That's because years after the massacre, Jonestown was looted by local Guyanese and after that Jonestown was destroyed by a forest fire. The burned ruins were then reclaimed by the jungle. That's why virtually nothing is left of Jonestown.
I don't think most people realize the person who uploaded these videos was the pilot for senator Leo Ryan, Gerry Gouviea. Very fortunate that Gouviea survived the shootout and was able to rescue the few survivors of the massacre. Extremely heroic.
this is fascinating. The gentleman who's being interviewed showed a real consideration for the gravity of the events that occurred there. It's a very delicate dance to revisit such a tragedy, and avoid being seen as exploitative. You did this respectfully and have my respect.
I really think that there is voices at night has to be)) Would you have the courage to go there at night if you got ticket bought for ya or what very sad as well)) May they all rest in peace in heaven
@@patrickjm3487 I would. If there’s voices there at night it’s because people are around. Ghosts don’t exist. I’ve been to many supposedly haunted houses and places. I have had zero cases of a ghost. I’ve been to civil war battlefields at night where more people died in a much more violent way. Nothing was seen or heard. I am fascinated by paranormal things and have tried hard to find evidence and have nothing to show.
That is damn creepy, especially when they find the remains of the piano. I've sometimes wondered what was left of the place, apparently very little, which I guess is a good thing.
i was only 15 years young then..i remembered when jim jones folks would buy fruits from us on the East Bank roadside in Coverden. this is the best documentary on Jonestown massacare.
@@JDVmusicSound it's been common knowledge that Jonestown was overpopulated and unable to provide for 900+ people. The village was only designed for half that amount.
My aunt "gave" Jim Jones, her family home, and 6 other properties in Indianapolis then went to California, as s;he worked more at age 83 he told her she had to pay rent on a trailer she lived in, no freeloaders allowed, then while there, then on to Jonestown, where she died along with her adopted daughter and that daughters 4 children, my uncles 2 grandsons wives and children, a total of 21 family members. Marceline (Baldwin) Jim's wife is buried in Richmond, IN she is related to us. Sad that all these people were sucked into Jim's lies, and that all had to die, especially the children. Our family has never got over this tragedy, we warned them, but they thought they were helping end racism, now we have a total racism event happening again in our nation. This makes it even harder to tolerate. Religion difference has caused too many deaths. Will we ever learn? I think many meant well, but were dissollusioned when they got there, and then that day afraid to want to leave, Congressman Ryan should have gone with our Military backup, not alone. Too many deaths for NOTHING. At least the bodies are back in America.
As it goes with that tractor I am certain that it is not the one used at the shooting at the airfield that day . The rear mud guards or fenders as you could call them are different and looking at the dash panel I would say that that is an International tractor where as the one used on the airstrip was a Massey Ferguson . Not sure which model it was as no footage is good enough but for a Massey it did have odd looking mudguards fitted
I agree they should have preserved the buildings where the tragedy occurred as many people are curious and the site would have attracted tourist and generated some income! Some might think its disgusting idea but take the Coliseum in Rome as an example, Today, the Coliseum is one of its most famous landmarks and tourist attractions. Although it survives only as a ruin, it still rates as one of the finest examples of Roman architecture and engineering.
Should have treated it similarly to Auschwitz, left intact and not made to be a for-profit tourist trap but rather a museum and educational example of the dangers of the subject matter. Had Jonestown existed in a less remote area or in a more developed country, it's possible the site could've been restored and maintained. Climate and nature is also a huge reason the site quickly deteriorated faster than vandalism alone could've done.
Capt. Gerry, thanks so much for uploading these videos. You played a fascinating role in the aftermath of this tragedy, and did so well and with honour. Two questions : 1. Do you still fly? 2. How did this affect your life? All the very best! RR
Interesting to hear the Guyana perspective and their news reports, rather than the American ones. Less sensational, and at times seemingly “sympathetic”. Very interesting
Google is everyone's friend... "The buildings were mostly destroyed by a fire in the mid-1980s, after which the ruins were left to decay and be reclaimed by the jungle"
If you read up on that belief, that's the last thing the Guyanese govt wants for the country to be remembered worldwide because of what happened there.
@Brian James probably illegal, places where such huge tragedies take place are usually off limits, be the same as going to auschwitz and doing a ghost hunt, never going to happen and shouldn't happen
last thing the country wanted...then, now, and always. Guyana by no means wants to be remembered because of Jonestown, as much the income point could be true.
New York profit huge from 9/11 in tourism to the ground zero. Guyaneans have a gold mine there. Clear the ground, make a Museum. The world have a fascination with Jonestown .
@Glenn Braddhaw Actually it is not . The one they drove to the airfield and shot people was a Massey Ferguson 188 . That is clearly and International and they did have one . Can't tell you what model it was though
@Glenn Braddhaw Pitty it was no possible to post pictures up . I have a pitcuture of the tractor actually at the airfield which I found on the internet years ago . also another on of that before it was stripped
Take for e.g Every year Survivors, family of victims, Jim Jones Jr. and others gather at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland CA to remember the Jonestown massacre and dedicate a memorial wall to the victims. Isnt that great, they should do that in Guyana also!
@@andrewhoyle1521 Jim Jones was a confidential informant in Chile in the 60's, which is a far cry from a CIA conspiracy. I was 10 and had relatives at Dover AFB, when this happened. It is burned into my psyche. It doesn't mean that examining the reasons why so many joined a movement, that created so much, isn't possible outside a cult. It's not. They accomplished that, not that sociopathic, drug addicted, maniac.
The CIA didn't clean this up, myself and a lot of PPL from the USAF cleaned this up. Did you know that body bags were not designed to contain body fluids? Do you know that a body rotting in that tropical heats swells up and had to be punctured in order to get it to fit in a body bag? Do you know that 42 years later a person can still smell that horrible smell? Don't tell me the CIA cleaned this up!
i was just thinking what it looked like now and if it was haunted.funny first comment i got my answer! what a sad sad time. strange how i was watching shows recently on jonestown and had no idea that it was to the day yesterday 30+years ago.
Why is he trying to put a positive spin on this place??? This was a horrible place, a horrible man and a horrible incident. There is nothing positive about it!!!!! Period!!!!
Only if the company they work for sets a rule for that to be. Otherwise no, there is no law that requires a pilot to actually wear pilot clothes and gear.
No, the government made little effort to clean-up the site beyond removing the bodies and taking an inventory of the buildings and items discovered at the site (which you can still read if interested). This was mostly because of cost. Despite People Temple's lease agreement with the government, the Guyanese perspective was that the whole affair included US citizens and was thus more its responsibility (also leveraging the political embarrassment, a different topic altogether). The US assumed most of the cost of bringing the bodies back for examination and burial. It then took the People's Temple to court to recoup the cost but the church was basically bankrupt by then, meaning US taxpayers covered the remaining costs. With a little research you can find pictures taken in 1979 (one year later) by members of the Concerned Relatives. The site was stripped of materials over time by local raiders and a massive fire destroyed remaining structures sometime in the mid 80s.
The People's Temple was leasing the land from the Guyanese government and although I do not know the exact terms, I would imagine that the termination of that lease after the mass murders put all site's assets into the hands of the government. I have read that the locals did indeed take/steal materials from the site however (those that were not superstitious). The Guyanese government was offering a lease on the land as part of a program with the aim to discover if farming in the region was viable. Previous to Jonestown, the same site was leased to another group of Americans which according to sources I have read, ultimately preferred to get high and play jazz music (no joke). Jim Jones came forward with a sizable amount of money and a serious workforce so the Guyanese assumed this proposition would be much more promising. Unfortunately not. After Jonestown I believe the area went unused for sometime. It suffered a fire in 1985 and then was used to relocate Hmoung refugees in the late-eighties.
I wonder what ever happened to Stephanie Jones.Jim Jones black grand daughter that got her throat slashed at Georgetown and survived. Stephen jones took a picture with his niece after defending her attempted asailant in the Guyanese court and no other stories about her were ever published.
A. Why would being at a basketball tournament preclude having a court on the compound? People who like basketball that much always have a court nearby. It costs almost nothing. B. There’s a shitload of footage of them playing hoops at the compound, in an effort to show how “normal” things were
I'm currently reading "Seductive Poision: A Jonestown Survivor's Story of Life and Death in the People's Temple". No tennis court mentioned. No leisure time either.
Beth Barton there was a basketball court. The team, one of whom was Jones' adopted son, just happened to be in Georgetown for a tournament when this all happened. Jones had called his son to take his life but he didn't and lives to tell it today.
Beth Barton no leisure time ? There’s a ton of propaganda video of them playing basketball and chess, etc, in an effort to attract followers to join them. Jones was desperate to show how “normal” it was. I don’t understand how someone interested enough in Jonestown to read a book and comment on a TH-cam video doesn’t know this
Neon Frost a clay court would be reclaimed by the jungle in a matter of three or four years. Hell, even in the Midwest it would be grown over and unrecognizable in a decade.
No, they didn't have any of that stuff, as that pilot has no earthly idea what he talking about!!!!!!!! He is clueless of how those people were treated and what went on there.
That's because years after the massacre, Jonestown was looted by local Guyanese and after that Jonestown was destroyed by a forest fire. The burned ruins were then reclaimed by the jungle. That's why virtually nothing is left of Jonestown.
I don't think most people realize the person who uploaded these videos was the pilot for senator Leo Ryan, Gerry Gouviea. Very fortunate that Gouviea survived the shootout and was able to rescue the few survivors of the massacre. Extremely heroic.
Yeah. I understood that on the First vídeo
this is fascinating. The gentleman who's being interviewed showed a real consideration for the gravity of the events that occurred there. It's a very delicate dance to revisit such a tragedy, and avoid being seen as exploitative. You did this respectfully and have my respect.
Sometimes where true Evil dwells it's just better to let Nature do what it does best, reclaim the earth.
I really agree with you on that
Then we wouldn't have things like the Auschwitz concentration camp left standing and turned into a memorial.
I was born the same week after the tragedy. I am sure that place is haunted in the nights with so many ppl had died.
I really think that there is voices at night has to be))
Would you have the courage to go there at night if you got ticket bought for ya
or what very sad as well))
May they all rest in peace in heaven
@@patrickjm3487 I would. If there’s voices there at night it’s because people are around. Ghosts don’t exist. I’ve been to many supposedly haunted houses and places. I have had zero cases of a ghost. I’ve been to civil war battlefields at night where more people died in a much more violent way. Nothing was seen or heard. I am fascinated by paranormal things and have tried hard to find evidence and have nothing to show.
@@Youre_Right If you believe in ghosts, you´ll see ghosts.
Excellent and eloquent tour guide and wonderful host and interviewer. Thanks for keeping the people of Jonestown memory alive ❤ RIP to the 900 souls
That is damn creepy, especially when they find the remains of the piano. I've sometimes wondered what was left of the place, apparently very little, which I guess is a good thing.
i was only 15 years young then..i remembered when jim jones folks would buy fruits from us on the East Bank roadside in Coverden. this is the best documentary on Jonestown massacare.
Wow!! U met some of those members?!
So they werent self sufficient lol
Where they nice people?
@@JDVmusicSound it's been common knowledge that Jonestown was overpopulated and unable to provide for 900+ people. The village was only designed for half that amount.
Thanks for sharing these videos--what detail he remembered after 25 years!
My aunt "gave" Jim Jones, her family home, and 6 other properties in Indianapolis then went to California, as s;he worked more at age 83 he told her she had to pay rent on a trailer she lived in, no freeloaders allowed, then while there, then on to Jonestown, where she died along with her adopted daughter and that daughters 4 children, my uncles 2 grandsons wives and children, a total of 21 family members. Marceline (Baldwin) Jim's wife is buried in Richmond, IN she is related to us. Sad that all these people were sucked into Jim's lies, and that all had to die, especially the children. Our family has never got over this tragedy, we warned them, but they thought they were helping end racism, now we have a total racism event happening again in our nation. This makes it even harder to tolerate. Religion difference has caused too many deaths. Will we ever learn? I think many meant well, but were dissollusioned when they got there, and then that day afraid to want to leave, Congressman Ryan should have gone with our Military backup, not alone. Too many deaths for NOTHING. At least the bodies are back in America.
Sorry to read your story Don. I pray that you and your family have found some kind of peace. God bless you!!!
Don, I am sorry that your family experienced this tragedy.
I always wondered if Stephan Jones had a relationship with his mother's people or his father's people after this tragedy occurred.
Don cordell - Thanks for your insight. Peace to your family always.
CIA Operation
This is very interesting information thank you for taking the time to upload it.
14 years ago...
@@gracefully_livy16 years Ago now
As it goes with that tractor I am certain that it is not the one used at the shooting at the airfield that day . The rear mud guards or fenders as you could call them are different and looking at the dash panel I would say that that is an International tractor where as the one used on the airstrip was a Massey Ferguson . Not sure which model it was as no footage is good enough but for a Massey it did have odd looking mudguards fitted
Locals looted the place within hours of the suicide. It shows real human nature.
Let no needed resource go unclaimed
I'm more surprised anybody bothered walking or driving 6 miles just for resources. I highly doubt looters were airlifted into Jonestown.
I agree they should have preserved the buildings where the tragedy occurred as many people are curious and the site would have attracted tourist and generated some income! Some might think its disgusting idea but take the Coliseum in Rome as an example, Today, the Coliseum is one of its most famous landmarks and tourist attractions. Although it survives only as a ruin, it still rates as one of the finest examples of Roman architecture and engineering.
You're a very good writer, well spoken!
Should have treated it similarly to Auschwitz, left intact and not made to be a for-profit tourist trap but rather a museum and educational example of the dangers of the subject matter. Had Jonestown existed in a less remote area or in a more developed country, it's possible the site could've been restored and maintained. Climate and nature is also a huge reason the site quickly deteriorated faster than vandalism alone could've done.
thanks guys , for the heard work to get to Jones town
Wonder if any ghost hunters have been out there trying to pick up on any spirits ?
@Scrumptious Urinal Cakes and my Remington 700 will be waiting
@@livenloud6697 😭🤚
no ghost hunters would be allowed to such a place where such a tragedy took place on such a scale
Says who?
Capt. Gerry, thanks so much for uploading these videos. You played a fascinating role in the aftermath of this tragedy, and did so well and with honour. Two questions : 1. Do you still fly? 2. How did this affect your life?
All the very best! RR
Interesting to hear the Guyana perspective and their news reports, rather than the American ones. Less sensational, and at times seemingly “sympathetic”. Very interesting
Bless you Capt. Gouviea
Google is everyone's friend...
"The buildings were mostly destroyed by a fire in the mid-1980s, after which the ruins were left to decay and be reclaimed by the jungle"
already 10 years
My always tells me about this story and I'm always curious to find out history about my wonderful country Guyana my homeland
If you read up on that belief, that's the last thing the Guyanese govt wants for the country to be remembered worldwide because of what happened there.
I bet they won't spend the night there.. Ghost hunters, this is your nest destination.
Thats what I was thinking
I would go
@Brian James probably illegal, places where such huge tragedies take place are usually off limits, be the same as going to auschwitz and doing a ghost hunt, never going to happen and shouldn't happen
@@shutup2751 There's videos on TH-cam of someone going there with a some local, so I guess people could go there if they're lowkey about it
last thing the country wanted...then, now, and always. Guyana by no means wants to be remembered because of Jonestown, as much the income point could be true.
New York profit huge from 9/11 in tourism to the ground zero. Guyaneans have a gold mine there. Clear the ground, make a Museum. The world have a fascination with Jonestown .
THIS IS VERY INTERESTING
25 years, wow whats it like now, its 40 now.
Haunted
It certainly a pity that we did not use the town... afterwards.
Well looking at that tractor , it looks to me like it has been robbed over the years for spares . Much of it seems missing
@Glenn Braddhaw Actually it is not . The one they drove to the airfield and shot people was a Massey Ferguson 188 . That is clearly and International and they did have one . Can't tell you what model it was though
@Glenn Braddhaw Pitty it was no possible to post pictures up . I have a pitcuture of the tractor actually at the airfield which I found on the internet years ago . also another on of that before it was stripped
Take for e.g Every year Survivors, family of victims, Jim Jones Jr. and others gather at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland CA to remember the Jonestown massacre and dedicate a memorial wall to the victims. Isnt that great, they should do that in Guyana also!
Globe Trotter Yes especially for all the innocent children that died, which would be heartbreaking.
The C.I.A. cleaned it up!
Idiot, another moron thinking this was the CIA
@@andrewhoyle1521 Jim Jones was a confidential informant in Chile in the 60's, which is a far cry from a CIA conspiracy. I was 10 and had relatives at Dover AFB, when this happened. It is burned into my psyche. It doesn't mean that examining the reasons why so many joined a movement, that created so much, isn't possible outside a cult. It's not. They accomplished that, not that sociopathic, drug addicted, maniac.
The CIA didn't clean this up, myself and a lot of PPL from the USAF cleaned this up. Did you know that body bags were not designed to contain body fluids? Do you know that a body rotting in that tropical heats swells up and had to be punctured in order to get it to fit in a body bag? Do you know that 42 years later a person can still smell that horrible smell? Don't tell me the CIA cleaned this up!
mind hunter no we, the USAF cleaned it up.
mind hunter you know because you are a CIA agent and member of Seal team 44 ( the super duper secret seal team) yeah I get it.
i was just thinking what it looked like now and if it was haunted.funny first comment i got my answer! what a sad sad time. strange how i was watching shows recently on jonestown and had no idea that it was to the day yesterday 30+years ago.
Jones town must be haunted?
Why is he trying to put a positive spin on this place??? This was a horrible place, a horrible man and a horrible incident. There is nothing positive about it!!!!! Period!!!!
Honestly, This place could be use for tourism. Reminds me of the killing fields in Phnom Penh.
Of course I am still wondering just who does all that land belong to now ?
The government probably
This video look like 70''s taken😂😂😂
robertmartinez He is a pilot and he was simply in his uniform! :-)
Yes I remember Jonestown I was in my early twenties
Wow How did U survive
Judging by the way they are talking the place is still called Jones Town . Was it ever and is it still officially called that ?
This is scary all that is still there the whole area is probally hauted smh rip to all those childern 😢
You must be an expert, answering all these questions like that.
Are pilots required to wear their uniforms at all times when in public?
Only if the company they work for sets a rule for that to be. Otherwise no, there is no law that requires a pilot to actually wear pilot clothes and gear.
There were three tractors. 2 field and one transport. The transport was used for the gunmen.
So did they bulldoze the buildings?
and who are 'they' Did they also take down things like the main gate sign too?
No, the government made little effort to clean-up the site beyond removing the bodies and taking an inventory of the buildings and items discovered at the site (which you can still read if interested). This was mostly because of cost. Despite People Temple's lease agreement with the government, the Guyanese perspective was that the whole affair included US citizens and was thus more its responsibility (also leveraging the political embarrassment, a different topic altogether). The US assumed most of the cost of bringing the bodies back for examination and burial. It then took the People's Temple to court to recoup the cost but the church was basically bankrupt by then, meaning US taxpayers covered the remaining costs. With a little research you can find pictures taken in 1979 (one year later) by members of the Concerned Relatives. The site was stripped of materials over time by local raiders and a massive fire destroyed remaining structures sometime in the mid 80s.
locals might have hauled them off to live in - i saw in other films the houses were all raised
The way he brandishes rhat machete is double creepy!
the strip on the bottom of the screen destroys the whole video
1/10th. learn geometry
Get that white and blue "Let's Talk" strip off of the screen.
I feel that everything left should have been donated to the Guyana citizens...the machinery, vehicles, anything they wanted to have.
The People's Temple was leasing the land from the Guyanese government and although I do not know the exact terms, I would imagine that the termination of that lease after the mass murders put all site's assets into the hands of the government. I have read that the locals did indeed take/steal materials from the site however (those that were not superstitious). The Guyanese government was offering a lease on the land as part of a program with the aim to discover if farming in the region was viable. Previous to Jonestown, the same site was leased to another group of Americans which according to sources I have read, ultimately preferred to get high and play jazz music (no joke). Jim Jones came forward with a sizable amount of money and a serious workforce so the Guyanese assumed this proposition would be much more promising. Unfortunately not. After Jonestown I believe the area went unused for sometime. It suffered a fire in 1985 and then was used to relocate Hmoung refugees in the late-eighties.
i live in guyana and imma tell u its haunted
how so?
the souls of the people that were killed are not at rest
+Sonia Moore well yea that would be true. I wish someone would go over there and have an evp session
I would love to hear about the supernatural things that happen there
Sonia Moore...Please share what you have heard. Are there cries, screams, spirits walking, etc?
It was a Massey Ferguson 185 or 165 the tractor
Hmmm....thick vegetation....? Wouldnt there be growth of vegetables of some sort?
Who had been robbing that tractor ? The rear wheels are clearly missing and so is all the bonnet works and the engine by the looks of it
I wonder what ever happened to Stephanie Jones.Jim Jones black grand daughter that got her throat slashed at Georgetown and survived. Stephen jones took a picture with his niece after defending her attempted asailant in the Guyanese court and no other stories about her were ever published.
@SaraTGinMD pretty sure they tore em down
I dont think that the encampment had a basketball court, as reports indicate that some 80 survivors were at a tournament when the massacre occured.
There is video footage of them playing basketball at the compound.
A. Why would being at a basketball tournament preclude having a court on the compound? People who like basketball that much always have a court nearby. It costs almost nothing.
B. There’s a shitload of footage of them playing hoops at the compound, in an effort to show how “normal” things were
Jonestown had a tennis court?
I'm currently reading "Seductive Poision: A Jonestown Survivor's Story of Life and Death in the People's Temple". No tennis court mentioned. No leisure time either.
Beth Barton there was a basketball court. The team, one of whom was Jones' adopted son, just happened to be in Georgetown for a tournament when this all happened. Jones had called his son to take his life but he didn't and lives to tell it today.
Beth Barton no leisure time ? There’s a ton of propaganda video of them playing basketball and chess, etc, in an effort to attract followers to join them. Jones was desperate to show how “normal” it was. I don’t understand how someone interested enough in Jonestown to read a book and comment on a TH-cam video doesn’t know this
Neon Frost a clay court would be reclaimed by the jungle in a matter of three or four years. Hell, even in the Midwest it would be grown over and unrecognizable in a decade.
No, they didn't have any of that stuff, as that pilot has no earthly idea what he talking about!!!!!!!! He is clueless of how those people were treated and what went on there.
place definitely has to be haunted
الله اكبر
*is this the place Iggy sang about,*
*"I live here in Kill City where the debris meets the sea"*
Nope. The song was out before this happened and is supposed to reference L A.
I know that tragedy really crazy , but the reporter look like Kanye west
He asked about what type of tractor it is . For what I could make out form the footage at the airstrip It is ether a Massy Ferguson 1100 or 1130 .
2100Rose
Why now
Je fait des cauchemars avec Jim Jones et sa secte à Jonestown
That pilot does not have a clue about jonestown, or what was even there. Are you kidding me?
so quaint and amateurish, what is this, public-access tv?