The Anthony Joshua Debate
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3 idiots debate Anthony Joshua and his defeat to Daniel Dubois, What does he and Eddie Hearn do now?
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30 seconds into the video, and there's already arguing. That's why I love this pods keep it up lads
real funny guys, time to stop with the AI videos we know those voices can’t match 😂
Dubois really did sort of look like a giant version of Mike Tyson in there.
Johnny B did predict it, he just felt pressured by you guys
Soft
Found Johnny Bs Burner account
He cost me £40 so he’s finished
XD
same lol
💯 😅
Try £240 for me 😅
haha, for me it was a tenner on dubious within 7 bosch....... £80
First time ive put a face to the voice , i assumed you was late 50s/60 😂
Lol 100% me too 😂
I never thought he was that old lol but I didn't expect him to look like that.
Idk what I expected him to look like tbh 😂
Rounder!
The 3 of em... the other wk when they showed their heads, l was going..naa that ain't them!!
I seriously thought it was a few guys in their 40s or 50s. Not early 30s. 😆
No hate - I’m 46.
I think everyone did 🤣
They look like typical labourers who regularly go to Spain and get pissed up and sound like it as well 🤣
No defence, hands too low, poor footwork, terrible performance from AJ. I didn’t know Dubios had that in him, never seen anything like that from him before. Shane McGuigan was spot on.
Johnny B deserves more credit, he basically said he thinks Aj would win but that at the end of the day it was a toss up, and that Dan had a fair chance and the other redaculed him! Now the bastard on the right is acting like that never happened and that he was just as wrong as both of them. Smh. Justice for Johnny
Predicting the outcome of heavyweight boxing has made a fool out of all of us over the years. Great fight and can't wait for Bivol vs Beterbiev.
Same I don’t follow either of them so I’m assuming it’ll be 50/50 lol
Beterbiev knocks out Bivol in 60 seconds, lets go.
@@UltizerHahahaha!!
Naa mate, not rnd 1... surely!!
Good fight though!!
@@UltizerPut the crack pipe down mush. Bivol on points.
Usyk beats Fury = Dubois v Usyk
Finally, we get Joshua v Fury , then possibly both Fury and Joshua retire
No shot, Dubois vs Parker, then winner vs Usyk/Fury winner. Otherwise we'd be waiting ages for Dubois to get back in a ring, needs to stay active.
I want to see one more fight for Dubois first. I think 1-2 fights and he will be ready.
I've notice Dubois team always come in with great gameplans going for the body against Usyk was the best chance, here constant pressure never letting AJ get settled. Using Hrgovic poor stamina to gas him out for the 8th round stoppage.
I think this again shows that activity is very important look at the development Dubois has gone through and he's had 4 fights in 18 months. I think it could be a smart move to fight Parker and then the winner of Usyk vs Fury. Keeping up the activity will be useful against guys who fight once a year, especially against a great experienced boxer with a unique style. Interesting fact James Braddock The Cinderella Man, was considered retired in the 1930s because he didn't fight for 9 months, they thought he'd never be able to compete at a top level again because of that extended time off.
Hope the mug on the right has sobered up a bit since last time, he was talking bollllllocks
He addresses it
@@bevan2342he needs to, was talking mad shit. After beating a wrestler 😂
@@bevan2342 humble of him, fair play ✊🏼
Haha
Ikr, I legit had to skip through the parts where he was talking. It was bad.
This is going to sound weird..but the way AJ has been speaking and acting the last couple of years it’s like he’s trapped in a permanent concussion. Something’s not 100% up there methinks.
Could be... He does seem to get more and more bizarre.
But on the other hand think he's a nasty piece of work who struggles to hide it. He's always acting when he's in public.
He's got far too many hangers-on. Although they might be eyeing up DD as their next victim.
I'm glad you picked up on it. I noticed it too ever since BEFORE, the Ruiz fight. Even in the Ruiz fight, if you watch the ring walk, he looked just like he looked in the ring walk to this fight. I think there is some form of neurological damage going on, which also explains his timidness.
Identity crisis maybe?
@@jjsaviorthe copes unreal😂
Mate people have zero memory. How is AJ the biggest hypejob ever. 😂
As soon as someone loses everyone acts like they were never even that good.
If everyone is a hypejob, how would beating them even prove anything?
Who's AJs best win?
Joshua is good a solid top 10 if not 5 but he has always been managed well. He just doesn’t have natural ring IQ and it’s his biggest downfall.
Fight folk definitely are a fickle bunch
AJ is a mid-tier heavyweight. He isn't as dedicated or driven as some of the others. AJ's mentality is his biggest enemy, he thinks himself into a hole and can't climb out.
100% I thought AJ looked like he was going in for a Spar with a newbie, super nonchalant hands down head up. thinking he gonna throw some flick punches and move around and dodge everything until that punch rocked him in the first and brought him back to reality XD
It was the commentator who first mentioned he looked like a young Mike Tyson
I usually get these right but couldn't see Dubois improving that much and Joshua fighting like he was in a trance. Hands down by him waist, chin in the air, going back in straight lines, no effective defence. He over thought it and froze got bashed and the gameplan disappeared.
The clock in the background says 1:30 and the lamp is on so I presume it's early hours of the morning how the hell do you all sound so sober I'm usually talk s%@t in the kitchen at that time 😂
Good fight! We just need Conor McGregor out of camera shot
It was an bad fight from AJ, his hands were low, he couldn't seem to defend a left cross and he looked out of his depth!!
Once he staggered after that first hit he couldn't recover and it knocked his mental confidence and stamina too.
Bosh.
Give me AJ Vs Wilder and Dubois Vs Parker
First time actually seeing 'Propa Boxing' creator on camera and i'm propa shocked.... From his brilliant voice and narrative I thought he'd be a mid 50's East End geezer who had a comedy night going on down the local club.
Great podcast again lads.
Gotta say I'm not surprised with the result,in my opinion AJ is the very definition of a flat track bully,the minute he's cracked he just seems to fold.
He's done..
Got to say boys,the shot AJ caught DD with couldn't have been full power,he was concussed from the end of round one surely?? Love the channel/pod thanks boys👏🏻👏🏻
I won 190 so I’m happy lol… Anyway Daniel also had the ref against him, the maturity level of him to ignore the ref and just stick to his plan, without complaining I thought was also impressive, he also seemed more exp than AJ, when he stumbled from AJ shot many guys would of stood and banged but he backed off to clear his head and got AJ to come at him, very impressed, 2026 DDD vs Itauma for undisputed I reckon
There is no shame in loosing but if you claim to be the greatest and at the same time cherry picking easy fights it is karma that you get KO and humiliated in front of the whole world.
There's shame in spelling losing, loosing though.
I think this again shows that activity is very important look at the development Dubois has gone through and he's had 4 fights in 18 months. I think it could be a smart move to fight Parker and then the winner of Usyk vs Fury. Keeping up the activity will be useful against guys who fight once a year, especially against a great experienced boxer with a unique style. Interesting fact James Braddock The Cinderella Man, was considered retired in the 1930s because he didn't fight for 9 months, they thought he'd never be able to compete at a top level again because of that extended time off.
The British border has better defence than aj
The master debaters, at it again....😅🥊
Sterep in boys
Wtf I finally know what proppa looks like!! Didn’t expect that! Thought he’d be older and bald for some reason 😂
Everyone before this questioned his heart, now we're questioning his skills?
That's exactly what I thought? Ben Davidson didn't tell AJ to just throw the uppercut from distance? Like many have been claiming online?
It appears to me like there's a narrative being pushed, where Ben Davidson is being thrown under the bus, in a desperate attempt to take the blame away from AJ. For obvious reasons? It's what promoters do.
Come on propa, dubois dominated the first round before the knock down, joshua just couldn't cope with the speed, power and pressure
AJ corner was like a Sunday morning
DDD was more like a charged on Sat night
Joshua's hand speed has always been around average. His foot speed and leg power has always been top notch. He can throw fast shots but only when He uses His legs and His body weight to step forward with it. He's basically a back foot counter puncher that is comfortable holding a spot in the ring firing jabs from a safe distance to land and like space to be able to lunge into a shot. Hurt You then follow up with a combination. Because, trading has never been a strong point. DDD had enough foot speed to keep up and He had better hand speed and tighter punches He came in and threw looping shots and hooks and short right hands with a great jab upon entry. It was the perfect way to fight AJ. Also DDD pivoted with His shots creating angles on an already open defence.
Y'all know it's gonna be Dubois v Parker next! 💯❤️👊👊
All I could think about during the fight was about Johnny B being right on the money about DDD, and getting cajoled into picking AJ by you other two. I heard that exact conversation so many times in the run-up to the fight.
First time seeing your faces. Funny that I thought you guys were in your fifties and there about 😅
Love the show! And the vids. And that Dubois won 🤘🏼
Dubious done a demolition job on AJ but like you say styles make fights and heavyweight fights is the division we’re the massive upsets happen any heavyweight can knock out any heavyweight that’s why it’s the biggest most popular division in boxing and they get paid the biggest purses. AJ getting beat is not the biggest shock is the way he got beat. Only thing AJ can take from the fight is he didn’t win the worse performance of the night that went to Liam Gallagher 😂😂
I'm with Johnny B, on this one! He did want to pick Dubois? And you guys did lean on him to go with AJ?
16:32 Agreed, nobody is talking about how shocking the ref was to not call that knockdown when AJ’s gloves hit the canvas. After Fury-Usyk absolutely everyone was laying into the ref, but in this fight there was more than enough reason to have a go at the ref for letting AJ take 5 unnecessary hits, yet nobody’s saying diddly squat.
Again terrible refereeing in favour of the cash cow fighter. It's in plain sight on most cards and nothing gets said or done because it's corrupt. Either corrupt or incompetence at the highest level. But these officials rarely get held account so it can only be corruption
Should have been 6 knock downs
Propa )The face don't match the voice vice verse lol😅
Ruiz, Wilder, Dillain, Big Baby. If AJ still wants to fight, throw them at him.
Quality as always lads! What a fight. Big up Turki!
Was Ben Davison ever decent? He turned Fury around for one fight...but what else?
He’s got half the best fighters in the Uk on his roster currently.
What do you want Ben Davison to do get in and fight Dubois on his behalf because AJ can't be arsed to take a championship fight seriously. It probably would of been more competitive if he did 😂
Could he not have also taken a timeout when he got banged with that low blow?
Propa looks like fucking Shane Gillis LMAO
Might aswell change name of the channel to Propa Aj fanclub haha
Didn't understand the Dubois right off, who was AJ fighting over the last few years, Hearn picked Easy's...don't recant...lol!...Hearn milked his cashcow to the max, until a step to far.
Aj fought like a mummy at times too I found and honestly if he had a coach to help him develop his speed game and not fight flat footed either he would be more explosive
If Dubois and Usyk hadn't already fought, everyone would be saying that Dubois is the guy to overwhelm Usyk with his size, strength and aggression. No one touches Usyk in this generation
Dubois probably would. He improved massively since Usyk beat him last time
I hear the complaining about the ref not stepping in for the knockdown, the ref during Fury v Usyk was criticised for stepping in for a knockdown. Did you guys criticise that ref too? I don't remember.
If anything the ref should have called a knocked down earlier against Fury , the ropes held him up 2 or 3 times before the ref gave a standing 8.
The 3 old men wearing teenagers masks are back
"Spider sense" ... see the one in the middle is a Tom Holland look a like that you can rent for party's & Bar Mitzvahs 🕷🕸
I swear the guy at 13:02 is from The Chase
😂😂😂
I want AJ Wilder next. Let's just get it over it. IMAGINE is Wilder somehow lands on AJ with intent with AJ's current chin. That fight is pure shenanigans, I'd love it.
The guy on the far right was the worst in terms of giving dubois no chance he literally said that if dubois starts off aggressive it would play into aj favor and that dubois would get knocked out
I wanna see
AJ vs Chisora.
Chisora Vs Wilder.
Dubios Vs Parker
Fury vs Big bang.
Abel Sanchez would be the right trainer for Joshua.
Uncle Propa! Even more handsome than I thought you'd be! Propa r'ansum! 😂
Dubois should call out Wilder, next biggest payday (to Fury and Usyk). Wilder won’t take it.
AJ v Wilder. Loser is boxings biggest hypejob
This was the best hour of boxing discussion I have watched, great work boys.
Uncle proper doesn’t have the fave I thought he would have
That voice comes out of that face? 😂 I pictured this guy as a 60 year old 18 stone grizzled London cab driver not a young Damon Albarn!
I think Wilder takes the cake for biggest hype job still.
Hindsights a wonderful thing
What I don't understand is why Joshua didn't establish the jab, he had a 4" reach advantage, if Joe slow as molasses Joyce can pepper his noggin all night with the jab then why didn't AJ? Dubios guard is wide/v-shaped, he could have punched through the middle of it all day. I said for months that the the jab and big rights are there all night for AJ along with the uppercut but I forgot about how AJ reacts when hit , he goes into his shell , guard high. Survival mode, can't think straight when pressures being applied.
Definitely better against Joshua , had 4 fights with Don Charles now. Taught him some of that Chisora style come forward pressure. Difference is Dubois hits harder and cleaner than Chisora and his Jab is a weapon. Also seems to have a new found belief in himself.
The body builder vs the Gypsy sausage is the next fight!
such a small mouth for a loud voice well played doing well sunshine
Loving the success gents! 30:31 bang on. I remember staying up and eventually falling asleep 5 mins into Wlad vs Ibragimov - this heavyweight shoot-out is great viewing
A lesson in not throwing the uppercut from two far away. Reminded me of Buster Douglas against Holyfield
You all basically repeated what I have been saying. So obviously spot on 🤣
17:00 yeah i agree. Poor referree there, missing the gloves touching the floor and letting Dubois tee off.
Then the wrong hand signal for the slip, making it as if the fight was waved off. Maybe the guy was as shocked as everyone else.
Love the new format lads
Big Fury Fan BUTT - I still think AJ has Fury’s number. I just think Aj mentally goes into that fight all or nothing. I still want to see that fight.
Joshua v wilder 1000000000% next step for both of them
The Dubious one seemed to mirror Ryan Garcia and Connor Benn with his incredible transformation to world beater??
Two frauds together Davison a top trainer , and AJ from the streets
How is Ben Davison getting no flack? He as a trainer was god awful, because like was said, AJ was out there like he was surprised. What did Ben tell him? He was just going to be walking down Dubois? Like he was nothing? Because thats how it looked.... and AJ said he was ready to go in the deep, no he wasn't, if he was, he would have had his hands up... wtf was that...
16:45 Having re-watched the fight, and seeing the knockdowns from several angles, I think the referee called that touch down as a push. If you watch it carefully, AJ tries to duck under Dubois's shots and Dubois leans down on him which causes AJ's gloves to touch. Not saying I agree, but I can see why the ref ruled it as a NO knock down.
Listen John b with know it .
Just let them fight .
Turkey will make it happen.
Best from the best .jb true.
Get them together. Just fuck that you know the score
Not saying he should retire, I’d say if I was him I’d retire, he’s loaded why would you put yourself in the firing line again
This is the third one this. Move along .Southern c u next tuesday
A random question lads , Hrgavic said if Daniel beat him he would retire , has anyone got any news on him ?.
Davison hasnt fought, and thats the issue. He doesn't havebthat deep understanding
Has he developed anyone in to a champion or, just taken in already established guys...
I put this video on full volume, now my neighbors think I'm having a party. I'm gonna have to disappoint them🍭
Joshua fought like he he knew he was gonna lose, but didn’t want it to look like he was trying. Anyone that’s sparred someone better in the gym may know what I mean. You kinda go through the motions, but don’t go all out because you don’t want to totally embarass yourself. You want a built in excuse because at least WHEN you lose, people may say “well that was just a casual easy spar session, it wasn’t a real fight”.
I honestly expected these guys to look like the four lads in jeans.
The only thing i called right about AJ vs Dubious, is that Dubious would land the best early shot. I however also said joshua would then realize he is in a fight and come back and win easily within 3-4 rounds.
I watched the fight and thought AJ looked like an old man against Dubois every punch he was throwing looked ponderous and telegraphed. Congrat's to Dubois his jab was spectacular his performance was superb and everything flowed because of that great jab. I would love to see Bakole given a chance to fight the bigger names in the division because everyone seems to be swerving him at the moment.
I used to like this podcast until I was able to see your face now it just throws me off cause it doesn’t match your voice it’s weird
Daniel Dubois is great at what he does, but he only does and only can do one thing. It doesn’t matter who trains Joshua for the rematch. If Joshua actually believes he’s the big man in that ring, he can win. If he doesn’t, he can’t. And he doesn’t. So he won’t. It’s literally as simple as that.
Daniel Dubois is great at what he does, but he only does and only can do one thing. It doesn’t matter who trains Joshua for the rematch. If Joshua actually believes he’s the big man in that ring, he can win. If he doesn’t, he can’t. And he doesn’t. So he won’t. It’s literally as simple as that.
Full credit to Dubois, I agree that he made AJ look terrible - that jab was on point and he was on him from the opening bell. I really thought AJ would steam roll him… how wrong I was
i still think joshua lost that fight as opposed to dubois winning it,i still dont rate dubois
Bakole Will beat Dubois