Currently on my level 2 technical certificate in plumbing and have done a bit of pipe bending but still found myself boggled about how to do different offsets. This has really helped me to finally get it!
Your videos are a massive help to me getting my pipe bending skills on point for college, so much that I recommend you to everyone on my course! Thanks for your time and effort toward helping new and existing plumbers
Cheers for this! Watched your other two pipe bending videos and this one seemed the most simple and no-fuss! I'll use this tonight at my evening college class :D Might be good to make a video about plumbing health and safety? Can't find any decent videos about UK health and safety for plumbers. I'm doing the Level 2 Diploma city and guilds at college now and the health and safety unit is a headache!
I'd like to thank you for this video. I had a pipe with pinhole leaks needed replacing. It had a 90 degree bend plus an offset, the prospect was quite intimidating, but this video made it look easy - and it was! In fact I think my pipe was a better fit for the space than the old one I took out! There's not enough real plumbers in my area - so they don't even return your calls.
As I progress with my unpaid training I'm fascinated by the smart and intricate bends to copper pipe. Onto TH-cam and the #plumberparts channel. Thanks for the clear video and the tips you give here James, brilliant stuff! I'll look for others but what a great starting point 👌
im new to plumbing currently studying at college. your videos are great. realy gave me a insight on how to go about things. keep up the good work and keep on posting.
This is a very informative video and made very entertaining at that too. As an instructor this person is not of the boring variety who makes you fall asleep and this makes the whole clip even better. Well done. Your videos are very good for my course.
Loving these pipe bending videos, I'm learning this all at college at the moment but it's taught very different, and it's fine, but as soon as you've done it, you completely forget the way you done it, because they don't give you simple easy bullet points like this. I've wasted so much pipe today working out how to do certain bends I wasn't sure of, and now I've seen your videos its making much more sense. Please do video's on all the other college taught bends to, very very helpful!!!
The headaches i used to have when training & still did untill today, what an easy way round it that you have shown, like i said in one of your other vidoes, your not the best at what you do but your in the top 1 lol, cheers pal
My head hurts ! i got up to the bit where your looking down the tool while lifting it ,wow all your help reminds me of a plumbers version of the thingy sailers use to read the stars ! So complicated ...thanks for vid ..
I've no idea about plumbing and couldn't understand the markings. A sign of a good instructional video is anyone can understand it. This is the 3rd video I've watched and still don't understand the markings.
These videos are so entertaining, great fun. Can you do a video on how to deal with older plumbing, like cast iron and lead drain pipes? How do you do the connections, say, on a bad toilet flange. I've only dealt with plastic but in the community I'm in now, older plumbing is very common.
I have a very old pipe bender which has measurements around the former arch, mark the pipe with a felt tip and line it up on the set and perfect offsets. It has imperial and metric and I bought it at a trade fare in the 80s
+plumberparts Much better this time, I tried it without the vise as well, took a couple attempts but I nailed it in the end. I'm working on different copper assemblies at the moment, using bends and fittings etc. I'm enjoying it more than I thought :)
Great detailed explanation so thanks a bunch for that. I have this exact job to do on a bathroom refurb so this is going to come in very handy. Thanks again and keep up the very useful and entertaining vids.
+Soul Flex Digital At colleges in the UK, they (in my experience of learning and teaching) teach the use of the "McEown Table". I had a "discussion" with one of the older members of college staff about why they did that, and he said it was because it was easy, and worked... Which it simply doesn't, or doesn't always, since it's based on a bend radius to tube diameter of 4:1, to which not every bending machine adheres. My own benders (both of them) are 3.5:1, for instance, as were the ones at the college I taught at. That means the McEown table is generally useless. (it doesn't mean the principle is useless, because it can be modified to suit your own bender) it just means the data on the table does not suit the benders. The "hook" on a bender can be different from another, too, and that can affect where a bend starts to form, which in turn alters its relationship with other bends. The amount of good tube I've seen consigned to scrap because of incorrect methods being taught...
I’m doing plumbing at the moment at college and that’s the one thing that gets me I can do the whole thing then the offset fucks me over . I over bend it and put me out on the whole thing I did . Tutor made me do it all again . Can you do some more of those with other measurements video was really helpful
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Hi James, do you have a video, that covers how to measure between fittings? Calculating the fitting allowance on 15 and 22 copper? I am constantly cutting off slivers of pipe. Anything that shows how to work it out would be great. Thanks. Sarah
Great video. Quick question though, how do you sort small offsets, of say 20mm? On the benders I have you can’t get the pipe into the grip for less than 25mm
Your better off soldering in the elbows if you want long term reliability.... Bending pipes will stretch and weaken the copper...over time with water turbulence at the bends, that will be the first place you will develop leaks..
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Good video to help the beginners. I don't know how you find the time to upload all the videos, well done. I'm sorry to have to mention this, but as one of the things that bugs me, can you please stop referring to the GUIDE as a FORMER. The FORMER is the large aluminium casting fixed to the bending machine, in which the copper pipe is placed. The GUIDES are the separate parts (15 or 22mm) of the bending machine that are placed onto the pipe and under the roller to GUIDE the pipe around the FORMER. Picky I know, but that's the kind of guy I am. Same applies to rulers and rules, as per Aaron Lee's comments earlier, although I have to confess I sometimes call a rule a ruler (I said picky but not perfect). Keep up the good work.
Excellent series of Videos - Thanks ! I have a Pipe-Bending Question - Assuming there is the Space and Accessability to install the Bent Pipe/s how many bends is it possibleble to put into the same Pipe Run before it is advisable to use a Solder Joint,,,,??? For example : A run of three pipes with the same offsets and then another bend on all three - or - or one - or two bent at 90 degrees horizontal to the perpendicular and then another 90 degree to the horizontal,,,,??? Naturally though, it depends on the overall length of the pipe that is going to be used. No, this isn't a joke question, it is a serious question based on my current project where my pipe runs are flying in all directions. Any fool can cut pipes and solder in joints, but pipe bending is a reflection of the true professional. You comment/s would be appreciated - Thanks. Paul
Paul, you can use as many bends as you like within physical allowances the main one being can you fit the bends in. There's no weakening of pipe wall or degradation with every bend added. And agreed it does often look more professional. Thanks got your question!!! Regards, PP!
Just started my plumbing course and this helped loads 🤘 Question: the marks on the bender ie: the 45 mark....... do you line the end of the mark/line up with the centre of the pipe, or do you line the mark/line up so it’s parallel with the pipe, if that makes sense? Cheers lad 🤘👍
Quick question, I understand this might not be the correct forum, scenario is, 15 mm copper tails coming through an already tiled surface, which is hard grouted. Is there a plumbing solution to levelling up a bar mixer, using conventional plumbing parts, plug for you there. I have seen the offset threaded systems, but they fit into a female receiver. Is there a solution, that can also utilise the chrome cover plate kits. Many thanks for your considered opinion.
I've found the easiest way to do it is once you've put your first bend in push the pipe all the way into the bender until the black guard or whatever you want to call it just hits the first bend on the pipe, then put in your second bend, don't need rulers etc, anyone else?, currently at college so ...
Great buddies, very helpful. I'm doing my Gas Safe course , three moths left, but I'm having trouble finding a company to complete the assessments with, any tip or advice. Thank Gee of GSD Construction & Maintenance Ltd.
all your vids are excellent tips for plumbing. But can you give any advice on plumbers who are just qualified and are trying to get our foot in the door? It's really difficult finding a job as I'm qualified but have no experience!
Say for example you're running a length of pipe along the skirting, and you have to put an offset in the pipe, what's the best way to measure out where the offset should start so you don't end up bending it in the wrong place.
I had to do bends kinda like this today but I used a bendy spring thing. Those benders look way better to use. Ts there a tool u can get to reshape the pipe end after u've cut it so as the spring can insert easier? I had to hacksaw the end off each time and it was a faff. Cool vids btw eh mate
There's a tool called a De Burrer that should do the job www.amazon.co.uk/Monument-365f-Int-Pipe-Burrer/dp/B0001P0FY0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1490541297&sr=8-4&keywords=DE+BURRER
Hi I'm replacing a single radiator for a double and pipes need to come forward a bit from wall and are coming up out of a concrete floor. I will be draining system off first as a precaution. Any advice on how to bend them forward say an inch or inch and a half. (Taking valves off heating pipe small iron bar down and gently bend????) Please help.
Never normally have a flat surface and two rulers, plus usually working to a tight dead line, I pretty much eyeball all mine which is why they aren't that good. Would love to be a proper plumber where you have time to do the job properly.
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All i can say is, after watchin this i reckon ive learnt more about doing an accurate bend than i ever did in college haha cheers mate,
Currently on my level 2 technical certificate in plumbing and have done a bit of pipe bending but still found myself boggled about how to do different offsets. This has really helped me to finally get it!
I'm currently doing my level 2 and I wish the teachers would explain how to do these bends the way you do. Thanks for your help
Your videos are a massive help to me getting my pipe bending skills on point for college, so much that I recommend you to everyone on my course! Thanks for your time and effort toward helping new and existing plumbers
I'm currently at college learning pipe bending, the way I've been taught is good but your way is so much easier and quicker thank you.
Cheers for this! Watched your other two pipe bending videos and this one seemed the most simple and no-fuss! I'll use this tonight at my evening college class :D
Might be good to make a video about plumbing health and safety? Can't find any decent videos about UK health and safety for plumbers. I'm doing the Level 2 Diploma city and guilds at college now and the health and safety unit is a headache!
I'd like to thank you for this video. I had a pipe with pinhole leaks needed replacing. It had a 90 degree bend plus an offset, the prospect was quite intimidating, but this video made it look easy - and it was! In fact I think my pipe was a better fit for the space than the old one I took out! There's not enough real plumbers in my area - so they don't even return your calls.
No worries Mr Swanley! Glad to help. And you're right, there aren't enough plumbers about at the moment!
As I progress with my unpaid training I'm fascinated by the smart and intricate bends to copper pipe. Onto TH-cam and the #plumberparts channel.
Thanks for the clear video and the tips you give here James, brilliant stuff! I'll look for others but what a great starting point 👌
Been doing this for two days. It's been hurting my brain. This seems pretty straightforward. Thanks 👍
Alot easier to remember this way compared to the way they want you to do it at college!, thanks mate
im new to plumbing currently studying at college. your videos are great. realy gave me a insight on how to go about things. keep up the good work and keep on posting.
This is a very informative video and made very entertaining at that too. As an instructor this person is not of the boring variety who makes you fall asleep and this makes the whole clip even better. Well done. Your videos are very good for my course.
Loving these pipe bending videos, I'm learning this all at college at the moment but it's taught very different, and it's fine, but as soon as you've done it, you completely forget the way you done it, because they don't give you simple easy bullet points like this. I've wasted so much pipe today working out how to do certain bends I wasn't sure of, and now I've seen your videos its making much more sense. Please do video's on all the other college taught bends to, very very helpful!!!
Been in the game since 2003 still found this video really helpful! Keep up the great work James boy!! Hold tight!!!
The headaches i used to have when training & still did untill today, what an easy way round it that you have shown, like i said in one of your other vidoes, your not the best at what you do but your in the top 1 lol, cheers pal
Your videos have been helpful specially for apprenticeships .
Thanks .
My head hurts ! i got up to the bit where your looking down the tool while lifting it ,wow all your help reminds me of a plumbers version of the thingy sailers use to read the stars ! So complicated ...thanks for vid ..
I've no idea about plumbing and couldn't understand the markings. A sign of a good instructional video is anyone can understand it. This is the 3rd video I've watched and still don't understand the markings.
You did this in a really simple and easy way! Was doing a much more difficult way previously! Thanks!
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These videos are so entertaining, great fun. Can you do a video on how to deal with older plumbing, like cast iron and lead drain pipes? How do you do the connections, say, on a bad toilet flange. I've only dealt with plastic but in the community I'm in now, older plumbing is very common.
Thank you very much. you have out- taught my tutor who could not explain better. you rock.
I have a very old pipe bender which has measurements around the former arch, mark the pipe with a felt tip and line it up on the set and perfect offsets. It has imperial and metric and I bought it at a trade fare in the 80s
Top stuff. Whatever works for you!
I struggled loads with this at college, gonna try this method next time, hopefully it would cure me of this curse lol Great vid :)
+Spread I Like Hey no worries fella. How'd it go?
+plumberparts Much better this time, I tried it without the vise as well, took a couple attempts but I nailed it in the end. I'm working on different copper assemblies at the moment, using bends and fittings etc. I'm enjoying it more than I thought :)
This really helped me pull offsets for my new toilet and kitchen run
Great detailed explanation so thanks a bunch for that. I have this exact job to do on a bathroom refurb so this is going to come in very handy. Thanks again and keep up the very useful and entertaining vids.
Brilliant video full of enthusiasm and instills confidence in the task about to be performed. Excellent.
I like the angles etched on your bender! I’ll have to copy that
why don't they teach it like this at college..... if id watched this before my final assessment id have flown through it
Yeah I never know why either....
+Soul Flex Digital
At colleges in the UK, they (in my experience of learning and teaching) teach the use of the "McEown Table".
I had a "discussion" with one of the older members of college staff about why they did that, and he said it was because it was easy, and worked... Which it simply doesn't, or doesn't always, since it's based on a bend radius to tube diameter of 4:1, to which not every bending machine adheres. My own benders (both of them) are 3.5:1, for instance, as were the ones at the college I taught at. That means the McEown table is generally useless. (it doesn't mean the principle is useless, because it can be modified to suit your own bender) it just means the data on the table does not suit the benders. The "hook" on a bender can be different from another, too, and that can affect where a bend starts to form, which in turn alters its relationship with other bends.
The amount of good tube I've seen consigned to scrap because of incorrect methods being taught...
I'll be using the 2 ruler rule next week at college after watching this.
@@Daves1681 or maybe a square one
You're doing a great job mate.Well done and pls keep doing it!!!! Cheers
Will do!!!!
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This will help so much and be way easier in college thanks for the video great videos as usual. :)
thanks for the explanation.
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I’m doing plumbing at the moment at college and that’s the one thing that gets me I can do the whole thing then the offset fucks me over . I over bend it and put me out on the whole thing I did . Tutor made me do it all again . Can you do some more of those with other measurements video was really helpful
your vids are the best mate!!!! great stuff thanks!!!!
Great video, just what I needed. Thank you!
Very helpful I’m training to be gas engineer
Neat trick, nice shed, thanks.
Brilliant Videos , thanks always my first point of call for all plumbing help x
For the international audience, if you find yourself having problems with this please ensure you have the most important element to hand, otherwise it will all go to pot: A good hot mug of fresh tea.
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Hi James, do you have a video, that covers how to measure between fittings? Calculating the fitting allowance on 15 and 22 copper? I am constantly cutting off slivers of pipe. Anything that shows how to work it out would be great. Thanks. Sarah
so funny mate got a laugh and learn at the same time that s good,thanks for tips
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Great video. Quick question though, how do you sort small offsets, of say 20mm? On the benders I have you can’t get the pipe into the grip for less than 25mm
excellent. Thanks very much.
this is for only soft copper? or can you bend hard copper with this tool. i really like that tool.
In America we have the Uniform Plumbing Code and in it it says "no pipe shall be bent or stressed."
That's what fittings are for.
Was wondering why you don't see bent pipe in America - just fittings. It'd seem easier if bending was allowed.
Please can you demonstrate off set in three fold.
can you show us how to pull a semi cross over bend. I have tried watching other videos but they don't seem as easy to follow as yours
Your better off soldering in the elbows if you want long term reliability.... Bending pipes will stretch and weaken the copper...over time with water turbulence at the bends, that will be the first place you will develop leaks..
brilliant mate thanks from cumbria
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Thanks James helpful video
Thanks for this video Bro!I just learned something new, Good job!!!
how about a video on how to run a rad into a bay window with surface mounted copper? bend or solder?
Very helpful. Many thanks!
Good video to help the beginners. I don't know how you find the time to upload all the videos, well done. I'm sorry to have to mention this, but as one of the things that bugs me, can you please stop referring to the GUIDE as a FORMER.
The FORMER is the large aluminium casting fixed to the bending machine, in which the copper pipe is placed. The GUIDES are the separate parts (15 or 22mm) of the bending machine that are placed onto the pipe and under the roller to GUIDE the pipe around the FORMER. Picky I know, but that's the kind of guy I am.
Same applies to rulers and rules, as per Aaron Lee's comments earlier, although I have to confess I sometimes call a rule a ruler (I said picky but not perfect). Keep up the good work.
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Thanks
wickid channel mate this really helped me during my lv.1 plumbing course and still helps cheers. :D
No worries mate, glad you like it!
would you use a 30degree over something small and would you use a 45degree over something medium and would you use a 60 over something big
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Thanks Dave, glad to help mate!
Excellent video and advise. 👍👍
very good video!
Great video mate cheers
Excellent series of Videos - Thanks !
I have a Pipe-Bending Question - Assuming there is the Space and Accessability to install the Bent Pipe/s how many bends is it possibleble to put into the same Pipe Run before it is advisable to use a Solder Joint,,,,???
For example : A run of three pipes with the same offsets and then another bend on all three - or - or one - or two bent at 90 degrees horizontal to the perpendicular and then another 90 degree to the horizontal,,,,???
Naturally though, it depends on the overall length of the pipe that is going to be used.
No, this isn't a joke question, it is a serious question based on my current project where my pipe runs are flying in all directions.
Any fool can cut pipes and solder in joints, but pipe bending is a reflection of the true professional.
You comment/s would be appreciated - Thanks.
Paul
Paul, you can use as many bends as you like within physical allowances the main one being can you fit the bends in. There's no weakening of pipe wall or degradation with every bend added. And agreed it does often look more professional. Thanks got your question!!! Regards, PP!
Just started my plumbing course and this helped loads 🤘
Question: the marks on the bender ie: the 45 mark....... do you line the end of the mark/line up with the centre of the pipe, or do you line the mark/line up so it’s parallel with the pipe, if that makes sense?
Cheers lad 🤘👍
Great vid 👍😅
Can you show a double off set mate please
So the line always has to be at the apex of the of the rim.dats where I was going wrong cheers
Quick question, I understand this might not be the correct forum, scenario is, 15 mm copper tails coming through an already tiled surface, which is hard grouted. Is there a plumbing solution to levelling up a bar mixer, using conventional plumbing parts, plug for you there. I have seen the offset threaded systems, but they fit into a female receiver. Is there a solution, that can also utilise the chrome cover plate kits. Many thanks for your considered opinion.
very useful mate!! cheers for that!!
No problem! Cheers dude!
Very helpful thanks pp im doing alot of LCS work at the minute any vids on them?
What about a measured length? How do you get the bend in the correct place. That's what's blagged by head tonight at college
Vice! That's what was looking for! Thx
Another great video. I assume this method would work the same on metal conduit? what about bend shrinkage ect?
Please show how to cut in middle of copper and connect it with compression just for sake of measurement.
I've found the easiest way to do it is once you've put your first bend in push the pipe all the way into the bender until the black guard or whatever you want to call it just hits the first bend on the pipe, then put in your second bend, don't need rulers etc, anyone else?, currently at college so ...
Hi Cuffy. That's fine for a shallow set, but a biggy like 40mm and above you'll need to measure. Cheers bro!
Great buddies, very helpful. I'm doing my Gas Safe course , three moths left, but I'm having trouble finding a company to complete the assessments with, any tip or advice. Thank Gee of GSD Construction & Maintenance Ltd.
Wouldn’t it be easier and less prone to error to use two 45° YF elbows with a short length of pipe inbetween?
brilliant stuff ,,I did that spot on 👍
Thanks dude, no worries!
Thanks, this will help me✌
Hello PP,
could you do vedio for pass-over offset or pass-over bends please.
What’s the secret to not ever kinking the pipe? Even going slow, or avoiding stop starting it can go sour.. any tips?
all your vids are excellent tips for plumbing. But can you give any advice on plumbers who are just qualified and are trying to get our foot in the door? It's really difficult finding a job as I'm qualified but have no experience!
Mike Mann Hi Mike, hows the work hunt going 5 years down the road?
Love these vid...makes job so easy
Cheers dude!
i know i was joking mate at home with tommy walsh has some competition haha take it easy mate
Say for example you're running a length of pipe along the skirting, and you have to put an offset in the pipe, what's the best way to measure out where the offset should start so you don't end up bending it in the wrong place.
Yeah thas wot I wanna know as well! *_*
jismn Hmmm, should do a vid on that...will add to the list. Cheers guys! PP!
What's the very smallest offset bend that can be done?
Will that 15mm former work with 10mm microbore with the insulation still on? That's like 13mm.
Thank so much for your video
I had to do bends kinda like this today but I used a bendy spring thing. Those benders look way better to use. Ts there a tool u can get to reshape the pipe end after u've cut it so as the spring can insert easier? I had to hacksaw the end off each time and it was a faff.
Cool vids btw eh mate
There's a tool called a De Burrer that should do the job
www.amazon.co.uk/Monument-365f-Int-Pipe-Burrer/dp/B0001P0FY0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1490541297&sr=8-4&keywords=DE+BURRER
Really helped thanks 👍🏻
Hi I'm replacing a single radiator for a double and pipes need to come forward a bit from wall and are coming up out of a concrete floor. I will be draining system off first as a precaution.
Any advice on how to bend them forward say an inch or inch and a half.
(Taking valves off heating pipe small iron bar down and gently bend????)
Please help.
plumber by trade but this always can as tricky to me...good video tho!!!
You could always buy a crossover and solder?
i learn while i laugh.....brilliant
Absolute legend
You got more lines on your bender than clapham junction.
Never normally have a flat surface and two rulers, plus usually working to a tight dead line, I pretty much eyeball all mine which is why they aren't that good. Would love to be a proper plumber where you have time to do the job properly.
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I'm not a plumber mate!!
+Danny Archer commercial kitchen fitter.
What is the heat mat
great information thanks god bless ...
Shouldn't the 40mm be measured fro the centre if the pipe.
That's what my textbooks say
top stuff fella, big thumbs up...