Another great mini doc Prof. Heaton! I’ve got to relate a family story. Our cousin’s great grandfather was a whiskey peddler in Missouri in the 1870’s. One day while making his rounds with a mule driven wagon, a group of heavily armed riders came out of the woods and stopped the wagon. One rider did all the talking, and said in a respectful tone, “We need whiskey old man”. Several bottles were passed to the riders, then the head rider tossed a bag of silver dollars worth way more than the whiskey to the peddler. It was Jesse James. Several of those silver dollars have been family heirlooms ever since.
@@RIVALContentJammerz Hay, they were still murderers. What's the difference between them and the thugs in the inner city's. Just a different time and there reasons were flawed just as much.
My Father told when I was younger. He knew his great grandmother Minnie. She told him when she was a about 4 or 5 she and her family traveled by horse and wagon from Minnesota to Michigan, where my Dad is from. It's crazy to think before she past she saw Neil and Buzz walk on the moon. Anyway, my Great great grandmother told my Father when they were on there way to Michigan they stopped in Northfield. Her Father took the horses to be fed and watered. Her Mother took her into general good store, since they needed more provisions for their journey. While in the store they started hearing gun shots and yelling. The owner of the store took my Great great grandmother and her mother, put them under a table and, covered it. The man told them to stay put he would be right back. He came back, a few moments later, with his shotgun, and protected my grandmother. She said he saw the man whispered into her mothers ear and her face turned white as a ghost. After the shooting my grandmother asked her what happened. She said an evil man name Jesse James and his band of misfits tried robbing the bank next door. They stayed for a couple of days in town before they left. They wanted to make sure the gang was well out of the area. It's incredible how close my family was to a major part of American history.
Thank you for explaining as a historic authority how reconstruction was not a particularly good thing for the south, and how it impacted families of all backgrounds with the unfortunate turning by many to crime. Added: Interesting the amount of land covered in the 19th century. In the 21st century walking house to street is work.
Im from Buckner Missouri (Across the river from Kearney and the James farm) grew up with 15 James all Cousins. They have a big family. One day at our local bar one of the James showed me a pic of an old looked to be converted pocket dragoon in .36 said it was from a raid Jesse did. Family has alot of relics and memorabilia
As a lifelong Minnesota resident, I have always taken great interest in the James Gang. I remember reading in the paper once that during the fire at the Stillwater state prison, that the warden gave the shotgun to Cole Younger, as he knew nobody would mess with him. Great story keep the videos coming!
Really appreciate this. My grandmother from White County Arkansas loved telling me and my brother that we were related to the Younger family but never elaborated. She died in 1987, and I've never researched her claims. This video reminded me of my purported ancestors, and I will now start learning if and how I'm related to the Younger family. Thank you for a very informative presentation.
Awesome Content! I'm a direct descendant of 'The Loomis gang', and with the help of my grandmother [genealogist / historian] We were also able to track down two other families we're from - That 100% dealt w/ and rode w/ the James boys. Love this stuff!
My husband was shocked when I told him he had a James connection through the Hite family. More shocked to learn that at Fort Campbell he had been right next door to Wood Hite's father's property in Kentucky.
Frank and Jesse were with Anderson at Centralia and through out the Price Raid on Missouri. Quantrill had been ousted as leader of the band in Sherman/Denton Texas in late 63 early 64 the band fragmented into two semi separate bands under Georgia Todd and Bill Anderson. John Newman Edwards had been J.O. Shelby's Adjutant during the war and took up his former profession as a news paper man 15:05 it is believed by some to have actually polished and or written some if not most of Jesse's correspondence for publication..
Entertaining and educational, as always. Thanks for such a detailed video…your stories are so good I’m grateful for a longer video!! Thank you again, sir. Thanks to the whole team ❤️🤙🏻
Great video as always. I’m sure you know the story of Jesse being a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle and how the James Gang hid confederate gold. Treasure hunters searching for it to this day. Inspiration for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
You did a lot of work. Keeping track of these guys was extensive; they were robbing and shooting all the way east to W Va, back to western Mo, especially KC area, then back to KY, AL, TN, then Iowa, then Minnesota. That's some active, dedicated outlaws there, for sure. Thanks for covering the Centralia, MO massacre by Bloody Bill, of which Frank and Jesse took part. Didn't realize Jesse killed that Union major. The Younger brothers were also interesting. You telling the story of Cole Younger and Frank James retiring after being pardoned to a traveling Wild West Show reminds me of the scene in the 2nd True Grit, where an older Mattie Ross finds out that Rooster Cogburn had died, and she travels to retrieve Cogburn's body. In this scene she meets Frank James and Cole Younger. She is polite to Younger, but spits at Frank James and calls him "scum." Great scene. Finally, I found it interesting that you looked up the tombstones of both Frank and Jesse. Frank's headstone has him identified as Alexander F. James, as if to hide the fact that this is Frank James. Jesse's on the other hand....He was assassinated. Says so right there on the stone....must be true! I enjoyed this one!
The James Brothers were seen as Heros where I grew up in St Jo MO. and, many claimed that they were related to Jesse. :) We saw the James brothers as Robin Hoods, 🙂
Lots of people have a Jesse James story but having a date and place (1874 in Hot Springs and Malvern, Arkansas) gives me something to go on concerning him having contact with some of my ancestors.
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Heres an excerpt from my hometown of Boonville, MO about the old jail. "The most famous of the many prisoners associated with the Jail was Frank James, brother of Jesse. On April 24th, 1884, James was brought to the Cooper County Jail by Sheriff John Rogers to answer a warrant for his arrest for a train robbery that took place in 1876. Sympathetic citizens of Boonville raised his bond in a matter of hours. The case was later dismissed for lack of evidence."
“I have been in Ohio, Pennsylvania and other states we learned to hate because they gave birth to the federal troops we hated so well, and their people have treated me like a man,” Frank told the war-scarred veterans. “But here in Missouri, among my own people, I am unhonored and unsung, then why should I not turn to the belief of the people who have, in my declining years, proved my friends?” - excerpt from a speech Frank James gave at the August 1904 reunion of Quantrill’s men in Independence, Missouri, explaining why he later settled with his family in Oklahoma.
Im from Malvern Arkansas. It was my grandfather Jesse got the watch from on the stage between Malvern and Hot Springs. He served in the 1st South Carolina out of Lexington. Had an impeccable record. Moved our family to the backwoods of Arkansas because of reconstruction. To live in peace. He was not angry about the watch as my family tells it. Also, Zee was not a cousin to Jesse by blood. But by marriage. She was the niece of Dr. Samuel. I would hope this gets corrected. The James brothers had to find wives who could live with them lock and step considering they could not get a pardon and were hunted before they took to night riding. I love America. I love the South even more. Its my home and my people. All the people of the South.
4:26 - U. S. Army soldiers traveling in the 1860's who were not allowed to be armed became victims of an attack. Whether it was by enemy soldiers or merely criminals, either way something suggests to me that this was inexcusable. Meanwhile, in the 20th and 21st Centuries ...
This is a very interesting video and helps draw a line between reality and fiction. Have you heard the song "Jesse James" by Brazzaville? I heard it live when Brazzaville came to Tel Aviv. They're an American band.
In Australia we really only had the famous Ned Kelly. Whereas i love the history of the Old West and basically the life of the early American history until around the beginning of World War ll.
I enjoy watching your episodes but as a Jesse Woodson James researcher and great great grandson, I will have to skip this one because Jesse Woodson James was not Charlie Bigelow Samuel who Jesse Woodson James killed and is buried in the Mount Olivet Cemetery. Jesse Woodson James died at the age of 103 as J Frank Dalton.
That is a lie. If you read Cole Youngers book, he stated the Cole and Jesse had an argument and Jesse and Frank never went to Northfield, and were never there. Why do they keep saying this?
That's complete bullshit - Hero of what ? He was a murderer - his actions caused the deaths of many innocent people - there's nothing heroic about causing a train to derail and killing a little girl - He used a slimy Yankee newspaper writer to propagandize his story - How heroic is that - it's not
I did some online search and found out that Frank and Jesse's dad died after getting to California of cholera however it might not be true he might have died en route.
My late wife and I visited Northfield, Mn, bac😂k in the 90's during The Defeat of Jesse James Days. This is a annual festival weekend held in Northfield. Actors portray the attempted robbery of the bank there.
Shocking ending. Blood is thicker than water. After all the rampaging and murdering, his father defended his son to the end. Bizarre. And after all those $hundreds of $thousands stolen in the 1800s and his wife still died penniless and destitute? Wow! What a tragic life beginning to end 🤯🤯
$60,000, in the 1870s? I dont believe that, when gold was $20 an oz and people worked all month for $20, a bunk and meals? That would be 7 million $ or more in today's money. I doubt that all of the banks in the state had that much money back then.
😅Seems in 1871 these activities could have burned Chicago many unusual fires took place around the same timen. The tenth anniversary of the beginning of the Civil War. Certainly some factor contributes to the South believing it was a great Confederacy victory. Really good research and presentation. Thanks for educating us.
Wood & Clarence Hite were 1st cousins to Frank & Jessie James & my great uncles..There " hideout" in Nashville was at the corner of Brick Church Pk & Old Hickory Blvd & is a national historic site ( bullet holes & all) which still stands today..No lawmen had the guts to try & arrest them so they stayed in Nashville off & on between robberies. Robert Ford murdered Jessie James & my uncle Wood & was eventually murdered himself as depicted in the Brad Pitt movie ( the cowardly deeds of Robert Ford) wich also depicts my great, great grandfather..A proud heritage it is..LOL.
Seems a lot of Confederate soldiers were treated so badly they ended up turning to crime because they had little choice. Even though many tried to do the right thing, farming and whatever, but its like they were branded as bad and the north wouldn't allow them to forget the war and get on with life. I need to learn more about US history ,
Them men played for keeps! Talk about an outdoor life! We got trucks parked, with V8's, if one is lucky. Those men, had saddled horses, ready to go. Love the real pictures of the players. No game, however!
if the robbers actually DID get such huge amounts of money, they were some stupid, GREEDY bastards. Why keep doing such dangerous crap when you're a millionaire? Cause that's what they would have been, easily, in today's money.
Northfield Minnesota shows the reality. For they rode North. They thought it would be an easy score. Small bank. Rural town. Forgetting that the Sioux uprising was only a few years earlier. Citizens were familiar with guns. The James Gang and several others. Split up into 3 groups...but all met at the Bank. However...they were wearing there White Duster's riding fancy horses. They were noticed. They thought Strong Arm tactics would work. Experienced gun men. They would Dominate the situation. However....the Bank manager refused to open the safe. Bank's were not insured back then. Jesse shot him in cold blood. They only got $27. The shot was heard by the gun men outside and at the hardware store next to the Bank. The Store owner shouted out. "Arm yourselves...there robbing the Bank". Suddenly.....the whole town started shooting at the Bank and it's robber's. A survivor told the story. He and a few others went to Stillwater prison. A few other's died of lead poisoning. Frank and Jesse ran away! They never recovered. They escaped back to Missouri but by now they had lost there charm. They were cold blooded Killers. They shot one settler during the robbery......he didn't speak a word of English. A Swede immigrant. He had froze in the street not knowing what to do. Frank Miller shot him in the head. He died 3 days later. And became the foundation of a Church. The shoot out is re inacted every year. Which is amazing in liberal Minnesota. This Northfield Raid was National News. And widely celebrated. The Town fought back! They were not Robin Hoods.
Reading jj last rebel of the civil war now what do you think about the two jj that where family.one from kentucky one from missouri.if you look at the pivtures outthere one looks older then the other one.ones a col in the kgc and the other was a decoy i believe ive read alot about them everyone says there related j frank dalton was decoy i believe and died in 1950 as jacob b gerltin missouri from what the family sayes.
The problem with the period between 1865 and 1885 is that it's really distorted. The Wild West was not that wild, and there was not a lot of crime. The people who settled in the West a lot of them were veterans of the Civil War, a hard and bloody conflict. They were not going to put up with crap. What we know of the period comes from Dime novels, yellow journalism, Wild West shows, and the movies. All of it is mostly made up. Life was hard, and people mostly worked hard for little reward. Farming was hard work, but before mechanization, it still is. Jesse James and his gang were just criminals, nothing more. Yet, due to Americans' fascination with the criminal world, they became larger than life in their time. Never mind, what a god-awful way to live. Americans' fascination with crime and criminals lives on in our movies and TV. Just look at the HBO Crime Drama/Comedy The Sopranos, for example, or Goodfellas, the Elephant in the Room, and The Godfather. The hard part is finding the historical truth to what when on in that period of our history. The West became America's heroic Myth. Once again Dr. Heaton, you bring clarity to what is the most convoluted 20 years in our history.
NPR has a lot of problems, they slant their history to fit their Marxist anti-American progressive narrative, which is why they have never been a credible news source
My cousin has a picture of Jesse James from 1911 or so with my Grandfather it appears to be real . I have told her it may be worth a lot she refuses to anyone but family see it . They are in a cave with a fire somewhere in Oklahoma .
So, I been wondering, who forgot all this history anyway? Joe Biden? But, seriously, You are doing a wonderful job with your history channel. Thanks for another well done videos.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Unfortunately that's so true. The phrase "Every schoolboy knows..." is laughable now. Most schoolboys today don't even know if they are boys or girls!
Ño civil war no James/Younger gang. There was no magnanimity and no" Marshall Plan" for the post bellum former Confederate States after the civil war .It took a century for those states to make a recovery seems like a lots missing from our history to me people left so poor they ate soil for one thing. American dream who,s is that then
that's not true, Quantrill did not die until after the end of the war. he died in Kentucky after a raid on the Wakefield farm where they were hiding from patrolling Union soldiers. it was after Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox and Johnston surrendered to Sherman, both in April 1865. Quantrill was on his way to join that army and attempt to be paroled like a regular soldier (an unlikely occurrence considering his history) and disappear to another state. Quantril's band was found on May 10. He was shot and paralyzed that day. he died almost a month later on June 6 1865. the Centralia massacre happened on Sep 27, 1864. Quantrill did not participate in the massacre because of a leadership dispute with Anderson, for reasons that became obvious after the massacre.
Another great mini doc Prof. Heaton! I’ve got to relate a family story. Our cousin’s great grandfather was a whiskey peddler in Missouri in the 1870’s. One day while making his rounds with a mule driven wagon, a group of heavily armed riders came out of the woods and stopped the wagon. One rider did all the talking, and said in a respectful tone, “We need whiskey old man”. Several bottles were passed to the riders, then the head rider tossed a bag of silver dollars worth way more than the whiskey to the peddler. It was Jesse James. Several of those silver dollars have been family heirlooms ever since.
Great story indeed.
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Are they $20 silver eagles? I'll give you $20 each just to get them off your hands. You pay the shipping
They rode against railroads
They rode against the banks,
They rode against the government
Never once asked for a word of thanks.
-Warren Zevon
And didn't care if they killed unarmed people
@@paulbegley1464 cost of doing business.
@@paulbegley1464Hey, go get another booster.
@@RIVALContentJammerz Hay, they were still murderers. What's the difference between them and the thugs in the inner city's. Just a different time and there reasons were flawed just as much.
@@RIVALContentJammerz and you can go back and march with BLM, ANTIFA and the pro Palestinian Hamas lovers
Another great video--including old AF photos of actual stuff is great stuff, thank you for this service
Glad you enjoyed it
My Father told when I was younger. He knew his great grandmother Minnie. She told him when she was a about 4 or 5 she and her family traveled by horse and wagon from Minnesota to Michigan, where my Dad is from. It's crazy to think before she past she saw Neil and Buzz walk on the moon. Anyway, my Great great grandmother told my Father when they were on there way to Michigan they stopped in Northfield.
Her Father took the horses to be fed and watered. Her Mother took her into general good store, since they needed more provisions for their journey. While in the store they started hearing gun shots and yelling. The owner of the store took my Great great grandmother and her mother, put them under a table and, covered it. The man told them to stay put he would be right back.
He came back, a few moments later, with his shotgun, and protected my grandmother. She said he saw the man whispered into her mothers ear and her face turned white as a ghost. After the shooting my grandmother asked her what happened. She said an evil man name Jesse James and his band of misfits tried robbing the bank next door. They stayed for a couple of days in town before they left. They wanted to make sure the gang was well out of the area.
It's incredible how close my family was to a major part of American history.
That is a great story indeed. Thanks for watching
That was the most detailed timeline I've ever seen for the James gang. Very interesting.
Thank you for explaining as a historic authority how reconstruction was not a particularly good thing for the south, and how it impacted families of all backgrounds with the unfortunate turning by many to crime. Added: Interesting the amount of land covered in the 19th century. In the 21st century walking house to street is work.
Im from Buckner Missouri (Across the river from Kearney and the James farm) grew up with 15 James all Cousins. They have a big family. One day at our local bar one of the James showed me a pic of an old looked to be converted pocket dragoon in .36 said it was from a raid Jesse did. Family has alot of relics and memorabilia
My ancestor, Francis Marion McLey, was about an hour and a half north of there. We ended up in central Iowa.
Good morning all from NW Arkansas. Another great video to learn history from.
As a lifelong Minnesota resident, I have always taken great interest in the James Gang. I remember reading in the paper once that during the fire at the Stillwater state prison, that the warden gave the shotgun to Cole Younger, as he knew nobody would mess with him. Great story keep the videos coming!
Im sitting about 20 miles from his supposed hideout in Stanton MO, imo if they hid gold, it was in the Ozarks not in Kansas.
Which part of the Ozarks are in Kansas? I always thought they were in Missouri, Arkansas and a little bit in Oklahoma.
@@kosjeyryou are correct and Kansas and a little bit of Illinois
Expected some mention of what happened to all that money but not a word.
Ozarks are believed to be the Garden of Eden, by many, so it makes sense.
@@kosjeyrOzarks left a bit of lead and a fair amount of Charcoal in Kansas.
Great video. Appreciate all the details.
Our pleasure!
Another great video ! This has quickly become one of my favorite channels.
What have I been missing? I am a huge history buff!! This is an awesome channel! TY Professor.
Missouri has a lot of history, just have to dig a little.
♥️ forgotten history ♥️, another great video! Thanks to the crew!
Glad you enjoyed it
Really appreciate this. My grandmother from White County Arkansas loved telling me and my brother that we were related to the Younger family but never elaborated. She died in 1987, and I've never researched her claims. This video reminded me of my purported ancestors, and I will now start learning if and how I'm related to the Younger family. Thank you for a very informative presentation.
Excellent. There was a ton of work done on this project
Very well done and most informative. Thanks so much for posting this fascinating VDO.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome documentary professor! I'm a HS history teacher and I'm learning so much from your work! Keep it up!
Awesome Content! I'm a direct descendant of 'The Loomis gang', and with the help of my grandmother [genealogist / historian]
We were also able to track down two other families we're from - That 100% dealt w/ and rode w/ the James boys. Love this stuff!
Excellent coverage! Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Another great video ! Thank you Mr. Heaton.
Tough days to be a cashier. Great video!
Your work is so good. Please never stop
My husband was shocked when I told him he had a James connection through the Hite family. More shocked to learn that at Fort Campbell he had been right next door to Wood Hite's father's property in Kentucky.
This is great stuff. I like how this channel addresses the real stories of these people in this age of trying to erase confederate history.
Cole Younger is buried in my hometown of Lee's Summit, Mo
Frank and Jesse were with Anderson at Centralia and through out the Price Raid on Missouri. Quantrill had been ousted as leader of the band in Sherman/Denton Texas in late 63 early 64 the band fragmented into two semi separate bands under Georgia Todd and Bill Anderson. John Newman Edwards had been J.O. Shelby's Adjutant during the war and took up his former profession as a news paper man 15:05 it is believed by some to have actually polished and or written some if not most of Jesse's correspondence for publication..
Very good content as always Colin. Thank You.
Best Wishes to You, Your Family and Friends.
Same to you!
Entertaining and educational, as always.
Thanks for such a detailed video…your stories are so good I’m grateful for a longer video!!
Thank you again, sir. Thanks to the whole team ❤️🤙🏻
Glad you like them!
What a great in depth video of the James Gang! I learn so much from your videos.! The best on TH-cam! Or any where else for that matter.
Thanks for watching
Great video as always. I’m sure you know the story of Jesse being a member of the Knights of the Golden Circle and how the James Gang hid confederate gold. Treasure hunters searching for it to this day. Inspiration for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
We know the story. Thanks for watching
You did a lot of work. Keeping track of these guys was extensive; they were robbing and shooting all the way east to W Va, back to western Mo, especially KC area, then back to KY, AL, TN, then Iowa, then Minnesota. That's some active, dedicated outlaws there, for sure. Thanks for covering the Centralia, MO massacre by Bloody Bill, of which Frank and Jesse took part. Didn't realize Jesse killed that Union major. The Younger brothers were also interesting. You telling the story of Cole Younger and Frank James retiring after being pardoned to a traveling Wild West Show reminds me of the scene in the 2nd True Grit, where an older Mattie Ross finds out that Rooster Cogburn had died, and she travels to retrieve Cogburn's body. In this scene she meets Frank James and Cole Younger. She is polite to Younger, but spits at Frank James and calls him "scum." Great scene. Finally, I found it interesting that you looked up the tombstones of both Frank and Jesse. Frank's headstone has him identified as Alexander F. James, as if to hide the fact that this is Frank James. Jesse's on the other hand....He was assassinated. Says so right there on the stone....must be true! I enjoyed this one!
your videos are awesome, thank you for posting - more, please
More to come!
Always loved learning about the past and the way it is conveyed here makes me love it even more.
Great channel.
Great content.
Great documentary .
Thanks.
Great informative and interesting vid again 👍 Thank you professor, appreciate it a LOT !!
My pleasure!
The James Brothers were seen as Heros where I grew up in St Jo MO. and, many claimed that they were related to Jesse. :) We saw the James brothers as Robin Hoods, 🙂
Thanks for watching
They weren't robin hoods - why would murderers be heroes to anyone?
Love your channel! Airborne!
Airborne!
great episode
Lots of people have a Jesse James story but having a date and place (1874 in Hot Springs and Malvern, Arkansas) gives me something to go on concerning him having contact with some of my ancestors.
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Thanks for the info
J&F James are in my family tree....
Great video.
Awesome! Thank you!
Sorry about that.
Thank you for this great video I really enjoyed it always been fascinated with this chapter of history
New intro looks great!
Glad you think so!
Thanks for this video. I was surprised that Jessie was put on trial and found not guilty several times.
That was Frank, Thanks for watching
Heres an excerpt from my hometown of Boonville, MO about the old jail. "The most famous of the many prisoners associated with the Jail was Frank James, brother of Jesse. On April 24th, 1884, James was brought to the Cooper County Jail by Sheriff John Rogers to answer a warrant for his arrest for a train robbery that took place in 1876. Sympathetic citizens of Boonville raised his bond in a matter of hours. The case was later dismissed for lack of evidence."
“I have been in Ohio, Pennsylvania and other states we learned to hate because they gave birth to the federal troops we hated so well, and their people have treated me like a man,” Frank told the war-scarred veterans. “But here in Missouri, among my own people, I am unhonored and unsung, then why should I not turn to the belief of the people who have, in my declining years, proved my friends?” - excerpt from a speech Frank James gave at the August 1904 reunion of Quantrill’s men in Independence, Missouri, explaining why he later settled with his family in Oklahoma.
Thanks for watching.
Im from Malvern Arkansas.
It was my grandfather Jesse got the watch from on the stage between Malvern and Hot Springs.
He served in the 1st South Carolina out of Lexington.
Had an impeccable record.
Moved our family to the backwoods of Arkansas because of reconstruction. To live in peace.
He was not angry about the watch as my family tells it.
Also, Zee was not a cousin to Jesse by blood. But by marriage. She was the niece of Dr. Samuel.
I would hope this gets corrected.
The James brothers had to find wives who could live with them lock and step considering they could not get a pardon and were hunted before they took to night riding.
I love America. I love the South even more. Its my home and my people.
All the people of the South.
One of my Grandmother’s cousins was married to Merrill Younger. So the Gang sometimes would hang out at their place in North Texas
4:26 - U. S. Army soldiers traveling in the 1860's who were not allowed to be armed became victims of an attack. Whether it was by enemy soldiers or merely criminals, either way something suggests to me that this was inexcusable.
Meanwhile, in the 20th and 21st Centuries ...
Inexcusable?
Are you unaware of what the yankees were doing ?
This is a very interesting video and helps draw a line between reality and fiction.
Have you heard the song "Jesse James" by Brazzaville? I heard it live when Brazzaville came to Tel Aviv.
They're an American band.
no I have not. Thanks for watching. Strange name, as that was a major city in the Belgian Congo
Excellent video.
Semper Fi Marine!!
Many thanks!
In Australia we really only had the famous Ned Kelly.
Whereas i love the history of the Old West and basically the life of the early American history until around the beginning of World War ll.
I enjoy watching your episodes but as a Jesse Woodson James researcher and great great grandson, I will have to skip this one because Jesse Woodson James was not Charlie Bigelow Samuel who Jesse Woodson James killed and is buried in the Mount Olivet Cemetery. Jesse Woodson James died at the age of 103 as J Frank Dalton.
True history class in session brilliant gents.
That is a lie. If you read Cole Youngers book, he stated the Cole and Jesse had an argument and Jesse and Frank never went to Northfield, and were never there. Why do they keep saying this?
He was a Patriot, a Freedom Fighter, and a Hero to his people.
Thanks for watching
That's complete bullshit - Hero of what ? He was a murderer - his actions caused the deaths of many innocent people - there's nothing heroic about causing a train to derail and killing a little girl -
He used a slimy Yankee newspaper writer to propagandize his story - How heroic is that - it's not
Don't forget, A Murderer and a thief
I did some online search and found out that Frank and Jesse's dad died after getting to California of cholera however it might not be true he might have died en route.
Jesse & Frank James & Billy The Kid etc were Total Outlaws very informative thank you keep it up Sir .... GOD BLESS AMERICA 🇺🇸 FJB 🇺🇸 WOLVERINES .
How dare you paint Billy with the same brush as those murderers.
My dad wanted to call me Yancy but mom said Hell No! So he went with Cole, because he read it in a book about gunfighters.
A fitting musical accompaniment to this video would be….
Frank and Jessie James by Warren Zevon.
Cool song… check it out.💪👍
Cole Youngers great great great granddaughter is my step-daughter. They've got the same eyes, its pretty wild.
I think Jesse James had the highest bounty offered for a reward in the old West.
You may be right.
My late wife and I visited Northfield, Mn, bac😂k in the 90's during The Defeat of Jesse James Days. This is a annual festival weekend held in Northfield. Actors portray the attempted robbery of the bank there.
Shocking ending. Blood is thicker than water. After all the rampaging and murdering, his father defended his son to the end. Bizarre.
And after all those $hundreds of $thousands stolen in the 1800s and his wife still died penniless and destitute?
Wow! What a tragic life beginning to end 🤯🤯
He looks a lot like Jefferson Davis' vice president of the confederacy
$60,000, in the 1870s? I dont believe that, when gold was $20 an oz and people worked all month for $20, a bunk and meals? That would be 7 million $ or more in today's money. I doubt that all of the banks in the state had that much money back then.
Much of it was payroll gold, banking investment money.
$60k in 1870 was about $1.4 million today.
Didn't they hide out in Merimac Caverns too?
Unsure
When I was a robbery specialist the crew I belonged to would give out free facial treatments to anyone with a badge.
Thanks for watching
Yeah, a real tough guy
Catchy name for a gang...
Would make a great name for a band. 😁
Yes, and a guy named Joe Walsh would be an asset
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL If you don't have Joe Walsh in your band you have to...erm "Walk Away". 🤣
About that time there was an bad outbreak of Cholera along the way to California
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😅Seems in 1871 these activities could have burned Chicago many unusual fires took place around the same timen. The tenth anniversary of the beginning of the Civil War. Certainly some factor contributes to the South believing it was a great Confederacy victory. Really good research and presentation. Thanks for educating us.
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Wood & Clarence Hite were 1st cousins to Frank & Jessie James & my great uncles..There " hideout" in Nashville was at the corner of Brick Church Pk & Old Hickory Blvd & is a national historic site ( bullet holes & all) which still stands today..No lawmen had the guts to try & arrest them so they stayed in Nashville off & on between robberies. Robert Ford murdered Jessie James & my uncle Wood & was eventually murdered himself as depicted in the Brad Pitt movie ( the cowardly deeds of Robert Ford) wich also depicts my great, great grandfather..A proud heritage it is..LOL.
Seems a lot of Confederate soldiers were treated so badly they ended up turning to crime because they had little choice.
Even though many tried to do the right thing, farming and whatever, but its like they were branded as bad and the north wouldn't allow them to forget the war and get on with life.
I need to learn more about US history ,
Them men played for keeps! Talk about an outdoor life! We got trucks parked, with V8's, if one is lucky. Those men, had saddled horses, ready to go. Love the real pictures of the players. No game, however!
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if the robbers actually DID get such huge amounts of money, they were some stupid, GREEDY bastards. Why keep doing such dangerous crap when you're a millionaire? Cause that's what they would have been, easily, in today's money.
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Northfield Minnesota shows the reality. For they rode North. They thought it would be an easy score. Small bank. Rural town. Forgetting that the Sioux uprising was only a few years earlier. Citizens were familiar with guns. The James Gang and several others. Split up into 3 groups...but all met at the Bank. However...they were wearing there White Duster's riding fancy horses. They were noticed. They thought Strong Arm tactics would work. Experienced gun men. They would Dominate the situation. However....the Bank manager refused to open the safe. Bank's were not insured back then. Jesse shot him in cold blood. They only got $27. The shot was heard by the gun men outside and at the hardware store next to the Bank. The Store owner shouted out. "Arm yourselves...there robbing the Bank". Suddenly.....the whole town started shooting at the Bank and it's robber's. A survivor told the story. He and a few others went to Stillwater prison. A few other's died of lead poisoning. Frank and Jesse ran away! They never recovered. They escaped back to Missouri but by now they had lost there charm. They were cold blooded Killers. They shot one settler during the robbery......he didn't speak a word of English. A Swede immigrant. He had froze in the street not knowing what to do. Frank Miller shot him in the head. He died 3 days later. And became the foundation of a Church. The shoot out is re inacted every year. Which is amazing in liberal Minnesota. This Northfield Raid was National News. And widely celebrated. The Town fought back! They were not Robin Hoods.
Do ya believe the gang had inside info on banks railroads ?
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Buried up the road from me.
Reading jj last rebel of the civil war now what do you think about the two jj that where family.one from kentucky one from missouri.if you look at the pivtures outthere one looks older then the other one.ones a col in the kgc and the other was a decoy i believe ive read alot about them everyone says there related j frank dalton was decoy i believe and died in 1950 as jacob b gerltin missouri from what the family sayes.
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The problem with the period between 1865 and 1885 is that it's really distorted. The Wild West was not that wild, and there was not a lot of crime. The people who settled in the West a lot of them were veterans of the Civil War, a hard and bloody conflict. They were not going to put up with crap. What we know of the period comes from Dime novels, yellow journalism, Wild West shows, and the movies. All of it is mostly made up. Life was hard, and people mostly worked hard for little reward. Farming was hard work, but before mechanization, it still is. Jesse James and his gang were just criminals, nothing more. Yet, due to Americans' fascination with the criminal world, they became larger than life in their time. Never mind, what a god-awful way to live. Americans' fascination with crime and criminals lives on in our movies and TV. Just look at the HBO Crime Drama/Comedy The Sopranos, for example, or Goodfellas, the Elephant in the Room, and The Godfather. The hard part is finding the historical truth to what when on in that period of our history. The West became America's heroic Myth. Once again Dr. Heaton, you bring clarity to what is the most convoluted 20 years in our history.
Americans are no different than Swedes, Nigerians, Japanese, or any other group of humans; people are people.
The west is still wild! 😂😅 I’m from there people still are shot! Daily. Open spaces! Miles and miles! 😂🤣 lots of guns and cartels and gangs!
It’s Cavalry… Not Calvary.
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Frank is buried right down the street from mine old housen in hill par off 23rd street in indep Missouri right by churches chicken
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I guess you and NPR's American series documentaries on quantrill and James disagree with you.
NPR has a lot of problems, they slant their history to fit their Marxist anti-American progressive narrative, which is why they have never been a credible news source
a lot of robberies
a lot of money!
what did they do with all that money??
Spent it and what they didn't spend they put it in the ground
they spent most of it on wh0res and whiskey... the rest they just kind of blew...
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@@slimbrady6691 Glad someone got it. Ol Llewellyn, he takes all comers.
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Their dad reminds me of bill nye (unfortunately)
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I'm related to Jesse James
So are the rest of America 🇺🇸
My cousin has a picture of Jesse James from 1911 or so with my Grandfather it appears to be real . I have told her it may be worth a lot she refuses to anyone but family see it . They are in a cave with a fire somewhere in Oklahoma .
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Didn't he die around 1882?
So, I been wondering, who forgot all this history anyway? Joe Biden? But, seriously, You are doing a wonderful job with your history channel. Thanks for another well done videos.
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@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Unfortunately that's so true. The phrase "Every schoolboy knows..." is laughable now. Most schoolboys today don't even know if they are boys or girls!
Jesse James was an adrenaline junkie
Ño civil war no James/Younger gang. There was no magnanimity and no" Marshall Plan" for the post bellum former Confederate States after the civil war .It took a century for those states to make a recovery seems like a lots missing from our history to me people left so poor they ate soil for one thing. American dream who,s is that then
Jesse James of West Coast choppers is "Jesse James"
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Great video 👍
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Obviously the result of scanty "research." So much speculation and so many easily documentable mistakes. I'll be generous and give this video a C-.
Great stuff per usual
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Quintrill was dead before Centralia
that's not true, Quantrill did not die until after the end of the war. he died in Kentucky after a raid on the Wakefield farm where they were hiding from patrolling Union soldiers. it was after Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox and Johnston surrendered to Sherman, both in April 1865. Quantrill was on his way to join that army and attempt to be paroled like a regular soldier (an unlikely occurrence considering his history) and disappear to another state. Quantril's band was found on May 10. He was shot and paralyzed that day. he died almost a month later on June 6 1865. the Centralia massacre happened on Sep 27, 1864. Quantrill did not participate in the massacre because of a leadership dispute with Anderson, for reasons that became obvious after the massacre.
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