Best trait in Bad North? - Commander Trait Tierlist - Tips and Tricks

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  • @codyfreeziorswatchchannel8071
    @codyfreeziorswatchchannel8071 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    For mountain, you can at least be sure that your commander can fight alone for longer. For popular, i think it would be better if it gives one extra troop for each upgrade to veteran.

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah I agree with that for popular

    • @JonazSantos-n8r
      @JonazSantos-n8r 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it's better to buff popular trait from 1 soldier to 3 just like the traits picture or something

  • @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
    @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Fleet of foot can be really helpful for pikes as they need to get to their designated position fast so they can set up and get ready to fight.

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes this is a very good point!

  • @Its_me_Stolas
    @Its_me_Stolas 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Iron skin is an A. I mean, for non-infrantry squad it is good against archers and ballistas, and for ifrantry, it is good against Ballistas, Assasins aka dual wielders and maybe Brutes. But the problem with the last ones is that they usually send your units flying into the water. they don't really care about it

  • @rickliska5005
    @rickliska5005 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Sure footed is definitely an S in my book pikes become just unbreakable and infantry stomp Brute archers. I HATE brute archers.

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, anything that helps against Brute Archers is good!

    • @jashleyuy1822
      @jashleyuy1822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe try to put the sure footed traits unto a knight to counter brute archers and brute.

    • @Ricardo-ck7zd
      @Ricardo-ck7zd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      pikes can still be broken into like normally, its only really useful for putting them in front of landing boats, and even then only when is a low amount of enemies otherwise is too risky

    • @idrozdyt
      @idrozdyt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure footed infantry with Jabena as a start squad promoted to elites with priority is arguably the best set up to get through early to mid very hard game with least amount of stressing about brutes - you dont have to rely so much on pikemen.

  • @codyfreeziorswatchchannel8071
    @codyfreeziorswatchchannel8071 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Fearless has another effect in that your troops and commander becomes more aggressive at attacking. Since when fighting brute, the troops tend to distance themselves away from the brute because they're scared

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Did not know that! Makes it more interesting to me

    • @corporaljay6165
      @corporaljay6165 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really!? That's cool! I think a Bad North 2 and/or more DLC and/or Steam Workshop would be epic.

    • @archierobinson8445
      @archierobinson8445 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@corporaljay6165definitely needs an endless mode too

    • @limuelmagbanua3137
      @limuelmagbanua3137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ohh that should help with my pike men moving when viking charge at em

    • @KaickyTop1
      @KaickyTop1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@roguebrothers Além do fato de que, quando equipado nos lanceiros, eles quase nunca levantam suas lanças e ficam vulneráveis se um inimigo chegar perto demais, o que pra mim é a melhor trait para os lanceiros.

  • @JonazSantos-n8r
    @JonazSantos-n8r 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Here's a fun fact: the brute commander can knock back enemy brutes the same way as a regular enemy, meaning enemy brutes gets knocked back like regular small enemies, really helpful if you want to use your brute commander to knock BIG BOYS! into the water (do note that you need to have an army with the mountain trait for you to have a brute commander)

  • @jakobschoch2141
    @jakobschoch2141 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice Tierlist!
    One of my favorite starting combinations is heavy load with mines, then you immediately get 3 mines, which often enables this character to solo islands. Also 5 powerful mines are fun :)
    What I like about the speed trait is that it even is kinda similar to rousing speeches. This may not be true on small maps, but very much so on bigger ones. If you think about it, it doesn´t really matter whether the character spends more time running towards a house, or replenishing inside a house, and if you save a lot of time running towards the houses, then it`s just rousing speeches with a little bonus. (again, not true for all maps)
    love your videos

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You make a good point with the Fleet of Foot trait! - I hadn't considered that positive

  • @BEANS690
    @BEANS690 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Here, have some beans for the effort you put into this video :p

  • @my-spinning-wheel
    @my-spinning-wheel ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your Bad North videos are awesome. I still haven't beaten the game on NORMAL even a single time after like 15 hours+ of play. I keep dying RIGHT before checkpoint two, but am reloading back to checkpoint one because I have an archer with heavy weapons and the item that gives you extra guys in your squad, which is very OP. Anyways, very entertaining watching your stuff.

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one! Keep going - you'll get there!

  • @DerExplorer
    @DerExplorer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Energetic and War Hammer is such a BIG OP combo!

  • @xomvoid_akaluchiru_987
    @xomvoid_akaluchiru_987 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey! I'm an avid Bad North player myself, if you're not already I'd recommend joining the server for the publisher Raw Fury. Diehard fans like us regularly debate stuff there :)

  • @carrotiesyt
    @carrotiesyt ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Having collector and philly stone at the start of a run can really give you an edge for the entire run because your making that 3 extra gold constantly, I would def bump it up myself

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I need to try this to understand how powerful it is! Thanks

  • @Fella_friend
    @Fella_friend 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Popular + ring of command on archers is really strong. Also popular on pike men make them able to take on one more brute along the climbing kill zone’s because 4 pike men line up along the end instead of 3. Effectively adding 25% damage to the kill zone

  • @loadingscreen8888
    @loadingscreen8888 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sharp weapon pikes are very useful to me. They kill and pierce shields easier which helps them reposition faster in multi-boat waves so it's just a better fast foot trait. Sharp weapons also help pike hold against big waves of basic enemies since they just need 1 tip impact( pikes don't poke when they are overwhelmed and try to hold formation) to be killed and normal pike often need 2 which lets some enemy break formation
    S in my book because it helps archers and swordsmen too

    • @JonazSantos-n8r
      @JonazSantos-n8r 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tho the Main strength of pikes are their knock back and sharp weapons trait takes away their strength because sharp weapons reduces knock back but increases damage

    • @loadingscreen8888
      @loadingscreen8888 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @JonazSantos-n8r The knockback is the most useful if you put pikes in an open field but in choke points or hills damage becomes more useful since knocking enemies back without killing them would drag the fight longer. Enemies hesitate to approach pikes in open fields too and they only attack if they think they can overwhelm which can be true and leaves your pikes defenceless

    • @JonazSantos-n8r
      @JonazSantos-n8r 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loadingscreen8888 K i respect your opinion

  • @chadboy
    @chadboy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you did the fearless trait wrong, from my experience the fearless trait makes the squad much more aggressive, this is particularly useful when fighting sword brutes since normal infantry do not immediately attack brutes head on unless the brute has been knocked down by a mine or bomb, their attack speed is also a bit faster because of their aggressiveness.
    i always have a squad with the fearless trait the only problem obviously is that you cannot flee with that squad so you need to be good or else your dead.
    love your vids 👍❤

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fair enough - I will try to utilize fearless at some point

    • @chadboy
      @chadboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roguebrothers its pretty good especially at the later islands where you could get overrun by enemies.
      love your vids ❤

  • @Its_me_Stolas
    @Its_me_Stolas 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean positioning in this game is a good thing. Fleet of foot is incerdibly good on bug islands or islands with 3 or 4 levels, or tons of stairs. Pretty solid on archers when you need to step away after you failed to clear brute boats or thined out infrantry/axe throwers ships. And it is a viable option for pikemen squad, since sometimes you don't have time to reach the chokepoint and need valuably positioned infrentry to deal with the enemy, whereas if you had that perk, you would reach it in time

  • @wasabihands4223
    @wasabihands4223 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually surefooted is my favourite offensive trait on pikes! Place pikes on the square a boat will land and they can kill everyone on board when they arrive. This depends on the type of unit and the amount, but you'd be surprised how effective it is. This is like creating your own chokepoints and makes pikes really good even on flat terrain. It takes some gameknowledge to know which unit sizes they can take on and at which level. There is a lot you can do with this combo :)

  • @samk3lly
    @samk3lly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might makes right. XP Seriously though, a very interesting tier list, indeed. You make a lot of good points on where you placed them and why you placed them there. I can't wait for your next Bad North series. I wonder what you have in store for us. It'll be epic, I'm sure.

  • @GildonUser
    @GildonUser ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to your videos and guides, I completed the game on my second run.

  • @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
    @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Collector: best with philosopher stone but still helpful anyway
    C for all
    Energetic: good for all skills but only good for warhammer and war horn items, best with warhammer
    Infantry-A
    Pikes-A
    Archers-B
    Fearless: less hesitant around brutes and can’t board ships, a fun gimmick
    Infantry-C
    Pikes-D
    Archers-D
    Fleet of foot: great for large islands or complex map layout
    Infantry-B
    Pikes-A
    Archers-B
    Heavy load: +1 only for war horn, mines, or bomb (unnecessary for horn/mines imo)
    Infantry-B
    Pikes-C
    Archers-C
    Heavy weapons: increased knockback good for shields/brutes
    Infantry-B
    Pikes-D
    Archers-S
    Iron skin: best for units expecting a lot of damage
    Infantry-S
    Pikes-B
    Archers-C
    Mountain: leader can become a brute, mainly a gimmick though
    Infantry-B
    Pikes-C
    Archers-D
    Popular: only adds 1 to the unit, makes squad only a tad better
    C for all
    Rousing speeches: best for high casualty units
    Infantry-A
    Pikes-C
    Archers-D
    Sharp weapons: best for shields and brutes
    Infantry-B
    Pikes-S
    Archers-A
    Skillful: just okay, saved a few coins
    C for all
    Sure footed: pushed around less by enemies
    Infantry-B
    Pikes-S
    Archers-D
    Let me know your thoughts/questions on my rankings

  • @trengilly01
    @trengilly01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The one time I used the bad 'Fearless'' trait was on my initial Jabena unit. I knew the Jabena unit was only for the early game (island grabbing pikeman) and didn't need a lot of upgrades. By giving it Fearless, I removed that trait from the pool so that I would have better odds of finding units with good traits as I progressed through the game.

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that's a good idea!

  • @ryeoma
    @ryeoma 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for me my traits are
    infantry: ironskin
    infantry (second group): rousing speeches
    pikes: sure footed
    archers: no trait

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ironskin is a really strong trait on Infantry

  • @larecruitlel2333
    @larecruitlel2333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Surefooted freaking amazing put that on infentry and brute are a joke brute relies on knock back but beside that your soldier will also survive a bit long not as long as if you had iron skin BUT you survive a bit longer because some other ennemis relies on knock back like the dual weilded blade OVERALL thay are just more resistant to knockback i core aspect of the game

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice point - I honestly need to test this trait more!

  • @carljernberg2899
    @carljernberg2899 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I get the chance, I often go for archers with popular and ring of command. 😁

  • @Its_me_Stolas
    @Its_me_Stolas 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Collector trait and philosopher stone. Story of practically infinite money strating from mid game to the very end

  • @codyfreeziorswatchchannel8071
    @codyfreeziorswatchchannel8071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iron skin, jabana at the beginning is pretty op lol

  • @itsamine4840
    @itsamine4840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do no items and traits on very hard as a challenge.

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's a good idea - I'll keep it in mind (although you don't have access to many commanders with NO traits)

    • @itsamine4840
      @itsamine4840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s part of the challenge.

  • @themobiusquadron
    @themobiusquadron ปีที่แล้ว

    Sharp Weapons : is A tier with Archer/Pike : Pike obliterates shield units and brutes having the quickest DPS. Problem with knockback is that you would have to play in open ground instead of choke points as pushing and stunning other brutes or shields slows them down but they extend the live longer, slowing down the process of killing the enemy in chokepoints. Archer being able to Kite brutes or defeat them as they arrive via the boats is another plus. Infantry has been better using all the defensive options while using all offensive on pikes and archers at least concerning traits.

  • @leninthebeaniesouhacker.2459
    @leninthebeaniesouhacker.2459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    btw, any chances of you doing some guides on age of wonders planetfall? it's basically civ with xcom combat

  • @terrarian2503
    @terrarian2503 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mountain can be especially helpful against brute enemies as you commander can go toe to toe when fighting them

    • @JonazSantos-n8r
      @JonazSantos-n8r 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro for me i mainly use mountain for fun instead of strength, it's just funny seeing your own brute knocking enemies in the water 😂

  • @idrozdyt
    @idrozdyt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Elite archers with fleet of foot and ring of command just KILL EVERYTHING

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I should try this

  • @bobbyjoey07
    @bobbyjoey07 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think there will ever be a second Bad North? I really hope there is 👍

  • @masterboy3077
    @masterboy3077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my opinion abilities are useless, and items to. The ultimate meta is to just go for 2-3 Archers and upgrade them as fast as possible. They are op, they can kill anything before it even touches the island, exept those fat archers, therefore the trait that makes items cheaper is S+ tier, cause together with the money stone you can make so much money which you then put into archers and win easily.

  • @felicxis
    @felicxis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d use collector on ring of command, those upgrades are not cheap

  • @TheHugeDuckie
    @TheHugeDuckie ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! :D

  • @Byz_enjoyer
    @Byz_enjoyer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this game was a banger

  • @r.p.larose6844
    @r.p.larose6844 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed you have "level restart" clicked on during your pike only videos, do you edit out your failed attempts later?

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to leave this on for my old attempts because I was new to streaming and I wanted to have the ability to re-record an island in case the recording went wrong. As I got more confident in the recording process I stopped doing this as you will see on my latest runs!

    • @r.p.larose6844
      @r.p.larose6844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roguebrothers cool! Thanks for the reply. I am trying to do Pike's only on Very hard without restarts. After quite a few failed attempts, I found your play to seem almost impossibly good! But as we speak i'm finally on a great run, island 10 with 4 commanders, a holy grail for back-up, jabenna, and currently 3 full waves ahead of the turn curve. I think i'm finally getting the hang of facing the archers with pikes, but i'm scared for the archer brutes and axe men. Any tips?! Thanks for the helpful videos!

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@r.p.larose6844 It is def one of the most difficult challenge runs! My tip would be to try to line up Pike charges because if you get those right they can be super powerful! But I agree it is a very 'glass cannon' run which is very unforgiving!
      I think on Pike only I had a few practice runs before I achieved the completed run btw

  • @Bonnie-1.9.8.0
    @Bonnie-1.9.8.0 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you get traits?

    • @roguebrothers
      @roguebrothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Certain characters have traits (randomly), and some of those characters will unlock traits as 'starting traits'

    • @Bonnie-1.9.8.0
      @Bonnie-1.9.8.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roguebrothers thanks

  • @peterbarlow-u4s
    @peterbarlow-u4s หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mountain is an A tier easy🤫🤫