Yep, but that was also for that original serum. Everyone who took this new serum in the series seemed to get more aggressive/violent after taking it tho
Plus Steve held back /pulled his punches for normal people. ( Bucky is doing the same thing in this series too. He spent so much time being trained to not Hurt anyone else. And he is figuring out who he is) as far as Steve and Bucky were both good people who just wanted to stop WW-2 ( the only major difference between them was their physical attributes) Mentally they both had big hearts. Both were empathetic toward others. And I think the original formula is way stronger than this new one.
@@py16667 Exactly. The only Serum that was actually formulated by Dr. Erskine was formulated correctly. Replication attempts fell way short. Bucky became worse (and easily brainwashed) even though he was a good hearted person.
@@py16667 I think you could interpret that as working the same way as the original serum, as most people are not perfectly magnanimous and selfless and only interested in doing the right thing like Steve Rogers... most of us, if given the power to act on them, do have aggressive, selfish, and even violent compulsions that might come to the surface.
@py16667 that's the reason the doctor chose Steve, because steve said he wanted to beat the bullies and cuz dr also explained that a strong person is already used to power vs someone like Steve is gifted power, know how the little guy feels and would know how to use it for good (something along those lines)
7:52 "Always remember that the crowd that applauds your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People like a show." - Terry Pratchett
John was suffering from PTSD well before he was given the mantle of being the "new Captain America", and managed to hide that from those that gave it to him (or they knew and didn't care). The serum amplifies more than just the physical aspects of the recipient, and John's mind/persona was just as effected, like other recipients.
Yea I agree Walker Had PTSD. Before taking the Serum. That Comes out in different ways the first few episodes ...The Talk he and His Partner Had (Battlestar) When they talked about all the Lives that could have been saved that day? Or the Locker room. before he went out to Address the Crowd. You could see it Just In his Face. (Really his best friend and His Wife were the only 2 people who anchored him. From full on Losing, it sooner.
As for the shield, if you recall, in Civil War, Spiderman comments on how the shield doesn't follow the laws of physics. Sam is just learning to react to his own throws and the shield's actions from them, just as anyone else would have to. Vibranium is a "tricky" substance, and the interpretations of its capabilities has varied over the years.
Well, it's the transfer of energy, or the lack of it, that makes Vibranium odd. The way it bounces off of multiple targets without any loss of energy is where the real questions start. A normal item would lose energy in both directions as the item thrown and the target hit would both cause the energy of the throw to drop with each hit. As it appears to work in the films, it doesn't lose any energy from the throw, but seems to still deliver it with hits (targets being knocked back or down), which is what makes it "not right". Unless the MCU rationalizes that Vibranium has a "battery like" ability to "store" the energy applied (throwing) without losing any of it on contact (hitting targets) until someone or something literally grabs/stops it (allowing it to disperse/discharge from being at rest). Anyway, even the basic science of this is over my head and only guesses at best.
Yea the Vibranium can absorb and project the Energy. Seem's Even Kinetic energy from the First thing the Shield hit's It ricochets with equal or more force. (Plus, Walker Had to Train with it. as a 'Normal' guy) Sam Use's it in Creative ways.
You could tell at the end of Endgame that Bucky knew Steve was not coming back by the conversation the had before Steve left when Bucky said I'm gonna miss you.
You got to remember, Vibranium is super light and strong. The sheild doesn't weigh the same as if it was made out of other metal. Anyone could throw it. The trick is getting the angles. It absorbs kinetic energy and kind of puts it into the shield, which is why it bounces like a rubber ball. Steve did it effortlessly because his mind could calculate the angles almost instantly due to the serum. But anybody who trains would be able to use it.
No, Cap didn't break out Clint or Scott, that's why they were on house arrest by the time the Infinity War/Endgame cycle happened. They didn't want to live on the run, they wanted the chance to still be with their families.
Also, ya know how we already knew that Steve told Bucky his plan move on? At the end of Endgame, when Buck tells Steve that he's taking all the stupid with him. They hug, and Bucky says "I'm gonna miss you"
For sure....The way they said Goodbye in End Game. It was not a ''See you in 5 min's''.- That was the ''Just in case I never see you again''. Type of Goodbye. Like when - Bucky went on Tour. WW-2 .
So Isaiah Bradley's monologue about what happened to him is based on a very horrific event that happened. It's called the "Tuskegee Experiment." I would definitely google all about it. The OTHER thing to mention about Isaiah's monologue is he did the EXACT same thing Steve did in the first Captain America move: He disobeyed orders to go save his fellow men in the military. However, they jailed Isaiah BUT they made Steve a hero. That's the big message I think they were trying to portray in the epic monologue.
The obvious racial element aside, the biggest difference is that Steve disobeyed orders but saved hundreds of men. Isaiah saved a few guys who wound up dying anyway. Most important, Isaiah risked exposing the unethical government program that created him. Remember the military brass wanted to destroy the entire base, just to hide the evidence of their program that experimented upon all those African-American soldiers. So the people in power he almost ruined, retaliated by sending him to prison.
The shield throwing, in comic canon can be learned by anyone, it's vibranium so it's not very heavy and it's perfectly rigid so it returns 100 percent of its energy, so it bounces back at the same speed thrown, it's a crazy fictional metal for sure lol
In the comics the serum not only amplifies a person's physical abilities but also their intellectual abilities. That's why Cap was a master strategist and able to calculate trajectories of the shield on the fly so whenever he threw it it would ricochet back to him.
@BXBATMAN No, it applies to 616 also, "Peak Human Mental Processing: Rogers' mental performance is greatly enhanced to the highest limits of human potential, allowing it to operate in the most advanced and rapid manner possible. His mind also processes information quickly, giving him an accelerated learning aptitude; for example, Beast once stated that Rogers can learn and master any weapon within seconds. He possesses an eidetic/photographic memory and perfect recall, meaning he never forgets what he sees and experiences, paired with the ability to speed read, and can thereby intuitively understand what's likely going to happen and how best to deal with it. This enables him to remember any military tactic and apply it to any situation. Master Shield Fighter: Rogers' years of training and experience with his unique shield, as well as its physical properties, allowing him to accomplish amazing feats with the item. Aside from bashing foes and blocking incoming attacks he is able to throw it with nearly perfect aim, being able to estimate its hit and rebounding return virtually to the millimeter.[218] Rogers can hit multiple targets with the same throw by means of ricochet, and could even achieve a boomerang-like return effect, allowing him to strike enemies from behind or retrieve the shield without objects to ricochet from."
The heart shaped herb garden was burned by killmonger in black panther. There’s none to share with Sam (or pass on to future Black Panthers)…not that they would since it’s reserved for those elected as the Black Panther
The comics version of Zemo was that he was the leader of the Masters of Evil, who fought against the Avengers. Since these stories were written in the early 1960's, Steve's freezing was to explain why he disappeared after the war, in order to be brought back, rather than to explain the 70 year gap. Heinrich Zemo was a major baddie, and although he did not appear in the comics in the 1940's (during the war), it was explained that he and Cap had battled it out during WWII when he showed up in the 60s. Zemo was credited with killing Bucky during the war, as Bucky was a young teenaged sidekick for the comics, and not a contemporary best friend. Zemo wore a purple head covering, and the original explanation was that Adhesive X prevented him from removing it. (It was an experimental adhesive, and the hood was stuck to his head.). Eventually, after not using him for a while, they brought his character back, but in the form of the original Zemo's son, Helmut Zemo. He went on to form the Thunderbolts, who temporarily replaced the Avengers, when they disappeared for a year. They were all former villains who had similar powers and dressed as the missing heroes, attempting to rehabilitate their criminal personas, not realizing it was Zemo leading them as Citizen V. The MCU tends to change things, because they don't have to come up with a story once a month and keep characters around, so there are obvious differences.
Weird bit of info, but Torres who actually takes over the falcon mantle in the comics, he actually looks just like this actor in the show. P.s in the comics, I think black widow had some toned down version of the serum.
I believe Black Widow did take a version of the super soldier serum in the comics, and was actually about as old as Steve Rogers, but in the MCU, she's not even old enough to have been in the KGB.
In the comics she was a little girl in WWII, where she first met both Captain America and Wolverine. She also took the Russian version of the super solder serum in the comics.
Yeah in the comics Natasha got a Russian version of the serum, while Bucky had no serum during his entire time as the Winter Soldier. In the MCU Natasha doesn't have any serum, just training.
What makes this show so good to me and so many others from what I have heard is the struggle of not believing in yourself or being worthy. That’s the same feeling we get in Thor when he can’t lift the hammer and finding out what Odin is trying to teach him. Steve eventually picking up Mjornir. Sam doesn’t feel like he’s worthy to be the next Cap and the real fans understand that it can’t be Bucky with what he is going through mentally. Sam is the rightful choice and the whole time people that believe in him are disappointed that he can’t see what everyone else sees. Sometimes it takes outside opinion to help prove to yourself that you were worthy of something the whole time.
23:56 You seem to have forgotten that the Wakandan Heart-Shaped Herb, which gives Black Panther his super soldier abilities, was all burned away by Killmonger. King T'Challa, the Black Panther, got the last one which Nakia quickly stole before it was all burnt away. Its what saved T'Challa's life
Shuri being a genius also was able to create a near perfect replica, which also took her to see the last Black Panther... or as it was in her case... Killmonger. BP2 was such an underrated gem. People just hate on stupid things.
steve didnt throw the shield good because he was strong, he was just skilled. thats how john was able to use it before he took the serum. its not heavy and doesnt require strength, just skill to use. it is made of vibranium which absorbs an friction and resistant energy allowing it to cut through the air like butter, so it doesnt need great strength only skill to use. thats how sam is able to use it, alot of your confusion is because you dont understand the powers. also you cannot take more serum to get more powers, it doesnt work like that, if you take x3 recommended dose of medicine, it will have no benefit or possibly have negative effects
2:18 Erskine to Steve Rogers: ,,The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great. Bad becomes worse. This is why you were chosen. Because a strong man who has known power all his life may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength. And knows compassion." So yes. Power (the serum) makes you more who you are in this history.
Yes it's better to water plants at night so that evaporation is reduced, ensuring the roots absorb more water efficiently. During the day you'll waste part of it and they might still be thirsty.
A whole bunch of people have been Captain America for varying periods of time when Steve either hung up the mantle or died temporarily in the comics. At least four of those people are in this show.
Doesn't seem anyone has mentioned, so yeah, watering plants at night lets the plants soak up the water without worrying about it evaporating in the heat of the sun.
Dr. Erskine said that the treatment amplified what was already there so good became great and bad became worse depending where a person was at physically, emotionally and mentally. Which is how they came up with Red Skull's actual appearance in the MCU. 😮
I agree, the show was awesome. I also agree that the cliffhangers are epic, lol. I think they did a really good job on rebranding Cap, by delving more into the story of creating the super soldiers and the serum, and of course how the serum affects people differently based on their attributes and the type of serum they took.
The shield that the government gave to Steve Rogers in WWII was destroyed by Thanos. Steve came back from his journey with a new shield, which he didn't have when he left. (He left with Mjonir, and came back with a shield.
@@bryce253Steve spent potentially fifty years in an alternate universe with the advantage of knowing Hydra was going to try and rebuild, so potentially took care of that early. So they had fifty years to build up to prepare for aliens, ally with Wakanda etc. Not too much of a stretch to assume he asked them for a spare shield to take back to the original universe when he “retired”.
22:36 the shield is actually extremely light weight and the way it’s shaped is made so that it always goes back to where it was thrown any normal human can throw it effectively Clint did it in age of ultron but of course Sam isn’t able to throw it as strong as Steve but doesn’t need to be to throw it effectively
Marvel comics has canonically listed Cap's shield at either 10 or 12 pounds over the decades. That, on top of it defying the laws of physics, makes it formidable in the hands of Olympic-level atheletes like Walker or Sam. Naturally, a super-soldier just hits harder, farther and faster.
Yep. Of course the comic book shield isn't pure vibranium, it's a vastly stronger alloy of vibranium and steel called proto-adamantiun, which has never been successfully duplicated.
The serum amplifies power…and that is dangerous. Erskin explained what the serum does…but it was Uncle Ben who best explained what someone with the serum needs. With Great Power comes…well, you know the line. What it truly means is someone who has taken the serum needs Great Restraint. Sometimes you have to hold back, because that punch can do more than hurt…it can injure. (And, out of the MCU, this applies to all forms of power…physical, economic, political…the effects of what you do with your power is amplified, so you have to use it with restraint…and, take responsibility for what you do, good or bad.) This episode lays John Walker bare. When he’s attacking Sam and Bucky, he’s hitting with full force, screaming “Why are you making me do this???” No responsibility. It also lays the government bare when Walker, rightfully, takes them to task. They take no responsibility either. And remember this as we wrap up the show, because the question of responsibility….this show takes a swing at saying how they can. And then there’s Zemo, and idealist who has done horrible things for his ideal, but also someone who, so far as we have seen, has also not fought to avoid responsibility or punishment for his actions. It is an interesting comparison. I LOVE this show for all its themes and deep questions. It’s not trying to be simple, and more shows need to be that.
Jax you have an awesome talent for natural and intelligent conversations with the camera. What I love about TFAWS are the grassroot plotlines that can affect normal citizens. Remember a Super Soldier is the maximum performance of a human body, it isn't superhuman strength. Sam can do this.
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Only Black Panther take Heart-shaped plant. Even if they wanted to, they couldn't give it to them because the killmonger burned all the plants to the ground. The beginning of this episode is my favorite scene, it's extremely good when they fight for the shield.
Remember the raft was the prison in the Sea. Steve went back for Bucky , Wanda ( capt America Civil War movie) Also that was a Statue to remember the Fallen ( The Flying City avengers, two age of Ultron) Sokovia!
In the comics, Torres inherits the wings and becomes Falcon when Sam gets a promotion. 10:55 That’s a monument for all the Sokovians who were killed by Ultron, not just Baron Zemo’s family. Also, his comment about not killing Bucky is not a joke. Zemo is Marvel’s Batman - no super powers, wealthy, and a super genius. His plans work. If he wanted to kill Bucky, he’d die. It’s part of what he was doing in episode 3. He snooped in Bucky’s notebook and kept pushing him to see if Bucky is good enough a person to be allowed to live as a super soldier.
I never had the impression that the super soldier serum affected anything else but the physical stats. Look at what all took place up to him getting the serum. They way they explained why Walker was chosen as the candidate was all about his war record and physical aptitude - the same mistaken view that Col Phillips had in the original project. Doubtful they did any sort of personality and psych assessments on him- Walker already had signs of having an ego and an inferiority complex, and would react angrily if he was not given respect to his authority or got what he wanted. That was something he was likely already used to with his rank and record. Making him Cap WITHOUT having the power brought all those issues out. He was fine and dandy being the PR hero and getting all the respect and love... but he never got respect from Bucky and Sam, same with the normal Flag Smashers. That was bad enough, but once he had to go up against enhanced opponents, he was outclassed, and his ego couldn't take it. Then he thought he at least could deal with regular people and got trashed by the Dora Milaje (not realizing they might be normal, but had WAY more training and experience). And all this was BEFORE the serum. Once he took it, the only thing that changed was his ability to win in a fight with an enhanced. Without the serum, Walker would still have wanted to kill a Flag Smasher to get revenge for Battlestar (but likely getting defeated or killed in the process)
It's worth noting that in Marvel Comics from the 1960s to 2000s, both Steve Rogers and T'Challa were NOT superhuman. they were officially classified as "peak human". The super-soldier serum and heart-shaped herb both elevated people to the absolute upper limit of human physical ability, but not beyond that. So Steve and T'Challa were superior to the greatest Olympic athletes in history, able to lift 750-800 llbs overhead, bench press 1100-1200 lbs, and run at 30mph (for reference, the world's fastest Olympic sprinters might hit 22mph). But in the MCU (which was partially based upon Marvel's "Ultimate" universe known as Earth-1610) the serum was more effective, turning people into low-level superhumans instead of just peak humans. That's why MCU Cap can lift 2-3 tons overhead and run at nearly 60mph. The serum being much more powerful in the Ultimate universe and MCU is why so many other storylines (even the Hulk's origin) revolved around attempts to replicate it.
Hello Jax!😊 You are correct. The doctor told Steve the serum makes someone more of what is inside them. The serum just amplifies what is already there. That is why Red Skull was the way he was. He was bad to begin with. Yep, if you rewatch Endgame it is clear Steve told Bucky that he planned on staying in the past. Maybe the metallic properties of the shield make it easier to throw? It is unlike any other metal on Earth. The episodes are going by faster. I was shocked that was the end already!🤯 Great reactions to another episode, Jax!!!!🎬👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!🎄1⃣
Oh, that’s why I wanted to say Jax Isaiah, was In prison ( remember Hydra was inside of Shield ) so they locked him away to experiment on him . The Red Room/Russia had Bucky and Hydra in shield had Bradley ) They wanted to recreate the same Serum . But even his super soldier serum was not as good as the original version. Steve was like a hundred years old when he was in Endgame before he was sent back to live another lifetime. When he gave Sam the Shield He would have been 150 or more years old. Bucky and Steve age way slower than the other “super soldier “ ( excluding the hulk who really didn’t do the same process and is immortal for the most part)
The fact that the super soldier serums after Steve were devised from the experimentations on Isaiah Bradley flies over the head of most people. Good job.
Power just amplifies what you are at your core, whether in this world or another. It makes it easier for you to do what you want, so your values are amplified because you can make them happen. Any kind of power does this, sexual power, physical power, social power, political power, etc., etc.
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What you miss in not being a comic reader or knowing the stories outside of the MCU is that Captain America is strong but he is not crazy super strong. Movies tend to make things bigger for entertainment affect. In the comics he is strong but he is what we would call peak human condition. The super soldier serum is sort of blown out of proportion in the MCU. Also the story is about heroes don't need things like the serum to make them heroes. This has also been an issue in the comics. In DC heroes were gods amongst men like Wonder Woman and Superman. In Marvel it is about regular people being given great powers and having great responsibility. Modern comic writers have been going against the comics of the past saying the power is not what makes you great or a hero. It should be about the person. Heroes are all around us in our everyday lives. We just don't look for them without the cape or the flashy powers. It is an interesting delimma but the super soldier serum is only making the characters the peak of what they would be as humans. Black Widow is suppose to have a version of it in her but nothing was as perfectly made as the one Steve had but Steve was about the person he was not the serum. The MCU has gone its own way but the issue is still there.
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The shields behaviour is mostly due to what it was made of & training. Steve would have held back lots of times, you see Bucky can throw hard enough to stick in a tree. Sam can’t do that. Fake Caps Shield will be weaker & heavier, so thrown by a super soldier will pack a hefty blow, more than Sam can do, but Sam’s is Vibranium so will fly better & much harder to damage.
As much as it bothers me to see normals throw it at all let alone with force because of how unnatural the motion would be, what bothered me the most was when Sam would catch it like nothing. It would shatter a non-super soldier's arm in a second.
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22:42 Well, Sam now has to do a different training, she can't be like Steve (obviously he is superior in strength, speed and endurance), she can't be like Natasha either (she had a special combat training since she was a child) that makes her superior to an average soldier. Sam was a soldier too but his training was oriented to flight (use of his wings), not so much to hand-to-hand combat, that's what he has to train now (with the shield as a weapon and support)
I think the serum amplifies everything so if your a bit horrible you become a lot horrible. Steve was unique so he went from a lot good to a lot great.
Yes you are right, John Walker IS becoming a villain. And yes, this villain IS in the comics. But I'm getting into spoiler territory, so that's all I'll say about that. But seeing your reaction when Sam was.looking in the briefcase was....PRICELESS!! I had the same reaction when I saw it for the first time O.G. run. One last thing, Episode Six reveals all your questions and IS the series finale, and sets up Brave New World...hint hint.
Tossing in a non Marvel factoid. 13:09 watering plants at night had less surface evaporation so more water is absorbed into the plants and Earth. Also, Elaine's work history going from bad dancing at the J Peterman catalog to shadow government agency is a good one. :)
For the original Cap, the Dr explained the serum amplifies everything. So good becomes great, bad becomes worse. Or something along those lines 🤔
Yep, but that was also for that original serum. Everyone who took this new serum in the series seemed to get more aggressive/violent after taking it tho
Plus Steve held back /pulled his punches for normal people. ( Bucky is doing the same thing in this series too. He spent so much time being trained to not Hurt anyone else. And he is figuring out who he is) as far as Steve and Bucky were both good people who just wanted to stop WW-2 ( the only major difference between them was their physical attributes) Mentally they both had big hearts. Both were empathetic toward others. And I think the original formula is way stronger than this new one.
@@py16667 Exactly. The only Serum that was actually formulated by Dr. Erskine was formulated correctly. Replication attempts fell way short. Bucky became worse (and easily brainwashed) even though he was a good hearted person.
@@py16667 I think you could interpret that as working the same way as the original serum, as most people are not perfectly magnanimous and selfless and only interested in doing the right thing like Steve Rogers... most of us, if given the power to act on them, do have aggressive, selfish, and even violent compulsions that might come to the surface.
@py16667 that's the reason the doctor chose Steve, because steve said he wanted to beat the bullies and cuz dr also explained that a strong person is already used to power vs someone like Steve is gifted power, know how the little guy feels and would know how to use it for good (something along those lines)
7:52 "Always remember that the crowd that applauds your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People like a show." - Terry Pratchett
Great Quote.
John was suffering from PTSD well before he was given the mantle of being the "new Captain America", and managed to hide that from those that gave it to him (or they knew and didn't care). The serum amplifies more than just the physical aspects of the recipient, and John's mind/persona was just as effected, like other recipients.
Yea I agree Walker Had PTSD. Before taking the Serum. That Comes out in different ways the first few episodes ...The Talk he and His Partner Had (Battlestar) When they talked about all the Lives that could have been saved that day? Or the Locker room. before he went out to Address the Crowd. You could see it Just In his Face. (Really his best friend and His Wife were the only 2 people who anchored him. From full on Losing, it sooner.
“Good becomes Great, Bad becomes Worse.”
-Erskine
"People often forget that the first country the Nazis invaded was their own." -Erskine
An increasingly relevant truth these days.
As for the shield, if you recall, in Civil War, Spiderman comments on how the shield doesn't follow the laws of physics. Sam is just learning to react to his own throws and the shield's actions from them, just as anyone else would have to. Vibranium is a "tricky" substance, and the interpretations of its capabilities has varied over the years.
It’s the lightest metal on earth if I’m not mistaken. So any adult human who’s physically fit should be able to throw it imo.
Well, it's the transfer of energy, or the lack of it, that makes Vibranium odd. The way it bounces off of multiple targets without any loss of energy is where the real questions start. A normal item would lose energy in both directions as the item thrown and the target hit would both cause the energy of the throw to drop with each hit. As it appears to work in the films, it doesn't lose any energy from the throw, but seems to still deliver it with hits (targets being knocked back or down), which is what makes it "not right". Unless the MCU rationalizes that Vibranium has a "battery like" ability to "store" the energy applied (throwing) without losing any of it on contact (hitting targets) until someone or something literally grabs/stops it (allowing it to disperse/discharge from being at rest).
Anyway, even the basic science of this is over my head and only guesses at best.
@@dominiksain7529 Stronger than steel and three times lighter , Howard Stark said something like that in the first one.
Yea the Vibranium can absorb and project the Energy. Seem's Even Kinetic energy from the First thing the Shield hit's It ricochets with equal or more force. (Plus, Walker Had to Train with it. as a 'Normal' guy) Sam Use's it in Creative ways.
Also, Clark Griswold coated it in his Non-nutritive Cereal Varnish, so it's hella slippery.
You could tell at the end of Endgame that Bucky knew Steve was not coming back by the conversation the had before Steve left when Bucky said I'm gonna miss you.
Yep, a lot of people seem to miss this.
You got to remember, Vibranium is super light and strong. The sheild doesn't weigh the same as if it was made out of other metal. Anyone could throw it. The trick is getting the angles. It absorbs kinetic energy and kind of puts it into the shield, which is why it bounces like a rubber ball. Steve did it effortlessly because his mind could calculate the angles almost instantly due to the serum. But anybody who trains would be able to use it.
The Raft is the prison from Civil War. Cap broke Sam, Wanda, Clint and Scott out of it.
No, Cap didn't break out Clint or Scott, that's why they were on house arrest by the time the Infinity War/Endgame cycle happened. They didn't want to live on the run, they wanted the chance to still be with their families.
Natasha breaks them out.
Also, ya know how we already knew that Steve told Bucky his plan move on?
At the end of Endgame, when Buck tells Steve that he's taking all the stupid with him. They hug, and Bucky says "I'm gonna miss you"
Nailed it.
For sure....The way they said Goodbye in End Game. It was not a ''See you in 5 min's''.- That was the ''Just in case I never see you again''. Type of Goodbye. Like when - Bucky went on Tour. WW-2 .
So Isaiah Bradley's monologue about what happened to him is based on a very horrific event that happened. It's called the "Tuskegee Experiment." I would definitely google all about it. The OTHER thing to mention about Isaiah's monologue is he did the EXACT same thing Steve did in the first Captain America move: He disobeyed orders to go save his fellow men in the military. However, they jailed Isaiah BUT they made Steve a hero. That's the big message I think they were trying to portray in the epic monologue.
The obvious racial element aside, the biggest difference is that Steve disobeyed orders but saved hundreds of men. Isaiah saved a few guys who wound up dying anyway. Most important, Isaiah risked exposing the unethical government program that created him. Remember the military brass wanted to destroy the entire base, just to hide the evidence of their program that experimented upon all those African-American soldiers. So the people in power he almost ruined, retaliated by sending him to prison.
The shield being made out of vibranium is what allows it to bounce back. It's how Walker could use it prior to taking the serum.
The shield throwing, in comic canon can be learned by anyone, it's vibranium so it's not very heavy and it's perfectly rigid so it returns 100 percent of its energy, so it bounces back at the same speed thrown, it's a crazy fictional metal for sure lol
In the comics the serum not only amplifies a person's physical abilities but also their intellectual abilities. That's why Cap was a master strategist and able to calculate trajectories of the shield on the fly so whenever he threw it it would ricochet back to him.
That only applies to The Ultimates universe not main 616.
@BXBATMAN No, it applies to 616 also,
"Peak Human Mental Processing: Rogers' mental performance is greatly enhanced to the highest limits of human potential, allowing it to operate in the most advanced and rapid manner possible. His mind also processes information quickly, giving him an accelerated learning aptitude; for example, Beast once stated that Rogers can learn and master any weapon within seconds. He possesses an eidetic/photographic memory and perfect recall, meaning he never forgets what he sees and experiences, paired with the ability to speed read, and can thereby intuitively understand what's likely going to happen and how best to deal with it. This enables him to remember any military tactic and apply it to any situation.
Master Shield Fighter: Rogers' years of training and experience with his unique shield, as well as its physical properties, allowing him to accomplish amazing feats with the item. Aside from bashing foes and blocking incoming attacks he is able to throw it with nearly perfect aim, being able to estimate its hit and rebounding return virtually to the millimeter.[218] Rogers can hit multiple targets with the same throw by means of ricochet, and could even achieve a boomerang-like return effect, allowing him to strike enemies from behind or retrieve the shield without objects to ricochet from."
Steve also has a photographic memory in the comics. If we are listing little known “super powers” from the comics.
@@BXBATMAN Not just in The Ultimates. Applies to 616 as well.
@ sorry it really does not.
Did anyone else realize Sam and Peter did the same thing? Sam gave away the shield and Peter gave away Tony’s glasses. I just thought of that today!
Never thought of that!
The only issue is, Sam gave it to the Govt, and Peter gave it to an unhinged Villain 😢
@@Shap0o.PlayZz you say that as if theres a large difference ( govt / villain )
@@rp8pi there's supposed to be 🤷🏻♂️😭😭 but sadly 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The heart shaped herb garden was burned by killmonger in black panther. There’s none to share with Sam (or pass on to future Black Panthers)…not that they would since it’s reserved for those elected as the Black Panther
The comics version of Zemo was that he was the leader of the Masters of Evil, who fought against the Avengers. Since these stories were written in the early 1960's, Steve's freezing was to explain why he disappeared after the war, in order to be brought back, rather than to explain the 70 year gap. Heinrich Zemo was a major baddie, and although he did not appear in the comics in the 1940's (during the war), it was explained that he and Cap had battled it out during WWII when he showed up in the 60s. Zemo was credited with killing Bucky during the war, as Bucky was a young teenaged sidekick for the comics, and not a contemporary best friend. Zemo wore a purple head covering, and the original explanation was that Adhesive X prevented him from removing it. (It was an experimental adhesive, and the hood was stuck to his head.). Eventually, after not using him for a while, they brought his character back, but in the form of the original Zemo's son, Helmut Zemo. He went on to form the Thunderbolts, who temporarily replaced the Avengers, when they disappeared for a year. They were all former villains who had similar powers and dressed as the missing heroes, attempting to rehabilitate their criminal personas, not realizing it was Zemo leading them as Citizen V. The MCU tends to change things, because they don't have to come up with a story once a month and keep characters around, so there are obvious differences.
"Friendship! ...will always! ...prevail!"
You're my favorite reactor ❤
According to Dr. Erskine in Captain America 1
"The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse."
Weird bit of info, but Torres who actually takes over the falcon mantle in the comics, he actually looks just like this actor in the show. P.s in the comics, I think black widow had some toned down version of the serum.
I believe Black Widow did take a version of the super soldier serum in the comics, and was actually about as old as Steve Rogers, but in the MCU, she's not even old enough to have been in the KGB.
In the comics she was a little girl in WWII, where she first met both Captain America and Wolverine. She also took the Russian version of the super solder serum in the comics.
Yeah in the comics Natasha got a Russian version of the serum, while Bucky had no serum during his entire time as the Winter Soldier. In the MCU Natasha doesn't have any serum, just training.
What makes this show so good to me and so many others from what I have heard is the struggle of not believing in yourself or being worthy. That’s the same feeling we get in Thor when he can’t lift the hammer and finding out what Odin is trying to teach him. Steve eventually picking up Mjornir. Sam doesn’t feel like he’s worthy to be the next Cap and the real fans understand that it can’t be Bucky with what he is going through mentally. Sam is the rightful choice and the whole time people that believe in him are disappointed that he can’t see what everyone else sees. Sometimes it takes outside opinion to help prove to yourself that you were worthy of something the whole time.
23:56 You seem to have forgotten that the Wakandan Heart-Shaped Herb, which gives Black Panther his super soldier abilities, was all burned away by Killmonger. King T'Challa, the Black Panther, got the last one which Nakia quickly stole before it was all burnt away. Its what saved T'Challa's life
Shuri being a genius also was able to create a near perfect replica, which also took her to see the last Black Panther... or as it was in her case... Killmonger. BP2 was such an underrated gem. People just hate on stupid things.
steve didnt throw the shield good because he was strong, he was just skilled. thats how john was able to use it before he took the serum. its not heavy and doesnt require strength, just skill to use.
it is made of vibranium which absorbs an friction and resistant energy allowing it to cut through the air like butter, so it doesnt need great strength only skill to use. thats how sam is able to use it, alot of your confusion is because you dont understand the powers. also you cannot take more serum to get more powers, it doesnt work like that, if you take x3 recommended dose of medicine, it will have no benefit or possibly have negative effects
I really just love how much you love the show. Glad to see some ppl can still just enjoy the fun of Marvel
2:18 Erskine to Steve Rogers:
,,The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great.
Bad becomes worse.
This is why you were chosen.
Because a strong man who has known power all his life may lose respect for that power,
but a weak man knows the value of strength. And knows compassion."
So yes. Power (the serum) makes you more who you are in this history.
13:11 to answer your question about plants, yes! Watering them with daylight causes their leaves and such get burned with the sun rays
Loving that you are enjoying this series. It’s so good. And Bucky actually DID have the shield at one point in the comic books! So cool! 🇺🇸
Yes it's better to water plants at night so that evaporation is reduced, ensuring the roots absorb more water efficiently. During the day you'll waste part of it and they might still be thirsty.
A whole bunch of people have been Captain America for varying periods of time when Steve either hung up the mantle or died temporarily in the comics. At least four of those people are in this show.
Doesn't seem anyone has mentioned, so yeah, watering plants at night lets the plants soak up the water without worrying about it evaporating in the heat of the sun.
@8:49-9:09
I only saw a few episodes of Veep (Season One). But, I will forever know Julia-Louis Dreyfuss as Elaina from Seinfeld.
Isaiah Bradley is just as old as Steve and Bucky without ever being frozen.
Dr. Erskine said that the treatment amplified what was already there so good became great and bad became worse depending where a person was at physically, emotionally and mentally. Which is how they came up with Red Skull's actual appearance in the MCU. 😮
I agree, the show was awesome. I also agree that the cliffhangers are epic, lol. I think they did a really good job on rebranding Cap, by delving more into the story of creating the super soldiers and the serum, and of course how the serum affects people differently based on their attributes and the type of serum they took.
"He has a good head on his shoulders."
Too bad about the other guy, hmm?
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The shield that the government gave to Steve Rogers in WWII was destroyed by Thanos. Steve came back from his journey with a new shield, which he didn't have when he left. (He left with Mjonir, and came back with a shield.
HUGE plot hole that they have yet to explain.
@@bryce253Steve spent potentially fifty years in an alternate universe with the advantage of knowing Hydra was going to try and rebuild, so potentially took care of that early. So they had fifty years to build up to prepare for aliens, ally with Wakanda etc. Not too much of a stretch to assume he asked them for a spare shield to take back to the original universe when he “retired”.
There are a lot of characters in this which will crop up later in the MCU story glad your enjoying it, Jax and Lamby. ❤
22:36 the shield is actually extremely light weight and the way it’s shaped is made so that it always goes back to where it was thrown any normal human can throw it effectively Clint did it in age of ultron but of course Sam isn’t able to throw it as strong as Steve but doesn’t need to be to throw it effectively
Marvel comics has canonically listed Cap's shield at either 10 or 12 pounds over the decades.
That, on top of it defying the laws of physics, makes it formidable in the hands of Olympic-level atheletes like Walker or Sam.
Naturally, a super-soldier just hits harder, farther and faster.
Yep. Of course the comic book shield isn't pure vibranium, it's a vastly stronger alloy of vibranium and steel called proto-adamantiun, which has never been successfully duplicated.
I loved that the 1st thing Sam does is clean the shield
The shield does not obey the laws of physics as Tony Stark previously said. thats why it bounces then comes back it has nothing to do with strength.
That fight scene reminds me of Captain America Civil War. Also Merry Christmas Jax 🎄🎄🎄🎄. Best Christmas Present Ever.
The serum amplifies power…and that is dangerous. Erskin explained what the serum does…but it was Uncle Ben who best explained what someone with the serum needs. With Great Power comes…well, you know the line.
What it truly means is someone who has taken the serum needs Great Restraint. Sometimes you have to hold back, because that punch can do more than hurt…it can injure.
(And, out of the MCU, this applies to all forms of power…physical, economic, political…the effects of what you do with your power is amplified, so you have to use it with restraint…and, take responsibility for what you do, good or bad.)
This episode lays John Walker bare. When he’s attacking Sam and Bucky, he’s hitting with full force, screaming “Why are you making me do this???” No responsibility.
It also lays the government bare when Walker, rightfully, takes them to task. They take no responsibility either. And remember this as we wrap up the show, because the question of responsibility….this show takes a swing at saying how they can.
And then there’s Zemo, and idealist who has done horrible things for his ideal, but also someone who, so far as we have seen, has also not fought to avoid responsibility or punishment for his actions. It is an interesting comparison.
I LOVE this show for all its themes and deep questions. It’s not trying to be simple, and more shows need to be that.
He also has ptsd so that doesn't helpp
The “raft” is that prison under the sea in captain america civil war, under control of Everett Ross. Again another awesome reaction btw❤
Back in the 40s Bucky was quite a ladies' man. I think Sam recognized old instincts resurficing.
Jax you have an awesome talent for natural and intelligent conversations with the camera. What I love about TFAWS are the grassroot plotlines that can affect normal citizens. Remember a Super Soldier is the maximum performance of a human body, it isn't superhuman strength. Sam can do this.
“He’s a lovely villain, isn’t he?” HE ISSSSSS
8:48 That's not just Selina Meyer, the greatest V.P. in U.S. History; she's also Elaine Benes, the greatest dancer in Sitcom History.💃👍🦶
11:00 Lammy's Disciples will erect LambHenge in the Blessed One's honor, and we shall hold this place as Holy against all usurpers.🙏🐑
18:07 As a boat-builder, if the wood underneath is compromised, it doesn't take super-strength to pull up the fiberglass layer on top. 😉
Cheers and Happy Holidays to Jax and all her fans who like this show. Y'all are Solid Folk.👍✊
Merry Christmas, Jax! 🎁🎄🌨️🧑🎄⛄
25:17 look closer: he is hammering his medals into the Shield.
Vibranium is light so you don't need too much strength to throw the shield it mainly depends on the technique
Only Black Panther take Heart-shaped plant. Even if they wanted to, they couldn't give it to them because the killmonger burned all the plants to the ground. The beginning of this episode is my favorite scene, it's extremely good when they fight for the shield.
Remember the raft was the prison in the Sea. Steve went back for Bucky , Wanda ( capt America Civil War movie) Also that was a Statue to remember the Fallen ( The Flying City avengers, two age of Ultron) Sokovia!
In the comics, Torres inherits the wings and becomes Falcon when Sam gets a promotion.
10:55 That’s a monument for all the Sokovians who were killed by Ultron, not just Baron Zemo’s family.
Also, his comment about not killing Bucky is not a joke. Zemo is Marvel’s Batman - no super powers, wealthy, and a super genius. His plans work. If he wanted to kill Bucky, he’d die. It’s part of what he was doing in episode 3. He snooped in Bucky’s notebook and kept pushing him to see if Bucky is good enough a person to be allowed to live as a super soldier.
6:12 The Ulimate Grief and Regret on Bucky's Face here 😢😢
The raft is where Wanda, Hawkeye, Antman and Sam were held at the end of Civil War.
Yes you should water your plants at night that way most of the water doesn't evaporate In the Heat of the Sun
Glad you liked Valentina, she's got a big part in future phases.
I never had the impression that the super soldier serum affected anything else but the physical stats. Look at what all took place up to him getting the serum.
They way they explained why Walker was chosen as the candidate was all about his war record and physical aptitude - the same mistaken view that Col Phillips had in the original project. Doubtful they did any sort of personality and psych assessments on him- Walker already had signs of having an ego and an inferiority complex, and would react angrily if he was not given respect to his authority or got what he wanted. That was something he was likely already used to with his rank and record. Making him Cap WITHOUT having the power brought all those issues out. He was fine and dandy being the PR hero and getting all the respect and love... but he never got respect from Bucky and Sam, same with the normal Flag Smashers. That was bad enough, but once he had to go up against enhanced opponents, he was outclassed, and his ego couldn't take it. Then he thought he at least could deal with regular people and got trashed by the Dora Milaje (not realizing they might be normal, but had WAY more training and experience).
And all this was BEFORE the serum. Once he took it, the only thing that changed was his ability to win in a fight with an enhanced. Without the serum, Walker would still have wanted to kill a Flag Smasher to get revenge for Battlestar (but likely getting defeated or killed in the process)
Merry Christmas, Jax!
It's worth noting that in Marvel Comics from the 1960s to 2000s, both Steve Rogers and T'Challa were NOT superhuman. they were officially classified as "peak human". The super-soldier serum and heart-shaped herb both elevated people to the absolute upper limit of human physical ability, but not beyond that. So Steve and T'Challa were superior to the greatest Olympic athletes in history, able to lift 750-800 llbs overhead, bench press 1100-1200 lbs, and run at 30mph (for reference, the world's fastest Olympic sprinters might hit 22mph).
But in the MCU (which was partially based upon Marvel's "Ultimate" universe known as Earth-1610) the serum was more effective, turning people into low-level superhumans instead of just peak humans. That's why MCU Cap can lift 2-3 tons overhead and run at nearly 60mph. The serum being much more powerful in the Ultimate universe and MCU is why so many other storylines (even the Hulk's origin) revolved around attempts to replicate it.
Hello Jax!😊 You are correct. The doctor told Steve the serum makes someone more of what is inside them. The serum just amplifies what is already there. That is why Red Skull was the way he was. He was bad to begin with. Yep, if you rewatch Endgame it is clear Steve told Bucky that he planned on staying in the past. Maybe the metallic properties of the shield make it easier to throw? It is unlike any other metal on Earth. The episodes are going by faster. I was shocked that was the end already!🤯 Great reactions to another episode, Jax!!!!🎬👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!🎄1⃣
loved that you're enjoying the show..next is the Loki series..
Merry Christmas
Not a perfect soldier , but a good man. That is why Sam is the perfect successor to Steve as Captain America. Only if he got a better script.
Oh, that’s why I wanted to say Jax
Isaiah, was In prison ( remember Hydra was inside of Shield ) so they locked him away to experiment on him . The Red Room/Russia had Bucky and Hydra in shield had Bradley ) They wanted to recreate the same Serum . But even his super soldier serum was not as good as the original version. Steve was like a hundred years old when he was in Endgame before he was sent back to live another lifetime. When he gave Sam the Shield He would have been 150 or more years old. Bucky and Steve age way slower than the other “super soldier “ ( excluding the hulk who really didn’t do the same process and is immortal for the most part)
The fact that the super soldier serums after Steve were devised from the experimentations on Isaiah Bradley flies over the head of most people. Good job.
Watering plants at night can be better it dries up slower than at day time 😅
Power just amplifies what you are at your core, whether in this world or another. It makes it easier for you to do what you want, so your values are amplified because you can make them happen. Any kind of power does this, sexual power, physical power, social power, political power, etc., etc.
I'm sorry I almost forgot to greet LAMIE MERRY CHRISTMAS!, may she have the most clean and white fur FOREVER!!! KEEP SAFE AND HAPPY. GODBLESS YOU AND FAMILY, ALWAYS.
I'm new to your channel thankyou for welcoming me on a festive Christmas holiday ❤🎄 happy new year
Hello 👋🏻. You saw Val in the end credits scene for Black Widow. She gave a mission to Yelena
7:20 Or Maybe, Torres might become the next Falcon? U see previously in the show, he knew a thing or two, and he was trying to repair it 🤷🏻♂️💯
2:07
In my opinion i kinda agree but i also feel like power could either corrupt our innerselves or improve our innerselves
What you miss in not being a comic reader or knowing the stories outside of the MCU is that Captain America is strong but he is not crazy super strong. Movies tend to make things bigger for entertainment affect. In the comics he is strong but he is what we would call peak human condition. The super soldier serum is sort of blown out of proportion in the MCU. Also the story is about heroes don't need things like the serum to make them heroes. This has also been an issue in the comics. In DC heroes were gods amongst men like Wonder Woman and Superman. In Marvel it is about regular people being given great powers and having great responsibility. Modern comic writers have been going against the comics of the past saying the power is not what makes you great or a hero. It should be about the person. Heroes are all around us in our everyday lives. We just don't look for them without the cape or the flashy powers. It is an interesting delimma but the super soldier serum is only making the characters the peak of what they would be as humans. Black Widow is suppose to have a version of it in her but nothing was as perfectly made as the one Steve had but Steve was about the person he was not the serum. The MCU has gone its own way but the issue is still there.
At least one person out here still gets it. Well done. 😊
you have really good level-headed takes
I still think the training montage should have come before Sam talked with Bucky towards the end.
As usual, love, love, love your reactions (one of my fave will always be when you say "mmmm" 😄😄)!!! It is one of Marvel's best series!! Can't wait to see your reaction to the finale. I had mixed emotions about it but you tend to bring out the best in your reactions that may have me looking at it with a different lens!! Stay sweet!!!
This episode is the heart of this series.
Thanks for the Xmas gift!!
The shields behaviour is mostly due to what it was made of & training. Steve would have held back lots of times, you see Bucky can throw hard enough to stick in a tree. Sam can’t do that. Fake Caps Shield will be weaker & heavier, so thrown by a super soldier will pack a hefty blow, more than Sam can do, but Sam’s is Vibranium so will fly better & much harder to damage.
As much as it bothers me to see normals throw it at all let alone with force because of how unnatural the motion would be, what bothered me the most was when Sam would catch it like nothing. It would shatter a non-super soldier's arm in a second.
3:59 Your Christmas wish will be fulfilled.
Why do people question Sam throwing the shield, but no questions for pre-serum John Walker?🤔
Jax is the only one i heard reference julia luis dreyfuss from veep and not Seinfeld lol
Good point about Sam and the shield. 🤔
Finding out youve already seen daredevil show is awesome! I cant wait for you to react to new Daredevil season!
Honestly, I would watch a season of "Bucky & Sam fix a boat"
Hello Jax, Im a fan from Spain my name is Alex.
First of all, love your content, I think your one of the best channels on youtube that does reactions to movies.
Secondly, if you want to make a different kind of reaction to a Spanish movie, I highly recommend reacting to Mortadelo and Filemon: Mission Implausible.
It's based on a Spanish comic that has been relevant for over 10 years. It was translated into German, French, and a few into English. It's a very fun animated movie with lots of slapstick humor and wild antics, I think you'd love it!
Hope you see it :D
Love the reaction Jax
Vibraniun is light Tony daughter could play with it
Merry Christmas Jax!!
People must be terrified of fighting Bucky incase they punch winter soldier back into operation 😂😂
22:42 Well, Sam now has to do a different training, she can't be like Steve (obviously he is superior in strength, speed and endurance), she can't be like Natasha either (she had a special combat training since she was a child) that makes her superior to an average soldier. Sam was a soldier too but his training was oriented to flight (use of his wings), not so much to hand-to-hand combat, that's what he has to train now (with the shield as a weapon and support)
I think the serum amplifies everything so if your a bit horrible you become a lot horrible. Steve was unique so he went from a lot good to a lot great.
Yes you are right, John Walker IS becoming a villain. And yes, this villain IS in the comics. But I'm getting into spoiler territory, so that's all I'll say about that. But seeing your reaction when Sam was.looking in the briefcase was....PRICELESS!! I had the same reaction when I saw it for the first time O.G. run.
One last thing, Episode Six reveals all your questions and IS the series finale, and sets up Brave New World...hint hint.
4:37 See that, He is Clearly Unhinged 😢😅
Cannot WAIT till you get to next episode.. and also the Black Widow movie for more of the Veep ;)
The interaction about "Why didn't you use the metal arm?" Is a metaphor for privilege and not realizing when you have it.
From Sweden to Jax Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa. Stay amasing and be a good girl 😉🎅👼🤶💛💙
Other people have thrown the Shield without powers.
Tossing in a non Marvel factoid. 13:09 watering plants at night had less surface evaporation so more water is absorbed into the plants and Earth. Also, Elaine's work history going from bad dancing at the J Peterman catalog to shadow government agency is a good one. :)