The legacy of the Confederate Guerrilla fighters was also captured in one of Clint Eastwood’s greatest films! “The Outlaw Josey Wales” Anyone who appreciated this video and history lesson should check out that Eastwood classic to see this forgotten chapter of history dramatized.
"Ride with the Devil" with Tobey McGuire is one of my favorite civil war movies. It's about the Bushwhackers in Missouri and Kansas area. It's a must see if your into civil war history.
The "Bushwhackers"...? Sounds like a heavy metal band, or a sex cult. Either way, somebody's gonna get hurt. Quantrill was a thug, a terrorist, and an apparent pedophile. Just the kind of hero that the Old South treasured back then. Like the narrator said, he was an equal opportunity outlaw. One day helping slaves to get away, the next assisting the runaway slave catchers. I guess as long as the money was green, he was on your side. Thought he was an older man. Died at 27 just like a rock star..Kansas and Missouri were really wild in those years. We can blame them for helping to set off the Civil War. Poor rascals...
Here in Southern Missouri, there were no men volunteering for the Confederacy until General Sigel and his men from St Louis raided and robbed their way through the Ozarks. After that, all these counties were anti-Union. I'm 70 years old. In our Missouri history classes we viewed Quantrill, Jesse James, and Cole Younger as heroes. The Northern Armies did a lot of damage down here.
So, you think that an opportunist who was just as happy making money capturing run-away slaves as helping them escape was a “hero”? You and I have different definitions of the word “hero”.
@@bluewater454 Yep, just like "FATHER LINCOLN". AS HE WAS CAMPAIGNING TO BE PRESIDENT, DEPENDING ON THE CROWD HE WAS SPEAKING TO, HE ADVOCATED FOR THE REMOVAL OF BLACK PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT. HE ALSO STATED THAT THE BLACK AND WHITE RACES COULD IN NO WAY COEXIST, AND IF HE WAS ELECTED, HE WOULD DO SOMETHING TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM. TALK ABOUT AN OPERTUNIST, AMIRIGHT?
@@bluewater454 I can look back at any historical hero and find faults. It isn't so much that Quantrill was a hero, but he was the only protection the people here had against the Union forces. It's all perspective.
@@Ammo08 I get the idea of imperfect hero’s, but I couldn’t find anything in the narrative presented here to give him that status. He was a petty thief and opportunist who broke contracts, ran away from his obligations, and went with whatever side paid him at the time, whether it was helping slaves escape or capturing runaways if the bounty paid enough - and this was before he became notorious for burning, looting and murdering. So tell me what exactly made him a hero to you - besides maybe fighting on the side of the slavers(if that makes him anything close to being a hero).
@@bluewater454 There were few if any slaves in the Southern Ozarks. He kept the marauding Federal forces away. it's not there is a hero cult for the man, but he isn't viewed as the devil incarnate.
I live in Jackson County Missouri. A slew of its country roads bestow names of those that rode with Quantril. I had the pleasure to work on the set first scene in Ride with the Devil on the Missouri River Bank in Sibley Missouri.
The Confederate guerrilla had no choice but to become outlaws because the Union refused to grant them amnesty after the war. Amnesty was also refused for Mosby and his men even though Mosby was tasked by Robert E Lee personally to create a guerrilla force. Mosby, a lawyer by trade, used the rules of legal privateering to conduct his operations within the recognized legal rules of war.
Growing up in Northern Virginia, I have always had an interest in Mosby. When I was in high school we used to go buy music from this "Head" shop in Manassas actually. In talking with the owner we found out his Great Grandfather was a raider. He said "I have a picture of Mosby and some of his men at my Great Grandfather's house". He goes in the back comes out with the picture and told us "That's him, Mosby...". Thank you for the video, someone to read up on.
@brionhannan1204 That's awesome that someone actually has a photo of Mosby on family property. He was one of the finest tactician in American history and one of the most interesting men of his time. Voted against secession, but fought because he was loyal to his home state and the constitution. He and his wife were raised on plantations, yet were abolitionist in their beliefs. I read that most of his spy network was comprised of the local slaves, and as his success grew, a percentage (10-20%?) of the local slaves rode with his raiders. He didn't give a damn about the color of a man's skin, only about his loyalty to his comrades.
Thank you so very much for covering this particular piece of neglected history. I was so happy to learn of how my home state of Kentucky played a part in this story. This man was certainly some type of character, what a story he wrote for himself.
If you want to do a forgotten history segment on Confederate bushwhackers, I would suggest you research Sam Hildebrand. He’s the only guerilla/bushwhacker to write an autobiography after the war.
The nonfiction book “ Inside War: The Guerrilla Conflict in Missouri During the Civil War” by Michael Fellman, is a thoroughly researched historical account of how the Civil War was conducted in Missouri. It was bloody murder, arson, and looting in the extreme.
Perhaps you should have mentioned the fighting that had gone on for 20 years before the Civil War started! You seemed to only state the negatives that Quantrel committed but damn little of what Kansas Redlegs did to SO many in Missouri!
Thanks for this fantastic video Colin. I’d heard of Quantrill’s Raiders & the St Laurence Massacre but that’s it. The rest of this video was new to me. BTW since you Mosby aka the Grey Ghost, will there be a show on him too because he deserves one. Man captured a Union general and 100 Union troops without even firing a shot and was one of the few to receive the Confederate Medal of Honour.
The Yankee General he planned to take prisoner to give the South a better bargaining position at war's end was none ther than Ulysses S Grant. After the war, he personally released Mosby from prison and commuted his death sentence; they became close friends and Mosby even campaigned in VA, helping Grant win the Presidential election
Jesse James is buried just up the road from me, my great grandmother would tell us about her father riding with Quantrill and helping burn down Lawrence.
I watched your latest installment of “Forgotten History” with great interest. I found it to be typically well done and very thorough. In the course of my own genealogical research I discovered that my 2d great grandfather, Lewis Washington Bailey and his brother, Joseph Marion Bailey were CSA officers. My uncle Joe Bailey wrote his memoir of his time as a Confederate soldier but more specifically his time as a Confederate guerrilla. In the years after the Civil War Joe would recount his stories to his grandchildren living in Austin, Texas. At their urging he dictated his memories and they were passed down to his grandchildren and succeeding generations. When I met a previously unknown cousin of mine she placed a copy of his fascinating type written memoir in my hands. A few years later I discovered that a historian at Hill College in Hillsboro, Texas had annotated and published those memoirs entitled “Confederate Guerrilla: The Civil War Memoir of Joseph M. Bailey.” In his memoir Uncle Joe discusses the perspective that he and his family had on the bourgeoning conflict. His family, whose home was in Ft. Smith, Arkansas (very near Pea Ridge) considered slavery to be a sin but they loved their home and fought to defend it against the deprivations of the Union Army. While Uncle Joe made no mention of Quantrill he did participate in the Battle of Pea Ridge, the siege of Port Hudson, his capture by Union forces, his time in a Union POW camp, his escape and his journey on foot back up the Mississippi River to his family’s home in Ft. Smith. I have always felt that his memoir read like that wonderful movie starring Jude Law and Nicole Kidman “On Cold Mountain.” I highly recommend Uncle Joe’s book to anyone interested in a first person account of the war and underlying perspectives on that terrible conflict.
Gen. Morgan was much the same, he ended up in Ohio Pen. and escaped a few months later. His raids into Kentucy on the RR's is interesting. His great raid into Indiana and Ohio is still the talk of some folks here in the Buckeye state. For years I portrayed Gen. Morgan and much of the Love and Hate is still there. Enjoyed the vid. Thanks
After the war Morgan became friends with Grant. He served respectfully in the US Government. He was a well known for reconciliation. He definitely did NOT buy into the “lost cause” fake history so many people fall for. I really respect Morgan. He fought hard for his state with distinction but moved forward post war.
@@timatkn No... Mogan Died in Greenville Tenn. They shot him full of holes and dragged his body about town till the yankee chaplain demanded they stop their game. When this happened, they cut parts of his clothes off as keep sakes. He was buried in Hollywood cem. but moved to Lexington Ky in 68. It's noted that the yankees who were fighting for the N. that their wives and girlfriends would write letters asking them if John Morgan was as handsome as they say he is.. When he turned himself in after the great raid, the train took him to Columbus, Ohio where ladies would crowd the streets just to see him. As for him and Grant getting along.. Never and Not likely. He was one of the first to fly the 1st National Confederate flag above his business in Lexington. He knew that going to war with the N. would be a very close shave. He gave his all for the South and died for it. I'm not really sure where you get your info at, you may want to read Basil W. Dukes book about Gen. Morgan, Basil was his brother=in-law. Also a great book is from James Ramage, he has No love for Morgan, but he does give a great acout of the mans life. Peace..
Great vid Colin, as a kid it never failed to fascinate me when The Outlaw Josey Wales came on. Hey, heres a show idea, maybe youve covered it already, but after the last Indian uprising in Minnesota, Iowa, and the Dakotas Colonel Sibley was tasked to take care of the problem. He formed up the 7th Minnesota Volunteer Infantry and well, theres a whole lot more to the story. My GGG Grandfather was there that day, a poor German farmer who had been in country all of 10 or 12 years. Crazy family story I never knew about until maybe a decade ago.
There's no comparison between Quantrill and Mosby. Mosby was sanctioned as a Partisan Ranger, and never burned or looted for "fun". Only took ownership of Federal property, not private property. Mosby later became a US Customs House official in China, under President Grant.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL fuck that!quantrills raiders did what the south wouldn't and is the reason the south lost!you can't beat an opponent who has no honor no rules and no authority to answer to!just ask sherman!long live the memory of all southern soldiers!recognized or otherwise!let's hear it for jessee and frank James!let's hear it for holt collier!let's hear it for Nathan bedford forest!let's hear it for anyone who took up arms against a tyrannical government that benefited from the practice they vilified the south for practicing legally until the 13th amendment!let's hear it for anyone who fought to dissolve an involuntary union!by a tyrant!fuck lincoln!
Mosby was an "irregular" but obeyed the rules of war. At one time a Union general ordered that 5 prisoners from Mosby's command be hung. Mosby hung the next 5 officers his men had captured and that was the end of that. BTW: Mosby was close to an abolitionist before the war. After the war, he became a Good Republican.
And this is the first time I'm hearing of this man. Thank you for this excellent treatment of Quantrill. He comes across as an opportunist, thief and killer. A perfect politician!
I am retired Army born in WV and went to college to teach History, begin with the Generals first and then move on to the Colonels , and the irregular Commanders. Shelby Foote is a good place to start!
Awesome work Colin I enjoyed it I live in Ohio where Morgan's Raiders went through maybe you could do one about them not many people know they were Raiders too
It’s said that the Civil War actually started in Kansas known then as Bloody Kansas and spilled over into the surrounding states when the military hostilities began and were very personal towards everyone involved
Actually, it started in South Carolina where the first shot was fired by the Confederates, bless their hearts. And to this day the north is trying to force their nonsense on the south. Ain't gonna happen. You may need tough guy Joe and his F14's. If you disagree with this. come on down and FAAFO.
If you haven’t already, I suggest doing a video on Cassius M Clay, who was a hardcore abolitionist and 2nd amendment guy who was a war hero of the Mexican-American War and Lincoln had considered to make him be his VP in 1860. The Fat Electrician did an awesome video on him and I think you could definitely expand on Clay.
I think they need to play some documentaries in congress for congress. Show Schumer, swallelwell, Pelosi, McConnell...."MCCA" MAKE CONGRESS CASSIUS AGAIN"
Please do a video on my favorite cavalry officer…the Gray Ghost, Captain John S. Mosby !? He was quite a character…. Especially his supposed (waking up) by smacking the backside of a Union General or Colonel. 😂
Yes,the civil war was horrible,650,000 soldiers died and that's not including the civilian casualties,soldiers wounded severely ( where they lost limbs and couldn't work ) then a long reconstruction period for the south.
If you tell the story of Quantrill’s without talking about the brutal treatment of civilians in Missouri by the Union Army and the Jayhawkers throughout the war, you are not telling the whole story. This film does mention the prison that relatives of the raiders were put into collapsed, but should mention the evidence that it collapsed because the building was intentionally weakened by the soldiers guarding it. That forms the context for how Quantrill’s raiders behaved themselves.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL You could corroborate the fact that there was a general order from the Union Army which ordered all the people out of several counties of Missouri, with no provision for how they would feed or shelter themselves as a result of this displacement. Harry Truman was named for an uncle who was tortured by Jayhawkers. His mother told him to check the silver marks on the utensils in the white house to see if any of the silverware was their family's stolen silverware by the Union Army. Jesse James' stepfather was tortured by union soldiers, and was brain damaged for the rest of his life. These are the kinds of things that might inspire people to retaliate in similar ways.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL The mere fact that innocent women and children were put into prison by the Union Army constitutes war crimes. The fact that many ended up dead or maimed as a result of their imprisonment adds to the nature of the war crimes. The British treated American civilians far better than the Union Army did.
Many of Quantrill's Raiders settle around Saint Joseph Mo. When I was a boy, I grew up visiting with a few of their grandchildren who were old then, that was back in the 1960,70s, it was fun to hear their firsthand stories about their grandparents. Saint Joe sided with the Confederates, as did many in my own family.
Pleaae do a video on the Oyster Wars between Delaware and Virginia. One about Vermont's war of independence from New York would be pretty interesting too.
Long live the memory of the confederate warriors holt collier,the james Brothers and all the unsung confederate soldiers!down with the union up with the cross!
The first Native American general was General Stand Watie of the CSA Cherokee Braves. The first Hispanic American general was General Santos Benavides of the Confederados from South Texas.
1. kevinbarrow5396 - The South got less than it deserved. And it deserved a lot. Try being a poor Southern farmer sometime living on the edge while the plantation owners made all the political decisions and lived in the big house. 2. The Five Nations fought on both sides. The Cherokee, Choctaw and Creek Indians had a number of men who owned slaves and ran medium sized plantations in the land that was seized from them. They took their slaves with them to the Indian Territory. They sided with Richmond. The traditionalists among the Creek, Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Seminoles supported the Union. The Seminoles especially, given that they were driven off their lands because they gave refuge to runaway slaves. During the first winter of the war, the Traditionalists had been driven into Kansas and suffered horribly. The Union then drove the Confederates out of southern Missouri and northern Arkansas and back into Texas, where they suffered from a lack of supplies promised by the Confederacy. 3. One of the first "Colored" regiments, the 1st Kansas Volunteer Rgt (Colored) was raised and fought from the late 1862. They formed the center of the Union line at the Battle of Honey Springs driving off six mounted and dismounted attacks by Confederate Cherokees and Texas Rangers. They were recruited from runaway slaves from Missouri, Arkansas and Texas.
I grew up in MOSBYs area of operations. In Fairfax the house that Mosby captured the general and got away with horses, mules ect. Maybe do a show on Mosby the grey ghost. Because of mosby Washington removed all planks on the bridges.
Sunnyvale, CA. City Library has a Civil War 'Encyclopedia' which lists 'Raider Weldon' as one of Quantrill's Captains. I was startled/surprised, because my family hails from Missouri and our family name is Weldon.
My 2 great granduncle "Guerilla" Tom Henry ran with Quantrill and the James boys. Last heard of him around 1900 as a starter at the race track in Paducah, KY with Frank James. I think my grandmother Vick ended up with his notched pistol.
Quantrell sounds like an opportunist whose only cause was himself. Having said that I suspect that most of the men under him did have a cause, but whether that was about slavery or simply fighting for their family and farms may never be known.
Reminds me of some of the stories about the 30 years war in Europe about 250 years earlier where lots of opportunists fought on both sides at various points.
Yeah it's a real head scratcher... im sure his men (99% of whom didn't own slaves) were totally "fighting for slavery"... cause that's what the government taught me in public school! "dAh uNiOn fOuGhT tO fReE dA sLaVeS sO dEy wAs dA gOoD gUyS!"
I am somehow distantly related to Bloody Bill Anderson. My mother's maiden name was Anderson. Her family were involved in the Johnson County Wars. According to my understanding. Jesse and Frank James. Stayed in the house that my great, great Grandfather Anderson lived in. Southeast of La Tour Missouri. For a week and kept their horses in the barn on the property. While enroute to Osceola Missouri to hook up with Cole Younger and his gang. My great, great Grandfather Anderson was a Baptist and a Mason. Evidently the James Boys were too. I was born in Houston Texas. My parents are both from Missouri. Mom was born on a farm outside Garden City Missouri and dad was born and raised in Lincoln Missouri. My Missouri roots run deep.
My Great Great Uncle was a Methodist Minister, a prominent member of the Masons and highly regarded for his honesty an integrity. He and his family had moved from Tennessee to Missouri well before the Civil War. Tragically, Jayhawkers killed him while he was sleeping in his own bed. As a result, my Great Great Grandfather joined the Confederate 8th Missouri. In one of the battles he was in his Brother-In-Law, a Union Soldier from Missouri, was killed. It tore the family apart. After the war he and his family tried to return to Missouri, but his wife's family, my Great Great Grandmother's family, shunned them. As a result they moved to Texas. I'm a Texan.
My family went through this in Missouri and Texas in the War. My Mother’s family would let the James Boys hide out at their place in North Texas at times when it was too hot for them in Missouri
A close pard gave me a book about a man called jack hinson the famous 3 rivers southern sniper. His political standing was neutral until his sons were executed one Sunday morning while hunting by zealot union misfits looking for bushwackers. innocents sometimes get caught up in the mess. But when those misfits decapitated the 2 boys and stuck their heads on the entrance posts walk way did jack finally chose sides. His custom smithed cap & ball rifle had up to 101 notches on buttstock.
"You young`ns would never survive in the old days" *Stops to build a TOWN I`ve been 6 months waiting for approval on a permit I had to pay upfront to build a shed on land I already paid for... I`d like to see the people in the old days survive now, is more like it.
Im in the center of the guerilla areas right now. Mosby's Confederacy and the McNeill's Partisan Rangers. Captains John and, later, Jessie McNeill were my great-great-great grand uncle and great-great grand uncle. Jessie took over command after his father was gravelly wounded at Meems Bottom. The sword Jessie captured from Gen. Crook is still in his granddaughter's family.
Except for that pesky slave issue and the fact that king cotton fired first. Neo confederate history revisionists are so boring. The south today would disagree with the south of 1859
The south will rise again, We always knew it would we Just had to wait this long to do it. But it's not the same South as it was , today's South is white and black and latino... and we are all proud to be from the South and we'll fight together against any invader. The south will not lose again
The Vatican backed the Confederacy and had diplomatic relations. The Vatican also instigated race riots in New York between Irish Catholic immigrants and Blacks by saying that the Blacks were stealing the jobs of the Union soldiers and that too many Catholics were taking the place of wealthy Americans through payments to do so in the draft. Most of the Confederate war heroes were Catholic. Only 10% of the Confederate population owned slaves. Most of the Confederacy was relatively poor and living a serfdom like existence. They were a bit like the French peasants who fought for the royalists during the French Revolution.
there were also jewish confederates of german origin, some major plantation owners, some of whom had multiple sons who fought valiantly for the south. The Union is the only army to ever burn down a jewish synagogue on us soil
I am a cousin to the youngers and james brothers and they were forced into a life of crime and they were brave and courageous men to their country and their friends and family. The youngers family goes way back to before America became a nation and are related to one signer of the declaration of independence, a Richard Lee.
Quantrill wasn't in the CS army he was in the MSG with Hughes he wouldn't be Commissioned a Captain until the CS government passed the Partisan Ranger Act , which the repealed behind may be Lawrence and other depredations. They did not however rescend Mosbey's Commission.
@@jamesmalcolm6976 at the beginning of the movie he joined with him. The rest of the movie he is on his own basically as the last holdout of the confederacy.
@@lifemasterkris1865 That’s a line from a movie about the James Gang. It came out in 1980 and had Stacy Keach in it. Also a set of brothers who were all actors. The Quads and the other two brothers but there names elude me right now. Also it’s TH-cam and not a thesis!
Some outlaws you can sympathize with, because they began as decent people who were wronged or because of a set of principles that they held to. Quantrill did not seem to have any redeeming qualities. A petty criminal and opportunist whose only real talent seemed to be creating destruction and death.
@@JamesClark-lw6sw Hardly. Ulysses S Grant was a west point graduate, a general of the Union Army and 18th president of the United States who prosecuted the clan and fought for the civil rights of minorities such as blacks and Jews. Call me crazy, but that seems a bit different from a horse thief-turned-outlaw who just happened to be good at burning things and killing people, making him an asset to the confederacy for a short period. They may both have been butchers when it came to war, which is unfortunately what you need to be to succeed at war. And that was where any similarities between the two ended.
I agree. I've read a lot more about Quantrill and his gang. This video doesn't go into as much depth as it could. Thief, pedophile, murderer and insurrectionist. That's him.
As grant did with his failures in business prior to conflicts but rose to fame then to one of the most corrupt administration's in American political history surpassed by obummers 3rd 4 year term thru biden/Harris. Was grant a crook? Absolutely not a humble simple mind who trusted in people who took advantage of his willingness to repay merit thru governments positions. Never, never forget a president can easily be hoodwinked thru poor advisors... trumen, Ike, dubya just a few...
The question was whether the raiders were a viable and effective force for the confederacy. Viable - no. When an area is denuded of supporters, you are no longer viable. Putting people in concentration camps and removing supporters from an area has worked in wars even through today. It was a matter of time before the Union concentrated resources to clear out supporters in Missouri and the Shenandoah Valley. The technique was used in the Boer War. In the Ukraine, civilian women and children are/were removed. Effective- yes.Guerilla warfare tactics have been used from time immemorial. As Mr. Ali said: "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee".
If we forget the lessons of the past it’ll eventually repeat. Gurellia warfare can be effective we’ve seen it in modern history. The history is more grey than we realize, both sides did some messed up stuff and war no one wins. The raiders thought how other gangs refined their tactics says how effective they were.
That would have made General William Tecumseh Sherman burn down even more of the Deep South. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you catch my drift. Sherman was another one of those West Point guys you seem to ridicule. They appear to know their craft in general. No pun intended...
@@garyspence2128 Then we would have given as good as we got. However if the south had been more aggressive, and the union would have had to be more defensive then Sherman's march would not have been possible. Some of the West Point grads were good, some were not. Lee was a good general but entertained foolish notions of gentlemanly warfare unlike Quantrill. And I can assure you we will not be making that mistake again if we are even in that situation in the future.
@@garyspence2128 What there is nothing wrong with is defending your home, regardless of any other circumstance, and I am glad for every one of my blood kinsmen who has ever made an enemy pay a price.
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The legacy of the Confederate Guerrilla fighters was also captured in one of Clint Eastwood’s greatest films!
“The Outlaw Josey Wales”
Anyone who appreciated this video and history lesson should check out that Eastwood classic to see this forgotten chapter of history dramatized.
My favorite Eastwood movie. 👍
To me, The Outlaw Josey Wales is the best Western ever made, I have had many arguments, but to me, it epitomizes the genre.
@@RP-ks6ly Starts off good, then gets boring real fast.
@@John3.36Spit on your boot and forehead..
“Ride with the Devil” is another good dramatization of this story, it showed how complicated the participants of Quantrell’s raiders were
"Ride with the Devil" with Tobey McGuire is one of my favorite civil war movies. It's about the Bushwhackers in Missouri and Kansas area. It's a must see if your into civil war history.
The "Bushwhackers"...? Sounds like a heavy metal band, or a sex cult. Either way, somebody's gonna get hurt. Quantrill was a thug, a terrorist, and an apparent pedophile. Just the kind of hero that the Old South treasured back then. Like the narrator said, he was an equal opportunity outlaw. One day helping slaves to get away, the next assisting the runaway slave catchers. I guess as long as the money was green, he was on your side. Thought he was an older man. Died at 27 just like a rock star..Kansas and Missouri were really wild in those years. We can blame them for helping to set off the Civil War. Poor rascals...
American politics are weird to the rest of the world
Yeah Tobey McGuire sure is a man's man.
Here in Southern Missouri, there were no men volunteering for the Confederacy until General Sigel and his men from St Louis raided and robbed their way through the Ozarks. After that, all these counties were anti-Union. I'm 70 years old. In our Missouri history classes we viewed Quantrill, Jesse James, and Cole Younger as heroes. The Northern Armies did a lot of damage down here.
So, you think that an opportunist who was just as happy making money capturing run-away slaves as helping them escape was a “hero”?
You and I have different definitions of the word “hero”.
@@bluewater454
Yep,
just like "FATHER LINCOLN".
AS HE WAS CAMPAIGNING TO BE PRESIDENT, DEPENDING ON THE CROWD HE WAS SPEAKING TO, HE ADVOCATED FOR THE REMOVAL OF BLACK PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT.
HE ALSO STATED THAT THE BLACK AND WHITE RACES COULD IN NO WAY COEXIST, AND IF HE WAS ELECTED, HE WOULD DO SOMETHING TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM.
TALK ABOUT AN OPERTUNIST,
AMIRIGHT?
@@bluewater454 I can look back at any historical hero and find faults. It isn't so much that Quantrill was a hero, but he was the only protection the people here had against the Union forces. It's all perspective.
@@Ammo08 I get the idea of imperfect hero’s, but I couldn’t find anything in the narrative presented here to give him that status. He was a petty thief and opportunist who broke contracts, ran away from his obligations, and went with whatever side paid him at the time, whether it was helping slaves escape or capturing runaways if the bounty paid enough - and this was before he became notorious for burning, looting and murdering.
So tell me what exactly made him a hero to you - besides maybe fighting on the side of the slavers(if that makes him anything close to being a hero).
@@bluewater454 There were few if any slaves in the Southern Ozarks. He kept the marauding Federal forces away. it's not there is a hero cult for the man, but he isn't viewed as the devil incarnate.
I live in Jackson County Missouri. A slew of its country roads bestow names of those that rode with Quantril. I had the pleasure to work on the set first scene in Ride with the Devil on the Missouri River Bank in Sibley Missouri.
The movie ride with the devils touches on the confederate bushwackers fight in Missouri. Highly recommended
I see a civil war video I watch it simple and easy.
The Confederate guerrilla had no choice but to become outlaws because the Union refused to grant them amnesty after the war. Amnesty was also refused for Mosby and his men even though Mosby was tasked by Robert E Lee personally to create a guerrilla force. Mosby, a lawyer by trade, used the rules of legal privateering to conduct his operations within the recognized legal rules of war.
Very interesting, thanks for watching and commenting.
Growing up in Northern Virginia, I have always had an interest in Mosby. When I was in high school we used to go buy music from this "Head" shop in Manassas actually. In talking with the owner we found out his Great Grandfather was a raider. He said "I have a picture of Mosby and some of his men at my Great Grandfather's house". He goes in the back comes out with the picture and told us "That's him, Mosby...". Thank you for the video, someone to read up on.
@brionhannan1204 That's awesome that someone actually has a photo of Mosby on family property. He was one of the finest tactician in American history and one of the most interesting men of his time. Voted against secession, but fought because he was loyal to his home state and the constitution. He and his wife were raised on plantations, yet were abolitionist in their beliefs. I read that most of his spy network was comprised of the local slaves, and as his success grew, a percentage (10-20%?) of the local slaves rode with his raiders. He didn't give a damn about the color of a man's skin, only about his loyalty to his comrades.
why would they get amnesty? For losing?
Giantcrabz,
" Bloody Bill " Rides ! !
Thank you so very much for covering this particular piece of neglected history. I was so happy to learn of how my home state of Kentucky played a part in this story.
This man was certainly some type of character, what a story he wrote for himself.
If you want to do a forgotten history segment on Confederate bushwhackers, I would suggest you research Sam Hildebrand. He’s the only guerilla/bushwhacker to write an autobiography after the war.
The nonfiction book “ Inside War: The Guerrilla Conflict in Missouri During the Civil War” by Michael Fellman, is a thoroughly researched historical account of how the Civil War was conducted in Missouri. It was bloody murder, arson, and looting in the extreme.
Perhaps you should have mentioned the fighting that had gone on for 20 years before the Civil War started! You seemed to only state the negatives that Quantrel committed but damn little of what Kansas Redlegs did to SO many in Missouri!
Not a 1 hour documentary
They never mention what the federal gov did to the South. And still continue to do to this day with all the “the South is full of racists” BS.
Thanks for this fantastic video Colin. I’d heard of Quantrill’s Raiders & the St Laurence Massacre but that’s it. The rest of this video was new to me. BTW since you Mosby aka the Grey Ghost, will there be a show on him too because he deserves one. Man captured a Union general and 100 Union troops without even firing a shot and was one of the few to receive the Confederate Medal of Honour.
Yes, we may do one on Mosby. Thanks for the suggestion!
Mosby's use of the Appalachian was genius!
The Yankee General he planned to take prisoner to give the South a better bargaining position at war's end was none ther than Ulysses S Grant. After the war, he personally released Mosby from prison and commuted his death sentence; they became close friends and Mosby even campaigned in VA, helping Grant win the Presidential election
Another point about Mosby is he was friend of the Pattons and spent time with a young George S. Patton and told him stories about the war.
Mosby later served in the US Customs House in China, under President Grant. I'm local to where Mosby later lived and practiced law.
Great video Mr. Heaton, as usual thank you for posting it.
Thanks for watching!
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL You're welcome!!
Jesse James is buried just up the road from me, my great grandmother would tell us about her father riding with Quantrill and helping burn down Lawrence.
So then that would mean you live in Kearney MO?
Long live the memory of quantrills raiders!a southern hero!
They have tried to wipe them of the history books
@@iviekicklighte673 I love it when people say that Missouri wasn't part of the confederacy!lmao people are simple!
Was your great grandmother proud of what her husband did?
I watched your latest installment of “Forgotten History” with great interest. I found it to be typically well done and very thorough.
In the course of my own genealogical research I discovered that my 2d great grandfather, Lewis Washington Bailey and his brother, Joseph Marion Bailey were CSA officers.
My uncle Joe Bailey wrote his memoir of his time as a Confederate soldier but more specifically his time as a Confederate guerrilla. In the years after the Civil War Joe would recount his stories to his grandchildren living in Austin, Texas. At their urging he dictated his memories and they were passed down to his grandchildren and succeeding generations. When I met a previously unknown cousin of mine she placed a copy of his fascinating type written memoir in my hands. A few years later I discovered that a historian at Hill College in Hillsboro, Texas had annotated and published those memoirs entitled “Confederate Guerrilla: The Civil War Memoir of Joseph M. Bailey.”
In his memoir Uncle Joe discusses the perspective that he and his family had on the bourgeoning conflict. His family, whose home was in Ft. Smith, Arkansas (very near Pea Ridge) considered slavery to be a sin but they loved their home and fought to defend it against the deprivations of the Union Army.
While Uncle Joe made no mention of Quantrill he did participate in the Battle of Pea Ridge, the siege of Port Hudson, his capture by Union forces, his time in a Union POW camp, his escape and his journey on foot back up the Mississippi River to his family’s home in Ft. Smith. I have always felt that his memoir read like that wonderful movie starring Jude Law and Nicole Kidman “On Cold Mountain.”
I highly recommend Uncle Joe’s book to anyone interested in a first person account of the war and underlying perspectives on that terrible conflict.
Sounds like a great read, thanks.
Gen. Morgan was much the same, he ended up in Ohio Pen. and escaped a few months later. His raids into Kentucy on the RR's is interesting. His great raid into Indiana and Ohio is still the talk of some folks here in the Buckeye state. For years I portrayed Gen. Morgan and much of the Love and Hate is still there. Enjoyed the vid. Thanks
After the war Morgan became friends with Grant. He served respectfully in the US Government. He was a well known for reconciliation. He definitely did NOT buy into the “lost cause” fake history so many people fall for. I really respect Morgan. He fought hard for his state with distinction but moved forward post war.
@@timatkn No... Mogan Died in Greenville Tenn. They shot him full of holes and dragged his body about town till the yankee chaplain demanded they stop their game. When this happened, they cut parts of his clothes off as keep sakes. He was buried in Hollywood cem. but moved to Lexington Ky in 68. It's noted that the yankees who were fighting for the N. that their wives and girlfriends would write letters asking them if John Morgan was as handsome as they say he is.. When he turned himself in after the great raid, the train took him to Columbus, Ohio where ladies would crowd the streets just to see him. As for him and Grant getting along.. Never and Not likely. He was one of the first to fly the 1st National Confederate flag above his business in Lexington. He knew that going to war with the N. would be a very close shave. He gave his all for the South and died for it. I'm not really sure where you get your info at, you may want to read Basil W. Dukes book about Gen. Morgan, Basil was his brother=in-law. Also a great book is from James Ramage, he has No love for Morgan, but he does give a great acout of the mans life. Peace..
Excellent documentary!!!! Thank you very much!!!!!
Thank You for covering another interesting topic Colin. The efforts of everyone at Forgotten History is appreciated. Best Wishes to everyone.
"depopulated"?.....right.
Awesome Content, Colin!
Appreciate it!
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Yep, great stuff as always, C. Cheers
Colin - another super good Forgotten History lesson! Thank you!!
Thanks for listening
and watching!! The visuals help a lot to make the history real !!!
Great vid Colin, as a kid it never failed to fascinate me when The Outlaw Josey Wales came on.
Hey, heres a show idea, maybe youve covered it already, but after the last Indian uprising in Minnesota, Iowa, and the Dakotas Colonel Sibley was tasked to take care of the problem.
He formed up the 7th Minnesota Volunteer Infantry and well, theres a whole lot more to the story. My GGG Grandfather was there that day, a poor German farmer who had been in country all of 10 or 12 years. Crazy family story I never knew about until maybe a decade ago.
There's no comparison between Quantrill and Mosby. Mosby was sanctioned as a Partisan Ranger, and never burned or looted for "fun". Only took ownership of Federal property, not private property. Mosby later became a US Customs House official in China, under President Grant.
Agreed, Mosby was a real soldier
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL fuck that!quantrills raiders did what the south wouldn't and is the reason the south lost!you can't beat an opponent who has no honor no rules and no authority to answer to!just ask sherman!long live the memory of all southern soldiers!recognized or otherwise!let's hear it for jessee and frank James!let's hear it for holt collier!let's hear it for Nathan bedford forest!let's hear it for anyone who took up arms against a tyrannical government that benefited from the practice they vilified the south for practicing legally until the 13th amendment!let's hear it for anyone who fought to dissolve an involuntary union!by a tyrant!fuck lincoln!
Thank you, you are 100% correct. Mosby was a solider, Quantrill was a thief and murderer along with the James and Younger brothers.
As a kid in mid 50s "the Grey Ghost" was one of the best shows on T.V. we Virginia Boys worshiped him.
every episode is always very well done love this channel
John S. Mosby "Grey Ghost" would make a good video for your channel.
Great suggestion. We will consider
Mosby was an "irregular" but obeyed the rules of war. At one time a Union general ordered that 5 prisoners from Mosby's command be hung. Mosby hung the next 5 officers his men had captured and that was the end of that.
BTW: Mosby was close to an abolitionist before the war. After the war, he became a Good Republican.
@@GilmerJohn Mosby was an interesting person.
And this is the first time I'm hearing of this man. Thank you for this excellent treatment of Quantrill. He comes across as an opportunist, thief and killer. A perfect politician!
A pedophile as well
I am retired Army born in WV and went to college to teach History, begin with the Generals first and then move on to the Colonels , and the irregular Commanders. Shelby Foote is a good place to start!
a total psychopath .
Awesome work Colin I enjoyed it I live in Ohio where Morgan's Raiders went through maybe you could do one about them not many people know they were Raiders too
Thanks for the suggestion. We will consider
Hollywood mentions Quantrill in many old western films he was a conflicted individual and in those times it’s understandable.
It’s said that the Civil War actually started in Kansas known then as Bloody Kansas and spilled over into the surrounding states when the military hostilities began and were very personal towards everyone involved
Actually, it started in South Carolina where the first shot was fired by the Confederates, bless their hearts. And to this day the north is trying to force their nonsense on the south. Ain't gonna happen. You may need tough guy Joe and his F14's. If you disagree with this. come on down and FAAFO.
louisiana was the birthplace of the civil war,were they had the largest population of freed slaves,but the northern aggression wont tell you that
@@hebrewhammer5989 they also won't tell you that the confederacy was made up of all types of people.including black slave owners!
Very informative mini doc, thank you Prof. Heaton!
If you haven’t already, I suggest doing a video on Cassius M Clay, who was a hardcore abolitionist and 2nd amendment guy who was a war hero of the Mexican-American War and Lincoln had considered to make him be his VP in 1860. The Fat Electrician did an awesome video on him and I think you could definitely expand on Clay.
I think they need to play some documentaries in congress for congress. Show Schumer, swallelwell, Pelosi, McConnell...."MCCA" MAKE CONGRESS CASSIUS AGAIN"
Please do a video on my favorite cavalry officer…the Gray Ghost, Captain John S. Mosby !?
He was quite a character…. Especially his supposed (waking up) by smacking the backside of a Union General or Colonel. 😂
Mosby coming
Again, nicely done sir! Love this channel!
The Civil War content is great! Thank you Forgotten History!
Do you have one on "The Pig War." The South even fought over a pig.
The Civil War was absolutely horrible.
No, great suggestion. We will look that up
Yes,the civil war was horrible,650,000 soldiers died and that's not including the civilian casualties,soldiers wounded severely ( where they lost limbs and couldn't work ) then a long reconstruction period for the south.
@@kerry-j4m Good comment. Some of the "wounded" died after the war was over due to medical complications and contracting diseases from the war.
@@user-tp1bi6of3v AGREED.And thanks for the compliment,amigo.
The pig war happened in Oregon which ain’t exactly The South
Great video, Colin! Thank you!
My pleasure!
If you tell the story of Quantrill’s without talking about the brutal treatment of civilians in Missouri by the Union Army and the Jayhawkers throughout the war, you are not telling the whole story. This film does mention the prison that relatives of the raiders were put into collapsed, but should mention the evidence that it collapsed because the building was intentionally weakened by the soldiers guarding it. That forms the context for how Quantrill’s raiders behaved themselves.
We could not corroborate that assertion, and there have been many allegations.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL You could corroborate the fact that there was a general order from the Union Army which ordered all the people out of several counties of Missouri, with no provision for how they would feed or shelter themselves as a result of this displacement. Harry Truman was named for an uncle who was tortured by Jayhawkers. His mother told him to check the silver marks on the utensils in the white house to see if any of the silverware was their family's stolen silverware by the Union Army. Jesse James' stepfather was tortured by union soldiers, and was brain damaged for the rest of his life. These are the kinds of things that might inspire people to retaliate in similar ways.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL The mere fact that innocent women and children were put into prison by the Union Army constitutes war crimes. The fact that many ended up dead or maimed as a result of their imprisonment adds to the nature of the war crimes. The British treated American civilians far better than the Union Army did.
Chill out dude, there's only so much one can put in a video that's less than 20min long.
@Sevenlilies He doesn’t need to chill out. His comments succinctly contextualize the guerrilla’s motivations; his comments are pin-worthy.
Thank you for your service sir
Much appreciated
Many of Quantrill's Raiders settle around Saint Joseph Mo. When I was a boy, I grew up visiting with a few of their grandchildren who were old then, that was back in the 1960,70s, it was fun to hear their firsthand stories about their grandparents. Saint Joe sided with the Confederates, as did many in my own family.
St. Joseph, MO is were Jesse James was shot.
@@michaelhart6318 Yes, Jesse had friends there. At that time St Jo. was bigger than Kansas City. so was Atchison Kansas.
Excellent work as always.. 👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Pleaae do a video on the Oyster Wars between Delaware and Virginia. One about Vermont's war of independence from New York would be pretty interesting too.
Outlaw joy Wales, easy to find, leaves a trail of dead men.
Very cool, thank you Dr. Heaton !!!
Thanks for listening
Great video, would love to hear more about Bloody Bill, the James brothers anyone else of note.
James brothers episode coming soon. Thanks for watching
The Gray Ghost…..very effective at what he did.
I'm a native of Dover. The stories of Quantrill growing up tell a lot about how he lived after he left. He did a lot of bad things as a child.
So did Yankee General William Tecumseh Sherman the Terrorist!
So the "Cherokee Nation" sided with the Confederates, I didn't know that. Interesting, thanks for teaching this old dog something new. 👍
btw Cherokee Chief /Brig. Gen. Stand Watie surrendered as the last CSA General
@@Sturminfantrist, you "stole my thunder" Sir! I was going to tell him about that!!!
Long live the memory of the confederate warriors holt collier,the james Brothers and all the unsung confederate soldiers!down with the union up with the cross!
The first Native American general was General Stand Watie of the CSA Cherokee Braves. The first Hispanic American general was General Santos Benavides of the Confederados from South Texas.
1. kevinbarrow5396 - The South got less than it deserved. And it deserved a lot. Try being a poor Southern farmer sometime living on the edge while the plantation owners made all the political decisions and lived in the big house.
2. The Five Nations fought on both sides. The Cherokee, Choctaw and Creek Indians had a number of men who owned slaves and ran medium sized plantations in the land that was seized from them. They took their slaves with them to the Indian Territory. They sided with Richmond. The traditionalists among the Creek, Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Seminoles supported the Union. The Seminoles especially, given that they were driven off their lands because they gave refuge to runaway slaves. During the first winter of the war, the Traditionalists had been driven into Kansas and suffered horribly. The Union then drove the Confederates out of southern Missouri and northern Arkansas and back into Texas, where they suffered from a lack of supplies promised by the Confederacy.
3. One of the first "Colored" regiments, the 1st Kansas Volunteer Rgt (Colored) was raised and fought from the late 1862. They formed the center of the Union line at the Battle of Honey Springs driving off six mounted and dismounted attacks by Confederate Cherokees and Texas Rangers. They were recruited from runaway slaves from Missouri, Arkansas and Texas.
I grew up in MOSBYs area of operations. In Fairfax the house that Mosby captured the general and got away with horses, mules ect.
Maybe do a show on Mosby the grey ghost. Because of mosby Washington removed all planks on the bridges.
John Mosby is coming.
Great video! Very interesting!
Thank you!
Those clips where they are dressed up as dandys and look like the 3 musketeers are great.
Thanks for watching.
Funny that you mention Pea Ridge when I went there during the last week.
Sunnyvale, CA. City Library has a Civil War 'Encyclopedia' which lists 'Raider Weldon' as one of Quantrill's Captains. I was startled/surprised, because my family hails from Missouri and our family name is Weldon.
You have the best history channel!! Thank you for working so hard to put together such great information!
Thank you for the support!
Very interesting. I'm hooked.
My 2 great granduncle "Guerilla" Tom Henry ran with Quantrill and the James boys. Last heard of him around 1900 as a starter at the race track in Paducah, KY with Frank James. I think my grandmother Vick ended up with his notched pistol.
Just found your channel and I like it. Also I am writing a Novel about the Civil War.
Thank you for the very thorough history lesson.
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed.
One thing I think was left out is Quantrill was a big fan of scalping his enemies after he killed them.
That was Bloody Bill Anderson.
Oh you’re right, my bad
I believe Captain Bill Anderson’s as you stated his mysterious second in command was Lieutenant Archie Clements.
Quantrell sounds like an opportunist whose only cause was himself. Having said that I suspect that most of the men under him did have a cause, but whether that was about slavery or simply fighting for their family and farms may never be known.
Reminds me of some of the stories about the 30 years war in Europe about 250 years earlier where lots of opportunists fought on both sides at various points.
Yeah it's a real head scratcher... im sure his men (99% of whom didn't own slaves) were totally "fighting for slavery"... cause that's what the government taught me in public school! "dAh uNiOn fOuGhT tO fReE dA sLaVeS sO dEy wAs dA gOoD gUyS!"
It was never really about slavery it was about resisting Anglo-European imperialism
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I am somehow distantly related to Bloody Bill Anderson.
My mother's maiden name was Anderson. Her family were involved in the Johnson County Wars.
According to my understanding. Jesse and Frank James. Stayed in the house that my great, great Grandfather Anderson lived in. Southeast of La Tour Missouri. For a week and kept their horses in the barn on the property.
While enroute to Osceola Missouri to hook up with Cole Younger and his gang.
My great, great Grandfather Anderson was a Baptist and a Mason. Evidently the James Boys were too.
I was born in Houston Texas. My parents are both from Missouri. Mom was born on a farm outside Garden City Missouri and dad was born and raised in Lincoln Missouri.
My Missouri roots run deep.
My Great Great Uncle was a Methodist Minister, a prominent member of the Masons and highly regarded for his honesty an integrity. He and his family had moved from Tennessee to Missouri well before the Civil War. Tragically, Jayhawkers killed him while he was sleeping in his own bed. As a result, my Great Great Grandfather joined the Confederate 8th Missouri. In one of the battles he was in his Brother-In-Law, a Union Soldier from Missouri, was killed. It tore the family apart. After the war he and his family tried to return to Missouri, but his wife's family, my Great Great Grandmother's family, shunned them. As a result they moved to Texas. I'm a Texan.
I’d love to hear your take on the Battle of the Attu Islands.
1:07 That dude rules.
You guys ever do one on Eliot Ness? Crazy time in our history, and I heard (don't know) he actually ended up a drunkard.
Good idea.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Whether you do or not, I appreciate you responding. Have a good night.
My family went through this in Missouri and Texas in the War. My Mother’s family would let the James Boys hide out at their place in North Texas at times when it was too hot for them in Missouri
Sure she did
@@mikeperry7335 It’s true . My cousins in Missouri were the Youngers
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Another great true old west story! Keep them coming!👍
Everyone loves the westerns we're putting out so we're gonna keep them coming, thanks for watching.
Hero's are never forgotten.
A close pard gave me a book about a man called jack hinson the famous 3 rivers southern sniper. His political standing was neutral until his sons were executed one Sunday morning while hunting by zealot union misfits looking for bushwackers. innocents sometimes get caught up in the mess. But when those misfits decapitated the 2 boys and stuck their heads on the entrance posts walk way did jack finally chose sides. His custom smithed cap & ball rifle had up to 101 notches on buttstock.
"You young`ns would never survive in the old days"
*Stops to build a TOWN
I`ve been 6 months waiting for approval on a permit I had to pay upfront to build a shed on land I already paid for... I`d like to see the people in the old days survive now, is more like it.
Better than the Stonewall Brigade?? I'm thinking no.
Im in the center of the guerilla areas right now. Mosby's Confederacy and the McNeill's Partisan Rangers. Captains John and, later, Jessie McNeill were my great-great-great grand uncle and great-great grand uncle. Jessie took over command after his father was gravelly wounded at Meems Bottom. The sword Jessie captured from Gen. Crook is still in his granddaughter's family.
Please do an episode on General Sterling Price. My middle name is Price and my ancestors come from Joplin/Springfield, Missouri. Thanks!
Possibly
Lawrence was in retaliation for the Missouri women who were killed when the prison they were held in collapsed.
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Moral of the story....The "United States" went to utter shit after the War of Northern Aggression.
Legit and just like Robert E Lee etc said would happen
Except for that pesky slave issue and the fact that king cotton fired first. Neo confederate history revisionists are so boring. The south today would disagree with the south of 1859
It'd have been better if the result were different.
The south will rise again, We always knew it would we Just had to wait this long to do it. But it's not the same South as it was , today's South is white and black and latino... and we are all proud to be from the South and we'll fight together against any invader. The south will not lose again
Indeed!
The Vatican backed the Confederacy and had diplomatic relations. The Vatican also instigated race riots in New York between Irish Catholic immigrants and Blacks by saying that the Blacks were stealing the jobs of the Union soldiers and that too many Catholics were taking the place of wealthy Americans through payments to do so in the draft. Most of the Confederate war heroes were Catholic. Only 10% of the Confederate population owned slaves. Most of the Confederacy was relatively poor and living a serfdom like existence. They were a bit like the French peasants who fought for the royalists during the French Revolution.
The Jesuit's was a instigators. All wars are bankers wars.
Woah, it's almost like nothing has changed since then!
there were also jewish confederates of german origin, some major plantation owners, some of whom had multiple sons who fought valiantly for the south. The Union is the only army to ever burn down a jewish synagogue on us soil
@@doctorhayo7976 I knew that there were Jewish confederates. I didn’t know that the Union Army burned down a synagogue!
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Have multiple ancestors that fought along side Bloody Bill Anderson!
Sherman said it best,"War is all hell".
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I am a cousin to the youngers and james brothers and they were forced into a life of crime and they were brave and courageous men to their country and their friends and family. The youngers family goes way back to before America became a nation and are related to one signer of the declaration of independence, a Richard Lee.
Thank you! The Youngers and James' are also my Cousins, but I did not know about Richard Lee.
A good movie about this topic is the Clint Eastwood movie The Outlaw Josey Wells. Wells was a bushwaker.
Alot of the scenes in this are from an awsome movie called "ride with the devil" it's an absolute must see
Quantrill wasn't in the CS army he was in the MSG with Hughes he wouldn't be Commissioned a Captain until the CS government passed the Partisan Ranger Act , which the repealed behind may be Lawrence and other depredations. They did not however rescend Mosbey's Commission.
Don’t you besmirch name of Capt. Quantrill or Rooster Cogburn will be all over you
@@hydra8845 wait a minute I didn't serve under Kirby Smith and my name ain't LeBeouf. 😂
I would love for you to explain the battle of cuito cuanavale..please..
Thanks for watching. Maybe
Bushwhacker John Kirkland and his band from Monroe County, Tennessee warrant your attention.
Opening image of the oldest selfie & RoyBeanCourtBldg.
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Hey Colin, is this who Clint Eastwood based his movie ‘The Outlaw Josey Wales’ on?
Yes
The border war aspect but Josey Wales had joined up with Bloody Bill Anderson,
@@jamesmalcolm6976 at the beginning of the movie he joined with him. The rest of the movie he is on his own basically as the last holdout of the confederacy.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL that’s awesome. One of my favorite movies
@@WSW0424 yeah after Bloody Bill was killed and Fletcher got the rest to surrender. Quantrill was mentioned by ferry operator
I would have rode with The Stars and Bars!
*ridden
@@lifemasterkris1865 That’s a line from a movie about the James Gang. It came out in 1980 and had Stacy Keach in it. Also a set of brothers who were all actors. The Quads and the other two brothers but there names elude me right now. Also it’s TH-cam and not a thesis!
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"The Longriders"
@@KevinSmith-yh6tl YES!!
Some outlaws you can sympathize with, because they began as decent people who were wronged or because of a set of principles that they held to. Quantrill did not seem to have any redeeming qualities. A petty criminal and opportunist whose only real talent seemed to be creating destruction and death.
You could say the SAME thing about Union Generals Like Grant and Sherman . Pretty much just Butchers who fought for the North
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Hardly. Ulysses S Grant was a west point graduate, a general of the Union Army and 18th president of the United States who prosecuted the clan and fought for the civil rights of minorities such as blacks and Jews.
Call me crazy, but that seems a bit different from a horse thief-turned-outlaw who just happened to be good at burning things and killing people, making him an asset to the confederacy for a short period. They may both have been butchers when it came to war, which is unfortunately what you need to be to succeed at war. And that was where any similarities between the two ended.
Pretty much like the same Democrats today huh
@@healdiseasenow Pretty much.
The only thing that seems to have changed with the Democrat party is where they put the plantations.
I agree. I've read a lot more about Quantrill and his gang. This video doesn't go into as much depth as it could.
Thief, pedophile, murderer and insurrectionist. That's him.
One thing can not be denied. Quantrill started his adult life as a petty thief and went down hill from there!
As grant did with his failures in business prior to conflicts but rose to fame then to one of the most corrupt administration's in American political history surpassed by obummers 3rd 4 year term thru biden/Harris.
Was grant a crook? Absolutely not a humble simple mind who trusted in people who took advantage of his willingness to repay merit thru governments positions. Never, never forget a president can easily be hoodwinked thru poor advisors... trumen, Ike, dubya just a few...
One of the people that married into are family was Jesse Edward’s from Missouri and part of Quantrills…
The question was whether the raiders were a viable and effective force for the confederacy.
Viable - no. When an area is denuded of supporters, you are no longer viable. Putting people in concentration camps and removing supporters from an area has worked in wars even through today. It was a matter of time before the Union concentrated resources to clear out supporters in Missouri and the Shenandoah Valley. The technique was used in the Boer War. In the Ukraine, civilian women and children are/were removed.
Effective- yes.Guerilla warfare tactics have been used from time immemorial. As Mr. Ali said: "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee".
Yes, butterfly collar is back! Any chance of a paisley variation?
Possibly
If we forget the lessons of the past it’ll eventually repeat. Gurellia warfare can be effective we’ve seen it in modern history. The history is more grey than we realize, both sides did some messed up stuff and war no one wins.
The raiders thought how other gangs refined their tactics says how effective they were.
Knights Of The Golden Circle ties
Saw this show title and thought " oh shit"....lol
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History is very complicated to say the least.
The image of his father is the first selfie photo? 1:42... on Google shows name as Robert Cornelius.
Probably an additional middle family name
Quantrill fought the way that Lee should have fought!
The last flash of the Stars & Bars were Missourians crossing the Rio Grande.
Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Quantrill should have been in command instead of "West Pointers". Then, the South would have won!!!
That would have made General William Tecumseh Sherman burn down even more of the Deep South. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you catch my drift. Sherman was another one of those West Point guys you seem to ridicule. They appear to know their craft in general. No pun intended...
@@garyspence2128 Then we would have given as good as we got. However if the south had been more aggressive, and the union would have had to be more defensive then Sherman's march would not have been possible. Some of the West Point grads were good, some were not. Lee was a good general but entertained foolish notions of gentlemanly warfare unlike Quantrill. And I can assure you we will not be making that mistake again if we are even in that situation in the future.
@@garyspence2128 What there is nothing wrong with is defending your home, regardless of any other circumstance, and I am glad for every one of my blood kinsmen who has ever made an enemy pay a price.
A confederate raider was Patton’s mentor
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