News Conference With Stephan Jones After The Jonestown Massacre

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  • @benadam7753
    @benadam7753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    For just being 19 and put in a very horrible situation, he handled himself very articulate and honorably!

    • @Mrvl0125
      @Mrvl0125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      People in peoples temple were honest especially the ones not part of the inner circle. They believed in something bigger than themselves. They believed and hoped to bring light to a dark world

  • @barefooboy17
    @barefooboy17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I met him 4 years ago. He turned out well and his life is wonderful and he said he was glad to escape his father's wrath. He's a nice guy

    • @cranford69
      @cranford69 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Goes to show how the Apple CAN fall far away from the tree. NOT like father NOT like son. He could’ve easily turned out like his father. However he didn’t. Unfortunately the mental damage his father caused him is still unknown to this day.

    • @VincentVega93
      @VincentVega93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cranford69 Stephan is a manipulative little shit just like his father, but he isn't as evil as his dad was. Just gray. He's trying to live his life I suppose.

  • @blinderII
    @blinderII 6 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    He seems much older and more mature than a typical 19 year old.

    • @cocowoto
      @cocowoto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It was the environment. Hell, he admits he and his brothers had considered killing Jim at certain points. At first, they didn't because they were worried about his inner circle; later, they thought Jones was going to die from his failing health soon

    • @MsTinkerbelle87
      @MsTinkerbelle87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      With a dad like that you would have to be

    • @tima9790
      @tima9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He writes very well. I'm assuming he was always a smart kid.

    • @docholladay7638
      @docholladay7638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes he's a very well spoken young man.

    • @PixelSubstream
      @PixelSubstream 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That environment made a lot of the kids seem older than they appeared it seems

  • @lovelybones8179
    @lovelybones8179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    You can see the shock and horror in his eyes... He was very wise beyond his years, this guy was only 19 years old at the time.... These days, even 30 year olds aren't as mature and thoughtful as he is at this time... Bless Stephan Jones, he is a good man

    • @Mrvl0125
      @Mrvl0125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree. These days even 40 years old acts like they're 20. I really like the 70s

  • @suzvalentino1901
    @suzvalentino1901 6 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I remember this like it was yesterday. Imagine having to answer to the world about your mad man father.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you think about the people who read the cards and they say they could tell the future. And they tell people to get rid of certain friends because their negative energy

    • @dennismcclain1931
      @dennismcclain1931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like covering his own ass against retaliation from family members of those murdered by his old man.
      Interesting how he wasn't around when daddy decided to off his congregation.
      There was a lot he wasn't telling regarding his own involvement in Jones town.

    • @reedriter
      @reedriter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dennismcclain1931There is no strong evidence he is guilty of anything except being the son of Jim Jones. Luckily we don't punish the son for the sins of the father.

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dennismcclain1931 Stephan Jones and some others were in the Guyanese capital for a basketball tournament. Jim Jones ordered them to return to Jonestown due to the Congressman's visit, but they refused. It's as simple as that. Pretty much the worst you can say about his involvement in Jonestown is that he had a "tough guy" reputation and was involved (as were many others) in intimidating and yelling at people during public meetings.

    • @nomadiccyndi
      @nomadiccyndi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dennis McClain most of the survivors who’ve spoken publicly over the years credit Stephan and his brother Jimmy with doing everything they could to try to stop it once they got word of what was going down. Nineteen years old is just barely into adulthood and the young man in this video has seen and known nothing outside of the people’s temple. I admire the strength and dignity he is showing in the face of overwhelming devastation. And everything I’ve seen or read about him in the decades since seems to confirm that he is an honest, honorable man who has overcome great tragedy. It’s easy to forget, but he is a victim too.

  • @mcbowl58
    @mcbowl58 8 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    He knew how sick his father was

    • @thelocusst
      @thelocusst 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MC Bowl he also seems to know he was against it

    • @wito6998
      @wito6998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ANTI -CORL SQUAD No. It would have been easy to lure him to Georgetown and arrest him. There still might have been chaos in Jonestown, but likely not so many deaths.

    • @superpan218
      @superpan218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He denounces his father. God bless him.

    • @Anonymous-wb3nz
      @Anonymous-wb3nz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      he was a 19 year old kid. Sheesh.

    • @MsTinkerbelle87
      @MsTinkerbelle87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So did his wife, why aren’t you blaming the adults here??

  • @MicheleMJJ
    @MicheleMJJ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Very sad. You can see he is in shock. It would be terrible to have a father who "murdered" over 900 people. It is just awful that his mother had to die.

    • @thehindenburg811
      @thehindenburg811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Michele Huffman it’s awful that all of them had to die

    • @JustMeELC
      @JustMeELC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Actually I believe his mother helped his father commit the murders

    • @trick_nogood68
      @trick_nogood68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      His mother tried to stop it

    • @JustMeELC
      @JustMeELC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lisa Whitt His mother helped hand out the poison ugh

    • @suras8984
      @suras8984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@JustMeELC I had heard in a documentary that the mother was trying to stop them from killing the children and then when the last child was killed she took the poison herself.

  • @subacute
    @subacute 7 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Stephen is a good man, I had the privilege to get to know him for a few years.

    • @seanfisher100
      @seanfisher100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Chris Lalor for real?

    • @boogerboy2420
      @boogerboy2420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      REALLY ????

    • @subacute
      @subacute 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Pickle Rick
      We worked together in the Bay Area in the early nineties.

    • @PrinceOfLillies
      @PrinceOfLillies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Chris Lalor wow! That’s interesting! I always respected what he’s had to say especially from such a difficult position. He went through trauma himself and probably felt like he contribute to the trauma of others. The concepts jim Jones preached were a head of his time in his early days but I’m not sure if he believed them himself or merely knew he could manipulate those who did.
      Would be interesting to know what would have happened had he been born in this time..

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Everybody thought Jim Jones was a good man to I guess anybody can be con

  • @alexisbrown7341
    @alexisbrown7341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    He looks like he's in shock.

    • @LahainaStrong444
      @LahainaStrong444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very sad

    • @fistedwaffle8881
      @fistedwaffle8881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is.. it’s sad that he had to answer all these questions too during this time for him

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My understanding is that this was just a few days after the massacre. Wouldn't you be in shock?

  • @b3ckyb33
    @b3ckyb33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Traumatized! How utterly heartbreaking. He is a beautiful soul.

  • @notsosunnny
    @notsosunnny 8 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Stephan is so shell-shocked here. Look at his eyes. It's super eerie to watch this... :(

    • @harrypaul7329
      @harrypaul7329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      notsosunnny he's not shell shocked, he was in charge of the operations base in the guianian capital.

    • @subacute
      @subacute 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      notsosunnny he is shellshocked and he was not in charge, you have no idea what you're talking about, I was friends with Stephen, he is a very good person.

    • @notsosunnny
      @notsosunnny 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Chris, you replied to the wrong comment. I have nothing but love and sympathy for Stephan. :(

    • @lesterclaypool1
      @lesterclaypool1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      +Harry Paul
      Sharon Amos was in charge of operations in Jamestown.
      Stephen fought his old man at every turn and would not have been trusted with main radio operations. Even yes man son Jim Jones Jr. wasn't trusted with that responsibility.
      +Chris Lalor
      Stephen is a gem of a man. Lived in my brother's neighborhood when the girls were babies.

    • @subacute
      @subacute 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm not sure what Jamestown is, but the Temple's radio house was in Georgetown. Stephen was there with the Temples basketball team playing the Guyanese national team. After the game, he went to the airport eager to see that Ryan made it back safely. Also at the airport were members of "Concerned relatives" anxiously awaiting word of the trip. When it got later and later, Stephen went to the radio house to contact Jonestown. Just minutes before he arrived, Amos slit her children's throat and then her own throat after getting the order from Jonestown. This is where Stephen was arrested.

  • @Chris-od8si
    @Chris-od8si 7 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    What a beautiful man....

    • @ConservativeAnthem
      @ConservativeAnthem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Like Jackson Browne in a cult.

    • @thehindenburg811
      @thehindenburg811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CJ Dawson that’s not the point of the interview

    • @rekunta
      @rekunta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah dude’s a looker. Much better looking now, IMO, with a buzzed head and no mustache.

  • @melaniedeal3518
    @melaniedeal3518 6 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'm glad him and his adopted brother decided not to go back to jonestown

    • @usnationalist8150
      @usnationalist8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he got off easy, he was a step down as crazy as his dad was.

  • @MrHopeTelevision
    @MrHopeTelevision 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    jesus - they think 400 are dead and they're still wondering whether the church will go on - such ridiculous questions

    • @anongirl559
      @anongirl559 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well...the church consisted of a lot more than 400 people & was a huge presence in San Francisco, so it's a fair question (albeit kinda insensitively timed). They had the blessings of Mayor Moscone, Harvey Milk & Governor Reagan before all this went down.

    • @nataliekate2176
      @nataliekate2176 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MrHopeTelevision I think it shows how media has changed so much since then. In cases like this I think it's for the better.. poor kid is basically still in shock.

    • @DarkLight753
      @DarkLight753 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The reason for the low count in deaths is because at first only the bodies that could be seen were counted. It wasn't until they started removing bodies that they realised there were other bodies underneath them.

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@anongirl559 Yeah, there actually *was* talk for about a month after the mass murder-suicides of possibly continuing Peoples Temple in some manner, but Stephan Jones had no interest in succeeding his dad and the Temple was about to have its finances blasted into oblivion anyhow by lawsuits and the like. Peoples Temple effectively died in Guyana on November 18, 1978.

    • @steeveekeys1904
      @steeveekeys1904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems like reporters always are accused of asking the wrong questions.

  • @midnightcaptain8344
    @midnightcaptain8344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is same Stephen who was on the tapes threatening to break someone’s neck if they did not salute him and helping berate members for not working hard enough.

    • @iheartts.
      @iheartts. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can u send me the link to this tape?

    • @midnightcaptain8344
      @midnightcaptain8344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iheartts. th-cam.com/video/ofbGZDbbUsE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pAx_FoJvjwCyxue1

    • @guidedbyshakti544
      @guidedbyshakti544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      which tape is this? If its the final death tape, he wasn't even in Jonestown that week.

    • @midnightcaptain8344
      @midnightcaptain8344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/CiPT-ijaJxE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GCMZMjUO9Dc1DGUM
      In that video there is audio of Stephan talking down to various temple members including him saying he’ll break one of their necks if they don’t salute him.

    • @guidedbyshakti544
      @guidedbyshakti544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@midnightcaptain8344 wow, I had never known this. So much of the aftermath and the accounts of what life was like in Jonestown, I knew from his son Stephen. It’s around the 25:00 mark in that video where he does say this. One could say he was trying to play his part so that he wasn’t abused himself but what does that say of him? He should have stood up for the others and set an example. It would have made more people aware sooner or it would have prevented Jones from acting more crazy either for his own name’s sake. If he killed his son for speaking against that is going to have more dissatisfied and fearing people. If he admonishes him, that would have made people dissatisfied too and doubt if this is all for their good, and would have seen them leaving sooner. You’re right he had a lot of power in this situation that he could have done something anything if he really was a decent person he portrays himself to be. That audio is painful to listen to. People that got turned by hate abusing and breaking the will of their fellow humans. Anything that comes from Stephen’s mouth is to be taken with a grain of salt. Thanks for sharing.

  • @gizzycatcat6468
    @gizzycatcat6468 7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I feel love for this person, he went through a "hell" we could not comprehend.

    • @TCthaCrisis
      @TCthaCrisis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gizzycat cat
      No one? How about the people who were ACTUAL VICTIMS you fucktard

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@TCthaCrisis I'm pretty sure Stephan Jones is a victim too. He lost family members and friends, to his dad no less.

    • @youtold7727
      @youtold7727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TCthaCrisis .....I know it’s an old comment but you need to be shown the asswipe you are. What are you talking about? Your comment makes no sense. I’m done with you I hope you re-read and understand it better.

  • @violeehubbard8702
    @violeehubbard8702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You can see the grief in his eyes

  • @tesseivers6737
    @tesseivers6737 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I have much love and respect for him. He turned out to be such a great and caring man I just wish I could hold him at this time here where he's 19 and tell him it's going to be okay.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the son of the devil no respect his mother was the wife of the devil he knew exactly what was going on he participated in some of the beatings

    • @ashleys8335
      @ashleys8335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      1990758 First of all, the son of the devil isn't the devil. Satan was an angel of God. Where is your information about Stephan Jones participating in the bearings coming from?

  • @Matt92Machine
    @Matt92Machine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hard to believe this is the same person who was participating in all of the beatings and egging them on in the Jonestown tapes.

    • @RAMONECRUTE
      @RAMONECRUTE หลายเดือนก่อน

      HE WAS HAD TO BE HE HAD TO DO WHAT HE HAD TO DO UNFORTUNATELY PLEASE HIS FATHER AND THEM OTHER NUT CASE'S BECAUSE A MANY WAS WITH THE SHYT WHICH THEY HAD TO ALL EYES WERE ON DEM PAC AND OUTLAW'SZ

  • @survivor5044
    @survivor5044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The look in Stephen's eyes says it all. It's ashame he had to carry the guilt for what his father did. 40 years later, he spoke on what happened at Jonestown. He knew at this moment the temple church was done.

  • @pamelacook4896
    @pamelacook4896 7 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    hes really gone through hell. he detested his crazy father

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what you think

    • @joemartin1253
      @joemartin1253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1990758 On the Jonestown tapes you can tell he hated his father.

  • @olivepoola9153
    @olivepoola9153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    He's shellshocked! His mind hasn't completely come to grips with what his dad just did! God Bless the innocent!

    • @bobloblaw2958
      @bobloblaw2958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He never claimed innocence, in his own words he had participated in torture, you can look it up.

    • @olivepoola9153
      @olivepoola9153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bobloblaw2958 I didn't write he was innocent. I wrote "God Bless the innocent!", I was referring to those who were murdered by Jones and his inner circle(murder squad).

    • @usnationalist8150
      @usnationalist8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He wasn’t innocent and neither were the 900 people who drank the koolaid. Only innocent ones were the kids.

    • @vr3142
      @vr3142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@usnationalist8150 not all of the 900 people. Definitely many but atleast half or more didn’t want that.

    • @usnationalist8150
      @usnationalist8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      V R: Yeah cowards, they were gonna die anyways so why not go out with a fight. Idc those people were weird marxist communist who were taken up air in this world.

  • @ClassicDepravities
    @ClassicDepravities 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    wow. i have never seen someone be this shellshocked. if you hear other interviews he's given since then, you know that he didn't believe that there were any survivors at all. that was absolutely everyone he had ever known and loved and all the friends he'd grew up with. That was EVERYONE. it gets sadder when he talks about how his mother fought and screamed and wailed and tried to stop them from killing the children, but when all of the kids were dead, she took the poison willingly.

    • @CSIPiper
      @CSIPiper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Mother mother mother don’t be like that…”

  • @nthedeepblue3521
    @nthedeepblue3521 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    He is utterly one person who looks terrified and confused and is handling shit himself and looks like he is about to break down. Obviously brilliant.. I think he is amazing

    • @ashleys8335
      @ashleys8335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nthe Deepblue Absolutely

    • @LahainaStrong444
      @LahainaStrong444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashleys8335 me too. Very level headed.

    • @usnationalist8150
      @usnationalist8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No he knew it was going to happen. He was a step down as evil as his dad.

    • @johnvalencia9927
      @johnvalencia9927 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@usnationalist8150 yeah seriously. The vibe I'm getting is that he's worried about his own gruesome doings at Jonestown getting out and even leading to prosecution. He was an evil POS who put kids in the hole at Jonestown. Everyone in the comment is blowing Stephan like he's some great guy. I guess it's people drinking the Kool-Aid all over again. Gullible, naive idiots.

  • @pamelacook4896
    @pamelacook4896 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I feel sorry for jim jones son he was only 19

    • @usnationalist8150
      @usnationalist8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol you are easily acceptable to cults so be careful.

    • @j_mcguire
      @j_mcguire 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@usnationalist8150 wtf are you talking about?

  • @lesabeaty7415
    @lesabeaty7415 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I never knew until today that Jim Jones had any children. I've been reading some of Stephan's recollections of life with his father and he's a brilliant writer. I have much respect for how he handled the reporters here. I cannot imagine how it must have felt to basically lose your whole world at one time. He must be a very mentally strong person to have survived this.

  • @tomcooper4991
    @tomcooper4991 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    He is absolutely GORGEOUS

    • @SabiahPolk
      @SabiahPolk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He DOES NOT WANT YOU

    • @tomcooper4991
      @tomcooper4991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SabiahPolk how would you know?

    • @RAMONECRUTE
      @RAMONECRUTE หลายเดือนก่อน

      ITS SAID THAT HIS FATHER WAS GORGEOUS ALSO AND HIS LOOKS HELPED WHAT HE WAS ABLE TO DO...

  • @lolar.8778
    @lolar.8778 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    He is gorgeous

    • @TeeHeejab
      @TeeHeejab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The son was beautiful, sensitive and well spoken. Jim Jones was a very handsome man in his youth. Reminded me of young elvis, old elvis. Too bad he was a malignant narcissist.

    • @amywhite9972
      @amywhite9972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes Steven was gorgeous. Still is!! If he'd grow his hair out, he'd look like his dad now that he's older. I believe it's telling that he seems to go out of his way now to not favor his dad. Still gorgeous though..

    • @Perfectpearl
      @Perfectpearl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was

    • @HeyYo8
      @HeyYo8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Perfectpearl Who

    • @truenorth7949
      @truenorth7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yup, both his mom and dad had great bone structure, Stephen got great genes from both

  • @tcbgarage2845
    @tcbgarage2845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Such a smart well spoken man. He can see it for what it was.
    His brother Jim Jr seems mad in comparison.

  • @probunnysaavy2971
    @probunnysaavy2971 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Stephen knew that there was a possibility that this could happen. The code word was "Mr. Frasier".

  • @eshim3961
    @eshim3961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    @6:47: The woman who they panned in on is named Paula Adams. She was one of the women who was used to decide Guyanese officials, so that she could act as a spy. She actually fell in love with one of her targets, Laurence Mann, ambassador to the US, moved back to the states with him and remained with him until he killed her and their child in a murder -suicide. This is only one example of how tragedy followed many of the survivors long after this occurred.

  • @Toracube
    @Toracube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He talks very differently here to the way he does on the tapes.

  • @alanmiley100
    @alanmiley100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My heart hurts for Stephan Jones and all of those beautiful people. He sure appears to be grounded in reality.

  • @Mrvl0125
    @Mrvl0125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They were not even allowed to process everything before interviewing the survivors. I can only imagine how hard it was

  • @topten2828
    @topten2828 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thom Bogue says that when he was running away stephen caught him and alsl he was part of discipline.

  • @spb7883
    @spb7883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “We never dreamed this would happen” - They rehearsed it and Jones discussed it, for goddess sakes.

    • @Ccfatfat8427
      @Ccfatfat8427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stephen and Jim Jr. both thought it was malarkey doing those rehearsals, Jim Jr. talked about it

  • @trutj22
    @trutj22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't like him one bit . He knows more than he is saying and just rubs me the wrong way

    • @mariahyohannes
      @mariahyohannes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's because he was verbally abusive and a bully just like his father. All those tapes you can hear Stephen being a bully right alongside his father and the fact that he has never apologized is what irritates me

  • @anongirl559
    @anongirl559 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How sad, he didn't even know that everyone he knew & loved was dead. Don't know if I could go on after something like this. Imagine losing 900+ of your closest friends & loved ones. People you lived & worked with every day. Wondering why YOU were spared. Hats off to all the survivors who are still hanging in there.

    • @lauriej.3544
      @lauriej.3544 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was spared by his father by being sent to Georgetown, Guyana for a basketball tournament; I really doubt that it was a random decision. In Julia Scheere's book A Thousand Lives, many witnesses report on how cruel he was to people in Jonestown including children.

    • @ladybuggs11
      @ladybuggs11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He was spared by his mother. His father didn’t want him to go to Georgetown and ordered him to come back to Jonestown on the 17th, which he refused to do.

  • @MusicandDancing4Ever
    @MusicandDancing4Ever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Steven was a bully within Jonestown. Listen to the tapes. He was involved in beatings and cruelties. He was being groomed to take his father spot. He knew all this would happen. He was trying to save his ass in this.

    • @c.2538
      @c.2538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you!!! I thought I was the only person not liking his vibe. He’s way more self righteous and composed than you would expect from somebody who was at least partially complicit in the deaths of 900+ people. He’s lucky he’s attractive & reasonably smart. It really helped him get ahead of the narrative here.

    • @DafneMarchesan
      @DafneMarchesan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      which tapes specifically?

    • @jordantaylor6602
      @jordantaylor6602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what tapes? would love to listen

    • @MattiusFincham
      @MattiusFincham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I see your argument, and I'd agree he's not entirely innocent, but take into consideration that he was probably coerced into acting along with his father, under his instructions, amidst these atrocities.

    • @6412mars
      @6412mars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn right he was involved in beatings!

  • @patronmargarita2849
    @patronmargarita2849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The lies, the lies, the lies

  • @harrypaul7329
    @harrypaul7329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    this interview was immediately after the Mass suicide.

    • @LahainaStrong444
      @LahainaStrong444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But he didn't know the status of it at the time of this reporting.

    • @LahainaStrong444
      @LahainaStrong444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like mass MURDER.

  • @charlottecrisp1346
    @charlottecrisp1346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Poor thing! Hes a very handsome young man

    • @LilySteph1949
      @LilySteph1949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What does that have to do with it

  • @RaeBattleRapsMood
    @RaeBattleRapsMood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Word is his mother sent him & others away for a basketball tournament. I think she knew what was to come..

    • @kepler798
      @kepler798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She knew what was coming and stayed back ,I don't think so.

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tournament was long planned. Maybe Jim picked that time because he knew Stephan would stop him. Then again, he did try to order the team back, but Stephan refused and saved all of the San Francisco group and almost all of the Georgetown group by demanding that they ignore the order.

  • @oldpete22
    @oldpete22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How did he not know it was going to happen? They had discussions about how to do it and they practiced doing it.

  • @powerofknowledge7771
    @powerofknowledge7771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm so sorry that this man had to go through all this! Could you imagine the trauma he's had to go through? The trauma he has to live with for the rest of his life?! Could you imagine being raised by a sociopath as a helpless child? Hurts my heart. 💔

    • @dora1980
      @dora1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What trauma? The 900 dead people including t 300 kids who were murdered and their families had the trauma not the Jones kids who coincidentally are alive right now.

    • @powerofknowledge7771
      @powerofknowledge7771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dora1980 He has to live with that for the rest of his life. Imagine if your parent was leading a cult and killed a bunch of people and you saw all of that craziness.... that wouldn't be traumatic for you? Or would you be cool with it?

    • @dora1980
      @dora1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@powerofknowledge7771 no I would not be cool but from what I hear this man was not different than his father.

    • @darkmatter7182
      @darkmatter7182 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dora1980 I know he was trying to stop it.

    • @dora1980
      @dora1980 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkmatter7182 What do you mean you know? You were there? .His dad sent him and his adopted son to a basketball game that was maybe miles away .He didn't' t try nothing.They were doing rehearsals for suicide for God's sake!

  • @allison_catherine
    @allison_catherine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This man....he’s actually shook...

  • @jasonpeters9865
    @jasonpeters9865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is absolutely no need for a lie detector test. Just look at his eyes. Absolute truth.

  • @ricalineoasllim9201
    @ricalineoasllim9201 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nothing but admiration for this guy. In the face of such harsh and sensitive adversity he handled himself well.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why didn't he do anything when all those people will be an abuse the old people in children if he was not off in a way playing basketball he would have drunk the Kool-Aid too

    • @1990758
      @1990758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beautifulkindness5840 I did I think it was about in the mid-80s I think it was grape flavor

    • @cocokai9661
      @cocokai9661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1990758 Why didn't the other 900 people who were there? He was a teenager. This was his father. His obedience is very understandable to most of us. That you lack the necessary IQ to understand is evident. Good luck with that.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cocokai9661 I know everything there is about the Jonestown situation I'm not a product of genetic breeding. I don't believe in luck I believe in faith I understand your frustration but it will only lead to high blood pressure

    • @cocokai9661
      @cocokai9661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1990758 You're not a product of genetic breeding? Please explain what type of breeding you are a product of? Perhaps you mean you're a product of inbreeding?

  • @nataliemay415
    @nataliemay415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For a 19 year old, he handed that well. Even more so considering it was his own dad.

  • @muurisoras5878
    @muurisoras5878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This man has been consistent all through. He is a good man who is also very handsome.

    • @usnationalist8150
      @usnationalist8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂. He was caught on tape beating members along with the other black brother. Both should of been charged.

  • @southsydesasha7268
    @southsydesasha7268 8 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Poor Stephen. Him not at the time knowing all were dead besides a handfull of escaped ppl who told him what went down- later. Its so eeirie to watch this and everything put on his shoulders bc its His dads only living bio son. Too sad tragic and SENCELESS.

    • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
      @user-uo8ny1kj4c 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this has nothing to do with the masaccre... -.-

    • @TheJurnalyst
      @TheJurnalyst 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C Green you're*.

    • @TheJurnalyst
      @TheJurnalyst 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      southsyde Sasha senseless*.

    • @cgreen5913
      @cgreen5913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheJurnalyst eat shit* you*

    • @TheJurnalyst
      @TheJurnalyst 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      C Green Don't* breed* as you wouldn't* be able to teach them properly.

  • @kathleenorourke6917
    @kathleenorourke6917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well spoken, rational teenager! God bless him and his children. 😢

  • @tegwenhafparry7488
    @tegwenhafparry7488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He is such a beautiful person inside and out!

  • @nakiacee15
    @nakiacee15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    he's shook because he knows if he would've been there he woulda also been forced to drink the flavor aid or injected with it.

  • @princessoffire1107
    @princessoffire1107 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Bless his heart :(

  • @NewsHistorian
    @NewsHistorian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The woman next to him is Paula Adams who was one of the first settlers in Guyana and became in effect the liaison with the Guyanese government.

  • @susanhicks9305
    @susanhicks9305 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    His eyes.....

  • @clmoore0425
    @clmoore0425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A lot of people say he was not innocent

  • @adycee2915
    @adycee2915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a decent man this young adult came to be. His father's virtues & vision less all the ego and paronoia.

  • @ashleys8335
    @ashleys8335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The concern in his voice 💔

  • @talesofthetalltechnician6911
    @talesofthetalltechnician6911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    If you have read the book "A Thousand Lives" by Julia Scheere, your first thought about Stephan Jones will be "how in the world is this man not in prison?" According to the survivor accounts in this book, he acted like a concentration camp guard in Jonestown; hitting people, abusing them, threatening children, aiming a rifle at two teenage boys who tried to escape ... Amazing that he is a free and respected man today.

    • @MrsP474
      @MrsP474 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      People blame Jim Jones for everything but he is far from the most guilty one.

    • @tcvttcvt4305
      @tcvttcvt4305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah he comes across as a little too smooth here , especially considering that his father just killed 900 people.

    • @sabrinahuff8440
      @sabrinahuff8440 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tales of the Tall Technician I agree plus he was putting kids in hole the black box and people pity this monster. Like father like son . Read the book I think you might like this book: a.co/bhi8bxU

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MrsP474 How is Jim not the most guilty one? He ordered nearly a thousand people to "suicide" themselves while armed guards surrounded them and forcibly injected those who refused. Obviously he had accomplices, but Stephan wasn't among them. He was many miles away in Georgetown.

    • @MrsP474
      @MrsP474 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Ismail I wasn't referring to Stephan. I was referring to the inner circle. They were terrible enablers. They ordered the poison, mixed it, handed it out. Very willing to do all of it.

  • @4thandinches
    @4thandinches 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    8:06 Bright man, but just described what socialism actually leads to, yet did not realize it.

    • @Theflowoflove
      @Theflowoflove 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol)))

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's a bright man but he's still around and let all that happen I guess if you were around back then you would have drank the Kool-Aid too

    • @georgiatechur
      @georgiatechur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, this is not what socialism leads to. This is what blind loyalty and craziness does..

    • @steeveekeys1904
      @steeveekeys1904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this profound statement. I learned that watching bullwinkle and rocky cartoons back when I was 4. We all know we can't trust anybody named Boris.

  • @michaelmcdonald8452
    @michaelmcdonald8452 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "hE LoOkS LiKe he'S iN SHOCK!!!!"
    Well what the hell ELSE would he look like? 🤦

  • @robinmills5643
    @robinmills5643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think what we need to realize is Stephen, and his 2 brothers were victims as well. I mean really, who'd wanna carry around that legacy, and all of their memories... good and bad

  • @immir6647
    @immir6647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So basically Jim saved his own children by making sure they were away while poisoning the children of many, many others. What a huge scumbag. It's not this man's fault but it makes it worse in a way

    • @gingerdavis8071
      @gingerdavis8071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You need to do some research on this matter. Jim Jones radioed Jim Jones Jr at Georgetown and told him to make sure all members there killed themselves. Jr and Stephan tried to get someone at the US embassy to get them to Jonestown to try to stop it. Their father tried to stop them from going to Georgetown for the basketball tournament they were scheduled to compete in and Marceline insisted they go.

  • @richardfuchs3690
    @richardfuchs3690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you listen to the Jonestown tapes, you will see a different picture of Stephen than the peace-and-love persona he presents today. Watch how he starts stuttering when the subject of guns comes up.

    • @k.t155
      @k.t155 ปีที่แล้ว

      Links to the tapes ?

  • @DaNewBishop
    @DaNewBishop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    He's handsome... He's adorable... he's this, he's that.. Who's gives a flying fuck about how good he looks?

    • @katerinag9512
      @katerinag9512 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      DaNewBishop I agree, people are weird.

    • @butterflymustfly_1232
      @butterflymustfly_1232 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      DaNewBishop No kidding. 😝!

    • @harolddavidson8337
      @harolddavidson8337 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      you know what DaNewBishop
      He sure is handsome and adorable
      a very good looking stud muffin indeed LOL

    • @johnpatrick3458
      @johnpatrick3458 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      DaNewBishop why you so mad bro? Lol.

    • @richardfuchs3690
      @richardfuchs3690 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If this was a female people were drooling over, there'd be a big fuss made of it.

  • @tayloradams372
    @tayloradams372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i know he was sad but he had really good features

  • @wanderingfondest4037
    @wanderingfondest4037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He was a good looking young man.looked nothing like his dad.jim got so bloated in the face,maybe matching his ego.Blowing his mind with his own evil geniusness,so his face retained that fatheadedness

  • @beautifullieperfectdenial4712
    @beautifullieperfectdenial4712 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He looks so terrified here terrified and shell shocked.

    • @TCthaCrisis
      @TCthaCrisis 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      beautifullie perfectdenial
      I don't see that at all. I think you just want to see that

    • @beautifullieperfectdenial4712
      @beautifullieperfectdenial4712 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see it clearly your just blind. And I never said that I wanted to see that you're an idiot.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because he's think he's going to get arrested I can see he's convinced you to like father like son

  • @sallythomas8599
    @sallythomas8599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How was it such a surprise when they had several practice runs of suicide. His father gave poison to followers to test their loyalty which turned out to be placebo but told them the day would be coming soon when it would be real.

  • @johnerickson4064
    @johnerickson4064 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He lied a few times there, he knew damn well how many guns were out there being he was one of the top security. He also knew about the beatings and the box.

  • @dnlcast2
    @dnlcast2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    He looks like one of the singer's of the Bee Jees 🎧🎸🎹🎶

  • @bawoman
    @bawoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He seems like a good guy, and good looking too. Not like his pos father (and mother too). Thank god he didn't inherit their horrible traits.

    • @dora1980
      @dora1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If he was ugly you would say the same thing? I don't know his story very well but other people here say that Stephen used to beat and in the end killed some people there.

  • @melbatoast6403
    @melbatoast6403 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Stephan is either a sincerely caring, intelligent, and articulate young man processing an exceptionally painful situation amazingly well.
    Or he's a silver tongue devil like his father, who knows the right thing to say at any given time in order to maximize his chances of getting what he wants.

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well there's no evidence of the latter, so I think it's safe to go with the former. I don't even know what he could "get what he wants" out of the situation he was in at that moment besides not look stupid or "brainwashed" in front of the media.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Somewhat like his father

    • @Agile3040
      @Agile3040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mel Ba The latter, that’s for sure. He’s unusually calm in the midst of a massacre and a bit snarky.

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Agile3040 Not everyone reacts to a tragedy by crying their eyes out in front of cameras. He was part of security in Jonestown and it seems he acted as a sort of informal leader for the settlement's inhabitants who happened to be in the Guyanese capital at the time of the mass murder-suicides.
      Where you see a "silver tongue devil" I just see a guy who is able to hold up pretty well given the circumstances. They didn't even know the full extent of the tragedy yet; they still had hope that hundreds of people had fled into the surrounding jungle.

    • @Agile3040
      @Agile3040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ismail Prior to the mass killings Jim Jones had cyanide and assault weapons shipped to Guyana. Jim was doing and saying a lot of creepy things long before the mass killings. Yet his son is sitting there like a deer in headlights and playing dumb and innocent. But of course.

  • @silentactor558
    @silentactor558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He look like Christ Cornell

  • @domoniquehair2803
    @domoniquehair2803 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    he still looks scared

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Of course he does he's probably think he's going to get arrested

    • @ZenithAstrology
      @ZenithAstrology 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      19 year olds can’t understand much

  • @skoobylove1971
    @skoobylove1971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THESE REPORTERS ARE GREEDY AND THIRSTY.

  • @steeveekeys1904
    @steeveekeys1904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I don't know anything about those guns"' "I don't know nothing about that money". It's funny how people in the thick of Jonestown don't know anything about anything.

  • @coryzachariasen7023
    @coryzachariasen7023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The guns were stored in Stephens room, he knew all about the guns, he took care of the guns

    • @martimcshy
      @martimcshy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool story bro, lets see the proof

    • @lisaknight4986
      @lisaknight4986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martimcshy jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=29043

    • @cocokai9661
      @cocokai9661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@martimcshy There is no real proof. Only a burning desire that it be true and be believed. Steven was investigated thouroughly after the tragedy. Records and other survivors were examined. Steven was cleared. End of story.

  • @YuesWoman
    @YuesWoman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stephan and his brother are both such good people. They deserved better.

  • @mariajones9739
    @mariajones9739 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow he speaks absolutely a grades at 19. Under them circumstances as well. I belive he was as brain washed and scared as the rest

  • @jimmyo1123
    @jimmyo1123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    he was adorable back then

    • @renaecianci3526
      @renaecianci3526 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And for awhile after too. Marceline and Jim were not unattractive people.

    • @MrsP474
      @MrsP474 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, Jim was very handsome and Marceline was pretty!

    • @fvaletudo06
      @fvaletudo06 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wtf

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep Jim Jones could have got you two to drink the Kool-Aid

    • @joemartin1253
      @joemartin1253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1990758 Flavor Aid.

  • @albertopereira5329
    @albertopereira5329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is only one God and only Holy One the name is Jesus Christ mighty and Peace in the world Love and Save your soul💙

  • @jasonpeters9865
    @jasonpeters9865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always believed the pureness of this man.

  • @xanthiamcdermott8500
    @xanthiamcdermott8500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am like him speechless at what happened

  • @beautifulbecause8409
    @beautifulbecause8409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He was also physically abusive and verbally abusive. He sat on the throne with his father

  • @stevenkarras3490
    @stevenkarras3490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stephan is a righteous man!! These were good people manipulated by a psychopath and he was under no delusions, even at the time of this interview.

  • @skoobylove1971
    @skoobylove1971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    STOP SAYING THESE PEOPLE WAS BRAINWASHED!! SHIT WAS GOOD UNTIL HE GOT ON DRUGS.

  • @jennifermaynard1973
    @jennifermaynard1973 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    He looks like Chris Cornell.

    • @violetblue8216
      @violetblue8216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He's beautiful like Chris.

    • @stellashepherd844
      @stellashepherd844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jennifer Maynard
      I was trying to figure out who he looked like. I was thinking Chris Cornell or Jackson Browne or James Taylor when they were wrong.

    • @sherrigilson7276
      @sherrigilson7276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seriously that's what sticks out to you? And I don't think he looks like Chris.

    • @LilySteph1949
      @LilySteph1949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. But what does looks have to do with this

  • @billhodges2157
    @billhodges2157 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This man had to know something was about to go down, even subconsciously

    • @Theflowoflove
      @Theflowoflove 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point. They had enough practice runs.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He knew everything if he was there he would have drank the Kool-Aid too

    • @june049
      @june049 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did any of the children of Jones die? I'm glad to see that at least 3 of his children survived, but it's very curious that they were not there or if so, they were not killed.

    • @jeffstipp6872
      @jeffstipp6872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      -@@june049 -Yes, his daughter Agnes died; so did sons Johnny and Lew. I've never seen this in any documentary; I highly recommend the book RAVEN by Tim Reiterman.

    • @1990758
      @1990758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnwilliams-ec1kw there's no reason for me to watch the video I've been so intrigued about Jonestown since it happened I've seen just about every video that has to do with it. That's not why he sent his sons to Georgetown

  • @garyamador690
    @garyamador690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am so sorry about everything discussed here! So glad Stephan has lived a long life and hope he was able to find peace!

  • @davidguardado8282
    @davidguardado8282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This man looks very powerful, able to control himself and others, a bit too cold though; not somebody I would trust straightforward. At the same time he's charismatic, handsome and clearly intelligent. I don't know if he has inherited those traits from his father, but he could probably be a leader in any area or community he wanted to. For some reason though he activates in me some defense mechanisms, like the ones I would have keeping a wolf as a pet, like 'better safe than sorry'.

    • @johnvalencia9927
      @johnvalencia9927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, well listen to the Jonestown tapes brother. He was an evil monster.

    • @slimpaco
      @slimpaco ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was a jerk in Jonestown. He's talked about in recent years how he was afraid that he could become like his father as he got older.

  • @lauraluffman6177
    @lauraluffman6177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP to all victims especially the children

  • @martimcshy
    @martimcshy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Back when media was objective and simply asked questions. Now they work to get their way politically

    • @dora1980
      @dora1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The best comment.

  • @deborahhead6102
    @deborahhead6102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't forget he was 19 when his father did what he did.

  • @keriioppolo4024
    @keriioppolo4024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So sorry all this happened to you. You did so wonderful with your life. I am so proud of you. I don’t judge anyone.

  • @winngriff
    @winngriff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He was still an insider whose name was called up in stuff

  • @electrolytics
    @electrolytics 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look at this guy BSing his way out of culpability. He actively held people against their wills and punished people. He was part of the security squad that kept people from escaping.
    Is he running a cult today? Is he living off blood money today from his father's cult?

  • @whythe48
    @whythe48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steven is a good man he wasn't disillusioned he knew his Father was on drugs and losing his mind and he doesn't apologize he has no reason to do I'd say he was the only one to stand up to Jim Jones and still be alive