Laziness and corner cutting. By removing the bolt hold open the designers have one less variable and it streamlines production marginally. It's pretty common in cheaper guns.
For a shotgun it makes total sense, as you can pop a cartridge straight into the chamber, then take out the mag which loads that round in, then put a fresh mag in, so now you have the mag + 1 & already loaded with no need to cock.
These cheap gas action shotguns need a few things, but work well and are very tough. 1. Tear down deep clean. All grease/cosmo removed and check gas system for machining crap. 2. Replace any o-rings with good american made versions. The factory chinese pieces may work after the other things are done, but they will disintegrate after 50ish rounds. Turkish shotguns are the same in this reguard. 2. Keep the bolt/fire group dripping wet with oil during break-in (at least 50 rnds of high brass buck) let the oil and powder residue mix up and create a slurry during break in. It helps to lap the parts together. 3. Most important: KEEP IT TIGHT TO YOUR SHOULDER, LEAN INTO IT. The bolt depends on the inertia of your body to run smoothly in its track. When you let it flop around even a little bit it will slow down enough to cause malfunction. It gets less sensitive with more rounds fired. Sometimes its a good idea to stone the extractor, smooth the flat bearing surfaces where it contacts the bolt in its channel, and make sure the hook section is smooth with crisp, square edges. Another 30lbs on your frame would help you out quite a bit as well, but that comes with experience (i.e. "age")
Michael Degginger what are you talking about clearly this is a fully semi automatic assault weapon of war and should be banned#oneless. It’s a joke ok chill bro
H&R Pardner Pump is super reliable. Got one sitting right next to the bed. Had mine for 13 years now and never had any trouble with it and paid just over 100 bucks for it.
Use Remington or other quality buckshot in it, for some reason suprema completely fucks both my semiauto shotguns when it comes to cycling. Just use suprema for pumps or single shots and it's golden.
FYI most 12ga. Semiautomatic you need shells that are a minimum of 3 Dram to make them work properly. I normally use 3-1/4 - 3-1/2 Dram and have no problems. Just thought I would let some know, because a lot of people are unaware of this.
So far I've really enjoyed your channel. Good video quality, informative, and entertaining. I mean who doesn't love goody gunplay? I'm excited to see more content and see where your channel goes. Best of luck.
heh, they kept them in hiatus cold storage for 10 years so all would forget the issues and brought out last batch to clear the warehouse of them finally forever...make it a bullpup and convert to saiga mags, Then work on the cycling with birdshot issue
Other importers have same gun but come with two gas pistons. One for high velocity shells and one for low. I haven’t found anyone selling the gas pistons.
I just ran mine today with 25 loads that are the exact opposite of what's reccomended - Light 2 3/4 target loads, very low brass. Hiccuped about for about 9 rounds and then kicked all the rest out flawlessly. I'm certain it's just a matter of luck, and I got quite lucky because even the 'decent' ones I see videos of seem to be junk. And cosmetically mine is absolutely junk. Worse fit and finish I've ever seen in my life. Came banged up out the box. I do enjoy the recoil energy a lot. It's not brutal but you can tell you're shooting a shotgun because in part, the recoil pad isn't one. It's just a piece of plastic. The patterning was the second biggest surprise, being excellent despite most of the parts, including the end of the barrel, being cut by a child laborer with an angel grinder. A really good teehee is the fact that the barrel looks like a piece of galvanized pipe inside, and the operating rod has welds that look like hammered shit. Everything is totally dicked basically but it was worth it.
1:20 I usually just share a bottle of (N)EverClear with my consoling drenched gun. No risk of forgotten moisture AND I get to have some fun while I'm dealing w/ that crap
Ot needs high brass until broken in. Most semis do. Thrylike to shoot well oiled. You can buy larger mags. Three rounds meets import requirements. There is lot of ignorance about them.
This is awesome. For some reason, I really like cheap guns. Maybe I like the challenge of trying to make them work? Tuned in to see how this one turns out!
You could think of it this way: the magazine may never feed, and the action may never cycle itself, so it may effectively be a single shot shotgun. For $140. That's still not a particularly bad deal.
If you break it in with at least 200 rounds 00 buck and make sure it stays well oiled you won't have any problems. I've seen many others than can go 100+ rounds without any failures. It says right in the manual it has a 200 round break in period.
If you were to probably put some rounds through it and do some work on it, it might be a good shotgun, you know, try to find like a 3rd party magazine for it, modify the ejector something like that.
Decent gun. But the LSI Hatsan escort is only $60 more with 3X the quality and holds 4 more shots in it's tube mag. Not to mention it's not covered is cosmoline.
You have a problem with throat and you needed to tap your mags to seat the rounds like the teach in the military. Firmly tap them three times on your palm. The ejector in the bolt may need work as well. I had an older M1A that was unreliable until I cleaned the gas piston and port, now it functions 100% of the time. It was lead fouled. Simple little things can really mess up performance. And with guns as with most things, "you get what you pay for." $140 is what I would expect to pay for a break open single shot shotgun.
My serial number is 950 and was advertised as no bolt hold open. Centerfire says they'll have mags in 60 days or something like that. I'm hoping they're five rounders.
About 75% of these guns have burrs in the gas ports that need to be pushed out with a drill bit shank. Otherwise they won't get enough gas to cycle properly. Although, your problem was you were using the wrong ammo. Get something that's proper "high brass" which is a 3-3/4 dram equivalent load like Remington Express 2-3/4" or Federal High Brass 2-3/4". Buckshot is not "high brass" by default, some buckshot (like the brand you used) is underpowered. I've got two of these things and they both work perfectly. One of mine had the gas port burrs but I fixed them before I shot it so it wasn't an issue. My brother got one too, and his needed the rivets on the op-rod restaked because they didn't rivet them right. Five minutes with a punch and fixed. So they're not perfect out of the box but the three of them have been working perfectly (because I looked them over and corrected the minor issues you will find on a $140 Chinese knock off of a $2000 Beretta shotgun).
@@SpunkMayo stop being a moron who doesn't read. Most of the post was blaming the shitty manufacturing. You don't seem to understand how gas operated guns work though, you can't just toss whatever ammo in them and expect them to run it no matter how expensive or well built they are. The powder has to be right to give sufficient gas volume to cycle the gun. That's why most new semi auto shotguns are inertia operated now, because it's more idiot proof for all the idiots that think you should be able to run every kind of ammo in the gun as long as the box says 12ga. This gun is $140 though, what do you really expect? If you want an operator proof semi auto shotgun suck it up and get a benelli.
On the Centerfire website, they say that you need to use high brass shells to break it in. Tried doing that yet? Or would Magnum shells be a better bet?
I used to have one of these. The only shell if would correctly fire where the activ ones with no brass. Every time I would use a regular shell it would jam.
Very fast mass produced machinery work leaves burrs and and other types of flashing on the bolt and bolt guide track.gas ports need looked at for burring and maybe cosmoline build up also ,check out feed ramps for any kind of lower allignment infraction s such as burrs or flashing ,if so smooth and polish ramp and use smooth casing shells no shells with other cars grooves to catch a sharp edge as it cycles in and out .this was a big problem I found with lorcin pistols that had poorquality control during and after machining .the mass production rate was so fast that burrs and flashing went undetected and causaed alot of proplems with those guns .but don't throw it away yet! With a little finish work you can go through the whole thing and do your own quality control and take a fine file , sand paper and Dremel grinder well you get the picture clean all the cosmoline out of the internal working parts ,hell when you are done you might find out you have a pretty good gun.
yes, when the gas cycles the action it ends up coming out of the ejection port. you don't see it on every shot for the same reason that cameras don't pick up muzzle flash on every shot: it happens very quickly
I assume that bolt hold open on the mag is so you can slip a round in through the breach? then when you pull the mag out it shuts, and you can just put the next mag in ... doesn't really make much sense .. maybe if you had a shell holder on the stock
There is no bolt hold open on these, on the mag or otherwise. I don't know what he's looking at. I have three of these things and none have any bolt hold open feature at all. If you want to +1 a round you hold the bolt open and drop one in.
My guess is you can get five in them without too much trouble. However, it seems you have a lot of work to do if you buy one of those, but it was only $140 bucks.
+Liston 336 If you check out my follow up video I have some slomo of the same thing happening. It seems to be a result still burning powder embers igniting the smoke, kinda similar to how you can relight a candle with its smoke. Neat stuff.
Do you think you could take a dremmel to the bolt carrier/action and shave down the weight/friction a little bi-- It just occurred to me I'm suggesting the best way to polish a turd
Maybe if you shot high brass like the manual says to use you would've had less problems. Cheap buckshot usually isn't high brass. Clean every bit of cosmoline out, lube it appropriately, and shoot what the manual says to shoot. I bought mine from Centerfire Systems and just got done shooting it. Absolutely no issues with high brass. I'll be posting some videos on tweaking it for low brass. The piston looks like it could take Remington shotgun gas seals. If I'm wrong, I'll drill the gas ports out slightly.
Jacob Wright got mine from centerfire as well, ran 4 boxes of winchester super X high brass shells through it and out of 100 rounds I had 1 failure to eject. I'm satisfied with the gun but it's definitely not a high quality gun.
I had one of these marked norinco with wood stock and plastic forend ..it was picky about ammo . ballooned case heads badly with some ammo and . you can remove the mag follower and cut the bottom edge of the follower down and it will hold 5 shells .. And watch for The gas hole in the forend ..it will burn you and i had to make a replacement ejector pin from a grade 8 machine screw .the original sheared off within 20 rounds yours works better than mine ever did . quality control is hit or miss with these guns . if you get a good one its great . if you get a bad one good luck
I want to point out. There is no city of Junxing in China. There is a street in Taiwan named Junxing. A few hotels. Thats about it. Your weapon might have been made by slaves in China.
I just about peed myself when you shot at the SAS-12 with your pistol. Unless you've got some serious CGI budget going on there, you were rolling the dice... glad you didn't shoot it. I've only killed one gun in my lifetime, and it felt bad even though it was a POS. You've got the best undiscovered channel on the TH-cams. Demolition Ranch ain't got sh*t on you. Keep it up. I know how much money you're probably making on these, so it's truly a labor of love for you.
Why even bother with a magazine if it only holds 3 or 5 rounds? If I bought one, I'd spend the extra cash making some from scratch or modifying them to make it worth owning. 10 would be better. 20+ would be ideal.
I would say just open up the gas port, but with that fire coming out at 7:44 it seems over gassed as is. Just a bad pos all around. And damn if that ending didn't make my fucking day lol!
the dominion arms aka grizzly aka 870 copy by Norinco has a magfed version. Looking at your mag and comparing to mine (from Norc 870 magfed), I'm pretty sure they would fit your sas-12
I have. I can rack it back with the plastic forend off, but when I put it back on it won’t open. An i know the gun was crudely made but I can’t seem to figure out what’s catching
Bruce Bosco the manual specifies high pressure loads of over 1200fps, not strictly high brass, but even so if you need premium ammo to cycle a cheap gun you've got problems. That aside, there were several other issues present that would keep if from cycling which I'll be addressing in a future video. Hopefully I won't have to tamper with the gas ports, we'll see.
Hey guys it's Kjaskaar with TFBTV. Full auto should stay banned because I have money tied up in them, also the P7 is the best pistol because I have one and you don't. Thanks for watching.
A three shot semi-auto? What is this, Duck Hunt??
The Mad Gentleman no this is Patrick, lol its for Canadians actually
the triple barrel shotgun is both cooler and more appropriate.
I just really love the look on the gun - it's got that 20th century cold war vibe with wood on gunmetal and a modern magazine.
Shame that the wood is just plastic.
I never understood why anyone would make a magazine that holds the bolt open when they could just design their weapon with a bolt catch.
Laziness and corner cutting. By removing the bolt hold open the designers have one less variable and it streamlines production marginally. It's pretty common in cheaper guns.
@@nicholashodges201 Could also be phrased as simplicity: fewer total moving parts means fewer things to break and maintain.
Less moving parts, easier maintenance
It cost the chinese 26.00 to make it. Any more questions?
For a shotgun it makes total sense, as you can pop a cartridge straight into the chamber, then take out the mag which loads that round in, then put a fresh mag in, so now you have the mag + 1 & already loaded with no need to cock.
Please stop racking off in the shower! Your palms will get hairy!
Dave Biddle comment authenticity increased by 1 coming from dude with the cross as user picture.
Not if you shave like you're supposed to.lol
@@jacobstaten2366 I, too, thoroughly enjoy shaving my palms on a weekly basis.
I wish I could see what you wrote. But because, as my momma warned, I've gone blind from racking off too much!
Racks on, Racks off.
Thanks for the review. You just convinced me to pass on this one.
Go to 7:45 and watch the gun almost explode
@@violetgoins2576 that didn't almost explode lmao
That much fire should not have came from the chamber the shell was over powered
Yeah watch the round following the failure to eject
These cheap gas action shotguns need a few things, but work well and are very tough.
1. Tear down deep clean. All grease/cosmo removed and check gas system for machining crap.
2. Replace any o-rings with good american made versions. The factory chinese pieces may work after the other things are done, but they will disintegrate after 50ish rounds. Turkish shotguns are the same in this reguard.
2. Keep the bolt/fire group dripping wet with oil during break-in (at least 50 rnds of high brass buck) let the oil and powder residue mix up and create a slurry during break in. It helps to lap the parts together.
3. Most important:
KEEP IT TIGHT TO YOUR SHOULDER, LEAN INTO IT.
The bolt depends on the inertia of your body to run smoothly in its track. When you let it flop around even a little bit it will slow down enough to cause malfunction. It gets less sensitive with more rounds fired.
Sometimes its a good idea to stone the extractor, smooth the flat bearing surfaces where it contacts the bolt in its channel, and make sure the hook section is smooth with crisp, square edges.
Another 30lbs on your frame would help you out quite a bit as well, but that comes with experience (i.e. "age")
These have been around for a long time, they used to be imported in the 90s as the Omega SPS12.
They also made a version with a pistol grip.
"Semi-automatic"
More like semi-functional
BigMek456 👍👌😄
Just call it a poor mans bolt action
Michael Degginger semi-semi-automatic.
Michael Degginger what are you talking about clearly this is a fully semi automatic assault weapon of war and should be banned#oneless.
It’s a joke ok chill bro
H&R Pardner Pump is super reliable. Got one sitting right next to the bed. Had mine for 13 years now and never had any trouble with it and paid just over 100 bucks for it.
drenched in cosmoline?
oh fuck yeah
I don't own guns, and nor do I intend to, however it looks really cool whenever I see you shoot one...
Thank God for cosmoline, keeps those babies as good as new, in fact it keeps them new.
Coffee SPEWED across the room seeing the shower curtain. 😂🤣
Use Remington or other quality buckshot in it, for some reason suprema completely fucks both my semiauto shotguns when it comes to cycling. Just use suprema for pumps or single shots and it's golden.
Estate, my usual go-to for 00, won't fit in this due to its roll crimp so suprema was all I had on hand. I'll try some other stuff next time around.
FYI most 12ga. Semiautomatic you need shells that are a minimum of 3 Dram to make them work properly. I normally use 3-1/4 - 3-1/2 Dram and have no problems.
Just thought I would let some know, because a lot of people are unaware of this.
So far I've really enjoyed your channel. Good video quality, informative, and entertaining. I mean who doesn't love goody gunplay? I'm excited to see more content and see where your channel goes. Best of luck.
Drop a loose round down the spout then pull mag and change mags.
You get what you pay for. Thanks for the video.
Wow, it took me years (until now) to realize that this is the shotgun you use in the game Carnivores.
heh, they kept them in hiatus cold storage for 10 years so all would forget the issues and brought out last batch to clear the warehouse of them finally forever...make it a bullpup and convert to saiga mags, Then work on the cycling with birdshot issue
now that was a good tip . What was the conversion of those mags like?
Other importers have same gun but come with two gas pistons. One for high velocity shells and one for low. I haven’t found anyone selling the gas pistons.
I just ran mine today with 25 loads that are the exact opposite of what's reccomended - Light 2 3/4 target loads, very low brass. Hiccuped about for about 9 rounds and then kicked all the rest out flawlessly. I'm certain it's just a matter of luck, and I got quite lucky because even the 'decent' ones I see videos of seem to be junk. And cosmetically mine is absolutely junk. Worse fit and finish I've ever seen in my life. Came banged up out the box. I do enjoy the recoil energy a lot. It's not brutal but you can tell you're shooting a shotgun because in part, the recoil pad isn't one. It's just a piece of plastic. The patterning was the second biggest surprise, being excellent despite most of the parts, including the end of the barrel, being cut by a child laborer with an angel grinder.
A really good teehee is the fact that the barrel looks like a piece of galvanized pipe inside, and the operating rod has welds that look like hammered shit. Everything is totally dicked basically but it was worth it.
1:20 I usually just share a bottle of (N)EverClear with my consoling drenched gun. No risk of forgotten moisture AND I get to have some fun while I'm dealing w/ that crap
Did you hit it with that Smokin' Aces magdump?
Ot needs high brass until broken in. Most semis do. Thrylike to shoot well oiled. You can buy larger mags. Three rounds meets import requirements. There is lot of ignorance about them.
This is awesome. For some reason, I really like cheap guns. Maybe I like the challenge of trying to make them work? Tuned in to see how this one turns out!
Looking at the slow mo, the ammo is not powerful enough to push the bolt all the way back. Will cutting the spring helps?
When did Edward Snowden start doing gun reviews.
Roberta Stevens 😘
Yikes
So the secret to getting the cosmoline off is whistling in the shower? Aww man I was doing it wrong.
It’s like an ar with a stuffed gas tube.
At least it’s very cool looking
Nice flektarn jacket
They may have made the mags hold only 3 shells to make them hunting compliant
You could think of it this way: the magazine may never feed, and the action may never cycle itself, so it may effectively be a single shot shotgun. For $140. That's still not a particularly bad deal.
Wow. Pretty cool. Id pick one up if i saw one
I'm willing to bet that if you Polish the parts that rub on the bolt it will feed better
If you break it in with at least 200 rounds 00 buck and make sure it stays well oiled you won't have any problems. I've seen many others than can go 100+ rounds without any failures. It says right in the manual it has a 200 round break in period.
You could buy another shotgun after buying 200 rounds of buckshot.
If you were to probably put some rounds through it and do some work on it, it might be a good shotgun, you know, try to find like a 3rd party magazine for it, modify the ejector something like that.
Why would you clean the cosmoline off, товарищ? It makes weapon stronker
Looks like a BAR
Botched extraction can be due to shells. This shotgun requires high-brass shells to work properly.
Decent gun. But the LSI Hatsan escort is only $60 more with 3X the quality and holds 4 more shots in it's tube mag. Not to mention it's not covered is cosmoline.
You have a problem with throat and you needed to tap your mags to seat the rounds like the teach in the military. Firmly tap them three times on your palm. The ejector in the bolt may need work as well. I had an older M1A that was unreliable until I cleaned the gas piston and port, now it functions 100% of the time. It was lead fouled. Simple little things can really mess up performance. And with guns as with most things, "you get what you pay for." $140 is what I would expect to pay for a break open single shot shotgun.
My serial number is 950 and was advertised as no bolt hold open. Centerfire says they'll have mags in 60 days or something like that. I'm hoping they're five rounders.
That's the word on the street, 5 rounders available for $25 a pop.
About 75% of these guns have burrs in the gas ports that need to be pushed out with a drill bit shank. Otherwise they won't get enough gas to cycle properly. Although, your problem was you were using the wrong ammo. Get something that's proper "high brass" which is a 3-3/4 dram equivalent load like Remington Express 2-3/4" or Federal High Brass 2-3/4". Buckshot is not "high brass" by default, some buckshot (like the brand you used) is underpowered.
I've got two of these things and they both work perfectly. One of mine had the gas port burrs but I fixed them before I shot it so it wasn't an issue. My brother got one too, and his needed the rivets on the op-rod restaked because they didn't rivet them right. Five minutes with a punch and fixed. So they're not perfect out of the box but the three of them have been working perfectly (because I looked them over and corrected the minor issues you will find on a $140 Chinese knock off of a $2000 Beretta shotgun).
Stop blaming ammo and operators for shitty manufacturing
@@SpunkMayo stop being a moron who doesn't read. Most of the post was blaming the shitty manufacturing. You don't seem to understand how gas operated guns work though, you can't just toss whatever ammo in them and expect them to run it no matter how expensive or well built they are. The powder has to be right to give sufficient gas volume to cycle the gun. That's why most new semi auto shotguns are inertia operated now, because it's more idiot proof for all the idiots that think you should be able to run every kind of ammo in the gun as long as the box says 12ga. This gun is $140 though, what do you really expect? If you want an operator proof semi auto shotgun suck it up and get a benelli.
@@destruxxx nice novel bro
@@SpunkMayo that's about 10 seconds bud grow a few brain cells maybe.
@@destruxxx I usually only read long replies if they're coming from someone worthwhile. You are not.
shot 2 of second magazine has quite a bit of flame coming out of the empty as its ejecting, interesting
7:44ish
I was literally about to hit the "add to cart" button on Centerfire when I decided to see if there were any video reviews. THANK YOU.
Was 7:46 a slight out of battery detonation? I see a flash of orange from the breech, anyone else?
The sausage
SAS 12 likes high brass, low brass causes it to not eject just fyi bois
Now they're $180. I really want one since its the cheapest med fed shotgun i can find. Shit i should buy two and SBS one of them
On the Centerfire website, they say that you need to use high brass shells to break it in. Tried doing that yet? Or would Magnum shells be a better bet?
Centerfire Systems has FACTORY 5-round mags IN STOCK NOW!
Yes Centerfire Systems $24.99
Looks like a 12 gauge B.A.R. M1918
Looks like the magazines need some tuning and the gas feed system seems to be iffy
The hell was up with the fire in the ejection port at 7:44?
I used to have one of these. The only shell if would correctly fire where the activ ones with no brass. Every time I would use a regular shell it would jam.
Very fast mass produced machinery work leaves burrs and and other types of flashing on the bolt and bolt guide track.gas ports need looked at for burring and maybe cosmoline build up also ,check out feed ramps for any kind of lower allignment infraction s such as burrs or flashing ,if so smooth and polish ramp and use smooth casing shells no shells with other cars grooves to catch a sharp edge as it cycles in and out .this was a big problem I found with lorcin pistols that had poorquality control during and after machining .the mass production rate was so fast that burrs and flashing went undetected and causaed alot of proplems with those guns .but don't throw it away yet! With a little finish work you can go through the whole thing and do your own quality control and take a fine file , sand paper and Dremel grinder well you get the picture clean all the cosmoline out of the internal working parts ,hell when you are done you might find out you have a pretty good gun.
so uhh. is a fireball in the receiver supposed to happen at 7:45?
yes, when the gas cycles the action it ends up coming out of the ejection port. you don't see it on every shot for the same reason that cameras don't pick up muzzle flash on every shot: it happens very quickly
I assume that bolt hold open on the mag is so you can slip a round in through the breach? then when you pull the mag out it shuts, and you can just put the next mag in ... doesn't really make much sense .. maybe if you had a shell holder on the stock
It's about as well thought out as the rest of it.
There is no bolt hold open on these, on the mag or otherwise. I don't know what he's looking at. I have three of these things and none have any bolt hold open feature at all. If you want to +1 a round you hold the bolt open and drop one in.
Thank you Kjaskaar keep up the good work. Whistle while you work lol
My guess is you can get five in them without too much trouble. However, it seems you have a lot of work to do if you buy one of those, but it was only $140 bucks.
I bought 3 good incompletes and just barely got one out of the 3.
Mine has been completely reliable with buckshot so far
Can you shoot slugs out of it? The one I just got has a scope on it
About took a dump in my pants 7:45
That's a nice bolt action shotgun you have there 👍
The spring on that 3 round may be pushing the rounds up against the bolt a bit too much. Trim the follower on it.
Is it me or does it look like a BAR?
For $139.... Too good to be true
Looks sorta like a BAR rifle lol
this channel is amazing
LOVE the ending !!!!!!!!!! 👍🏼
Like your jacket. What is it
I am trying to remember the last time I took a shower with a shotgun. My memory must be failing me...............LOL
Yeah man that sucker shot a heck of a flame out at 7:46. Maybe unburnt powder from FTJ
+Liston 336 If you check out my follow up video I have some slomo of the same thing happening. It seems to be a result still burning powder embers igniting the smoke, kinda similar to how you can relight a candle with its smoke. Neat stuff.
12 gauge, cheap? Yes. Semiautomatic? Sometimes...
They function well with high brass. If a cheap chinese weapon can function well.
Do you think you could take a dremmel to the bolt carrier/action and shave down the weight/friction a little bi--
It just occurred to me I'm suggesting the best way to polish a turd
Willy the Wendigo Wouldn't be my first time, put a mirror finish on a Taurus once.
I know this video was posted in 2017 but as of today centerfire has the 5rd mags for a reasonable price i think 15.99
can i buy it from you? i wanna start making videos about garbage guns
I'm hanging on to this one but centerfire still has em if you wanted to pick one up.
Kjaskaar thanks!
You tampered with the 3 round magazine. Just use high brass casings and hot ammo.
JC Higgins
Maybe if you shot high brass like the manual says to use you would've had less problems. Cheap buckshot usually isn't high brass. Clean every bit of cosmoline out, lube it appropriately, and shoot what the manual says to shoot. I bought mine from Centerfire Systems and just got done shooting it. Absolutely no issues with high brass. I'll be posting some videos on tweaking it for low brass. The piston looks like it could take Remington shotgun gas seals. If I'm wrong, I'll drill the gas ports out slightly.
Jacob Wright got mine from centerfire as well, ran 4 boxes of winchester super X high brass shells through it and out of 100 rounds I had 1 failure to eject. I'm satisfied with the gun but it's definitely not a high quality gun.
I had one of these marked norinco with wood stock and plastic forend ..it was picky about ammo . ballooned case heads badly with some ammo and . you can remove the mag follower and cut the bottom edge of the follower down and it will hold 5 shells .. And watch for The gas hole in the forend ..it will burn you and i had to make a replacement ejector pin from a grade 8 machine screw .the original sheared off within 20 rounds yours works better than mine ever did . quality control is hit or miss with these guns . if you get a good one its great . if you get a bad one good luck
It's ugly if you try low brass, The brass expands on mine. It shouldn't kill you but.....maybe. It's chinese.....they're coming for you.
That outtro was so cool. Subbed. Did you hit it?
You missed the opportunity to say "Best bang for your buckshot"?
Wtf...a semi auto shotgun for 140....where tf was i...
At least it didn't explode lol. I wonder if the ejection port is too small.
I want to point out. There is no city of Junxing in China. There is a street in Taiwan named Junxing. A few hotels. Thats about it. Your weapon might have been made by slaves in China.
so its just a magazine issue then?
I just about peed myself when you shot at the SAS-12 with your pistol. Unless you've got some serious CGI budget going on there, you were rolling the dice... glad you didn't shoot it. I've only killed one gun in my lifetime, and it felt bad even though it was a POS.
You've got the best undiscovered channel on the TH-cams. Demolition Ranch ain't got sh*t on you. Keep it up. I know how much money you're probably making on these, so it's truly a labor of love for you.
RyeOnHam Fun fact there were three separate takes of that scene.
Hey this guy is great but Matt is awesome too!
Why even bother with a magazine if it only holds 3 or 5 rounds? If I bought one, I'd spend the extra cash making some from scratch or modifying them to make it worth owning. 10 would be better. 20+ would be ideal.
Think the Saiga 12 mags would work?
I would say just open up the gas port, but with that fire coming out at 7:44 it seems over gassed as is. Just a bad pos all around. And damn if that ending didn't make my fucking day lol!
Chris Collins A little fire from the chamber is common in most semiautos, they burp like that now and again.
@@Kjaskaar You cook over it if your quick. A chinese thing
Just bought a new 870 for $175
the reason it has a 3 round mag is so out of the box it is ready for hunting
the dominion arms aka grizzly aka 870 copy by Norinco has a magfed version.
Looking at your mag and comparing to mine (from Norc 870 magfed), I'm pretty sure they would fit your sas-12
I can’t even get my SAS 12 to rack back. Any help?!?
Ben Babineaux That's pretty vague. Take it apart and see if anything is catching.
I have. I can rack it back with the plastic forend off, but when I put it back on it won’t open. An i know the gun was crudely made but I can’t seem to figure out what’s catching
I, hate when people just throw their empty magazines.....
I think that sucker says to break in with high brass hot ammo
Dude it says use high brass shells to break in you have low brass
Bruce Bosco the manual specifies high pressure loads of over 1200fps, not strictly high brass, but even so if you need premium ammo to cycle a cheap gun you've got problems.
That aside, there were several other issues present that would keep if from cycling which I'll be addressing in a future video. Hopefully I won't have to tamper with the gas ports, we'll see.
I just ordered one to play around with I think it has potential with a little tweaking
do you talk like Alex C. to piss off the kommandos?
Hey guys it's Kjaskaar with TFBTV. Full auto should stay banned because I have money tied up in them, also the P7 is the best pistol because I have one and you don't. Thanks for watching.
Kjaskaar "oh and while I'm still here anything that isn't a Mauser is trash"
Fuckin epic lol