All true. And dont forget the pemudas who slaughtered ten thousands of innocent people with their bamboe spears. This was a dirty struggle for independence. And people should be honest about that.
@@blak_ket It happens in 1945 and the tragedy called "masa bersiap" and it was dark history that happens in our country, the youth killed european, chinese, and people who support the colonizers
Western colonialism framework was and is always the same. Dehumanise the oppressed, then do whatever you want with them. Our founding parents were labeled as extemists, radicals, barbars, terrorists, etc. They don't want you to fight back for your own freedom. Exactly like what they're doing with the Palestinians currently.
Sometimes, it's just not only Western colonialism which does this. See Japan for an example of how they massacred millions of lives in the Asia Pacific region.
@@neneklampir6664 nope the Muslims in Turkey were not colonial power, THEY SETTLEED THERE AND USED ALL THE RESOURCES FOR THE LOCAL. GO LEARN WHAT THE MEANING OF COLONIALISM BEFORE YOU BARKING HERE. Christians are still living free under the Ottoman. They even work as adviser to the Sultans and general in the military. Unlike the Dutch...how many Indonesian became Dutch Prime Minister during Dutch colonial? TELL ME!
And where is all this wealth now? Used to build all those “top 10 most cutest cities” no doubt, were the world, Indonesians included, come to to see and admire.
@@bloodndestroy nah, those towns were mostly made from money from the Baltic trade. And Whaling. Most of the colonial money disappeared into private pockets.
SORRY, DO NOT MISS THE NARRATIVE. THE NETHERLANDS DID NOT HAND OVER POWER TO THE INDONESIAN NATION, BUT THE NETHERLANDS WERE FORCED TO RECOGNIZE INDONESIAN INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE THE INDONESIAN NATION PERSISTENTLY DEFENDED WHAT THEY HAD DONE, NAMELY THE PROCLAMATION/DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
its also important to consider how much international pressure the Netherlands got, including getting their funding from the US through the Marshall plan pulled if they continue. Our mercy were at their whims but ultimately, what coerced the Dutch wasn't even our determination, it was how they we're gonna lose more money by keeping us. These chains still bound many today, and its important we need to not only persist but assist in releasing those capital chains of other nations, allowing a revolution for their independence aswell 🇵🇸
Itulah sebabnya saya merasa geli jika ada negara penjajah yang sombong dengan kekayaannya. Sadar diri, kaya karena merampok negara lain tapi sombong!!! 🤮🤮
@@apostatethegreat.9398 how is it illegal? We were living peaceful for decades before the rebels. Tell me what you were told. Nevertheless, there are diplomatic ways that the indonesian government would be happy to entertain such as referendum. Case in point east timor.
@@alexferdinansyah757 Living peacefully, like really ? Most Indonesian don't even consider Papuan humans, they called Papuan monkey, gorilla, sub Humans
@@alexferdinansyah757 Asked them the unwritten things about your country. If they not behave like what you know.. they ain't your people but pretend to be one
But the folks in West Papua have their own legit reason to call Indonesians "Colonists" and accuse them of perpetrating their own massacres. Same with East Timor...
@@goyoelburro so funny. Come to my island, Papua. I'm in Papua Puncak Jaya. And nobody army indonesia killed papua. You just believed provoke from west side AUSTRALIA-USA media. Because they have bad intention since Soekarno Era. Come dude. And you'll open your eyes about the fact in Papua. :
This is why Indonesia strongly defends the "Independence of the Palestinian People". As a country that once experienced 350 years of colonization by the Dutch, it understands how it feels to be colonized.
Nope Indonesia never won single war with dutch. They still paid war tribute from 1949 till 2003. Indonesia independence basicly not won by war but with treaty in 1949. OFC They declare it in 1945 but dutch still master of the land. And dutch invasion Forced Indonesia moved their capital twice and Soekarno got capture. And Indonesia became federal goverment.
Keturunan penjajah arab kilafah invasi yerusalem dan beranak pinak di daerah yg namanya palestina bukan penjajahan? tapi pas penduduk asli "kanaan" yahudi yg sekarang namanya palestina mau mendirikan negara disebut penjajah? entah zonk sejarah atau lagi halu 😂😂
The West would go bankrupt if all countries/islands invaded by Colonial Countries (UK, France, Spain, Portugal, Dutch, Belgium, etc) were sued/held accountable... and I'd love to see it
Nay, maaan, it's past. More importantly is we want to go up with our industrial and nobody whitey guy can bothering us....go to the future, if we have problem in environment or else, don't hope the price will be cheap, don't hope if we have do business as always like supply raw materials.... need big money for environmental, they must help not dictate. And we need good education so we MUST process every resource of our country!
Free West papua from illegal Indonesian occupation. If you support the Palestine, you must support independence west papua, otherwise your support doesn't have a much of a weight.
It was a quote fr either Fannie Lou Hammer or Dr. Martin Luther King . Pramoedya hy ngutip, jgn malu2in org indo dong Makanya banyakin literasi, supaya wawasan ga terkungkung hanya lokal doang
@@AsscherMazzelaar of course Indonesia also care about Papua, in Indonesia it is also trending #All_Eyes_On_Papua if you don't know, the Indonesian government's aid to Papua is also bigger than to Palestine, aid to Palestine is also the result of mutual cooperation of citizens in Indonesia, people like you, are people who always trying to find a gotcha moment on us, think that we as Indonesians do not think about the fate of our own people just because we call for independence of Palestine, listen carefully, humans can support Papua and Palestine at the same time without having to change sides
@@moshesafdie8628 Dari nama, foto, komen2nya dinchanel ini udh jelas si OP bukan orng indon, klo indon udh jelas karakterny mau literasinya seluas samudra ttep gk bisa ngilangin bau tengik indonya kyk klo komen selalu bikin illfeel suka ngomentari hal2 yg gk penting
What a coincidence-I was just at Rawagede a couple of weeks ago. The Rawagede Massacre was just one of many brutal acts, as violence was the lifeblood of Dutch colonialism in Indonesia. Yet, it’s the only one the Dutch government has begrudgingly acknowledged, and only because other massacres didn’t leave behind enough evidence. Even now, both the Dutch government and its people shirk accountability, refusing to give Indonesia the respect we deserve. They’re always the first to back any secession attempt, clearly hoping for Indonesia to crumble. After centuries of exploitation and suffering, it’s beyond disgraceful that they still deny us the basic dignity of living as a truly independent nation.
one guy, his name is 'Jeffrey Pondaag' sued the dutch government for the things that happened in Rawagede and he won!!! he brought over the children (who are really old now) to the netherlands to be a whitness because they saw their parents get murdered by the dutch military, the children recieved money, which is nowhere near enough for the traumas they got from the dutch military! but atleast they got recognition..
@Vincent.Vega_00 Lol, let’s not compare British puppet colonies to Indonesia, which fought a bloody war against the Dutch, the Allied Forces, and the British Indian army to defend our independence. Indonesia and the Netherlands now stand as equal, sovereign nations, and while fostering friendship is crucial, history shouldn’t be glossed over. The Dutch still have a responsibility to acknowledge their brutal past, continue repatriating stolen treasures, and own up to the countless massacres they committed while clinging to their largest colony. Some things shouldn’t be whitewashed for the sake of convenience.
@Vincent.Vega_00 What the King of the Netherlands apologized for was a single massacre in a single village, Rawagede, that took place when the Dutch attempted to reclaim Indonesia as a colony after we declared independence. This apology only came after relentless, sustained legal efforts on Indonesia’s part. Yes, credit to the Netherlands for finally acknowledging this isolated incident, but they continue to deny many other atrocities committed during the colonial period, citing a convenient “lack of evidence.” History may be in the past, but such suffering shouldn’t be ignored or minimized. And if you’re going to bring up Timor-Leste, then yes, as an Indonesian, I feel regret and guilt. I’m not only willing but ready to express that regret personally to every East Timorese I meet. While Indonesia and Timor-Leste now cooperate as friendly neighbors, the scars remain, and I firmly support the East Timorese government’s right to urge ours to formally recognize these painful chapters of history. Unlike certain cowardly racists in the West who dodge accountability, I am neither ashamed nor afraid to admit where we’ve gone wrong and to do better.
If Indonesia is a 12-minute video, Japan only colonized it for 6 to 7 seconds. So please stop saying that this video is anti-west propaganda just because you don't see much of Japanese atrocities. Both are atrocious, but The Netherlands just did it for longer.
@@P121N6 Nah but the dutch actually developed our country infrastructure wise. Japan just came here to actually enslave us, but good thing they're chill now and on the side of democracy
My wife is from Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi, and she has family who lived through the Japanese occupation who frequently state that the Japanese in 3 years were worse than the Dutch in 300, for what it's worth.
Isnt it strange that west is telling us that they have changed and abandoned their col-onial past yet we see the the same countries which are staunch supporters of is ra el. And now their new reasosn is, 3,000 yrs ago they used to live in pa le stine. They never ran out of reason to co l o nize natives. He ll indeed has been created with a purpose
Politics is much more complicated. I feel like in order to fully understand the process you actually have to work within thee government. sadly war was never fair and it is sad, but it happens. same thing happened in every war. just different reasoning
they supported our independence. who do you think the dutch were pressured by? ofcourse respect to our founding fathers played a major role for external support
Becauase the majority of the Isr colonisers where from Arabic countries and the USSR countries, not the west. There is literally a wikipage about where the colonisers came from.
A good explanation video, although short, but at least it describes a little of the many sufferings that our grandparents experienced during the colonial period and the struggle for independence. Today, August 17 2024, marks our 79th independence day. Even though we have not yet achieved our country's ideals, but today is beter than before, and we are confident in our future, because we believe in the generations to come. Indonesia, which before independence was a poor country even though it had abundant natural resources, has now become a developing country that is greater than in previous eras. We have become the 13th most powerful military country in the world, and the Netherlands is now in 40th place. We are very serious about loving our country and very serious about protecting our beloved country. If anyone dares to mess with Indonesian sovereignty, Indonesian soldiers are ready to die fighting on the front lines for Indonesia, and if the Indonesian people are needed to join in the fight, we are willing to die defending Indonesia. Our grandparents still clearly remember their wounds from the past. Even though the Dutch have apologized to Indonesia, this apology will never be enough until the Dutch actually pay back all the losses they have caused, because their apology is only a formality. We Indonesians do not feel that sincerity.
only indonesian people (surabaya city east java) who fought allied forces + dutch in open war, in 1945 after they won WW2, and indonesians just dont give af about allied forces...
@@deuscaritasest1278 it is a very costly open war after all the dutch and the briitish had the technological, industrial and economic advantage compared to a "backwater" country called Indonesia. They have to resort to a scorched earth tactics in Surabaya, Bandung and many other places, doing guerilla hit-and-run tactics in many regions. The Indonesian military/resistance even coalesced into one big force and did something similar to Tet offensive (on a smaller scale cause the Indonesians don't have any backing unlike the Vietnamese so we don't have as many weapons and ammunitions), doing an all out offensive on the city of Yogyakarta which was full of international delegations at the time of the offensive. Added with huge diplomatic efforts by Indonesian delegations abroad we were able to garner support internationally and win using diplomatic efforts. This offensive is done to send the message to the international community that indonesian resistance still exist and will keep on fighting even while on a disadvantageous position. Many of the guerilla warfare in Vietnam is inspired from the Indonesian fight of independence and they learned from a military tactic book made by one of our general (Sudirman). The Vietnamese is even more adept on guerilla warfare and improved upon the tactics that were used by the Indonesians and made guerilla warfare famous by beating the US (albeit with communist industrial backing providing them weapons, but then again their opponent is the US, the biggest military power after WW2).
Yup. After three centuries of atrocities, culminating between 1945 and 1949 without ever being fully held accountable, the Dutch now host the International Criminal Court. I can't help but smile at the irony. Perhaps this serves as a way to ease their guilt, much like other former colonial powers 😊
@@Matthewjones960West Papua is a part of Indonesia. Their ancestors has fought together for the independence of our nation. There is no reason to oppress them. The development might be slow since they are on the border of our territory but we are still developing. And we are hoping it would get better. The part of small groups asking to part with us is no way a representation of the whole population of West Papua. It might also be a propaganda just like what they did in China and other countries.
@@DesiranKehendak you really think every Dutch is an oppressive dictator or something. Also almost to no one is even alive from back then. Plus when the Dutch population actually got educated on what happened in Indonesia, they did not support it, far from it.
@@Vliegende_Tuinstoel no, that's not it. It's a synecdoche. Of course not every Dutch is a colonialist. That would be a simplistic sentiment. It's the government and also bunch of people who have nostalgic feelings towards colonialism. After all, most of Dutch progress in the past 3-4 centuries, the enormous wealth came from VOC, first and biggest multinational company in the world back then. And why they only recently officially recognized Indonesia's independence in 1945 not 1949? What happened between those years, the so called Indonesia war of Indpendence were so brutal, and until today, the proper repatriation hasn't been fulfilled. If you're a new generation of Dutch, I am quite assured you may have different views and opinions. But the old sentiments, some of them are still alive. And it' always a paradox, vice versa. You would be very surprised most of people here root for the Netherlands football team, in every Euro or World Cup. But that's really different discussion. My comment came from a reaction of a context of the video above, which aired on the 17th August, the official Indonesian independence day. That's all.
We have a national song called, Halo Halo Bandung. The lyric is about how we burn our own beloved city of Bandung to prevent the Dutch Army from took it and resuplying.
@@apostatethegreat.9398 where do you think the west papua insurgents gets their weapon from? That is right. Australia and USA. The one who hoping so much for west papua to separated from Indonesia is western power. West Papuan locals will be misarable under them.
@@apostatethegreat.9398 funnily enough they don't, Dutch administrator creates their national song. We true west papuan sang "Ijo jana moweri pasa bonya, andoro wasia jana moweri, ijo jana moweri". Taught by TNI Maj. Johannes Abraham Dimara fighting Dutch colonial forces in Etna Bay.
@@jokebapack2 West Papua have nothing common with muslims Indonesia, not even physical features. They deserve their own country. Indonesia is just an occupier, who needs to pack it's bags and mind it's own business.
Maybe if you can take a look deep into the "war of independence" closer there's many things that you can know how brutal the war was... Timedate is 1942 - 1947 Since national struggling until dutch military agression (2 times btw) And i will close my statement with this "If our struggle against the colonial enemy is fail, we surely understand that we always win, because my children, my offspring, will win the war for me" - early indonesian freedom movement
Mangknya kalo lagi pelajaran sejarah perhatiin dgn benar. Dulu kalian waktu sekolah merasa pelajaran sejarah gak penting. Sekarang aja giliran orang asing yg kasih tau situ ngomongnya "never fully learn"
@@surotno9967maklum masih terjajah, dibilangi sama guru/sesama Indonesia kurang sahih katanya. Baru kalo orang asing bilang, wah itu kata2nya berharga banget.
How about you(Indonesia) lead by example for giving Independence by letting people of West Papua choose their own destiny. Indonesia has occupied West Papua since 1960s by doing a scam referendum. Shame on you hypocrites. You are supporting Palestine freedom not because you both suffer from colonialism, but solely because of your shared Arabic cult ideology called Eslam. #FreeWestPapua from Indonesian occupation.
History education at school isn't supposed to be detail. It's back to us to search and learn more to educate ourselves, even after graduated from school.
Thank you Al-Jazeera for telling a little of Indonesia's history. That's why we understand and feel the pain experienced by countries oppressed by colonialization.
My grandfather from my mother side and his brothers & cousins fought as Revolutionary Fighter against the Dutch. While from my father side fought against Imperial Japan. I'm extremely proud of them all. ❤🇮🇩
Even the Netherlands, a small unassuming country of Europe was committing war crimes against people who never did anything to them or most likely knew they existed.
79 years in freedom still the people most live in poverty...and still all natural, resources, energies from soil only give benefit for the greeds and some elite peoples...freedom mean nothing.. people to afraid to make 🇮🇩✊REVOLUTION✊🇮🇩
my grandfather was fighting against dutch in 1947-1948. The dutch burn down his house...my grand mother was trimester pregnant with my father in her belly....they run away from their house to their maid house down in the rural village. My father was born during this time right beside the river they walk when running away. my grandfather was helping my grand mother in labour next to the river in Magelang Central Java. my father is still alive and kicking til now Alhamdulillah. My grand father said people would gather food and make public kitchen to support the freedom fighters.....
As Indonesian only a fool who takes western words seriously. They named us as a third wolrd country in the same sentence they told us that they will not pay back the things that they took. And surprisingly some of people in Indonesia acting somehow we need follow the west. Europe will be the poorest continent if they pay for whatever they took.
The history between Indonesia and the Netherlands is complex and deeply intertwined. While colonialism was undeniably wrong and had profound impacts, it's important to acknowledge that the world was very different in those times. Indonesia, as we know it today, was not yet a unified country, and there were conflicts among local kingdoms even before colonization. Today, Indonesia faces its own challenges, such as modern slavery, which deserves our attention and action. Addressing these issues is crucial for moving forward and building a better future.
when in history have people payed for what they took lol. you're strong you conquer, you're weak you get conquered. do the descsendents of the majapahit or sriwijaya empires also need to pay back all the things their ancestors took or conquered?
@@varo9491 this is one of the most stupid comment i ever heard. Conquered and been colonialize is different. When the Arab came to Spain, do they conquered them, yes. But do colonialize it, no. In fact they made one of the golden era at spain. See a different? If you even dont get it, then why bother to act like a smart guy?
Sure, if Indonesia also gives back everything they stole from Papua. Oh not to mention becoming different countries again since a united Indonesia is a Dutch colonial project. Its easy to moan if others have to give something back, but when you yourself have to give something back you refuse.
@@drunkenpumpkins7401 what the heck u talking indonesia is dutch colonial project? are u high? The moment we independent dutch and england even attacked indonesia for 2-3 years because they cannot let go colonialism. And about Papua, who the heck taking gold from papua? Indonesia? It's USA, hahaha what lies did your teacher teachs you? The more u speak, the more you proving my point, Western is bunch of maniac civilization. So barbaric. Pretending somewhat has a higher moral ground. Nazi is bad because they colonial white people. Same as Leopold or England at India. You have nothing to bark about ur history except blood and genocide
Love the spotlight on such atrocities, it's important that the world not forget about European Colonial legacy. I would recommend, however, making sure you know pronunciation before recording... Aceh is pronounced "ah-CHAY" - the "c" in Indonesian is almost always pronounced "ch"...
Just like anyone else in the world. China does the same, Russia does the same, Nigeria does the same, Japan does the same, Brazil does the same, ect, ect ect. Only a fool believes this is only a western problem.
Not really. They were already rich before that, while Indonesia didn't exist and was made out of different tribes fighting with eachother in wooden huts
@@ulfimaulanaghifari that's not true. They also held parts of India, Sri Lanka and Malaysia. But it's a classic example of "the rich getting richer." When the Dutch arrived in Indonesia, there wasn't a country, just primitive tribes/kingdoms fighting eachother. The Dutch arrived with more knowledge, skills and advanced weaponry. They had that because they were already way richer and more advanced in the first place. I'm not saying at that time The Netherlands didn't profit from it enourmous, but you got to place it in the right perspective. The tribes even invited the Netherlands on their islands, to fight wars for them, in exchange for their resources, which seemed not valuable by Indonesian tribes at the time.
@@Tr786hala the portugese and english were already there, and the tribes being savages and only fighting is a lie, just because they lived differently doesnt mean they were only fighting each other, things and fights happen but you make it seem like they were some savages, they had well established powerful communities and werent 'living in huts' the way you think, its even so that the dutch used a "divide and conquer" strategy to make them fight each other and get control in the regions, because the Mataram Sultanate was very powerful, even later the dutch would get local rulers addicted to opium and would stop supplying them if they didnt do what they say, for example raising taxes they had to pay to the dutch. tribes would never invite the dutch to their islands if it was not for support against the portugese or political reasons against other kingdoms, which the dutch would gladly help them, to also start to control those islands territories, however youre trying to justify it, the dutch were WRONG they didnt have the right to come to countries miles away and steal land, enslave and kill the people, commit genocide, force their religions and everything else they did..
Orang Eropa terutama belanda harus ingat dan malu dari mana sumber kekayaan mereka, kami bangsa Indonesia tidak akan lupa atas kekejian dan kejahatan mereka. Seperti halnya roda yang berputar semoga atas izin Allah giliran kami yang akan maju dan sejahtera menggantikan mereka.
people are forgetting that instead of getting reparations Indonesia literally had to pay billions to Netherlands for its independence to be internationally recognised.
Even With Thousands of Apologies, the Netherlands Can Never Be Forgiven. By citing the dark history of the past, the Dutch and other European people will not dare to commit racism against Indonesians.
Besides the Dutch, who are the colonists who killed Indonesians on a large scale? The Japanese occupation of Indonesia (1942-1945), there were many reports about the suffering and death experienced by the Indonesian people. Estimates of the number of Indonesian deaths during the Japanese occupation vary, but some sources say that between 4 and 10 million Indonesians died as a result of military campaigns, forced labor, and food shortages caused by Japanese occupation. Japanese occupation also led to very poor conditions including forced labor, political oppression, and a serious lack of food resources. These figures are approximate, as official records and detailed statistics from the period are not always available.
theres also a saying alot in history use, that the Japanese colonial period was more brutal than 300 years of Dutch colonialism. The severity they inflicted despite their assistance to unite us is still ignored to this day..
I am Dutch, 58 years old. I remember this was sort of used as an excuse when we were taught about it in school. In general the Dutch role was tiptoed around, we never got a good understanding of Dutch colonialism in school. But the Japanese role was stressed as bad. Like, we weren't that bad, they should have been happy with us occupying them, look what they got in return for their ungrateful rebelion!
Precies! En dat eromheen draaien en smoesjes bedenken doen Nederlanders nu ook om de misdaden in Israël goed te praten. Maw die minderwaardige moslims vragen erom..
@@Northmenn that 4-10 millions is combined from the period after comparing population data. So its combination of ww2 and the subsequent national revolution when fighting the Dutch.
Interesting video. A few notes: - the Dutch ruled over many parts via Indonesian rulers (regents) who were as corrupt, if not more corrupt than the Dutch themselves, - don't forget many Indonesians served in the Dutch colonial army (KNIL), - do notice that the Indonesian independence movements prior to 1941 posed no real threat to Dutch colonial rule. It weren't the Indonesians who overthrew it, but the Japanese. - it is likely that under 3,5 years Japanese rule more Indonesians died (forced labour, massacres) than under 3,5 century Dutch rule. That doesn't make the Dutch good, but it should be noted that Japanese rule was far more brutal. - On 9:39 there is a photo of the Bersiap (1945) where Indonesian youngsters went on a killing spree killing and burning down the homes of many Europeans and Chinese, - nowadays the Dutch do not widely glorify the atrocities of the past: it is often debated, also the statue of JP Coen. - as of today the Netherlands has made many apologies, by either king and/or government for its colonial past.
Many Indonesian that served as KNIL is not yet or not part of "Indonesian". They all mostly molluccas people whom prefer to be part of the Dutch. Thus, the diaspora mollucams still a lot at Netherlands up till today. 😅
This is the content of the opening of the 1945 Constitution of the Republic of Indonesia "That independence is the right of all nations and therefore, colonialism in the world must be abolished, because it is not in accordance with humanity and justice." That's why we support Palestine because mufti from Palestine recognize our country one year before our independence
So you ignored how corrupted local politicians that time is? Even nowadays corruptions did by so many of the locals.
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So weird seeing this. I'm Dutch. Like 100% Dutch, both parents, all 4 grandparents. I love Indonesians. I think they're an incredible people and I respect them and their culture a lot. Love meeting Indonesians online in games and such, always cool to talk to, love the country. I can't apologize for something I did not do, but I do look at my kinsmen and wonder how they could bring themselves to do this. I think it is all just via dehumanization, like any conflict or invasion. I am glad it is over and I am sad it happened. Love you Indonesia.
As much as I dislike the Brits empire. They were the lesser evil from the Dutch. The only massacre they did was Batang Kali. The Japanese was much worse
@@sovietroll7880 in Malaya the Uk military were just “observers” of atrocities. While rightists murdered trade unionists and strikers. My cousin served in British Army in Malaya and returned home unwell from what he’d seen. Today it’s called PTSD
@@begobolehsjwjangan2359 There are some Indonesian regions where Islam is not the majority religion at all. Like North Sulawesi and the Highlands of Sumatra they follow the religion of their colonizers. Actually Spain was defeated by the Native Filipinos and Spain at that time also faced war with Americans but Spain preferred to surrender to their fellow Caucasians the Americans.
@@carlag.9914 "Like North Sulawesi and the Highlands of Sumatra they follow the religion of their colonizers." - they still worship the Dutch until today and always claim that the dutch is better than today native government. you cant help that. when you are doctrined since very young age that your god is a white caucasian male from Jerusalem with blonde hair and blue eyes, you will worship any white people you see. this is what you call mental slavery. the same goes with 'why christians will always support israel by default', it's because their god is an israeli man. in every israelis' vein run the same blood as their god. thus every single drop of israeli's blood is sacred. in the other hand Islam doctrine is 'All men are equal before God' this is why hindu, christianity, and yudaism hate islam.
@@carlag.9914 ironically, it is these people who fought the Dutch the most. There were dozens of army generals from the Batak people of Sumatra and several political leaders from North Sulawesi such as Dr. Sam Ratulangi, very few Indonesian nationalist could be more magnanimous than him. Overall, the role of the Catholics and, probably a lil bit to a lesser degree, the non Catholic christian, cant be understated in the fight for independence.
Fun fact : Those apologies from Dutch King and PM came at time when Indonesian economy (GDP) surpass the Dutch. The wind is changing indeed. Add that Indonesia still whole, not crumble apart like Yugoslavia, to much dismay of many Dutch.
As an indonesian i must be grateful and thankful to my ancestor who fighting for Indonesian independence. Without their effort and sacrifice, me and hundred million of Indonesian, can't live in freedom and has equal right in humanity, as other nation in the world. 🇮🇩
Think it was Ambon actually. And no ofcourse no compensation..lol..its usa🤢 "CIA pilots began bombing Indonesia's outer islands on April 19, 1958, striking military and civilian targets, killing hundreds of civilians and fomenting much anger among the Indonesian populace."
Sadly, some Indonesians today are trying to potray the Dutch as "Saviour" because one little fact that one of the Dutch general pay some sums for the loss of life during the construction of Panarukan road.
i mean it makes sense to be thankful to the dutch for some things bc after all without the dutch indonesia wouldnt' exist. Indonesia is made of many different ethnic and religious groups. the only reason they came together to create a nation was bc they had a common unifying enemy- the dutch. if the dutch never invaded indonesia today would probably be malaysia or different countries like java or bali
@@varo9491 Well, that analogy I can understand, but it's not the case, they literally trying to potray the Dutch as a "Innocent" Who literally never opress or butcher Indonesian.
It's not your fault. It was something done by someone from your country centuries ago. The King of the Netherlands already apologized as well, and people from the NL is usually well-received in Indonesia. If anything, just continue to make a good connection between two countries and make good impacts for the society ❤
The British fought against the Indians, the Indonesians, but also against the Jews in 1948. The British armies teamed up with the Arabs against the Jews!
During the Indonesian war for independence, our weapons were mostly sharpened bamboo, while our opponents already had astra weapons (nuclear)... As a result, many cities were deliberately burned (scorched earth, lebur geni)... Rather than being used by the Dutch colonialists, the cities ended up being burned (like Bandung city, etc)... And the victims are millions... Luckily KNIL and nationalist united together...
Kisah sejarah bambu runcing memang ada, tapi itu opsi terakhir dan hanya cerita hiperbola untuk membangkitkan patriotisme. Akhir kerajaan majapahit dan awal era kesultanan di Indonesia sudah menggunakan arquebus dan musket, ada juga meriam. Di aceh, mataram, demak, ternate, tidore, dsb. Malah spanyol sendiri mengakui senjata pasukan kesultanan Ternate dan Tidore kala itu setara dengan Jerman. Ketika spanyol dan portugis berjaya mengkolonisasi amerika dan timur tengah, disini mereka kewalahan dan ditendang keluar oleh pasukan dan armada kesultanan. Kalau pingin bukti sejarah yang kuat, searching saja bukti-bukti perjuangan rakyat Indonesia di Museum luar negeri, biar mindset berubah kalau kita ini bukan bangsa primitif. Abad 16 orang jawa saja udah bisa bikin senjata api sendiri.
Unfortunately, we as Dutch citizens don't even get to know these atrocities. They make it seems the Dutch we mere making trade and helping the people. I rather see both countries work together to work on stronger position and for the Dutch to help to get the Indonesian running at a same level as the western world.
Very sad when you consider the Dutch casualties and brutality metered out to them by the Nazis, one would think they would have maintained some empathy towards the Indonesians.
@@queen84sasha not that indonesians are innocent of that either-but people like you love to use the bersiap period as if that excuses all the past atrocities of the NL
@@Sil2iconDreamsStop using Dutch as an excuse to colonise, oppress and commit g€n∆cide in West Papua or other regions. The victims of the Bersiap were all non combatant civilians, majority were women, children, elderly and ethnic minorities like Chinese and Eurasians. Keep up your LIES. Because we all know LIES is all you have to justify your actions.
Shameful hypocrisy by Al Jazeera. how to take them seriously again. On 17 Augustus we remind the whole World about the occupation of West Papua by 🇮🇩.. no double standards.. there was NO independence in Indonesia.. Free Papua
West Papua is very free... they are part of free country Indonesia.. You dont believe it ? You can go to west papua and see for your self.. we Indonesian have nothing to hide.
@@vk-zd7qq bro as a wast papuan were free as shit here and also if it were to gain independence...we would honestly crumble in economy since the laws are non existent here
Great reporting! We need more people to be aware of the atrocities of colonization and how they tried to defend it, similar to what is happening in Palestine.
Many Dutch felt angry and lost many friends and family. I don't talk anything right, far from it, but a lot of soldiers were just regular people who wanted some kind of revange. Since we never got it from Germany, so they acted it up on the native population.
They support Palestinians yet they turn a blind eye to papuans. Oh wait its because they have kulit hitam (dark skin) and their religious beliefs are different so they dont have much empathy towards them.
Thank you for uploading this on our Independence Day. It is a beautiful gift. Correction. The Aceh Sultanate, the "ceh" part is like the "ch" sound in chicken.
thanks for sharing this story of the birth of our nation. Though there are so many contexts that should be added, this video focusing on the Dutch's crime and a kinda good place to start. I think the dutch is getting better in acknowleding their past. hundreds of historical artifacts and archeological finding is being returned to Indonesia, so that's a good sign, but we'll see if we can improve from here. oh, btw its ACEH (the c pronounced as 'ch' in chair, not hard 'k')
Indonesia a country as large as whole Europe with 300 million population blames Netherland a country so small one don't even know it exists and with population less than few million, for all its woes.
@@kuchingkuchingalmost everyone knows the Netherlands exist Its one of the most famous countries in the world especially for its size But not Indonesia even tho its massive Ask anyone in America and canada and Mexico Or Eastern Europe if they know about Indonesia existence and they will i don't know what county that is
Be very careful Indonesia, Australia is trying to get the US to back it for US Pacific Deputy. Australia wants to be a Pacific power and flex its muscles. Keep in mind the AUKUS deal.
the AUKUS is a nuisance and a potential threat for ASEAN nations in general, but the Ozzies is always seen to be the lapdog of the US. As long as we treat them like what they are, and focus more on balancing the overlords as we have been doing for decades, we should be okay.
@GongGong-zk8qs a very small population of Macassarnese. It has no impact on the grander scope of things. If this historical fact gives pride to aboriginal australian, more power to them!
@GongGong-zk8qs nah... Indonesian will for sure get along with the native but not the "white criminals" even if they established trade the whites will be the one in power.
indonesia care about science not religion, we fought independence from apartheid nation, even if we are Christian we would still look at the dutch the same way.
@@whanua98 nahh, most of christian are pro dutch, 200.000 christian moved to netherlands after indonesia decleared it's independence. They are former dutch employed
@@BodohYono repatriated not moved which gave birth to stereotype there are still European in Indonesia after WW2, and it's 2 million, not 200.000 that are repatriated to the netherland, Christians are the most suffer from colonialism than Muslim society because they don't get any welfare, most black/brown ppl that are graduated from leiden or Europe school in java are 100% Muslim, hajj was facilitated, etc. and it's expensive, unfortunately, it never about Christianity, netherland were liberal they only care about power.
Indonesia lost the war but won their independence using diplomatic way. Indonesia fought the dutchs to forced them to enter the negotiation table. The US threat to kick the Netherlands out of the Marshall plan helped alot for Indonesian independence
Highly recommend anyone interested to read Bumi Manusia/This Earth of Mankind by Pramoedya Ananta Toer which portrays the difficulties of colonialism on Indonesia
I have pictures of my great grandad and grandmother from back in the day. My grandad was stationed there and eventually met my grandmother. I also still have the papers that eventually declared my grandmother a Dutch citizen. I find these papers especially super interesting. I also think we should never ever forget about our history. Imo we should actively teach it in our schools. Cuz it should never be allowed to happen again
For a country as tiny as Netherland to set up a global imperium is quite impressive. For Indonesia not so much. You know the expression; all is fair in love and war.
And today these people lecture us about human rights
Thats how they wash their hands.
@@BodohYono Netherlands in particular have ICC, luckily Indonesia do not recognize them. Can smell the hypocrisy 7k miles away.
Lecturing, MEANWHILE still doing this in Africa countries...
So sickening 🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬
@@BodohYono funnily enough ICC is in the hague...Indonesia can smell the hypocrisy 7000 miles away.
Even today these western countries aren't any different.
don't forget the british and dutch also re-entered indonesia and indonesia also fought against the british and their allies in East Java
The British were accompanied by the Indians.
And nippon (japan) army.
All true. And dont forget the pemudas who slaughtered ten thousands of innocent people with their bamboe spears.
This was a dirty struggle for independence. And people should be honest about that.
@@trifelife89Source?
@@blak_ket It happens in 1945 and the tragedy called "masa bersiap" and it was dark history that happens in our country, the youth killed european, chinese, and people who support the colonizers
Western colonialism framework was and is always the same. Dehumanise the oppressed, then do whatever you want with them. Our founding parents were labeled as extemists, radicals, barbars, terrorists, etc. They don't want you to fight back for your own freedom. Exactly like what they're doing with the Palestinians currently.
Sometimes, it's just not only Western colonialism which does this. See Japan for an example of how they massacred millions of lives in the Asia Pacific region.
Muslim colonialism also. Look what ottoman did to christians in turkey
They protect the christian thats the fact@@neneklampir6664
Indonesians were never innocent; even today, they are colonizing West Papua
@@neneklampir6664 nope the Muslims in Turkey were not colonial power, THEY SETTLEED THERE AND USED ALL THE RESOURCES FOR THE LOCAL. GO LEARN WHAT THE MEANING OF COLONIALISM BEFORE YOU BARKING HERE. Christians are still living free under the Ottoman. They even work as adviser to the Sultans and general in the military. Unlike the Dutch...how many Indonesian became Dutch Prime Minister during Dutch colonial? TELL ME!
VOC is still the richest company ever in human history... all its wealth came from its colonialization in Indonesia.
Not all of it.
The VOC also had holdings in South Africa, India and Japan.
And where is all this wealth now? Used to build all those “top 10 most cutest cities” no doubt, were the world, Indonesians included, come to to see and admire.
@@bloodndestroy nah, those towns were mostly made from money from the Baltic trade. And Whaling.
Most of the colonial money disappeared into private pockets.
@@Jack-Hands Indonesia aka The Dutch East Indies was the CROWN JEWEL of all Dutch colonies . Queen Wilhemina refused to let it go.
@@Jack-Handsnot india. That brittish east indies company.
SORRY, DO NOT MISS THE NARRATIVE. THE NETHERLANDS DID NOT HAND OVER POWER TO THE INDONESIAN NATION, BUT THE NETHERLANDS WERE FORCED TO RECOGNIZE INDONESIAN INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE THE INDONESIAN NATION PERSISTENTLY DEFENDED WHAT THEY HAD DONE, NAMELY THE PROCLAMATION/DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
forced by us more exactly, because they funding reparartion of eu after ww2 including dutch.
in other word:
Indonesian earned the independence.
not given.
its also important to consider how much international pressure the Netherlands got, including getting their funding from the US through the Marshall plan pulled if they continue. Our mercy were at their whims but ultimately, what coerced the Dutch wasn't even our determination, it was how they we're gonna lose more money by keeping us.
These chains still bound many today, and its important we need to not only persist but assist in releasing those capital chains of other nations, allowing a revolution for their independence aswell 🇵🇸
YES
@@VioletenistWell Netherlands received war reparations from Indonesia around the same amount as that marshall plan.
Itulah sebabnya saya merasa geli jika ada negara penjajah yang sombong dengan kekayaannya. Sadar diri, kaya karena merampok negara lain tapi sombong!!!
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💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Ada yang mulai miskin, tapi menyalahkan imigran
we were already rich dmbass
@@JohnWaseso-u1d Ini kerana, British makan makanan haram. Hasil rompak dan rogol di negara orang lain.
@@r.a.h7682By robbing and killing and they called another savages.
The irony.
I'm an Indonesian. At the time the dutch called us the extrimists. A slander that equates to calling us terrorists in recent era.
You are doing/calling exactly the same to West Papuan. Free West Papua from Illegal Indonesian occupation.
@@apostatethegreat.9398 how is it illegal? We were living peaceful for decades before the rebels. Tell me what you were told.
Nevertheless, there are diplomatic ways that the indonesian government would be happy to entertain such as referendum. Case in point east timor.
@@alexferdinansyah757 Living peacefully, like really ? Most Indonesian don't even consider Papuan humans, they called Papuan monkey, gorilla, sub Humans
@@alexferdinansyah757
Asked them the unwritten things about your country.
If they not behave like what you know.. they ain't your people but pretend to be one
@@apostatethegreat.9398Free Kashmir
That is why most Indonesians understand what Palestinians are facing right now.
Also Ireland understands that.
But the folks in West Papua have their own legit reason to call Indonesians "Colonists" and accuse them of perpetrating their own massacres.
Same with East Timor...
@@goyoelburroyess,agreed,but it's the US who told soekarno to invade west papua...,it's always them behind every chaos,it's them,the white people
@@goyoelburro so funny. Come to my island, Papua. I'm in Papua Puncak Jaya. And nobody army indonesia killed papua. You just believed provoke from west side AUSTRALIA-USA media. Because they have bad intention since Soekarno Era. Come dude. And you'll open your eyes about the fact in Papua. :
I do agree about the Indonesia invaded the east timor, but i can't agree with you in term of the west papua. @@goyoelburro
I admire Indonesian resistance against colonialism. Love from Uzbekistan. Free Palestine !
We Indonesians stand with Palestine. Independence for Palestine. ❤
papua merdeka juga 💪
Prindapan @@varo9491
Also for Papua then?
@@varo9491 yes, Papua merdeka dari Belanda krn Indonesia. MERDEKA INDONESIA RAYA💪🏼🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
@@muhammadichsan3081 can you tell your country to stop doing the same thing to Papua New Guinea? 🙏
This is why Indonesia strongly defends the "Independence of the Palestinian People". As a country that once experienced 350 years of colonization by the Dutch, it understands how it feels to be colonized.
And still so many sick people in Indonesia who support Israel, i can't believe how their brain works
Nope Indonesia never won single war with dutch.
They still paid war tribute from 1949 till 2003.
Indonesia independence basicly not won by war but with treaty in 1949.
OFC They declare it in 1945 but dutch still master of the land.
And dutch invasion Forced Indonesia moved their capital twice and Soekarno got capture.
And Indonesia became federal goverment.
also west Papua
When the arab army under rashidun caliphate invaded jewish city of jerusalem in 636 gave birth in area of palestine never called colonization 🤣
Keturunan penjajah arab kilafah invasi yerusalem dan beranak pinak di daerah yg namanya palestina bukan penjajahan? tapi pas penduduk asli "kanaan" yahudi yg sekarang namanya palestina mau mendirikan negara disebut penjajah? entah zonk sejarah atau lagi halu 😂😂
Palestine has the right to be independent 🇵🇸
Palestine is not native in Jerusalem, they should go back to Arab.
#damnright
@@suicasu3514 you have the right to say something stupid, but you didn't have to.
For decades
Yes indeed
Indonesia should sue the Dutch government for all the wealth they stole from Indonesia during the centuries of exploitation under colonial rule.
The West would go bankrupt if all countries/islands invaded by Colonial Countries (UK, France, Spain, Portugal, Dutch, Belgium, etc) were sued/held accountable... and I'd love to see it
Nay, maaan, it's past. More importantly is we want to go up with our industrial and nobody whitey guy can bothering us....go to the future, if we have problem in environment or else, don't hope the price will be cheap, don't hope if we have do business as always like supply raw materials.... need big money for environmental, they must help not dictate. And we need good education so we MUST process every resource of our country!
How would that work
Can you even sue a country
@@honeyfuntime Governments can and have been sued in the past.
Udah lewat jamannya, klo diperpanjangi mah tak bijak.
Proud of my anchestors who fought for independence.
Happy Independence day 17th August 🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨
Selamat Hari Kemerdekaan! 🇮🇩
Free West papua from illegal Indonesian occupation. If you support the Palestine, you must support independence west papua, otherwise your support doesn't have a much of a weight.
@@apostatethegreat.9398😂😂😂 its part of indonesia
U moron
We're all one people @@apostatethegreat.9398
You sure you have independence?
✌📿💯 "No man can be truly free until every man is free." ~ Pramoedya Ananta Toer ✊👍🤲
It was a quote fr either Fannie Lou Hammer or Dr. Martin Luther King . Pramoedya hy ngutip, jgn malu2in org indo dong
Makanya banyakin literasi, supaya wawasan ga terkungkung hanya lokal doang
free west papua
@@AsscherMazzelaar of course Indonesia also care about Papua, in Indonesia it is also trending #All_Eyes_On_Papua if you don't know, the Indonesian government's aid to Papua is also bigger than to Palestine, aid to Palestine is also the result of mutual cooperation of citizens in Indonesia, people like you, are people who always trying to find a gotcha moment on us, think that we as Indonesians do not think about the fate of our own people just because we call for independence of Palestine, listen carefully, humans can support Papua and Palestine at the same time without having to change sides
@@moshesafdie8628
Dari nama, foto, komen2nya dinchanel ini udh jelas si OP bukan orng indon, klo indon udh jelas karakterny mau literasinya seluas samudra ttep gk bisa ngilangin bau tengik indonya kyk klo komen selalu bikin illfeel suka ngomentari hal2 yg gk penting
@@TheOrionOracle
Stop killing hindus and christians in your own country before you talk about humanity
What a coincidence-I was just at Rawagede a couple of weeks ago. The Rawagede Massacre was just one of many brutal acts, as violence was the lifeblood of Dutch colonialism in Indonesia. Yet, it’s the only one the Dutch government has begrudgingly acknowledged, and only because other massacres didn’t leave behind enough evidence. Even now, both the Dutch government and its people shirk accountability, refusing to give Indonesia the respect we deserve. They’re always the first to back any secession attempt, clearly hoping for Indonesia to crumble. After centuries of exploitation and suffering, it’s beyond disgraceful that they still deny us the basic dignity of living as a truly independent nation.
one guy, his name is 'Jeffrey Pondaag' sued the dutch government for the things that happened in Rawagede and he won!!! he brought over the children (who are really old now) to the netherlands to be a whitness because they saw their parents get murdered by the dutch military, the children recieved money, which is nowhere near enough for the traumas they got from the dutch military! but atleast they got recognition..
@Vincent.Vega_00 Lol, let’s not compare British puppet colonies to Indonesia, which fought a bloody war against the Dutch, the Allied Forces, and the British Indian army to defend our independence. Indonesia and the Netherlands now stand as equal, sovereign nations, and while fostering friendship is crucial, history shouldn’t be glossed over. The Dutch still have a responsibility to acknowledge their brutal past, continue repatriating stolen treasures, and own up to the countless massacres they committed while clinging to their largest colony. Some things shouldn’t be whitewashed for the sake of convenience.
@Vincent.Vega_00 What the King of the Netherlands apologized for was a single massacre in a single village, Rawagede, that took place when the Dutch attempted to reclaim Indonesia as a colony after we declared independence. This apology only came after relentless, sustained legal efforts on Indonesia’s part. Yes, credit to the Netherlands for finally acknowledging this isolated incident, but they continue to deny many other atrocities committed during the colonial period, citing a convenient “lack of evidence.”
History may be in the past, but such suffering shouldn’t be ignored or minimized. And if you’re going to bring up Timor-Leste, then yes, as an Indonesian, I feel regret and guilt. I’m not only willing but ready to express that regret personally to every East Timorese I meet. While Indonesia and Timor-Leste now cooperate as friendly neighbors, the scars remain, and I firmly support the East Timorese government’s right to urge ours to formally recognize these painful chapters of history.
Unlike certain cowardly racists in the West who dodge accountability, I am neither ashamed nor afraid to admit where we’ve gone wrong and to do better.
If Indonesia is a 12-minute video, Japan only colonized it for 6 to 7 seconds.
So please stop saying that this video is anti-west propaganda just because you don't see much of Japanese atrocities.
Both are atrocious, but The Netherlands just did it for longer.
True. And it's said that the damage done by the Japanese in that period of time is equivalent or even more than the Dutch.
@@ieyazzu9297 The Japanese threw the frog into boiling water. The Dutch heat the frog along with the water until it reaches boiling point.
@@P121N6 Nah but the dutch actually developed our country infrastructure wise. Japan just came here to actually enslave us, but good thing they're chill now and on the side of democracy
Netherland was clinging in Indonesia for over 50 years, so yeah you're right
My wife is from Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi, and she has family who lived through the Japanese occupation who frequently state that the Japanese in 3 years were worse than the Dutch in 300, for what it's worth.
Isnt it strange that west is telling us that they have changed and abandoned their col-onial past yet we see the the same countries which are staunch supporters of is ra el. And now their new reasosn is, 3,000 yrs ago they used to live in pa le stine. They never ran out of reason to co l o nize natives. He ll indeed has been created with a purpose
Politics is much more complicated. I feel like in order to fully understand the process you actually have to work within thee government. sadly war was never fair and it is sad, but it happens. same thing happened in every war. just different reasoning
mizrahi jews have been living in the middle east so it's not strange at all actually
they supported our independence. who do you think the dutch were pressured by? ofcourse respect to our founding fathers played a major role for external support
Becauase the majority of the Isr colonisers where from Arabic countries and the USSR countries, not the west. There is literally a wikipage about where the colonisers came from.
A good explanation video, although short, but at least it describes a little of the many sufferings that our grandparents experienced during the colonial period and the struggle for independence.
Today, August 17 2024, marks our 79th independence day. Even though we have not yet achieved our country's ideals, but today is beter than before, and we are confident in our future, because we believe in the generations to come.
Indonesia, which before independence was a poor country even though it had abundant natural resources, has now become a developing country that is greater than in previous eras.
We have become the 13th most powerful military country in the world, and the Netherlands is now in 40th place.
We are very serious about loving our country and very serious about protecting our beloved country. If anyone dares to mess with Indonesian sovereignty, Indonesian soldiers are ready to die fighting on the front lines for Indonesia, and if the Indonesian people are needed to join in the fight, we are willing to die defending Indonesia.
Our grandparents still clearly remember their wounds from the past. Even though the Dutch have apologized to Indonesia, this apology will never be enough until the Dutch actually pay back all the losses they have caused, because their apology is only a formality. We Indonesians do not feel that sincerity.
only indonesian people (surabaya city east java) who fought allied forces + dutch in open war, in 1945 after they won WW2, and indonesians just dont give af about allied forces...
giga chad move
😂😂😂😂 claim
The other cities simply didn't have enough resources to fight
We were already squezzed dry by japanese
@@deuscaritasest1278 it is a very costly open war after all the dutch and the briitish had the technological, industrial and economic advantage compared to a "backwater" country called Indonesia. They have to resort to a scorched earth tactics in Surabaya, Bandung and many other places, doing guerilla hit-and-run tactics in many regions. The Indonesian military/resistance even coalesced into one big force and did something similar to Tet offensive (on a smaller scale cause the Indonesians don't have any backing unlike the Vietnamese so we don't have as many weapons and ammunitions), doing an all out offensive on the city of Yogyakarta which was full of international delegations at the time of the offensive. Added with huge diplomatic efforts by Indonesian delegations abroad we were able to garner support internationally and win using diplomatic efforts.
This offensive is done to send the message to the international community that indonesian resistance still exist and will keep on fighting even while on a disadvantageous position. Many of the guerilla warfare in Vietnam is inspired from the Indonesian fight of independence and they learned from a military tactic book made by one of our general (Sudirman). The Vietnamese is even more adept on guerilla warfare and improved upon the tactics that were used by the Indonesians and made guerilla warfare famous by beating the US (albeit with communist industrial backing providing them weapons, but then again their opponent is the US, the biggest military power after WW2).
the only country that made british army lost their 2 generals...even nazi cant do that
Yup. After three centuries of atrocities, culminating between 1945 and 1949 without ever being fully held accountable, the Dutch now host the International Criminal Court. I can't help but smile at the irony. Perhaps this serves as a way to ease their guilt, much like other former colonial powers 😊
and the Indonesians are now oppressing the West Papuans
@@Matthewjones960 that is true. But that's a different discussion, Matthew Jones : )
@@Matthewjones960West Papua is a part of Indonesia. Their ancestors has fought together for the independence of our nation. There is no reason to oppress them.
The development might be slow since they are on the border of our territory but we are still developing. And we are hoping it would get better.
The part of small groups asking to part with us is no way a representation of the whole population of West Papua.
It might also be a propaganda just like what they did in China and other countries.
@@DesiranKehendak you really think every Dutch is an oppressive dictator or something. Also almost to no one is even alive from back then. Plus when the Dutch population actually got educated on what happened in Indonesia, they did not support it, far from it.
@@Vliegende_Tuinstoel no, that's not it. It's a synecdoche. Of course not every Dutch is a colonialist. That would be a simplistic sentiment. It's the government and also bunch of people who have nostalgic feelings towards colonialism. After all, most of Dutch progress in the past 3-4 centuries, the enormous wealth came from VOC, first and biggest multinational company in the world back then. And why they only recently officially recognized Indonesia's independence in 1945 not 1949? What happened between those years, the so called Indonesia war of Indpendence were so brutal, and until today, the proper repatriation hasn't been fulfilled. If you're a new generation of Dutch, I am quite assured you may have different views and opinions. But the old sentiments, some of them are still alive. And it' always a paradox, vice versa. You would be very surprised most of people here root for the Netherlands football team, in every Euro or World Cup. But that's really different discussion. My comment came from a reaction of a context of the video above, which aired on the 17th August, the official Indonesian independence day. That's all.
We have a national song called, Halo Halo Bandung. The lyric is about how we burn our own beloved city of Bandung to prevent the Dutch Army from took it and resuplying.
Soon West papuan will create the same type of song regarding, Illegal Indonesian occupation since 1960s. #FreeWestPapua.
@@apostatethegreat.9398 where do you think the west papua insurgents gets their weapon from? That is right. Australia and USA. The one who hoping so much for west papua to separated from Indonesia is western power. West Papuan locals will be misarable under them.
@@apostatethegreat.9398 funnily enough they don't, Dutch administrator creates their national song.
We true west papuan sang "Ijo jana moweri pasa bonya, andoro wasia jana moweri, ijo jana moweri". Taught by TNI Maj. Johannes Abraham Dimara fighting Dutch colonial forces in Etna Bay.
@@abcddef2112 Lol you are not Papuan, you are Typical Indonesian occupier, acting like West papuan.
@@jokebapack2 West Papua have nothing common with muslims Indonesia, not even physical features. They deserve their own country. Indonesia is just an occupier, who needs to pack it's bags and mind it's own business.
Maybe if you can take a look deep into the "war of independence" closer
there's many things that you can know
how brutal the war was...
Timedate is 1942 - 1947
Since national struggling until dutch military agression (2 times btw)
And i will close my statement with this
"If our struggle against the colonial enemy is fail, we surely understand that we always win, because my children, my offspring, will win the war for me"
- early indonesian freedom movement
I love Indonesia, amazing country🇮🇩 I need to go back out there and film!!
Thank you for making this video, in which many Indonesian it self, like my self, never fully learn about this tragedy.
Mangknya kalo lagi pelajaran sejarah perhatiin dgn benar. Dulu kalian waktu sekolah merasa pelajaran sejarah gak penting. Sekarang aja giliran orang asing yg kasih tau situ ngomongnya "never fully learn"
@@surotno9967maklum masih terjajah, dibilangi sama guru/sesama Indonesia kurang sahih katanya. Baru kalo orang asing bilang, wah itu kata2nya berharga banget.
@@surotno9967 perhatian kok, tapi dulu pembantaian di daerah Jawa ini nggak pernah diajarin dengan detail. Nggak tau kalo kurikulum sekarang gimana.
How about you(Indonesia) lead by example for giving Independence by letting people of West Papua choose their own destiny. Indonesia has occupied West Papua since 1960s by doing a scam referendum. Shame on you hypocrites. You are supporting Palestine freedom not because you both suffer from colonialism, but solely because of your shared Arabic cult ideology called Eslam. #FreeWestPapua from Indonesian occupation.
History education at school isn't supposed to be detail. It's back to us to search and learn more to educate ourselves, even after graduated from school.
It just hurts credibility so much when you read out 'Aceh' as 'Akheh'... Over and over again; very hard to ignore...
Thank you Al-Jazeera for telling a little of Indonesia's history. That's why we understand and feel the pain experienced by countries oppressed by colonialization.
My grandfather from my mother side and his brothers & cousins fought as Revolutionary Fighter against the Dutch. While from my father side fought against Imperial Japan. I'm extremely proud of them all. ❤🇮🇩
Londo Ireng was the most dangerous for the fredom fighter...
Betrayer, who licked the boot of the colonials, and became the enemy in the blanket..
Like the Javanazi that calls himself "freedom fighter" 🤢
Londo ireng itu pengucapan dari bahasa jawa ke para penghianat
Even the Netherlands, a small unassuming country of Europe was committing war crimes against people who never did anything to them or most likely knew they existed.
The 'C' in 'Aceh' should be pronounced like 'ch' in 'chalk' rather than a 'c' in a 'care' :)
Yeah, pretty much every letter in the alphabet for Indonesian only makes one sound
It's alright, they pronounced it the English way.
@@leonardowynnwidodo9704 except the letter "e" which can be
pronounced as "eh" like in the word "every" or "uh" in "remember"
@@LoserSys.32 thanks for pointing it out
79 years in freedom still the people most live in poverty...and still all natural, resources, energies from soil only give benefit for the greeds and some elite peoples...freedom mean nothing.. people to afraid to make 🇮🇩✊REVOLUTION✊🇮🇩
my grandfather was fighting against dutch in 1947-1948. The dutch burn down his house...my grand mother was trimester pregnant with my father in her belly....they run away from their house to their maid house down in the rural village. My father was born during this time right beside the river they walk when running away. my grandfather was helping my grand mother in labour next to the river in Magelang Central Java. my father is still alive and kicking til now Alhamdulillah. My grand father said people would gather food and make public kitchen to support the freedom fighters.....
Masha Allah I love your family courage, thank you for sharing your family history !
As Indonesian only a fool who takes western words seriously. They named us as a third wolrd country in the same sentence they told us that they will not pay back the things that they took. And surprisingly some of people in Indonesia acting somehow we need follow the west.
Europe will be the poorest continent if they pay for whatever they took.
The history between Indonesia and the Netherlands is complex and deeply intertwined. While colonialism was undeniably wrong and had profound impacts, it's important to acknowledge that the world was very different in those times. Indonesia, as we know it today, was not yet a unified country, and there were conflicts among local kingdoms even before colonization. Today, Indonesia faces its own challenges, such as modern slavery, which deserves our attention and action. Addressing these issues is crucial for moving forward and building a better future.
when in history have people payed for what they took lol. you're strong you conquer, you're weak you get conquered. do the descsendents of the majapahit or sriwijaya empires also need to pay back all the things their ancestors took or conquered?
@@varo9491 this is one of the most stupid comment i ever heard. Conquered and been colonialize is different.
When the Arab came to Spain, do they conquered them, yes. But do colonialize it, no. In fact they made one of the golden era at spain.
See a different?
If you even dont get it, then why bother to act like a smart guy?
Sure, if Indonesia also gives back everything they stole from Papua. Oh not to mention becoming different countries again since a united Indonesia is a Dutch colonial project.
Its easy to moan if others have to give something back, but when you yourself have to give something back you refuse.
@@drunkenpumpkins7401 what the heck u talking indonesia is dutch colonial project? are u high? The moment we independent dutch and england even attacked indonesia for 2-3 years because they cannot let go colonialism.
And about Papua, who the heck taking gold from papua? Indonesia? It's USA, hahaha what lies did your teacher teachs you?
The more u speak, the more you proving my point, Western is bunch of maniac civilization. So barbaric.
Pretending somewhat has a higher moral ground. Nazi is bad because they colonial white people. Same as Leopold or England at India. You have nothing to bark about ur history except blood and genocide
Love the spotlight on such atrocities, it's important that the world not forget about European Colonial legacy.
I would recommend, however, making sure you know pronunciation before recording... Aceh is pronounced "ah-CHAY" - the "c" in Indonesian is almost always pronounced "ch"...
Typical European playbook during colonization,call natives extremists and terrorists.
Just like anyone else in the world. China does the same, Russia does the same, Nigeria does the same, Japan does the same, Brazil does the same, ect, ect ect.
Only a fool believes this is only a western problem.
Western riches are built upon many graves of indonesian
Not really. They were already rich before that, while Indonesia didn't exist and was made out of different tribes fighting with eachother in wooden huts
@@Tr786hala another ignorant f*cker justifying genocides and colonialism. Youre probably white
@@Tr786hala VOC is the most rich company until today, and that's company only hold Indonesia
@@ulfimaulanaghifari that's not true. They also held parts of India, Sri Lanka and Malaysia. But it's a classic example of "the rich getting richer." When the Dutch arrived in Indonesia, there wasn't a country, just primitive tribes/kingdoms fighting eachother. The Dutch arrived with more knowledge, skills and advanced weaponry. They had that because they were already way richer and more advanced in the first place. I'm not saying at that time The Netherlands didn't profit from it enourmous, but you got to place it in the right perspective. The tribes even invited the Netherlands on their islands, to fight wars for them, in exchange for their resources, which seemed not valuable by Indonesian tribes at the time.
@@Tr786hala the portugese and english were already there, and the tribes being savages and only fighting is a lie, just because they lived differently doesnt mean they were only fighting each other, things and fights happen but you make it seem like they were some savages, they had well established powerful communities and werent 'living in huts' the way you think, its even so that the dutch used a "divide and conquer" strategy to make them fight each other and get control in the regions, because the Mataram Sultanate was very powerful, even later the dutch would get local rulers addicted to opium and would stop supplying them if they didnt do what they say, for example raising taxes they had to pay to the dutch. tribes would never invite the dutch to their islands if it was not for support against the portugese or political reasons against other kingdoms, which the dutch would gladly help them, to also start to control those islands territories, however youre trying to justify it, the dutch were WRONG they didnt have the right to come to countries miles away and steal land, enslave and kill the people, commit genocide, force their religions and everything else they did..
what Palestine facing is like how Indonesia facing in the past
😂😂😂
It was very brave of the Indonesian people to fight against dutch fascism and imperialism.
Orang Eropa terutama belanda harus ingat dan malu dari mana sumber kekayaan mereka, kami bangsa Indonesia tidak akan lupa atas kekejian dan kejahatan mereka. Seperti halnya roda yang berputar semoga atas izin Allah giliran kami yang akan maju dan sejahtera menggantikan mereka.
Dan skrg kita dijajah sm pejabat "lokal" haha
@@ardi08I love corruption❤
people are forgetting that instead of getting reparations Indonesia literally had to pay billions to Netherlands for its independence to be internationally recognised.
Because the Netherlands had the upper hand in control and fighting.
Even With Thousands of Apologies, the Netherlands Can Never Be Forgiven.
By citing the dark history of the past, the Dutch and other European people will not dare to commit racism against Indonesians.
Besides the Dutch, who are the colonists who killed Indonesians on a large scale?
The Japanese occupation of Indonesia (1942-1945), there were many reports about the suffering and death experienced by the Indonesian people. Estimates of the number of Indonesian deaths during the Japanese occupation vary, but some sources say that between 4 and 10 million Indonesians died as a result of military campaigns, forced labor, and food shortages caused by Japanese occupation. Japanese occupation also led to very poor conditions including forced labor, political oppression, and a serious lack of food resources. These figures are approximate, as official records and detailed statistics from the period are not always available.
theres also a saying alot in history use, that the Japanese colonial period was more brutal than 300 years of Dutch colonialism. The severity they inflicted despite their assistance to unite us is still ignored to this day..
I am Dutch, 58 years old. I remember this was sort of used as an excuse when we were taught about it in school. In general the Dutch role was tiptoed around, we never got a good understanding of Dutch colonialism in school. But the Japanese role was stressed as bad. Like, we weren't that bad, they should have been happy with us occupying them, look what they got in return for their ungrateful rebelion!
Precies! En dat eromheen draaien en smoesjes bedenken doen Nederlanders nu ook om de misdaden in Israël goed te praten.
Maw die minderwaardige moslims vragen erom..
@@Northmenn that 4-10 millions is combined from the period after comparing population data. So its combination of ww2 and the subsequent national revolution when fighting the Dutch.
Sadly indonesian own military did the exact same thing to their fellow countrymen in Aceh and now in Papua
Sadly
You lack education to learn what is going on
Indonesia and Vietnam are 2 SEA warriors i respect a lot. Both fighting colonizers with bamboo and sharpened wood.
Both shares the same Independence year: 1945
both fight with gerilya strat
Together Stronger 🔥
Interesting video. A few notes:
- the Dutch ruled over many parts via Indonesian rulers (regents) who were as corrupt, if not more corrupt than the Dutch themselves,
- don't forget many Indonesians served in the Dutch colonial army (KNIL),
- do notice that the Indonesian independence movements prior to 1941 posed no real threat to Dutch colonial rule. It weren't the Indonesians who overthrew it, but the Japanese.
- it is likely that under 3,5 years Japanese rule more Indonesians died (forced labour, massacres) than under 3,5 century Dutch rule. That doesn't make the Dutch good, but it should be noted that Japanese rule was far more brutal.
- On 9:39 there is a photo of the Bersiap (1945) where Indonesian youngsters went on a killing spree killing and burning down the homes of many Europeans and Chinese,
- nowadays the Dutch do not widely glorify the atrocities of the past: it is often debated, also the statue of JP Coen.
- as of today the Netherlands has made many apologies, by either king and/or government for its colonial past.
Many Indonesian that served as KNIL is not yet or not part of "Indonesian". They all mostly molluccas people whom prefer to be part of the Dutch. Thus, the diaspora mollucams still a lot at Netherlands up till today. 😅
They Only Apologize To Indonesia,But Not Other Colonial
This is the content of the opening of the 1945 Constitution of the Republic of Indonesia "That independence is the right of all nations and therefore, colonialism in the world must be abolished, because it is not in accordance with humanity and justice." That's why we support Palestine because mufti from Palestine recognize our country one year before our independence
and these days some Indonesians said we were well paid instead of forced to work for the invaders, what a joke
😭😭😭😭😂🤣
100 years still crying🍼👶 😭
Because they don't know history.
So you ignored how corrupted local politicians that time is? Even nowadays corruptions did by so many of the locals.
So weird seeing this. I'm Dutch. Like 100% Dutch, both parents, all 4 grandparents. I love Indonesians. I think they're an incredible people and I respect them and their culture a lot. Love meeting Indonesians online in games and such, always cool to talk to, love the country. I can't apologize for something I did not do, but I do look at my kinsmen and wonder how they could bring themselves to do this. I think it is all just via dehumanization, like any conflict or invasion. I am glad it is over and I am sad it happened. Love you Indonesia.
Thank you bro. 🇮🇩
Stop licking their asses.
The Netherlands did murder and massacre in Indonesia and the British did similar in Malaya although British Empire claim they didn’t
As much as I dislike the Brits empire. They were the lesser evil from the Dutch. The only massacre they did was Batang Kali. The Japanese was much worse
@@sovietroll7880 in Malaya the Uk military were just “observers” of atrocities. While rightists murdered trade unionists and strikers. My cousin served in British Army in Malaya and returned home unwell from what he’d seen. Today it’s called PTSD
The British also did atrocities in the archipelago. They robbed the Yogyakarta Sultanate palace. Please googling the Geger Sepehi.
@@aryatamanurhasyim9834 Thanks my cousin Roger was in the British army in Malaya in the 1950s.
Don't forget about Myanmar civil war becuz of British Empire.
But Spain never apologized for what they have done during Spanish colonization in Latin America and the Philippines.
because latin america and Philipines became christian country. you can't sue your overlord.
and they didnt win against Spain.
@@begobolehsjwjangan2359 There are some Indonesian regions where Islam is not the majority religion at all. Like North Sulawesi and the Highlands of Sumatra they follow the religion of their colonizers. Actually Spain was defeated by the Native Filipinos and Spain at that time also faced war with Americans but Spain preferred to surrender to their fellow Caucasians the Americans.
@@carlag.9914 "Like North Sulawesi and the Highlands of Sumatra they follow the religion of their colonizers."
- they still worship the Dutch until today and always claim that the dutch is better than today native government.
you cant help that.
when you are doctrined since very young age that your god is a white caucasian male from Jerusalem with blonde hair and blue eyes, you will worship any white people you see.
this is what you call mental slavery.
the same goes with 'why christians will always support israel by default', it's because their god is an israeli man.
in every israelis' vein run the same blood as their god.
thus every single drop of israeli's blood is sacred.
in the other hand Islam doctrine is 'All men are equal before God'
this is why hindu, christianity, and yudaism hate islam.
@@carlag.9914 ironically, it is these people who fought the Dutch the most. There were dozens of army generals from the Batak people of Sumatra and several political leaders from North Sulawesi such as Dr. Sam Ratulangi, very few Indonesian nationalist could be more magnanimous than him. Overall, the role of the Catholics and, probably a lil bit to a lesser degree, the non Catholic christian, cant be understated in the fight for independence.
@@begobolehsjwjangan2359 philipines still under occupation .. just change owner to america lol
or more like philiphine became part of US empire .
Fun fact : Those apologies from Dutch King and PM came at time when Indonesian economy (GDP) surpass the Dutch. The wind is changing indeed.
Add that Indonesia still whole, not crumble apart like Yugoslavia, to much dismay of many Dutch.
Wait. You think Dutch people still care about Indonesia?
Most can't even find it on a map.
@@Jack-Handshow? It’s quite big on the map🤣
@@asrtemps they don't care.
@@Jack-Hands well I wouldn’t know. I can’t mind-read every single dutch person in existence.
@@Jack-Hands Logical. I would feel the same if I'm Dutch, who 'unintentionally' unified a humongous country for the sole reason of 'hating' Dutch.
As an indonesian i must be grateful and thankful to my ancestor who fighting for Indonesian independence. Without their effort and sacrifice, me and hundred million of Indonesian, can't live in freedom and has equal right in humanity, as other nation in the world. 🇮🇩
Every Indonesia, no matter what religion is. If he understands the history well, will always side with Palestinians
The pronunciation of Aceh is "Acheh" not "akeh"
And don't forget Indonesia literally paid BILLIONS to the Dutch after 1949 for their own war reparations. Independence is paid with blood any money
Remind me of 1958 US💣 in Sulawesi village...got compensation?
Think it was Ambon actually. And no ofcourse no compensation..lol..its usa🤢
"CIA pilots began bombing Indonesia's outer islands on April 19, 1958, striking military and civilian targets, killing hundreds of civilians and fomenting much anger among the Indonesian populace."
?oh ya right I forgot.. U.S now busy w£ping out 🇵🇸
Why bother asking compensation when it is still "work in progress"...
just studied abt this in class today, and the sheer amount of suffering the people at the time was immeasurable
Still no apologize from Netherlands about what they did at South and West Celebes during Westerling Massacre, as known as "Korban 40.000 jiwa"
But they have the audacity to moan about bersiap 😂
Hypocrisy is a core trait of Europeans.
Sadly, some Indonesians today are trying to potray the Dutch as "Saviour" because one little fact that one of the Dutch general pay some sums for the loss of life during the construction of Panarukan road.
Also bet it doesn’t match the wealth that they extracted from the land.
i mean it makes sense to be thankful to the dutch for some things bc after all without the dutch indonesia wouldnt' exist. Indonesia is made of many different ethnic and religious groups. the only reason they came together to create a nation was bc they had a common unifying enemy- the dutch. if the dutch never invaded indonesia today would probably be malaysia or different countries like java or bali
@@varo9491 Well, that analogy I can understand, but it's not the case, they literally trying to potray the Dutch as a "Innocent" Who literally never opress or butcher Indonesian.
as a dutch person i am very ashamed of what my country did. i truly wish we never did any harm in the past but we did, it should not be forgotten.
Give back my glod🫵
Give me money
give me money please 🤔
Well you are todays generation so its not your fault anyway, but your government and especially your kingdom knew about this
It's not your fault. It was something done by someone from your country centuries ago. The King of the Netherlands already apologized as well, and people from the NL is usually well-received in Indonesia. If anything, just continue to make a good connection between two countries and make good impacts for the society ❤
The British fought against the Indians, the Indonesians, but also against the Jews in 1948. The British armies teamed up with the Arabs against the Jews!
Salamu 3alaikum Indonesia ❤ from tunisia
Indonesia Merdeka! Falastine Hourra!
Kakek ku dibunuh sadis tentara VOC saat mengantar daun pisang ke Batavia ( jakarta now)😭😭 itu sebabnya aku menaruh benci kepada penjajah
The VOC (Dutch East Indies) was the largest company in the world during that time
And the first company in the world
But It Almost Gone Bankrupt If British Company Did Not Save Them 1826 And 1905,
Also I would like to remind you that what Japan did in 4 years was way worse then what the Dutch did in multiple centuries.
Taiwan's Ming dynasty general Koxinga kicked out the Dutch from Taiwan around the 17th century.
12 minutes of fame for Raben and his team of psychiatric patients
Hey AJ+, just a feedback, I think your voice recording is a bit too sharp. I recommend doing high cut in the parametric equalizer in editing
Thanks for sharing these important stories!
My great grandmother was the only survivor of the massacre in her village, her village is located in West Java, Subang City, Pamanukan Village.
The people were massacred from old to young
i have *many* indonesian friends -- they told me the dutch were good, it was the japanese they didnt like
That's because they don't know history.
@harryblack7323 they know exactly and they know how the current regime is. You on the other hand just a blind nati*nalist.
During the Indonesian war for independence, our weapons were mostly sharpened bamboo, while our opponents already had astra weapons (nuclear)... As a result, many cities were deliberately burned (scorched earth, lebur geni)... Rather than being used by the Dutch colonialists, the cities ended up being burned (like Bandung city, etc)... And the victims are millions... Luckily KNIL and nationalist united together...
Not really.....TNI was fairly well armed in terms of infantry weapons....
Sharp bamboo is just poetic romantization of our struggle. Do you literally believe it??? 😅
Kisah sejarah bambu runcing memang ada, tapi itu opsi terakhir dan hanya cerita hiperbola untuk membangkitkan patriotisme.
Akhir kerajaan majapahit dan awal era kesultanan di Indonesia sudah menggunakan arquebus dan musket, ada juga meriam. Di aceh, mataram, demak, ternate, tidore, dsb. Malah spanyol sendiri mengakui senjata pasukan kesultanan Ternate dan Tidore kala itu setara dengan Jerman. Ketika spanyol dan portugis berjaya mengkolonisasi amerika dan timur tengah, disini mereka kewalahan dan ditendang keluar oleh pasukan dan armada kesultanan.
Kalau pingin bukti sejarah yang kuat, searching saja bukti-bukti perjuangan rakyat Indonesia di Museum luar negeri, biar mindset berubah kalau kita ini bukan bangsa primitif. Abad 16 orang jawa saja udah bisa bikin senjata api sendiri.
it is still happening to the Palestinian, if you dont know, now you know
it's also still happening in papua
@@varo9491 what happen in papua?? 😂
Unfortunately, we as Dutch citizens don't even get to know these atrocities. They make it seems the Dutch we mere making trade and helping the people. I rather see both countries work together to work on stronger position and for the Dutch to help to get the Indonesian running at a same level as the western world.
stop lying, the atrocities of the Dutch are taught in schools.
Have you ever heard the term of Cultuurstelsel ?
Very sad when you consider the Dutch casualties and brutality metered out to them by the Nazis, one would think they would have maintained some empathy towards the Indonesians.
Speaking of genocide.
FREE FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Reminds anyone of what's been happening in p@lestine? It's always the same
The bmbs are a lot better though.
@@MartinMaat Yeah, basically Palestine fought against Nazi 2.0 right now.
@@aerith119 They actually fought alongside the Germans, the Mufti of Jerusalem, etc.
@@AsscherMazzelaar I mean Israel is Nazi 2.0
@@AsscherMazzelaar false informatiion, try again
Talk about Bersiap now
oh boy you guys love victimizing yourselves with the 'bersiap' excuse, don't you?
@@Sil2iconDreams definitely not as much as Ind*n CRYING about evil Dutch Colonisers 😂😭 🥱🪞
@@Sil2iconDreamshave you watched the video😂. Who's playing victim.
@@queen84sasha not that indonesians are innocent of that either-but people like you love to use the bersiap period as if that excuses all the past atrocities of the NL
@@Sil2iconDreamsStop using Dutch as an excuse to colonise, oppress and commit g€n∆cide in West Papua or other regions. The victims of the Bersiap were all non combatant civilians, majority were women, children, elderly and ethnic minorities like Chinese and Eurasians. Keep up your LIES. Because we all know LIES is all you have to justify your actions.
AJ... Thank u for sharing this video❤❤❤
There will be similar documentaries on the Na2ionist genoc1de soon.. thanks AJ
this one of few reason indonesia never really see Hitler as a evil being, because what dutch do to indonesia is same
You mean what Sukarno and Suharto did is the same. And they both literally admired Hitler
Negara IQ 78 talks
@@queen84sasha you need to see what dutch and other did in indonesia first to understand why that happen
@@Dududididada21 always blame others for your own barbarian acts.
@@Dududididada21 typical 3rd world mentality.
Shameful hypocrisy by Al Jazeera. how to take them seriously again. On 17 Augustus we remind the whole World about the occupation of West Papua by 🇮🇩.. no double standards.. there was NO independence in Indonesia..
Free Papua
Free from what? They are free as birds. You just want them to separate from Indonesia so you can colonize them again
@@TheAkiraFerrariagree, like what australia did to timor leste
West Papua is very free... they are part of free country Indonesia..
You dont believe it ? You can go to west papua and see for your self.. we Indonesian have nothing to hide.
@@joMan1060 murderers
@@vk-zd7qq bro as a wast papuan were free as shit here and also if it were to gain independence...we would honestly crumble in economy since the laws are non existent here
Merdeka
Great reporting! We need more people to be aware of the atrocities of colonization and how they tried to defend it, similar to what is happening in Palestine.
And now indonesian are fighting a bigger fight.... Against themselves
It's so funny how Dutch describing themselves as victim in ww2 when they pretty much do the same as german conquering other countries.
Many Dutch felt angry and lost many friends and family. I don't talk anything right, far from it, but a lot of soldiers were just regular people who wanted some kind of revange. Since we never got it from Germany, so they acted it up on the native population.
Free West Papua
Free from what?
@@monteselvanusdr EndJavaneseColonialism
free for what?
from kkb
They support Palestinians yet they turn a blind eye to papuans. Oh wait its because they have kulit hitam (dark skin) and their religious beliefs are different so they dont have much empathy towards them.
Ugggh the colonizers legacy 😴
inimah orang orang Australia guys,air liur mu menetes melihat emas di Papua haha...
Thank you for uploading this on our Independence Day.
It is a beautiful gift.
Correction. The Aceh Sultanate, the "ceh" part is like the "ch" sound in chicken.
thanks for sharing this story of the birth of our nation. Though there are so many contexts that should be added, this video focusing on the Dutch's crime and a kinda good place to start. I think the dutch is getting better in acknowleding their past. hundreds of historical artifacts and archeological finding is being returned to Indonesia, so that's a good sign, but we'll see if we can improve from here. oh, btw its ACEH (the c pronounced as 'ch' in chair, not hard 'k')
Indonesia a country as large as whole Europe with 300 million population blames Netherland a country so small one don't even know it exists and with population less than few million, for all its woes.
The Netherlands now has 18 million inhabitants.
@@harryblack7323back then they was barely 5 million.
Netherland have fully armed Nation with allied on its back and Indonesia just farmer people back then
@@kuchingkuchingalmost everyone knows the Netherlands exist
Its one of the most famous countries in the world especially for its size
But not Indonesia even tho its massive
Ask anyone in America and canada and Mexico
Or Eastern Europe if they know about Indonesia existence and they will i don't know what county that is
@@kuchingkuching9 million people
Ignorant Indonesian
Be very careful Indonesia, Australia is trying to get the US to back it for US Pacific Deputy. Australia wants to be a Pacific power and flex its muscles. Keep in mind the AUKUS deal.
the AUKUS is a nuisance and a potential threat for ASEAN nations in general, but the Ozzies is always seen to be the lapdog of the US. As long as we treat them like what they are, and focus more on balancing the overlords as we have been doing for decades, we should be okay.
@GongGong-zk8qs australia was never on the trade route. In historical context, irrelevant and insignificant until WW2.
@GongGong-zk8qs a very small population of Macassarnese. It has no impact on the grander scope of things. If this historical fact gives pride to aboriginal australian, more power to them!
@GongGong-zk8qs nah... Indonesian will for sure get along with the native but not the "white criminals" even if they established trade the whites will be the one in power.
indonesia care about science not religion, we fought independence from apartheid nation, even if we are Christian we would still look at the dutch the same way.
@@whanua98 nahh, most of christian are pro dutch, 200.000 christian moved to netherlands after indonesia decleared it's independence. They are former dutch employed
@@BodohYono repatriated not moved which gave birth to stereotype there are still European in Indonesia after WW2, and it's 2 million, not 200.000 that are repatriated to the netherland, Christians are the most suffer from colonialism than Muslim society because they don't get any welfare, most black/brown ppl that are graduated from leiden or Europe school in java are 100% Muslim, hajj was facilitated, etc. and it's expensive, unfortunately, it never about Christianity, netherland were liberal they only care about power.
@@BodohYono they move to netherland due to propaganda about racism, many Christian here die from japan but they only care about bersiap
Indonesia lost the war but won their independence using diplomatic way. Indonesia fought the dutchs to forced them to enter the negotiation table. The US threat to kick the Netherlands out of the Marshall plan helped alot for Indonesian independence
Highly recommend anyone interested to read Bumi Manusia/This Earth of Mankind by Pramoedya Ananta Toer which portrays the difficulties of colonialism on Indonesia
Fake propaganda movie. Was written when he was imprisoned at pulau Buru during New Order in 1965. It's a disguised critique.
@@TLCTLC-cg6cm honestly i find the story itself more interesting than what the author was critiquing i'd still recommend it (but not the movie)
I have pictures of my great grandad and grandmother from back in the day. My grandad was stationed there and eventually met my grandmother.
I also still have the papers that eventually declared my grandmother a Dutch citizen. I find these papers especially super interesting. I also think we should never ever forget about our history. Imo we should actively teach it in our schools. Cuz it should never be allowed to happen again
For a country as tiny as Netherland to set up a global imperium is quite impressive. For Indonesia not so much. You know the expression; all is fair in love and war.
Bring Netherlands to International court