It's right by the Uni apparently and I can see why the students would find it very disturbing but why can't the screen it off like a construction site? 🤔
If I was from IDAHO I would be protesting to keep the house till trial is over. if the right person or persons are not captured all the citizens and their kids are in danger.
It’s so dumb to demolish a house because a horrendous crime occurred behind the walls. If this was the case a ton of homes would be demolished. The whole concept is stupid
They have a complete digital model of the house exactly the way it was when the detectives first walked in, so the jurers can do a virtual walk through if they feel the need to.
I'm really surprised that they're deciding to demolish the house before the trial is over. I think they should wait, just in case they need it for the trial.
It can’t remain as is anymore, they’ve already removed a lot of the victim’s belongings and a crime scene cleaner has already cleaned up the aftermath of the crime. It’s just an empty house now. If it were up to me I would’ve wanted literally everything untouched, including the blood, then have the jury walk through in hazmat suits. That would’ve been really, really, really powerful.
@@carolinegallegos_ u r right, and everything in the house is an important piece of evidence, the house should not be pulled down until after the trial!
IF - I were on the jury, I would most definitely, want to physically walk through the house. To see with MY OWN EYES, and also to gain the understanding of how the attorneys lay out the story.
he has been officially charged, thats why he's in prison. lol. But i do agree. Once he is convicted they can tear the home down. But until that verdict they should definitely not destroy it.
They should not tear that house down until AFTER the TRIAL is OVER!!! They are just wanting to get rid of the house because it puts a bad image of the campus of University. The University should care about the families and help convict the killer by letting the jury see the crime scene.
Exactly. The previous owner should not have donated the house to the University. The University has the University’s best interest in mind, not the grieving families.
I completely agree! I’m sure the university is very eager to distance itself from the murders. Walking the jury members through that house would be powerful. I think it needs to stay in place until after the trial.
And Bethany never even ventured upstairs from her 1st floor room in the morning. Can't really blame her, who would ever want to take a look at deceased friends?
What a horrific tragedy! The loved ones of Ethan, Xana, Madison and Kaylee must be going through the most unimaginable and excruciatingly painful hell. I also feel bad for the Kohberger family. Legally speaking, I can not understand how destroying the crime scene before the trial could even be an option. These precious souls and their loved ones deserve justice. Anything that could possibly compromise the case should not even be considered. Of course people seeing the house is traumatic. However, these victims must come first.
@donnamonyanarella2403 you couldn't have put it any better I think!! I ABSOLUTELY agree with you!! The house should be demolished, AFTER the trial or at least after the jury is selected and has made the decision wether to enter the crime scene or not. As much as it may hurt the community to have such a reminder, I think it is very important if I was a member of the jury, I'd wanna see the crime scene! No matter what stands in that spot, the house, a memorial, the hurt, loss, and devastation will always be there. So, again, yes the house should be demolished, but AFTER the trial!!!!!!
I agree. It’s unfathamable that they are demolishing it. It’s bullshit and frankly I have had some kind of feeling for a coverup or were in for some major surprise. Demolishing before trial is bull. It’s like cremating a murder victim. Ya know? They could miss something. This is all for money
I believe they have used special video cameras which record everything in a crime scene & the house as a whole, to scale, in 3D format, thus it can viewed easily from every angle, as often as they need.
Can you say mistrial or appeal. This is so ridiculous. All of these families deserve justice and the prosecution is gonna take it away from them. They are tearing down the crime scene and making everything easier for the defense. Also, I think that destroying the house could make everything that was in it inadmissible. No DNA, no case. This is so bad.
Yeah, because people just don't end up like this for no apparent reason. Why would he put in all of that hard work academically just to throw it and his life away with such a stupid decision? I get that there are things in life that just may not have answers to, but damn, it's just so nonsensical for someone that smart to do what he did. Or maybe it's just as it seems; his criminology studies made him develop some kind of morbid curiosity and obsession of wondering what it's like to kill someone.
They definitely need to wait until the trial is over. It’s possible that the jury will need to observe the layout of the house and victims position’s. I just want to be sure that the monster who committed these crimes gets what “it” deserves.
So so sad. I cannot imagine how you go about cleaning and emptying a house like this where such a horrific crime happened. I'm sure everyone living in the area wants the house gone. That happens a lot like in the case of the house of Ariel Castro where he held Amanda Berry, Gina Dejesus and Michelle Knight. I can also see wanting to keep it to give the jury a chance to walk through the house to understand the scene. One of the jurors of the Alex Murdaugh trial said it was really a turning point for him because he saw how high the threshold was for the door of the feed room. It told him the second weird shot to Paul Murdaugh could have come from Alex tripping backwards over the threshold. That in itself may have been crucial to the case.
Of course but really it should be after the trial ,a 3D video for the jury is not the same as standing in the building, I agree with the families who don't want it done till after trial,but I'm also very aware some the families want it gone , and the students too , so yeah I do get that but personally I feel another 4 months when his trial starts wouldn't be to much longer
The Manson murder home of Sharon state was not tore down and much worse happened in that home. It wasn’t removed for more than 20 years and 4 other owners. It’s highly unusual to tear down a home after a murder or murders happened in.
As much as I understand the parents not wanting the memories of this house, I think they should wait until the trial is over just in case the jury might want to look at it, leave no stone unturned.
So true. I hope the jury will take emotion out of this case and rule only on the evidence. They better get it right. Everyone’s life is important, including the worst of us. At least that’s my hope
Demolish the house after the trial, NOT before. It is of course a crime scene (four people were killed in it). Let the jury see the crime scene if possible. I mean, duh.
It is about time we give these criminals to God to deal with. Some of these crimes are horrible. Death penalty needs to be brought back and carried out in a faster time than thirty years later!
@@brittcruz897 Depending on the State it can take 20 to 30 years to carry out the death penalty. In other words they sit on death row far too long before they are ever put to death. Often they die of natural causes before they go to the death chamber. Some could argue that sitting on death row for decades is more painful.
You're so right. No one wants to hear about who's coming to visit him, who he's dating, or fan mail from psychos, when he brutally planned out the horrible murder and took four precious angels from this earth who had so much potential and beautiful lives ahead of them. I kind of feel that there are so many that would be happy to give the families justice by giving him a fate where he leaves this planet. God bless those beautiful kids and their families :(.
Put an automatic stay on the property, I'm sure the courts attorney will petition for that. With automatic stay, they can't demolish the home until the stay is lifted.
This home should not be torn down until after the trial is over. I’ve seen homes be gone into 20 years later, abandoned trailers, floor boards lifted, paint removed to solve cold cases after a tip off or a renewal of a detective searching for answers from families. This also will absolutely help the defense as they already tried to tear it down before they even had an arrest and the atty in PA had to have the demolish stopped before Bryan was extradited. Them having no access to this home, the jury, should also be the #1 reason the home stands. The families don’t want the home tore down til after the trial either.
The building that the Parkland School shootings happened in was kept as is for years so that the jury could eventually view it. Boarded up and gated off from the rest of the high school for 5 years until trial. Last I heard the building is still up and the trial is over. I don’t see the rush to demolish the house if it could potentially harm the case.
That building was owned by the school district and they had other buildings to have classes. If a house is owned by private people, they may not want their property held for years until a trial is over. The state should get all the evidence and will have a 3D video. I was a juror on a murder trial, the crime scene was a hotel, and we had pictures. We were able to get the idea of the crime scene. Personally, I wouldn't want to go to a crime scene.
@@Kay-fv7cw Well the University owns the house now so they could wait if they wanted to. It seems the rush to get rid of the house is more about protecting their image rather than getting justice. No one ever wants to visit a crime scene but sometimes it’s necessary. This isn’t a typical house. The layout is weird, odd neighborhood roads, the apartment building right there. Yeah 3D is useful but it’s not the same as physically being there. They randomly did a jury trip during the Murdaugh trial and a juror said going there helped him. If it’s torn down the opportunity, whether used or not, is gone forever and that’s the issue.
@Holllyy_H The evidence is not gone. Even with the TH-cam videos, we can see the outline of the house, and the state will have much better video than TH-cam. That juror in AM trial also said the trip didn't change his decision, it was a speculation that AM may have tripped, but didn't change his belief that AM killed his wife and son.
The house must not be demolished at this time. Let the case end then ok to move on with demolishing . What is the rush? It’s a crime place and a reminder to others to be cautious of their surroundings and be alert of their homes roommates…
@@JohanaI22 the building where the parkland school shooting happened stayed up for years so the jury could view it. Boarded up and gated off from the rest of the high school.
That would be too perfect and the court system can’t have that. Gotta be boring and never let victims have justice because we live in a stupid “civilized” society and must be denied real justice to prove we are “civilized”.
The house absolutely should not be demolished until after the court case is finished and there’s been a conviction, or not. The jury absolutely must be able to see it if the want because they layout of the house has caused a lot of confusion.
Watching them bring their stuff from that house is devastating. Justnimaging them packing their suitcases to go back to school. So excited and full of hope and life. It will never make sense to me why and how that man could have done this. I know bad things happen everyday but it just feels so senseless. I have a daughter away at school, in a house with her friends where they live their young lives. Heartbreaking. I'm so sorry for their families. It haunts me thinking about what Mr. Gonzales said about sending your kid off to school. You never expect to get them back like this. All those dreams you have for your children even before they were born and it gets taken away for no reason.
The individual who murdered them is not "a man", it is a psychopathic monster, a creature with a brain different from yours and mine. Literally different, psychopathic brains show differences on PET scans, their empathy areas are inactive. This is a creature, a thing.
Please, please, please talk to your daughter, get to know her roommates and whom they bring around. Make sure your instill in her that having an open house party atmosphere can and does bring with it many tragedies and traumas to both young women and young men. Make sure she remains vigilant in her surroundings. It’s a scary thing to have to convey but we have found ourselves having to do the same.
Loving you're having Brian Entin on this - he has so much....care, concern, empathy, and always his diligence towards his cases. Love hearing his coverage!
Demolishing the house before the trial is like destroying evidence. Keep it up so prosecution or defense can do a jury walk through. What’s the rush? Money. The University wants it gone and forgotten so their admission numbers aren’t affected. This is such a tragic event, the jury needs to see all the evidence so the right person is sentenced.
First of all, I would have been very upset to have others pack up my child’s belongings. Understand that they looked through their personal items for clues, but to continue packing up their possessions and claim them at another site…doesn’t sit right with me. I admit that I could have misunderstood the purposed procedure. Secondly, the house should remain until after the trial. Again, something is not right with this either.
The jurors on the Murdaugh murders case said it was a great help to be able to see exactly where Maggie and Paul were killed, surely this jury should have the same option
This is a Perfect example of Why you Do Not remove the Evidence... Do Not give the criminal an upper hand to easily get away with This Awful, Unbelievable Tragedy. -C
I know a lot of folks hate the death penalty. but i honestly think its wonderful. While we have some people in prison who can certainly be redeemed. We also have ones who shouldnt get to live another minute. This was four innocent young souls, minding their own business, going home to go to bed. so brutal that the own cops on scene said they were horrified.. Some people do not deserve redemption. Send him straight to hell where he belongs.
A few things… 1) he’s innocent until proven guilty 2) innocent men have been put to death and later their innocence was proven 3) the death penalty cost tax payers far more than it does to house an inmate, as they are still imprisoned for decades before being put to death 4) in many ways the death penalty is the easy way out 5) a firing squad is not something that should exist anywhere in a nation that believes themselves to be “civilized”.
If they feel the house won't require a walk through, it makes me feel as if the evidence they have found and not made public, is so incriminating that they feel it may not be necessary.
Bottom line the house needs to stand so the jury can absolutely walk through and hear the acoustics from Dylan’s room, Bethany’s room, Xana’s room, & where the girls were sleeping. The fact the house has a very odd floor plan, & the prosecutors claiming he was watching them from the back through woods. The jury needs to see and hear all they can to make a final decision. It’s imperative the Jury, Prosecutors, & Defense team should be entitled to have access to until the trial is over. The reality is most of the students that were at the college won’t be returning as they go for a couple years and move on & either graduate and continue their education at other college campuses so there’s no reason to worry about the actual students at the campus.
I would not need to see this house as a Juror. The evidence is enough. I also don't think a perfectly good house worth thousands of dollars should be torn down because people died in it. People die all the time in all sorts of places. We don't tear down the buildings, destroy the cars, and demolish their workplaces, do we? It has nothing to do with respect, just a waste of resources. Clean up the house and fill it with people again. Put a memorial garden some distance from it, and put a fence around the property so people can live there in peace. Too much drama about this house.
I think they should wait until he is convicted. The Murdaugh case is the best example of that. PLUS, the layout of this house is so weird. I cannot believe they would even consider destroying the crime scene before the trial could even be an option. I think it is irresponsible in that it says they just want to demolish the scene of the crime so they can go back to normal. I am sorry if that is not the owners feeling, but it sure is looking that way. Instead, why don't you leave it alone & plan a memorial for the area, until AFTER the conviction
Actually The public defender halted the cleaning of the crime scene not the removal of the mattresses and furniture. The furniture was taken to somewhere FOR the defense to comb over.
As for demolition and removing the ability for the jurors to visit the property: There are services available, used by realtors that allow 360° viewing walk through of houses. This should be done before anything is removed.
@@JohanaI22 they did it for murdaugh, and this is death penalty case with an eye witness. If there is a conviction, one would want to close all loopholes for appeal.
@@JohanaI22 these reporters are starting to anger me. They are pathetic and this firing squad thing? Wtf are they talking about? He would need to be convicted and get death and then choose firing squad. This is absolutely ridiculous.
I am not saying that he needs to be punished for his crimes however a firing squad seems barbaric. It’s like something that they do in a third world country. Also do people get to witness this act? I couldn’t watch that. Just saying.
Please cover the missing sailor story who’s body is still missing in Waukegan IL. 21 yr old who was serving our country. Heartbreaking and needs more publicity.
Please preserve the house until after the trial, just in case it’s needed during the trial. We can’t bring the victims back. Neither will it be possible to revisit the crime scene if it’s later discovered that new information deems it necessary for jurors to visit the house. Is the university privy to information that the public isn’t? In either case the university could erect a fence/wall or put up a pesticide tent around the entire house/property to obscure the view of the house from prying eyes. My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones 💔🙏
Thanks Ashley. The 15 second video is very confronting. I had a regular coffee meeting with my siblings this morning and I needed to hold them a second longer, just to feel gratitude. I don’t know how the families would ever begin to recover from this, if in fact they do.
I worry it’s a huge mistake to tear down the house. The scene needs to be preserved for the jury because that house was so huge and multi leveled, yet he supposedly killed them in a short period of time. It will be hard for the jury to visualize
The students need to be mature, and want Justice for these Fellow peers. They can work through it. The school can provide qualified counselors or group chats so that a student or relative doesn't have to feel alone while they are grieving. The students will be Leaving for the Summer, and The Truth is the Most Important. They are all going to be in the ''real world" soon, and they can't be protected from everything. There is a Reason for keeping the house Intact until a Conviction is reached. -C
Well here's my thought about the firing squad I'm all for we don't deserve to show him any Mercy particularly so what kind of Mercy did he show the victims
I'm watching from a different country and I feel a sadness that they would want to demolish the house before the case has gone to trial. There is nothing more haunting than a jury visiting a crime scene. It is essential that they keep the house until the need for the jury visitation is either denied or agreed to. If there is any doubt in the the minds of the jury members, the visit could secure their decision. I cannot imagine the loss of these kids. What happened to the doggie? My heart is broken for these kids, so young and so unnecessary. A memorial at the address would be a good idea.
Blood was leaking out of the house. It must have been a bloody mess in there and the stains are still there. How can they even go in there to collect their loved one's goods?
@@justanotherguy469 Yeah I totally agree. The crime scene is definitely how it was that night minus the body and physical evidence but yeah all the blood is still there. That's a nightmare. But there is a chance that if they cleared the scene the families/owner could have had crime scene cleaners in there and clean it by now but who knows. So sad 😞
Most juries don’t actually go to the crime scene and they really don’t need to. They don’t need to be inside the house to determine his guilt or innocence. But I don’t think they should be destroying the crime scene before trial just from an evidentiary standpoint. I don’t like opening the door to the defence coming up with some theory down the road and then saying they’re at a disadvantage because there’s evidence that’s been destroyed.
But in these high profile cases they do walk through the crime scene. Even in that Alex M case they did. Even though they had the scan of the crime scene. There are some things even the scan can't show you. For example it can show the outsides of the house but you can't get a clear comprehension of exactly where the nieghbors camera is in regards to the outside walls of the house. Or like in the AM case one juror said the walk through was the turning point for him because he could actually see exactly how much of a lip was on the feed room threshold. The 3D scans are awesome but even they don't depict everything and some of these tiny details can be huge.
Also the jurors need to be able to see what can be heard from one room to another like in DM's room, what could she hear? Is it really old and creaky and everything can be heard like a previous tenant described or muffled and hard to hear like DM says. Not to mention the lay out of the house. I gotta say even with all the videos of the inside of the house, it's hard to get a clear understanding of it. A walk through could really clear all this up. This is one case that if I were a juror would want a walk through. Just because of the layout itself and wanting to get a better idea of what can/can't be heard from the survivors rooms. Even Xanas room
@@Codered810 A case being high profile has no bearing on whether a crime scene walk through is warranted. Your connection doesn’t make sense to me. And no, they typically don’t go to crime scenes, even in high profile cases. Did Nikolas Cruz’s jury go to the school? Couldn’t you argue the same thing saying that actually being inside the school and seeing the hallway and seeing the classrooms would give you a better visualization of everything that happened? What do you think could actually be gleaned in the Idaho case that couldn’t be accomplished through testimony? Why would they need to go to the house to learn how far away the neighbour’s camera is when it can be testified to in court?
@@Codered810 Well yeah it would be nice. I’d love to have them go through it with some good video recording equipment just to satisfy my own curiosity. But is it necessary for the jurors? No, otherwise all juries would do it. And talking about whether sound travels in the house would actually require the jurors to violate the rules. They have to go by testimony, not do experiments. They can’t put someone in Xana’s room and someone in Dylan’s room and pretend to whimper to test out whether she could’ve heard that the night of the murders. That’s an automatic mistrial. They have to go by testimony, not by their personal experience of the evidence. They have to decide whether they believe Dylan based on what they hear in court, not what they hear at the crime scene.
@@trickortrump3292 they have the 3D scan. Where jurors can put on glasses and it's literally like they are there. If the scanners did a thorough enough scan it will be better than nothing but I still don't think it's enough. And trust that they scanned everything the jurors want to see. It scans everything above and around the scanner but nothing below it. Could miss something crucial.
That house needs to stay up until the trail is over. Its STILL a crime scene just like all the boxes of evidence they took out! Im kinda puzzled why its even a question in terms of justice for these 4 young adults that tragically lost there lives!!
It was horrible what happened to those college kids. May they get the justice they deserve. Miss Banfield, please do a story on Shanquella Robinson. I believe this story is getting swept under.
WTF?!? DO NOT DEMOLISH THAT HOUSE!!! What are you thinking?! Wait until someone is behind bars and has exhausted their appeals. This isn’t even a case of the owner needing something out of that house. It has literally been gifted to the uni. WTAF?
Are you kidding! Do you think the butchering of these four innocent college students was humane???? Remember at least one had defensive wounds. What about humane treatment for her???
The University shouldn't have any control over an off campus house. The owners who donated the house to the University should be looked into. I hope the Defense files a motion to preserve the house until trial is over. I also hope the Defense goes back to the 2 original officers on scene, Smith & Nunes bodycams.....see if that sheath made an appearance on those bodycams. I'll bet it didn't. 👀
I hope that the parents of the victims were given the opportunity, if they desired, to visit the house where their child died. A step in grieving and closure. I know if it had been my child, I would need it despite how difficult it would be .
This lady is so annoying, why does she want an answer so bad? So she can keep twisting things around? Why would you give time to the public to give their opinion, when the trial hasn’t even started. The media really does mess up everything.
This is just heartbreaking for the family. Every step of this isn't easy and now they have to think about this. I believe that, if there are family members that would like the house to stand until after the trial, I think that is fair. It was a crime scene, so I would imagine that it does matter.
If it has been “released to the “university “ it’s deemed no longer a crime scene- I completely disagree- especially about jurors being able to go there and hear what Dylan was hearing ( or apparently not hearing) she needs to go under lie detector at minimum but
I don’t live in Idaho but I’d be glad to come out there and pull one of those triggers. I’m pretty sure there’d be quite a line out there for open tryouts for that one, should it come to that.
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There is *absolutely no reason* to demolish the house while the investigation and trial is happening. They can do it afterwards.
It's right by the Uni apparently and I can see why the students would find it very disturbing but why can't the screen it off like a construction site? 🤔
If I was from IDAHO I would be protesting to keep the house till trial is over. if the right person or persons are not captured all the citizens and their kids are in danger.
It’s so dumb to demolish a house because a horrendous crime occurred behind the walls. If this was the case a ton of homes would be demolished. The whole concept is stupid
Completely agree!
Eliminating a jury walk-through is devastating to justice for the victims!! Any plans for demolition should be stopped.
Thus could tsje years and years. They have 3 degree diagrams
I truly believe that house , needs to stay up , until the trial is over , just in case the jury wants a walk through
I totally agree with you.
They have a complete digital model of the house exactly the way it was when the detectives first walked in, so the jurers can do a virtual walk through if they feel the need to.
@Krystal Daniels it's still not the same as being there, especially for people who aren't visual.
It's really not up to the jury. The judge makes the call.
Yep I agree
I'm really surprised that they're deciding to demolish the house before the trial is over. I think they should wait, just in case they need it for the trial.
surely the lawyers on both sides would put a stop to it if need be ?
@@nikkimclay5474I would think they both sides have filed a motion with the court and the court released it back to the owner.
@@nikkimclay5474 facts
you pay the mortgage then, no worries..............with appeals it will be years and years, think about it
@@yourkiwimate Are you implying that there is a mortgage against the property now and if demolished that mortgage would go away?
Whether the house is standing or an empty lot, nobody will ever forget what happened there. That house should remain as is until the trial is over!
Exactly!
It can’t remain as is anymore, they’ve already removed a lot of the victim’s belongings and a crime scene cleaner has already cleaned up the aftermath of the crime. It’s just an empty house now. If it were up to me I would’ve wanted literally everything untouched, including the blood, then have the jury walk through in hazmat suits. That would’ve been really, really, really powerful.
I agree. something unpredicted could come up that causes the jury to need to physically see the house
@@carolinegallegos_ u r right, and everything in the house is an important piece of evidence, the house should not be pulled down until after the trial!
IF - I were on the jury, I would most definitely, want to physically walk through the house. To see with MY OWN EYES, and also to gain the understanding of how the attorneys lay out the story.
They won't need a jury walk-through to get a conviction.
Same.
@@TheVAULTofHORROR Understood. But, not the point, ya know? Capital punishment is a BIG DEAL.
Also how sound carries within the house, what DM could have seen from her angle, etc
@@jandccarlisle3534 YES! Exactly!
Don't destroy the crime seen until Brian gets officially charged
he has been officially charged, thats why he's in prison. lol. But i do agree.
Once he is convicted they can tear the home down. But until that verdict
they should definitely not destroy it.
@@dani.dee4213he is not in prison yet he is in the local jail.
@@dani.dee4213if he is convicted he goes to prison
Innocent until proven guilty!!!!!!!!
They got airtight evidence. No need for the house
They should not tear that house down until AFTER the TRIAL is OVER!!! They are just wanting to get rid of the house because it puts a bad image of the campus of University. The University should care about the families and help convict the killer by letting the jury see the crime scene.
Exactly. The previous owner should not have donated the house to the University.
The University has the University’s best interest in mind, not the grieving families.
I completely agree! I’m sure the university is very eager to distance itself from the murders. Walking the jury members through that house would be powerful. I think it needs to stay in place until after the trial.
It could be a bad image of the investigation. I think they are hiding something. I hope they keep that house up.
@@KimberlyGarcia-fk5fu It should be a no brainer to leave the house up until after the trail.
Jurors need to stand inside Dylan's room and listen to the house with the doors closed.
And DM ‘s room was below Maddie’s room. So there’s that. I’m guessing that she heard a lot that night but still waited 8 hours to call the police.
And Bethany never even ventured upstairs from her 1st floor room in the morning. Can't really blame her, who would ever want to take a look at deceased friends?
@@aisle_of_view if that’s the case Why is someone on online claiming that she’s in a psych ward
Yep with furniture in the home
Oh here we go . Blaming the victim .
What a horrific tragedy! The loved ones of Ethan, Xana, Madison and Kaylee must be going through the most unimaginable and excruciatingly painful hell. I also feel bad for the Kohberger family. Legally speaking, I can not understand how destroying the crime scene before the trial could even be an option. These precious souls and their loved ones deserve justice. Anything that could possibly compromise the case should not even be considered. Of course people seeing the house is traumatic. However, these victims must come first.
Absolutely agree 💯
@donnamonyanarella2403 you couldn't have put it any better I think!! I ABSOLUTELY agree with you!! The house should be demolished, AFTER the trial or at least after the jury is selected and has made the decision wether to enter the crime scene or not. As much as it may hurt the community to have such a reminder, I think it is very important if I was a member of the jury, I'd wanna see the crime scene! No matter what stands in that spot, the house, a memorial, the hurt, loss, and devastation will always be there. So, again, yes the house should be demolished, but AFTER the trial!!!!!!
I agree. It’s unfathamable that they are demolishing it. It’s bullshit and frankly I have had some kind of feeling for a coverup or were in for some major surprise. Demolishing before trial is bull. It’s like cremating a murder victim. Ya know? They could miss something. This is all for money
I believe they have used special video cameras which record everything in a crime scene & the house as a whole, to scale, in 3D format, thus it can viewed easily from every angle, as often as they need.
@@fragolina8391 but you can’t hear that what dm and bf heard that night
Can you say mistrial or appeal. This is so ridiculous. All of these families deserve justice and the prosecution is gonna take it away from them. They are tearing down the crime scene and making everything easier for the defense. Also, I think that destroying the house could make everything that was in it inadmissible. No DNA, no case. This is so bad.
destroying the house will not make all evidence retrieved from it inadmissable.
I think the house should stay until after the trial! Especially important for Dylans testimony.
@@JohanaI22 she will
I would love to learn more about his family and upbringing.
@@S.J.P. It helps to understand the person he became. It’s actually important in profiling a convict in the trial.
Yeah, because people just don't end up like this for no apparent reason. Why would he put in all of that hard work academically just to throw it and his life away with such a stupid decision? I get that there are things in life that just may not have answers to, but damn, it's just so nonsensical for someone that smart to do what he did. Or maybe it's just as it seems; his criminology studies made him develop some kind of morbid curiosity and obsession of wondering what it's like to kill someone.
They definitely need to wait until the trial is over. It’s possible that the jury will need to observe the layout of the house and victims position’s. I just want to be sure that the monster who committed these crimes gets what “it” deserves.
I have to say, if anyone has an issue with the firing squad then be sure not to commit a heinous crime 🤷♀️
So so sad. I cannot imagine how you go about cleaning and emptying a house like this where such a horrific crime happened. I'm sure everyone living in the area wants the house gone. That happens a lot like in the case of the house of Ariel Castro where he held Amanda Berry, Gina Dejesus and Michelle Knight. I can also see wanting to keep it to give the jury a chance to walk through the house to understand the scene. One of the jurors of the Alex Murdaugh trial said it was really a turning point for him because he saw how high the threshold was for the door of the feed room. It told him the second weird shot to Paul Murdaugh could have come from Alex tripping backwards over the threshold. That in itself may have been crucial to the case.
Of course but really it should be after the trial ,a 3D video for the jury is not the same as standing in the building, I agree with the families who don't want it done till after trial,but I'm also very aware some the families want it gone , and the students too , so yeah I do get that but personally I feel another 4 months when his trial starts wouldn't be to much longer
I think they took the house down ... Due to the murdered kids ...
I can’t imagine how they feel and what they are going through right now and for the remainder of their lives, unfortunately 😢
Still no weapons…somebody removed them from the property
The Manson murder home of Sharon state was not tore down and much worse happened in that home. It wasn’t removed for more than 20 years and 4 other owners. It’s highly unusual to tear down a home after a murder or murders happened in.
As much as I understand the parents not wanting the memories of this house, I think they should wait until the trial is over just in case the jury might want to look at it, leave no stone unturned.
No murderer deserves to die comfortably especially when they torture their victims
So true. I hope the jury will take emotion out of this case and rule only on the evidence. They better get it right. Everyone’s life is important, including the worst of us. At least that’s my hope
@@eurofox994 HUH?
Demolish the house after the trial, NOT before. It is of course a crime scene (four people were killed in it). Let the jury see the crime scene if possible. I mean, duh.
Can't a judge issue an injunction to stop the demolition until the trial is over?
It is about time we give these criminals to God to deal with. Some of these crimes are horrible. Death penalty needs to be brought back and carried out in a faster time than thirty years later!
Right it dont take 30 years to convict someone
The legal system is corrupt and there are plenty of innocent people falsely imprisoned..
The death penalty is a terrible idea.
@@brittcruz897 Depending on the State it can take 20 to 30 years to carry out the death penalty. In other words they sit on death row far too long before they are ever put to death. Often they die of natural causes before they go to the death chamber.
Some could argue that sitting on death row for decades is more painful.
You're so right. No one wants to hear about who's coming to visit him, who he's dating, or fan mail from psychos, when he brutally planned out the horrible murder and took four precious angels from this earth who had so much potential and beautiful lives ahead of them. I kind of feel that there are so many that would be happy to give the families justice by giving him a fate where he leaves this planet. God bless those beautiful kids and their families :(.
Absolutely agree 100%
The judge needs to impose an injunction against demo of the house til all is said and done.
Yes! The university is taking over and doing a very dumb thing
Wait..why wouldn't they wait til after trial. Jury needs to see crime scene.
I agree. They layout of the house is complicated and could add clarification for jurors. Bad call to demolish before trial.
Put an automatic stay on the property, I'm sure the courts attorney will petition for that. With automatic stay, they can't demolish the home until the stay is lifted.
This home should not be torn down until after the trial is over. I’ve seen homes be gone into 20 years later, abandoned trailers, floor boards lifted, paint removed to solve cold cases after a tip off or a renewal of a detective searching for answers from families. This also will absolutely help the defense as they already tried to tear it down before they even had an arrest and the atty in PA had to have the demolish stopped before Bryan was extradited. Them having no access to this home, the jury, should also be the #1 reason the home stands. The families don’t want the home tore down til after the trial either.
The building that the Parkland School shootings happened in was kept as is for years so that the jury could eventually view it. Boarded up and gated off from the rest of the high school for 5 years until trial. Last I heard the building is still up and the trial is over. I don’t see the rush to demolish the house if it could potentially harm the case.
They still have school at the site!!
@@melina9076I know!! They opened the rest of the school back up shortly after the massacre!
That building was owned by the school district and they had other buildings to have classes. If a house is owned by private people, they may not want their property held for years until a trial is over. The state should get all the evidence and will have a 3D video. I was a juror on a murder trial, the crime scene was a hotel, and we had pictures. We were able to get the idea of the crime scene. Personally, I wouldn't want to go to a crime scene.
@@Kay-fv7cw Well the University owns the house now so they could wait if they wanted to. It seems the rush to get rid of the house is more about protecting their image rather than getting justice. No one ever wants to visit a crime scene but sometimes it’s necessary. This isn’t a typical house. The layout is weird, odd neighborhood roads, the apartment building right there. Yeah 3D is useful but it’s not the same as physically being there. They randomly did a jury trip during the Murdaugh trial and a juror said going there helped him. If it’s torn down the opportunity, whether used or not, is gone forever and that’s the issue.
@Holllyy_H The evidence is not gone. Even with the TH-cam videos, we can see the outline of the house, and the state will have much better video than TH-cam. That juror in AM trial also said the trip didn't change his decision, it was a speculation that AM may have tripped, but didn't change his belief that AM killed his wife and son.
The house must not be demolished at this time. Let the case end then ok to move on with demolishing . What is the rush? It’s a crime place and a reminder to others to be cautious of their surroundings and be alert of their homes roommates…
After the trial they should destroy the house...not before.
@@JohanaI22 the building where the parkland school shooting happened stayed up for years so the jury could view it. Boarded up and gated off from the rest of the high school.
Let the fathers / mothers be the firing squad
I totally agree. If they were my kids I’d gladly pull the trigger with a huge smile on my face.
Poetic justice 🤌
That would be too perfect and the court system can’t have that. Gotta be boring and never let victims have justice because we live in a stupid “civilized” society and must be denied real justice to prove we are “civilized”.
The house absolutely should not be demolished until after the court case is finished and there’s been a conviction, or not.
The jury absolutely must be able to see it if the want because they layout of the house has caused a lot of confusion.
Watching them bring their stuff from that house is devastating. Justnimaging them packing their suitcases to go back to school. So excited and full of hope and life. It will never make sense to me why and how that man could have done this. I know bad things happen everyday but it just feels so senseless. I have a daughter away at school, in a house with her friends where they live their young lives. Heartbreaking. I'm so sorry for their families. It haunts me thinking about what Mr. Gonzales said about sending your kid off to school. You never expect to get them back like this. All those dreams you have for your children even before they were born and it gets taken away for no reason.
Well said, on all points. It is so tragic and senseless.
The individual who murdered them is not "a man", it is a psychopathic monster, a creature with a brain different from yours and mine. Literally different, psychopathic brains show differences on PET scans, their empathy areas are inactive. This is a creature, a thing.
Please, please, please talk to your daughter, get to know her roommates and whom they bring around. Make sure your instill in her that having an open house party atmosphere can and does bring with it many tragedies and traumas to both young women and young men. Make sure she remains vigilant in her surroundings. It’s a scary thing to have to convey but we have found ourselves having to do the same.
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Loving you're having Brian Entin on this - he has so much....care, concern, empathy, and always his diligence towards his cases. Love hearing his coverage!
It shouldn’t go down until the murderer is convicted
WAIT! Let the jury see it before it is razed!
Demolishing the house before the trial is like destroying evidence. Keep it up so prosecution or defense can do a jury walk through. What’s the rush? Money. The University wants it gone and forgotten so their admission numbers aren’t affected. This is such a tragic event, the jury needs to see all the evidence so the right person is sentenced.
First of all, I would have been very upset to have others pack up my child’s belongings. Understand that they looked through their personal items for clues, but to continue packing up their possessions and claim them at another site…doesn’t sit right with me. I admit that I could have misunderstood the purposed procedure. Secondly, the house should remain until after the trial. Again, something is not right with this either.
I agree with everyone that think its too soon!
The jurors on the Murdaugh murders case said it was a great help to be able to see exactly where Maggie and Paul were killed, surely this jury should have the same option
Prosecutors produced no direct evidence linking South Carolina attorney Alex Murdaugh to the killings of his wife and son.
This is a Perfect example of Why you Do Not remove the Evidence... Do Not give the criminal an upper hand to easily get away with This Awful, Unbelievable Tragedy. -C
It's just heartbreaking.
Weird as the investigation goes on that they might have missed something and they might want to go back and look for other evidence.
It would be horrific if BK is killer and gets set free
The crime scene needs to be preserved, until the case is closed!
I’m getting so sick n tired of Ashley banfield, can’t they show more of the other reporters???
Amen .
I know a lot of folks hate the death penalty. but i honestly think its wonderful.
While we have some people in prison who can certainly be redeemed.
We also have ones who shouldnt get to live another minute.
This was four innocent young souls, minding their own business, going home to go to bed.
so brutal that the own cops on scene said they were horrified..
Some people do not deserve redemption.
Send him straight to hell where he belongs.
A few things…
1) he’s innocent until proven guilty
2) innocent men have been put to death and later their innocence was proven
3) the death penalty cost tax payers far more than it does to house an inmate, as they are still imprisoned for decades before being put to death
4) in many ways the death penalty is the easy way out
5) a firing squad is not something that should exist anywhere in a nation that believes themselves to be “civilized”.
Thank you!
YES!
If they feel the house won't require a walk through, it makes me feel as if the evidence they have found and not made public, is so incriminating that they feel it may not be necessary.
Bottom line the house needs to stand so the jury can absolutely walk through and hear the acoustics from Dylan’s room, Bethany’s room, Xana’s room, & where the girls were sleeping. The fact the house has a very odd floor plan, & the prosecutors claiming he was watching them from the back through woods. The jury needs to see and hear all they can to make a final decision. It’s imperative the Jury, Prosecutors, & Defense team should be entitled to have access to until the trial is over.
The reality is most of the students that were at the college won’t be returning as they go for a couple years and move on & either graduate and continue their education at other college campuses so there’s no reason to worry about the actual students at the campus.
I think a walkthrough for a jury should always be done if possible for clarity
I would not need to see this house as a Juror. The evidence is enough. I also don't think a perfectly good house worth thousands of dollars should be torn down because people died in it. People die all the time in all sorts of places. We don't tear down the buildings, destroy the cars, and demolish their workplaces, do we? It has nothing to do with respect, just a waste of resources. Clean up the house and fill it with people again. Put a memorial garden some distance from it, and put a fence around the property so people can live there in peace. Too much drama about this house.
I think they should wait until he is convicted. The Murdaugh case is the best example of that. PLUS, the layout of this house is so weird. I cannot believe they would even consider destroying the crime scene before the trial could even be an option. I think it is irresponsible in that it says they just want to demolish the scene of the crime so they can go back to normal. I am sorry if that is not the owners feeling, but it sure is looking that way. Instead, why don't you leave it alone & plan a memorial for the area, until AFTER the conviction
Pretty sure the college owns that home
Tearing down the house prior to the conclusion of a trial sounds fishy to me.
Actually The public defender halted the cleaning of the crime scene not the removal of the mattresses and furniture. The furniture was taken to somewhere FOR the defense to comb over.
And I pray they don’t tear the house down until after the trial.
That’s right that about the public defender stopped the cleaning of the crime scene. She went to the judge and asked for that and the judge agreed.
As for demolition and removing the ability for the jurors to visit the property:
There are services available, used by realtors that allow 360° viewing walk through of houses. This should be done before anything is removed.
Surely they can't demolish the house before the trial. What if the jury need to go look at it?
@@JohanaI22 they did it for murdaugh, and this is death penalty case with an eye witness. If there is a conviction, one would want to close all loopholes for appeal.
@@JohanaI22 these reporters are starting to anger me. They are pathetic and this firing squad thing? Wtf are they talking about? He would need to be convicted and get death and then choose firing squad. This is absolutely ridiculous.
I am not saying that he needs to be punished for his crimes however a firing squad seems barbaric. It’s like something that they do in a third world country. Also do people get to witness this act? I couldn’t watch that. Just saying.
@@alyciamarie4163the only reason they are discussing the firing squad is because it’s been put into law in Idaho as of late.
My prayers go out to the family of those beautiful young people. 🙏🏻🌹
Please cover the missing sailor story who’s body is still missing in Waukegan IL. 21 yr old who was serving our country. Heartbreaking and needs more publicity.
I think they should wait until after trial to demolish the house especially since it has such an odd layout
How very sad seeing their personal items
i think a family member from each victims family should have the option to be one of the marksman!
It should definitely be a option
The family needs to fight against the demolition until after the trial. Why would they rush this, and who exactly is rushing this 🤔🤔🤔
Please preserve the house until after the trial, just in case it’s needed during the trial. We can’t bring the victims back. Neither will it be possible to revisit the crime scene if it’s later discovered that new information deems it necessary for jurors to visit the house. Is the university privy to information that the public isn’t?
In either case the university could erect a fence/wall or put up a pesticide tent around the entire house/property to obscure the view of the house from prying eyes.
My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones 💔🙏
Thanks Ashley. The 15 second video is very confronting. I had a regular coffee meeting with my siblings this morning and I needed to hold them a second longer, just to feel gratitude. I don’t know how the families would ever begin to recover from this, if in fact they do.
They definitely should make the scene available to the jury to view if requested if only to avoid making it a point in the appeals.
That house should not come down till after the trial... After absolutely !
No good reason to tear it down before a trial. The university owns it, right?
This woman loves this story
I worry it’s a huge mistake to tear down the house. The scene needs to be preserved for the jury because that house was so huge and multi leveled, yet he supposedly killed them in a short period of time. It will be hard for the jury to visualize
Exactly! -C
I cannot even imagine that demolishing the house before trial is even an option ..distressing as it is for families /friends/students....
The students need to be mature, and want Justice for these Fellow peers. They can work through it. The school can provide qualified counselors or group chats so that a student or relative doesn't have to feel alone while they are grieving. The students will be Leaving for the Summer, and
The Truth is the Most Important. They are all going to be in the ''real world" soon, and they can't be protected from everything. There is a Reason for keeping the house Intact until a Conviction is reached. -C
House should up for jury inspection...
Remember: if they execute the wrong guy the judge must face a firing squad .
I think it needs to stay until after the trial. Who knows if the jury wants to see since the house has a weird layout.
Based on this email from the University, I think the items already removed were the two surviving roommates.
Yes!!!!
"the items already removed were the two surviving roommates"😂
@@truthadvocacy Right.🤦♀️🤦♀️
Leave house up until after trial. Maybe it will make the student’s think about staying safe and awareness
Well here's my thought about the firing squad I'm all for we don't deserve to show him any Mercy particularly so what kind of Mercy did he show the victims
I'm watching from a different country and I feel a sadness that they would want to demolish the house before the case has gone to trial. There is nothing more haunting than a jury visiting a crime scene. It is essential that they keep the house until the need for the jury visitation is either denied or agreed to. If there is any doubt in the the minds of the jury members, the visit could secure their decision. I cannot imagine the loss of these kids. What happened to the doggie? My heart is broken for these kids, so young and so unnecessary. A memorial at the address would be a good idea.
I seriously doubt any of those parents would want to go retrieve anything where their kids blood is all over the place.
To destroy the crime scene prior to the end of trial is a really bad idea. A crime scene walk through can be very important
It is way too soon, listen, i understand this is hard, seeing the house but look at it this way, it should be a reminder that justice will be served.
Death penalty needs to be an option nationwide
God I can't imagine the horror inside that house in terms of blood and just what a nightmare it looks like in there 😢
Blood was leaking out of the house. It must have been a bloody mess in there and the stains are still there. How can they even go in there to collect their loved one's goods?
@@justanotherguy469 Yeah I totally agree. The crime scene is definitely how it was that night minus the body and physical evidence but yeah all the blood is still there. That's a nightmare. But there is a chance that if they cleared the scene the families/owner could have had crime scene cleaners in there and clean it by now but who knows. So sad 😞
They should leave the house intact until after the trail.
Most juries don’t actually go to the crime scene and they really don’t need to. They don’t need to be inside the house to determine his guilt or innocence. But I don’t think they should be destroying the crime scene before trial just from an evidentiary standpoint. I don’t like opening the door to the defence coming up with some theory down the road and then saying they’re at a disadvantage because there’s evidence that’s been destroyed.
But in these high profile cases they do walk through the crime scene. Even in that Alex M case they did. Even though they had the scan of the crime scene. There are some things even the scan can't show you. For example it can show the outsides of the house but you can't get a clear comprehension of exactly where the nieghbors camera is in regards to the outside walls of the house. Or like in the AM case one juror said the walk through was the turning point for him because he could actually see exactly how much of a lip was on the feed room threshold. The 3D scans are awesome but even they don't depict everything and some of these tiny details can be huge.
Also the jurors need to be able to see what can be heard from one room to another like in DM's room, what could she hear? Is it really old and creaky and everything can be heard like a previous tenant described or muffled and hard to hear like DM says. Not to mention the lay out of the house. I gotta say even with all the videos of the inside of the house, it's hard to get a clear understanding of it. A walk through could really clear all this up. This is one case that if I were a juror would want a walk through. Just because of the layout itself and wanting to get a better idea of what can/can't be heard from the survivors rooms. Even Xanas room
@@Codered810 A case being high profile has no bearing on whether a crime scene walk through is warranted. Your connection doesn’t make sense to me. And no, they typically don’t go to crime scenes, even in high profile cases. Did Nikolas Cruz’s jury go to the school? Couldn’t you argue the same thing saying that actually being inside the school and seeing the hallway and seeing the classrooms would give you a better visualization of everything that happened? What do you think could actually be gleaned in the Idaho case that couldn’t be accomplished through testimony? Why would they need to go to the house to learn how far away the neighbour’s camera is when it can be testified to in court?
@@Codered810 Well yeah it would be nice. I’d love to have them go through it with some good video recording equipment just to satisfy my own curiosity. But is it necessary for the jurors? No, otherwise all juries would do it. And talking about whether sound travels in the house would actually require the jurors to violate the rules. They have to go by testimony, not do experiments. They can’t put someone in Xana’s room and someone in Dylan’s room and pretend to whimper to test out whether she could’ve heard that the night of the murders. That’s an automatic mistrial. They have to go by testimony, not by their personal experience of the evidence. They have to decide whether they believe Dylan based on what they hear in court, not what they hear at the crime scene.
@@trickortrump3292 they have the 3D scan. Where jurors can put on glasses and it's literally like they are there. If the scanners did a thorough enough scan it will be better than nothing but I still don't think it's enough. And trust that they scanned everything the jurors want to see. It scans everything above and around the scanner but nothing below it. Could miss something crucial.
Seeing those people remove those angels' belongings was very sad.
It needs to stay put until the trial is over
Nothing should happen to the house til after the trial.
That house needs to stay up until the trail is over. Its STILL a crime scene just like all the boxes of evidence they took out! Im kinda puzzled why its even a question in terms of justice for these 4 young adults that tragically lost there lives!!
It was horrible what happened to those college kids. May they get the justice they deserve.
Miss Banfield, please do a story on Shanquella Robinson. I believe this story is getting swept under.
Because they're not doing anything new. Mexico won't charge them.
@@amyrenee9165 it's either the femicide charge or the location has ties in the upper echelons
Could be both 🤔
They can´t leave the house standing. The house tells the truth.
If the case goes to a jury trial, it`s best to let the house stay for jurors to view the crime scene. imo Maybe they want this case to disappear.
WTF?!? DO NOT DEMOLISH THAT HOUSE!!! What are you thinking?! Wait until someone is behind bars and has exhausted their appeals. This isn’t even a case of the owner needing something out of that house. It has literally been gifted to the uni. WTAF?
Ive always felt Bryan would not have so easily agreed to waive a speedy trial that would not resume till June if he were innocent.
Are you kidding! Do you think the butchering of these four innocent college students was humane???? Remember at least one had defensive wounds. What about humane treatment for her???
The University shouldn't have any control over an off campus house.
The owners who donated the house to the University should be looked into.
I hope the Defense files a motion to preserve the house until trial is over.
I also hope the Defense goes back to the 2 original officers on scene, Smith & Nunes bodycams.....see if that sheath made an appearance on those bodycams. I'll bet it didn't. 👀
I hope that the parents of the victims were given the opportunity, if they desired, to visit the house where their child died. A step in grieving and closure. I know if it had been my child, I would need it despite how difficult it would be .
Tear it down. The world doesn't owe the jury a field trip.
This lady is so annoying, why does she want an answer so bad? So she can keep twisting things around? Why would you give time to the public to give their opinion, when the trial hasn’t even started. The media really does mess up everything.
Can you not remove the banner at the bottom please. It is very annoying.
This is just heartbreaking for the family. Every step of this isn't easy and now they have to think about this. I believe that, if there are family members that would like the house to stand until after the trial, I think that is fair. It was a crime scene, so I would imagine that it does matter.
Talk about compromising a crime scene
If it has been “released to the “university “ it’s deemed no longer a crime scene-
I completely disagree- especially about jurors being able to go there and hear what Dylan was hearing ( or apparently not hearing) she needs to go under lie detector at minimum but
Not before trial!
Special Report.
Repeating the same thing in 5 minute clips. Cutting off early as usual 💀
I don’t live in Idaho but I’d be glad to come out there and pull one of those triggers. I’m pretty sure there’d be quite a line out there for open tryouts for that one, should it come to that.