SAS-12 - Collapsible Pistol Grip Stock from Mossberg 500 Installed!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Quick video to show how one of my SAS-12's look with the addition of a Mossberg 500 6-position collapsible pistol grip stock. I have a few other things in the works for these shotguns. The SAS-12 in this video with the collapsible stock also has a refinished receiver for a cleaner look. These are great shotguns with tons of potential!
Centerfire Systems now offers these in a 24" model AND a new 26" model. You can also select whether you want brown or black furniture on the newer 26 inch models. Both of the ones in this video are the original 24" models. Thanks for watching!
Camera used: Sony A58
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I just ordered one can't wait to watch your build video
Always wanted a semi auto shotty the top one is clean🔥🔥🔥
These are great shotguns for the price, for sure. If price is not important, there are better options, like Saiga 12's and similar shotguns, but these are great. Some of them require a little bit of fine-tuning (similar to Saiga 12's), but they end up running very well with all types of ammo if you do a few small things at home to improve them. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I do my best to reply to comments. Thanks for watching!
I like to do more with less💪
I enjoy cheap solid guns that go bang every time you pull the trigger. These, M57 pistols, M70A, M88A, Hatfield single shot 12 gauges that you can get at Wal-Mart for $99.00. Very easy to build a cheap arsenal.
That's pretty slick, I dig it.
Appreciate your hard work keep it up
When you do that 6inch cut will it still be legal
306jah 18 inches is legal length. I will probably go 18.5"
president really beautiful shotgun mossberg shotgun excellent alot of fun shooting there great excited everyshoot perfict fantastic have nice day ^^^^
Can the barrel be replaced with a commercially available replacement (mossberg 500 barrel) instead of cutting it down yourself?
You would have to find a compatible barrel. The price of a complete SAS-12 ($139) is cheaper than some replacement barrels. Mossberg 500 barrel does not have the gas port or anything you would need for semi auto function, though, even if it would fit. Better off picking up a complete spare gun for $139 and youll have a spare barrel, trigger group, extractor, bolt, extra mags, etc.
I wonder if the gas port will need to be opened up when you take the barrel down to 18inches.
cletussd I'm assuming it will but it may not need it. there will still be a decent amount of barrel past the port for pressure. it's not a big deal either way, though. eventually I'm going to shorten one even further and chop the entire gas system down as well.
KC Ghostt how did the 18 in barrel turn out
Looks great for a $150 gun including upgrades.
Nice I'm thing about getting one ????!!! Are they worth getting ??!!??
Absolutely. I own 3 of the original 24" models they sell. They have all ran reliably right out of the box with good defense ammo like buckshot and slugs. For about $180 in my hands, I have no complaints or regrets. There is a lot you can do to these guns. Follow this thread over on AKFiles to see what a few other people are doing to them: www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312289
hi, I just used the same pistol grip as yours and can't stand that gap, heard ya say you had something in the works and figured I'd compare notes. I was going to use that j b weld putty and stuff it in the gap after covering the grip and gun in plastic wrap. Then file and sand the rough spots smooth and paint black to make a filler. What were your plans? I'd rather not make that much of a mess but I know it will work so I was hoping you had a better idea?
Hey Walter, dont use JB Weld unless this is going to be permanent and even still I would not use it. Instead use some Bondo All Purpose Putty. Its just like Bondo Body Filler but this is not as heavy. It can be used to repair just about anything as well as filling gaps and cracks, or fabricating parts. Ive used this stuff on a couple of guns to fill in some gaps and it works great. You can also sand it down real easy if you use too much to get the perfect fit. I dont know what a gunsmith would say about this but you can get a quart of this stuff for around $15 at your local home improvement store like Lowe's or Home Depot. If you dont have one of those Amazon has it as well.
I'm messing around with a 3D printed adapter plate at the moment. Trying to talk a couple of companies into producing a polymer or machined aluminum plate that makes Mossberg 500 pistol grip stocks look factory by filling in the gaps, for a budget price just like the gun.
Did you ever do the video for the install of the stock? I have the original version of the SAS12 imported by Omega in the mid 90s. Would love to put a nicer butt on them -- they offered a version with a Choate-style stock, but never sold it to "civilians" due to the AWB.
I didn't do a video but its relatively simple. Just need thread adapters. Its a single bolt going through the stock just like a standard shotgun.
@@kcghostt Thread adapters? Inserts or male/female and what is the thread?
I found an auction for the Omega, pretty cool. I also have a factory photo of the three versions Omega had planned to sell, two with the Choate MK5 style stock. One of them was a "police" version with a 14" bbl.
www.gunsamerica.com/946175132/OMEGA-SPS-12.htm
Time for an update video.
Yeah, I will get back to it. At the time I was uploading these SAS-12 videos last year and planning more videos with other things, my mother was at the end of her battle with Cancer. She passed away two weeks after this video, and everything got chaotic with taking care of things, moving her stuff and what not, so I got sidetracked from my plans. I have a few videos planned for the summer, though. That's why I sound so exhausted in this video. I was taking care of her so she could be at her own home when she passed away. I was taking breaks to come home to my family back and forth, and doing quick videos while I was here to take my mind off of things.
@@kcghostt sorry to hear that man..I may be late but it's never to late to share support..hope all is well with you and your family 🙏🙏🙏
Mossberg hot Hardware fits on the butt end
Johnnie Bowling I've done a few other things to it since this video as well. New video coming soon. Have been super busy but I'll be focusing on TH-cam more now. Thanks for watching!
Are those magazines made of metal or plastic
They're made out of steel
Looked for build video but couldn’t find one. Did you ever cut it down? If so did it effect operation any? Seen reports of ftf and fte issues
About 2 weeks after I posted this video my mother passed away from Cancer and I spaced it off. I did cut down the barrel and had to open the gas port slightly to help it cycle low power stuff. I may post an update
I've also converted one to be pump or semi auto and may post a video on that.
KC Ghostt id be real interested in seeing the pump conversation.
@@billyanderson321 Its fairly simple. Just a matter of blocking off the gas block inside so gas can't hit the puck / piston and cycle it. But now SDS Imports has the Civet 12 that uses more reliable Saiga 12 magazines and their other mag fed pump. I just love the SAS-12 because it makes for a great project gun and I love to tinker and bubba.
KC Ghostt the sas-12 is a perfect tinker gun. Price and simplicity make it a bubbas dream lol
Did you have to do any extra fitting or anything in order to get that stock to work? I'm contemplating buying one and getting just a mossberg pistol grip installed on it and also reducing the barrel length to around 19 or 20 whichever keeps it over 24 inches in length so it's still legal.
Dale Curtis the only thing I really had to do when I first installed it was open the pistol grip hole slightly for the larger 10mm bolt to go through.
Sounds easy enough for my dremmel, thanks for the tip
Nice!
Dose the sas12 shot slug or have shot iny out of them
How is it cycling since you cut the barrel?
Looks good to me clean up that Gap should be perfect
Johnnie Bowling I'm trying to get a couple of companies to manufacture a simple cheap aluminum plate to work as an adapter and get rid of the gaps. I have a 3D printed model I've been playing with but no real machinery to work with.
I'd be willing to help out. I just bought one of these to mess with. Send me a message. I have access to machine shops :D
Buffman - R.A.N.G.E. what do you think of the shotgun so far??
great set of vids, I bought it too and today I received the same butt stock and pistol grip, having some problems with the fitting of the stock as the SAS has this weird tube in it instead the hex bolt. How did you solve it? I think I will try to fit a new bolt from inside out and hold the stock with a nut. I need your next build video! I'm also planning to saw it and looking for some rails for the top to finish the tacticool look adding red dot and sights.
btw, went ahead and dived in the ak47 forum so I bought the M16 to M10 adapter on ebay for the stock mod. thanks anyway
Glad you found the forum. Those adapters seem to be the way to go. I am trying to get a few different companies interested in producing a few items for these guns. I'm playing around with a 3D printed adapter plate that fills the gaps between the grip and the receiver and trigger guard for the time being. Have a decent mold created for it as well. If someone could machine them from aluminum it would be a winner.
can you do a video on how you put on high visible sights
anthony wright they snap right onto the rib. They run about $17-$20. Best upgrade you can do to these.
anthony wright I will double check the size for you and reply.
KC Ghostt thank you for the quick reply god bless you and yours merry Christmas and a happy and safe new years where can I find the sights and what ammunition do the sas12 like the best i have not got a chance to shoot it yet
No problem. The sights I used on all of mine are TruGlo Magnum Gobble Dot Xtreme. Size is 5/16" rib. Comes with front and rear sights. Model number TG941XD. Picked mine up at local Bass Pro for $17.00 I think it was. You can order them online from a lot of places. Just search for that model and size. As far as ammo, mine all functioned pretty reliably out of the box with buckshot and slugs. After breaking them in and tweaking a few things, they will also cycle birdshot reliably.
and Merry Christmas to you as well! Thanks for watching.
Would love to see the build video
How did you get the original stock removed? Mine's got a huge bolt inside which is very tight that I can't move a hair out of it.
Asol Vorrom I used a socket wrench with a large flat head bit and extension attached to it for leverage. Mine were the same way.
KC Ghostt Thanks, I just went to Lowe's and got a jumbo size flat head screw driver and used channel lock go got it off. Here's another thing, I got a Mossberg fixed stock and I found the M10x1.0 adapter won't fit the bolt from the stock. Do you know what exact thread of that bolt is?
Asol Vorrom I went to the hardware store and picked up a large 10mm bolt to use with the thread adapters. I opened the hole in the pistol grip slightly with the dremel just enough so the bolt would fit through. I took the thread adapter with me to make sure the bolts I grabbed would work right. Standard 10mm didn't work. It needed to be fine threads. Hope this helps.
KC Ghostt Thank you very much sir!
Asol Vorrom No problem. Happy to help.
Are any magzines from other guns c Compatible with it
Not without major modification, but centerfire systems has the fivers in stock. The follower can be shaved down to allow seven, which is crazy--such a long follower to be as tall as three 12-gauge shells. Feeds just fine though.
Where did you find the larger capacity Magazine?
Jimmy Wesley Centerfire Systems has them for around $24.99
@@kcghostt thank you sir. I don't have one yet but I plan on getting one ASAP. That's a good looking weapon.. can't wait to see the build video. I will be copying you...lol once again.. thanks for the info
lol no worries. Good luck
I'm also pretty easy to find on Facebook if you need any real-time help
Hey how's it going. Just an update ... Just ordered the SAS 12 about an hour ago. I was wondering about the stock.. I wanted to change it to something like what you have. So if it's not a problem ... Could you tell me which one you have and where you purchased it from. I love the look. I'm just going to have to paint the brown furniture.. because they didn't have the all black one. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Sale one
Ok my question is have anybody tried to use drum Magazines with These I really want to know because I want a drum on mines and would like to get as much info as I can
Darrnell Brown there is no working drum at the moment, however, you could fabricate something to make a drum work in these. You would basically need something like a Vepr 12 drum that uses a magwell tower on the drum and the upper part of the factory SAS-12 magazine to build one.
KC Ghostt dammit... for some reason I believe it would look beautiful with a drum...this whole magazine fed stuff I'm in love with so I just want more rounds than 3 and 5..or 4 and 6
KC Ghostt hey man I'm glad your videos are up cause research on this thing is so far gone and by far your videos are the best I've seen. So have you thought about getting it cerakote at all?? And I think I want to cut the barrel to 18 inches it won't interfere with how it functions will it?
Darrnell Brown Thanks. I'm glad people appreciate them. I refinished one of mine with Duplicolor Engine Enamel part number DE1634 which has ceramic in it. Looks great and holds up to heat and cleaners. Baked it in the oven after spraying it. Didn't care enough to go all out with Cerakote. There are 10+ round magazines for the MKA1919 that can be made to work with these, with very little effort. They have polymer sections that basically attach to the bottom and extend them. Look into the clam shell MKA magazines.
Darrnell Brown also, no, I cut the pistol grip one in the video down to 18" and it still functions fine. It's very easy to drill the gas port slightly larger if needed, though.
So I got another concern about the you-know-what compliance. Feel free to reply me so that I'll delete this comment.
As soon as I receive a response as to how many parts of this shotgun are countable for 922r, I will post them on AKFiles. I honestly wasn't even thinking about 922r at first with this shotgun, but am used to dealing with it on other "evil" rifles and shotguns. I've done my own count and as far as I know, it's NOT compliant in this configuration with the magazine inserted. 922r was originally put in place to keep importers from bringing in what they consider "assault weapons" and it kind of spilled over into what people can and can't do to their own weapons. Your average gun owner has never even heard of 922r. I think this is why nobody has ever been prosecuted for violating it. It wasn't meant for individuals. It''s all nonsense just like everything NFA.
KC Ghostt I totally understand your point. But there's one thing I can't risk and I hope you get my point. Thank you very much for your input and effort to make things better sir.
Yes sir. I have 3 of these, so it's not going to kill me to keep the magazine out of this experimental one until I receive clarification. Rules are rules, after all, and we as responsible law-abiding gun owners do everything we can to follow them to a T.