hinterlands and fully committing to being the Herald of Andraste though.
@@ArashiGalaxy still plausible to do. Just be nice to Cassandra and display some humility to her while in public just support the Chantry but don’t be a fanatic. It’s a bit more effort but also the what you stand for speech matters just a bit more. Standing for order wins you some approval from her as well. I did manage while allying with the mages and gotten close to max approval with all my companions. Cassandra is remarkably easy. Also before talking to Hawke for the first time start on her personal quests. Major approval points while she’s in the party when doing those. Also the very beginning gives a lot of early approval for her. Just be willing to help out. If not a mage then disarm when she demands it. If mage you can point the obvious to her with the mage dialogue for small gains.
@@TheGeoCheese I believe she actually slightly disapproves if you are a mage and try to point out the obvious, as she says something along the lines of "Is that supposed to reassure me?"
It's very possible they intended to do a different game with different situations then what we got in Inquisition when Dragon Age 2. From what I think Dragon Age 2 wasn't that well received so they let the fandom cool down. I imagine they wanted to do a story in a 3 that would have connected both the Hero and Champion in the story that had been imprisoned by a force stronger then both of them. If we look at the ending of the Legacy DLC it is hinted that Larius spoke and acted differently. I think Corepheus had taken over his body(Which I even think is mentioned in Inquisition). Sadly we may never see the Hero in any of the games outside messages or mentions. I think they honestly need to let us play as the Hero or the "Warden-Commander" from Awakening depending of if you want a Fereldin Warden or Orlesian. It would be a way to show them rebuilding the order of Wardens after what they did in Inquisition.
Both Varric and Cassandra are really quite alike...they just find themselves at odds doing what they feel is right. Glad to find that by the end of the story, they've become shaky friends.
I called it when Varric talked about that friend, since I had completed Dragon Age 2 earlier, and of course, cheered when I saw my Hawke return. Then I realized that Cass was going to go batshit on Varric.
Nah. Not really, especially at Cassandra's point. She didn't convey well her real intention of why she interrogated Varric. Judging by her antagonistic approach back at DAII, it's natural for Varric to assume for the worst that they would going to arrest Hawke. Regardless of Hawke's stance in the Kirkwall crisis, they're on hot water with the Chantry. It didn't help that Cassandra's approach to the war is quite short-sighted. I'm sorry, but I'm going to side with Varric in this one. Cassandra can't bully her way to get what she wants no matter how well-intentioned she is.
Conflicts between companions always made things interesting, especially when they were both in the right in their own ways. In Veilguard there's no conflict, and most of the companions are boring af.
I kinda find it incredibly laughable that Cassandra not only wanted Hawke to be at the conclave but also the inquisitor. Since Hawke is a fully customizable character it, of course, depends on the character, but mine was a fierce mage freedom supporter, though he was less vocal about it unless he got pushed. During the conclave, he would've lost his shit and as the inquisitor, he would've made so many people angry XD
So is this, what writers of this game came up with...to explain why Hawke is not the inquisitor? Lol guessing they knew we could never be mad at Varric :P
These two were what I was looking forward to the most. When I got to this scene, I was laughing because I finished DA2 just two months ago and the memories were still fresh.
Hrm. A thought occurs: If Cassandra and Leliana had found the HoF before the Conclave, they stood a very good chance of being suborned by Corypheus and the Nightmare.
@@labradude yeah, but Wardens that get close to Corypheus get severely weakened and controlled by Corypheus directly. Not just the false calling. Just look at Anders in Legacy. Defintely the least suited to fight Corypheus is HoF
Possibly not if the warden allowed avernus continue his experimentation or/and drank his potion which gave him control or at least some control over taint. Avernus was able to postpone his calling and prolong his life for about 200 years. So possibly such warden would have control over own taint to degree that would render Corypheus unable to control them but that's just my speculation.
Indeed. And Leliana does the same way as well post-Here Lies the Abyss about why they are alive and Justinia wasn't. It rubs me the wrong way because it tells me that she would rather have the Inquisitor dead to save Justinia. Really, the Inquisitor is nothing but a figurehead because the legitimate leaders of that organization are cowards who can't make big choices and stick to the consequences.
Varric and Hawke have a chemistry together that's really good and i'd say even Merrill fits inbetween with both varric and hawke himself, they're all sarcastic and snarky and friendly and witty and cute
@@yoursonisold8743 His luck tends to get him in trouble though. Unless Hawke is the one that walks in when Corypheus is doing his ritual, he dies. And we have no reason to believe that Hawke's presence would have changed that.
Varric fighting Corypheus for the first time: IF HE PULLS A DRAGON OUT OF HIS ASS I’M OUTTA HERE And then Corypheus comes back after pulling a fake Archdemon out of his ass. Thanks for giving the bad guy ideas, Varric
Varric is like Tyrion with combat skills and has his own Varys-esque network, only his better nature tends to be more on display, but still. 2011 gave us two great dwarves!
Here's a thought... What if the next Dragon Age game introduces a new character who acts as lead and the only party possible will have, The New Character (possibly a rogue elven god, or an ancient elvenmage) Hero of Ferelden Hawke The Inquisitor (maybe with his hand somehow)
to be fair, I cant blame varric at all for keeping things from the inquisition, quite specifically cassandra. something about beatings and death threats tend to generate trust issues.
I think if Hawke had been at the Conclave, he would've walked in on Cory murdering the Divine. I'm just curious if Hawke would've picked up the orb, or would he be smart enough to just keep it away from everyone in the fight? Who knows, Hawke may have just died because he wouldn't be wandering around like Inky
Knowing what he/she knows about Magic, he'd/she'd probably have had a PTSD moment and stood there blankly. To be truthful the Inquisitor had the option of not know what the fuck was going on and just reacted on instinct.
kind of funny that they'd think Hawke would have made a difference considering that their decisions and actions had no effect on what happened whatsoever at any point in their story
Hawke was only viscount for like a year or so before he bailed and it was uneventful. I don't think there are many mentions of that in Inquisition at all.
aoibhealfae He stayed Viscount for about a month before he found out the Templars were ingesting red lyrium, which made them all suspicious of Hawke, like Knight-Commander Meredith. Eventually, he got sick of it, and he and his friends went their separate ways.
The idea of Cassandra expecting the HoF - who is potentially the queen/prince-consort of a whole ass country in addition to being warden-commander - to be willing to drop everything to become the leader of her militant religious cult is hilarious.
To be honest, if my Hawkes and Cassandra meet, I don't think it will end well for the latter. Also, I don't really think Cassandra understood Hawke's actions at all despite Varric telling her the account of what truly happened. I don't think a Hawke who sided with the mages and supported Anders' bombing of the Chantry in response to Meredith illegally invoking the Annulment would ever accept becoming the Inquisitor. And if Cassandra will do her usual schtick, then she better prepare to get sucked on a fireball or get stabbed in the back, as in case to my Hawkes.
Have you tried out the option 'stay out of it' when they're fighting or already made a video of it? It's hilarious xDD Varric disapproves ofc but I couldn't stop laughing for a minute at what Cass was doing.
Varric was right, had Hawke been the Inqusitor, he/she would have died in the conclave and the Inquisition would have ended before it even began. Also it's funny how Cassandra, I won't say hate but tolerate Varric, yet she is a fan of his book. 😂
What does Cassandra ever thinking that her actions back at DAII will make Varric spill Hawke's whereabouts, especially when said person is directly challenging the Chantry authority? Sorry, Cass, but I'll side with Varric on that one even if I have higher approval from you.
I really don't see why was Hawke "desperately needed" for all of Thedas. What did he do? WHat made him the obvious pick for the Inquisitor? He didn't even start the Mage Rebellion, he was just a small part of it. Anders started it, regardless of Hawke's choices. And Hawke was a champion of a city, but I'm sure other cities had champions of their own. And there are like a bunch of cities beside Kirkwall. And it is not even about Corypheus, as Cassandra says Hawke was needed even before the Breach happened. What made him so relevant before the events of Inquisition?
+Bindair Dundat He was basically the hero of the second story in the series. She sincerely believed that he would have been a better, battle hardened leader to have at the head of the Inquisition...a better "chosen one"; so to speak due to already going through the whole "OH GOD THE WORLD IS GONNA END GOTTA SAVE IT!" whole thing previously. And plus...at least in my game...I'm a Qunari that was palling around as a naer-do-well with Varric before the whole place blew up..so it figures Miss Seeker wouldn't exactly think I was fit for the job.
Tecnically, Hawke is the Plan B when the Hero of Ferelden (if (s)he is alive) is not found. And I've always wondered why Cassandra and the Divine believed that Hero of Ferelden would agree to be an Inquisitor.
@@varric They needed a leader and the Hero of Ferelden was succesful in ending a Blight with limited resources and only in one year. Hawke was the second option because he could act on behalf of one of the two groups to make peace.
@@juanlaise1059 Dude, read better before posting something. I said: "why Cassandra and the Divine believed that Hero of Ferelden WOULD AGREE to be an Inquisitor."
@@varric Why wouldn't he? It's not like there was another Blight and he was particularly busy. Besides, he already had connections which would have made the job easier(until Corypheus took over him, that is).
Where are the morrigan cameos? if you haven't yet done them, can you ask her if the warden is her husband? i saw it as a dialogue option in another video but the user clicked the option congratulating morrigan on having someone special.
ben reeves Well, both of them are important, really. One saves Ferelden (and the rest of Thedas) from the Darkspawn by killing the Archdemon. The other basically has a 'rags to riches' story in that they save their city from the Qunari, and were a key figure in the Mage/Templar War. Plus, I think Hawke touched a lot more people's lives than the Warden.
Yami Long one save a small town and barely only few thousand people live in it (even if templar and mage started war in kirtwall doesn do much damage between orlais and ferelden just an one city get corrupted)one save the whole kingdom and possibly saved all the world how could a small hawke comapre to big hero of ferelden
But there are mages and Templars all over Thedas, even in Orlais. When the Circle in Kirkwall rebelled, the rest of the Circles followed suit. At the center of it all was the Champion, a.k.a. Hawke. The Warden was only doing what Wardens are supposed to: stopping the Blight. Hawke did what he/she felt was right. And even though Kirkwall is small, you can't deny that a lot of the events that happened there rocked the rest of Thedas.
Yami Long if circle was that strong to started a rebelion war why would their life controlled by templar they should started it long ago but in the end they are all controlled by Corypheus
Tecnically, Hawke don't start anything. Is Anders and his stupid bomb, the Meredith's disproportionate response (bring the Right of Annulment to an entire Circle for the crimes of an apostate) and the Lord Seeker Lamberts's actions in Asunder is the true reasson for the very start of the Mage/Templar War.
wait a Minute,wasnt the only way to survive killing the archfiend to make that twisted pact with morrigan? how could the hero of fereldon live and be a woman?or are they assuming that you made alistair/loghain take the kill?
I'm pretty sure that if you don't import a DA:O save the canon is that the HoF dies. For a female HoF you have Alistair sleep with Morrigan to make her pregnant and have the Old God baby
very hearthwarming that varric protects Hawke so much.... they are like brothers.
or family depending on the gender :D
Later it might become ... heartbreaking.
InkOnTube Oh shut up... no spoilers here :'(
Agreed but then if you save ypur home town as much as Hawke and Varric did together it's bound to build comraderie.after all it was ripped apart first by the Qunari and then by the conflict between the Mages and Templars. The 2 of them had to battle all the way through that. In fact this was how I approached the situation too as the inquisitor. It wasn't Varric's fault he was just protecting Hawke as they were friends. Hawke helped Varric out in a number of situations like with his brother and the red lyrium. Varric helped Hawke when he came to Kirkwall at the start of the DA2 story as well and all that so they were always there for each other like a true friend should be.
sjsharp2007
i saw it more as a Debt that couldnt be repayed i mean if you look at the whole of Hawke's life Varric litteraly Blames himself First was Bartrend locking them in the deeproads and next and this is what REALLY hit varric is Hawke's Mother now remeber BEFORE she was re Raised she was "unseen" and invisable But once she became a noble lady again that Killer/insane necromancer found her and that was the 2nd blow Varric took 3rd and lastly was blonde depending on WHO you have left ((bethany or Carver)) Anders littleraly PUTS them into danger ((if they are not greywarden)) anders who knows your sister is a mage or brother is a templar just littleraly put them in harms way and Hawke has fought tooth nail and soul to keep them safe HELL everyone of her companions has Varric buys off Templars to ease off Bethany and provider her with some "comfert" Averline keeps tabs on Carver and so on down the Line for them to be put in danger after 3 attempts to repay hawke for funding 1 simple investment into the deeproads its a Debt Varric could only Repay by keeping the Seeker and the chantry Away from her ...hell i'm willing to be if Cassandra had been not as composed and just as she is ..she would have killed him and varric ..would have let her because he was protecting and repaying that Debt
Bros before...uh seekers, true friend right there.
I ain't even mad for not being able to romance Varic as Hawke. This scene was hillarious xD
"It had better not be who I think it is. I will wring that little bastard's neck."
God, this line had me rolling. Cassandra and Varric's contentiousness is probably one of the highlights of the entire series, along with Shale's snark and Cole's Cole-ness.
I wanted to give Varric a big hug after that. I always knew he was Hawke's most loyal friend, whatever happened. You're my bro forever, Varric!
From a group that always brings excellent voice acting, they really went over the top with this one.
"You know what I think? If Hawke had been at the temple, he'd be dead too. You people have done enough to him." Just perfect writing.
The female british voice actor is amazing in this scene. Especially when she starts screaming for them to stop. That was so good.
@@VenhedisKaffas I know this is old, but honestly both British VAs killed it during that line.
I love the writers who made this scene and vioce actors performance. It move me so.
^
Especially Brian Bloom's performance. Him, Valentine and Claudia all deserve Game awards for Best Supporting Characters.
«You people have done enough to him»
This line gets me every time
Aye,
He/she lost the brother, mom and sister (depending on the game choices)
And anders blew up everything, hawke deserved a rest
If Hawks was at the conclave
Cory-face: divine, time to sacrifice yourself for the greater good.
Hawke appear: oh shit. I thought I kill you
explodes
ALLAH AKBAR!
+Darkwolf523 *sad violin music*
This really shows the immense bond of friendship Varric and Hawke had developed over the events of DA2. “I *want* this story to be told.” And all things considered, what Varric witnessed during those events, the last thing he wants is to lose another friend. And such EXCELLENT voice acting that has brought these characters to life!
"You conniving little shit !"
Hah, one of my fav lines in this game :D the way Cassandra scream it is just good.
Varric had the right to keep Hawke away from the Inquisition. Varric was literally protecting his family and that speaks louder then what the Inquisition would have ever been able to do for him.
By that point Hawke was largely all the family he had, he was always distant from his other family, one way or other lost Bartrand forever. Hawke was closest he had to brother/sister, a family.
I believe Varric is right, if Hawke was at Conclave, it would probably end badly for him/her.
If you pcik "What's done is done." Cassandra will actually get really choked up, it really broke my heart that I couldn't hug her after this confrontation because she blames herself so much for what's happening to Thedas.
considering the crap varric unwittingly gave to hawke that started at the deep roads expedition.... and he/she was already worn out after the events of DAII, i think i'll go with varric's side on that conflict. hawke needs a break, really.
The minute I heard all the commotion from the tables and chairs at 2:03 I busted up laughing, I was like "oh crap! She's beating the hell out of him!" hahaha.
You people have done enough to him (Varric sassy walk)
I noticed that too 😂
I've discovered that if Cassandra's approval is high enough prior her cutscene with Varric, she reacts differently to his deception. She still tries to punch him at first, but she's more forgiving. Though it's pretty hard to get her approval that high by this point (probably easier if you side with the templars).
It’s actually not that hard to get it high enough. However it takes a full completion of all the side quests in the Hinterlands and fully committing to being the Herald of Andraste though.
@@TheGeoCheese yeah, exactly. And if your Inquisitor is not a Chantry fanatic...
@@ArashiGalaxy still plausible to do. Just be nice to Cassandra and display some humility to her while in public just support the Chantry but don’t be a fanatic. It’s a bit more effort but also the what you stand for speech matters just a bit more. Standing for order wins you some approval from her as well.
I did manage while allying with the mages and gotten close to max approval with all my companions. Cassandra is remarkably easy. Also before talking to Hawke for the first time start on her personal quests. Major approval points while she’s in the party when doing those.
Also the very beginning gives a lot of early approval for her. Just be willing to help out. If not a mage then disarm when she demands it. If mage you can point the obvious to her with the mage dialogue for small gains.
@@TheGeoCheese I believe she actually slightly disapproves if you are a mage and try to point out the obvious, as she says something along the lines of "Is that supposed to reassure me?"
To be fair as much as I love Varric. I think Cassandra has a point here, but it's understandable why Varric would keep secret about Hawke earlier.
You and I aren't supposed to be here >_>
DAMNIT SHEOGORATH! What did i tell you about crossing dimensions!?
It's very possible they intended to do a different game with different situations then what we got in Inquisition when Dragon Age 2. From what I think Dragon Age 2 wasn't that well received so they let the fandom cool down. I imagine they wanted to do a story in a 3 that would have connected both the Hero and Champion in the story that had been imprisoned by a force stronger then both of them. If we look at the ending of the Legacy DLC it is hinted that Larius spoke and acted differently. I think Corepheus had taken over his body(Which I even think is mentioned in Inquisition). Sadly we may never see the Hero in any of the games outside messages or mentions.
I think they honestly need to let us play as the Hero or the "Warden-Commander" from Awakening depending of if you want a Fereldin Warden or Orlesian. It would be a way to show them rebuilding the order of Wardens after what they did in Inquisition.
Lord Sheogorath and i thought i would read a very serious discussion here.... O.O
Baked Potatoes Ha! With Sheogorath? Never with him!
Both Varric and Cassandra are really quite alike...they just find themselves at odds doing what they feel is right. Glad to find that by the end of the story, they've become shaky friends.
I love how Varric didn’t even need to duck from Cassandra’s punch. XD
“I keep hoping... none of this is real.... Maybe it’s all some bullshit from the Fade, and it’ll jus disappear.”
- Basically me in 2020
Same...
Greetings from 2022.
I called it when Varric talked about that friend, since I had completed Dragon Age 2 earlier, and of course, cheered when I saw my Hawke return. Then I realized that Cass was going to go batshit on Varric.
Batshit is putting it lightly lmao 😂
Dorian: Varric, are you and Cassandra...?
Oh my Andraste...I laughed a little when Varric ducked under Cassandra's punch.
On a serious note though, both sides have good points.
Nah. Not really, especially at Cassandra's point. She didn't convey well her real intention of why she interrogated Varric. Judging by her antagonistic approach back at DAII, it's natural for Varric to assume for the worst that they would going to arrest Hawke. Regardless of Hawke's stance in the Kirkwall crisis, they're on hot water with the Chantry. It didn't help that Cassandra's approach to the war is quite short-sighted. I'm sorry, but I'm going to side with Varric in this one. Cassandra can't bully her way to get what she wants no matter how well-intentioned she is.
Rewatching this scene now after playing Veilguard is like a slap in the face.
Conflicts between companions always made things interesting, especially when they were both in the right in their own ways. In Veilguard there's no conflict, and most of the companions are boring af.
I kinda find it incredibly laughable that Cassandra not only wanted Hawke to be at the conclave but also the inquisitor. Since Hawke is a fully customizable character it, of course, depends on the character, but mine was a fierce mage freedom supporter, though he was less vocal about it unless he got pushed. During the conclave, he would've lost his shit and as the inquisitor, he would've made so many people angry XD
Anyone else like it when the inquisitor's angry.
Me
So is this, what writers of this game came up with...to explain why Hawke is not the inquisitor? Lol guessing they knew we could never be mad at Varric :P
varric's such a bro
These two were what I was looking forward to the most. When I got to this scene, I was laughing because I finished DA2 just two months ago and the memories were still fresh.
Hrm. A thought occurs: If Cassandra and Leliana had found the HoF before the Conclave, they stood a very good chance of being suborned by Corypheus and the Nightmare.
this is 5 years late but no they wouldn't have. The Warden Contact (i.e. Alistair, Stroud, Loghain) resist the false calling.
@@labradude yeah, but Wardens that get close to Corypheus get severely weakened and controlled by Corypheus directly. Not just the false calling. Just look at Anders in Legacy. Defintely the least suited to fight Corypheus is HoF
Possibly not if the warden allowed avernus continue his experimentation or/and drank his potion which gave him control or at least some control over taint. Avernus was able to postpone his calling and prolong his life for about 200 years. So possibly such warden would have control over own taint to degree that would render Corypheus unable to control them but that's just my speculation.
@@labradude That depends on every Warden but we can't know that. It's better safe that our Warden would be out from the crossfire.
Poor Inquisitor for being substitute by Hero and Champion
Indeed. And Leliana does the same way as well post-Here Lies the Abyss about why they are alive and Justinia wasn't. It rubs me the wrong way because it tells me that she would rather have the Inquisitor dead to save Justinia. Really, the Inquisitor is nothing but a figurehead because the legitimate leaders of that organization are cowards who can't make big choices and stick to the consequences.
Varric and Hawke have a chemistry together that's really good and i'd say even Merrill fits inbetween with both varric and hawke himself, they're all sarcastic and snarky and friendly and witty and cute
Perhaps if Varric had chosen differently Hawke would now be Inquisitor.
How little decisions change the fate of the world.
Like Varric said, I think Hawke would have died too.
The Inquisitor only got the anchor by pure chance. Hawke might have died in the explosion.
@@juanlaise1059 Possibly. But Hawke does have the devil's luck.
@@yoursonisold8743
His luck tends to get him in trouble though. Unless Hawke is the one that walks in when Corypheus is doing his ritual, he dies. And we have no reason to believe that Hawke's presence would have changed that.
@@juanlaise1059 I mean... becoming the Inquisitor and having to wage a war against Corypheus sounds like a lot of trouble to me lol
@@yoursonisold8743 You don't know how Hawke's luck work. Did you play DAII and watch how Hawke is beaten up throughout the story?
2:13 Damn, that hay maker would've sent Varric all the way to the Anderfels hahaha.
Varric fighting Corypheus for the first time: IF HE PULLS A DRAGON OUT OF HIS ASS I’M OUTTA HERE
And then Corypheus comes back after pulling a fake Archdemon out of his ass. Thanks for giving the bad guy ideas, Varric
Josephine always carrying a candle around gives me anxiety.
Varric is like Tyrion with combat skills and has his own Varys-esque network, only his better nature tends to be more on display, but still. 2011 gave us two great dwarves!
Jon Ericson 1996 for Tyrion.
Don't be sad, Varric, we all love you. :3
"You conniving little shit" - I love Cassandra "talking" to Varric, amazing dialogues!
Varric is such a good friend, he had Hawke's back.
Here's a thought...
What if the next Dragon Age game introduces a new character who acts as lead and the only party possible will have,
The New Character (possibly a rogue elven god, or an ancient elvenmage)
Hero of Ferelden
Hawke
The Inquisitor (maybe with his hand somehow)
Haha, That is my idea as well, and my fist line said will be: "Who the hell are you people!"
Oh how I wish you were right
I really wish they ended up in a romance 😊😊😊 it wouldn’t been that rivalmance that we all need
to be fair, I cant blame varric at all for keeping things from the inquisition, quite specifically cassandra. something about beatings and death threats tend to generate trust issues.
I think if Hawke had been at the Conclave, he would've walked in on Cory murdering the Divine. I'm just curious if Hawke would've picked up the orb, or would he be smart enough to just keep it away from everyone in the fight? Who knows, Hawke may have just died because he wouldn't be wandering around like Inky
Depends on the Hawke. My latest one would have taken Cory's head off with a arrow before anything else.
Jon Ericson Hawke is depressed in every way, look his path, only disgrace
Knowing what he/she knows about Magic, he'd/she'd probably have had a PTSD moment and stood there blankly. To be truthful the Inquisitor had the option of not know what the fuck was going on and just reacted on instinct.
Thanks for sharing these videos! I have to wait for my copy, but it's nice to sample vicariously through your efforts.
kind of funny that they'd think Hawke would have made a difference considering that their decisions and actions had no effect on what happened whatsoever at any point in their story
the way Varric ran however is something else
Did Cassandra even know what Hawke looked like?
hmm.. what will happen if Hawke is the viscount
Hawke was only viscount for like a year or so before he bailed and it was uneventful. I don't think there are many mentions of that in Inquisition at all.
***** bailed cause red templars wanted hawke dead
aoibhealfae He stayed Viscount for about a month before he found out the Templars were ingesting red lyrium, which made them all suspicious of Hawke, like Knight-Commander Meredith. Eventually, he got sick of it, and he and his friends went their separate ways.
@@Kunnaki it kinda sucks that if you went through all of that Hawke just bails on your hard work
"you're not what i'd pictured"
"well, screw you too." -_-
Varric will always be my bro
3:57 You people have done enough to him
The idea of Cassandra expecting the HoF - who is potentially the queen/prince-consort of a whole ass country in addition to being warden-commander - to be willing to drop everything to become the leader of her militant religious cult is hilarious.
When will we be able to romance Varric? I really hoped it for the inqusition :(
never he will never leave beancia
Bianca is his one true love, always will be, he loves her more than his story telling
@@hyliayggdrasil2725 it sucks cause she keeps using him
To be honest, if my Hawkes and Cassandra meet, I don't think it will end well for the latter. Also, I don't really think Cassandra understood Hawke's actions at all despite Varric telling her the account of what truly happened. I don't think a Hawke who sided with the mages and supported Anders' bombing of the Chantry in response to Meredith illegally invoking the Annulment would ever accept becoming the Inquisitor. And if Cassandra will do her usual schtick, then she better prepare to get sucked on a fireball or get stabbed in the back, as in case to my Hawkes.
lol when she says he's a snake. XD
Have you tried out the option 'stay out of it' when they're fighting or already made a video of it? It's hilarious xDD
Varric disapproves ofc but I couldn't stop laughing for a minute at what Cass was doing.
Do you get this cutscene without a save import?
Varric was right, had Hawke been the Inqusitor, he/she would have died in the conclave and the Inquisition would have ended before it even began.
Also it's funny how Cassandra, I won't say hate but tolerate Varric, yet she is a fan of his book. 😂
Is it me, or when Cassandra says "I know less than nothing." Like she's joking but she's not 😞
Varric master of sass walk
Hopefully they bring back the Hero of Ferelden for DA4. Whether it's to play as them again or if they're a big plot armor I'd love that too
What does Cassandra ever thinking that her actions back at DAII will make Varric spill Hawke's whereabouts, especially when said person is directly challenging the Chantry authority? Sorry, Cass, but I'll side with Varric on that one even if I have higher approval from you.
Cassie telegraph that right swing..I saw it coming.
Does this scene happen before Hawke can die in the fade? Because ouch.
you can show us what happend if u choose cassandra's side?
They need to leave hawke alone what if he didn’t want to be leader he had that option
ArashiGalaxy Thanks for sharing! I didn't know that
I really don't see why was Hawke "desperately needed" for all of Thedas. What did he do? WHat made him the obvious pick for the Inquisitor? He didn't even start the Mage Rebellion, he was just a small part of it. Anders started it, regardless of Hawke's choices. And Hawke was a champion of a city, but I'm sure other cities had champions of their own. And there are like a bunch of cities beside Kirkwall. And it is not even about Corypheus, as Cassandra says Hawke was needed even before the Breach happened. What made him so relevant before the events of Inquisition?
+Bindair Dundat He was basically the hero of the second story in the
series. She sincerely believed that he would have been a better, battle
hardened leader to have at the head of the Inquisition...a better
"chosen one"; so to speak due to already going through the whole "OH GOD
THE WORLD IS GONNA END GOTTA SAVE IT!" whole thing previously. And
plus...at least in my game...I'm a Qunari that was palling around as a
naer-do-well with Varric before the whole place blew up..so it figures
Miss Seeker wouldn't exactly think I was fit for the job.
Tecnically, Hawke is the Plan B when the Hero of Ferelden (if (s)he is alive) is not found. And I've always wondered why Cassandra and the Divine believed that Hero of Ferelden would agree to be an Inquisitor.
@@varric
They needed a leader and the Hero of Ferelden was succesful in ending a Blight with limited resources and only in one year.
Hawke was the second option because he could act on behalf of one of the two groups to make peace.
@@juanlaise1059 Dude, read better before posting something. I said: "why Cassandra and the Divine believed that Hero of Ferelden WOULD AGREE to be an Inquisitor."
@@varric
Why wouldn't he?
It's not like there was another Blight and he was particularly busy. Besides, he already had connections which would have made the job easier(until Corypheus took over him, that is).
The only reason I don't sacrifice Hawke is because of varric
I keep forgetting that Hawke can be either male or female. Warden male, Hawke female, Inquisitor male. Yup.
Varric is so funny
what did you expect he's a liar and liars tell stories XD
Varric was way too likable for you hate him in dragon age 2
so Bioware's original plan was to make Hawk the Inquisitor I guess they change their minds last minute
Hawke is the Plan B XDXDXD.
LOL THIS WAS TOO FUNNY!
Where are the morrigan cameos? if you haven't yet done them, can you ask her if the warden is her husband? i saw it as a dialogue option in another video but the user clicked the option congratulating morrigan on having someone special.
I prefer female hawke..
i hate varric and this makes me happy to watch :D
M3gaCowlick How come?
not sure :( i just dont like his character haha he seems like a compulsive liar to me hahah but a smart guy nonetheless
Yeah, but he openly admits that he lies a lot. It's one of the things he does best.
Sometimes Cassandra is so annoying
is there an alternative scene if the Warden was dead?
The Warden can't be dead, it's either Stroud, Alistair or Loghain.
Oops. I meant is there any difference if the hero of ferelden warden is dead
NSoranik
Ahh I thought you were asking about Hawke's Warden friend. This scene is not related to HoF so why would there be any difference?
Just curious about the part that when Cassandra mentions searching for the HoF and what happens if theyre dead
NSoranik
Ok, so I checked and she says this if HoF is dead: imgur.com/TDYsVz8
i dont understand why hawke are imoprotant as the hero of felrendan
ben reeves Well, both of them are important, really. One saves Ferelden (and the rest of Thedas) from the Darkspawn by killing the Archdemon. The other basically has a 'rags to riches' story in that they save their city from the Qunari, and were a key figure in the Mage/Templar War. Plus, I think Hawke touched a lot more people's lives than the Warden.
Yami Long one save a small town and barely only few thousand people live in it (even if templar and mage started war in kirtwall doesn do much damage between orlais and ferelden just an one city get corrupted)one save the whole kingdom and possibly saved all the world how could a small hawke comapre to big hero of ferelden
But there are mages and Templars all over Thedas, even in Orlais. When the Circle in Kirkwall rebelled, the rest of the Circles followed suit. At the center of it all was the Champion, a.k.a. Hawke.
The Warden was only doing what Wardens are supposed to: stopping the Blight. Hawke did what he/she felt was right. And even though Kirkwall is small, you can't deny that a lot of the events that happened there rocked the rest of Thedas.
Yami Long if circle was that strong to started a rebelion war why would their life controlled by templar they should started it long ago but in the end they are all controlled by Corypheus
Tecnically, Hawke don't start anything. Is Anders and his stupid bomb, the Meredith's disproportionate response (bring the Right of Annulment to an entire Circle for the crimes of an apostate) and the Lord Seeker Lamberts's actions in Asunder is the true reasson for the very start of the Mage/Templar War.
wow just realised the voice acting for cassandra is very stiff and inconsistent
wait a Minute,wasnt the only way to survive killing the archfiend to make that twisted pact with morrigan? how could the hero of fereldon live and be a woman?or are they assuming that you made alistair/loghain take the kill?
I'm pretty sure that if you don't import a DA:O save the canon is that the HoF dies. For a female HoF you have Alistair sleep with Morrigan to make her pregnant and have the Old God baby
If the warden is female, you can force Alistair or Loghain to make baby with Morrigan