The Marques of Londonderry sold his castle in the late 90s to a self made coal miners son. The Marques said " good for him and wished him well". That's true class .
BBC should do a series on how the British aristocracy came to great wealth and social position. From my readings, it seems almost essential to have a cunning thief, Royal bastard, or a king’s whore in the family origins.
I doubt he needed to see this documentary. More than likely, the makers consulted him. Besides, the scandal that ruined the father of Lady Sibyl and Lady Dorothy in the 1930's was well known in England.
Poland is one of the finest and most underrated cultures, the home of Chopin and Copernicus. Poland has also been a country that has invested in archaeology for early Christian sites in North Africa. It is sad what happened to Poland and families like yours in the 20th century but it's good to see Poland doing so well today.
@@ToND1Ne and what culture isn't at least 2 of all of those things? Poland took in Europe's refugees for hundreds of years before Germany and Russia attacked on all sides over the course of 80+ years. Only the USA can claim to be more diverse and generous.
No one is "feeling sorry"! It is only said, that they had gone through "a most ghastly trauma during WW I"! Which they actually did, along with all the other social strata! It's merely a description, not solidarity...
Were does my comment say abt eugenics? Please explain as I'd love to hear we did lose the best of people in all ranks of life some people just want to pick an argument but not with me find someone else
Norma Thomas very true and our country changed I find these documentary’s fascinating and part of our heritage ! As for bringing fox hunting into this it is not only aristocracy the partake in this ! There are a lot of meets that are made up of farmers and ordinary people giving their horses a blast before the competition season x
Great to see two of the "Beauchamp Belles", Lady Sibell & Lady Dorothy. The way they stuck by there father during the scandal was wonderful. Bless them.
This must have been filmed much earlier than 1997... If those two women were at the hunt and only in the 80s during the filming then it must be from the 80s if not earlier than that...
Okay, so having money isn't enough for the aristocracy. You need good lineage, but everyone has to start somewhere right? I mean how many aristocratic families can honestly trace their lineage back to the Norman Conquest? What is the proper, noble way of entering the aristocracy if not being massively rich?
MobiusCoin It's not about the money. The aristocrats are where they are now because they ancestor have enough power to protect your ancestors from attack of other people, so your ancestor give their ancestor privileges as a "thank you" gesture for protecting them. They gain titles for doing service to the King.
@@AlexS-oj8qf Money is also the ultimate power...even if the aristocrats dont have money they need support or backing from someone who does...as u say like the King.
My late dear friend and co-worker Constance Deighton Simpson who died in 1984 was a friend of the Lygons. The last Earl Beauchamp was Connie's great romance.
Why can't I feel too sorry for these people??? Anyone would think they were the only ones to suffer in the first war............At least they had a social and monetary buffer against the loss of the sole breadwinner in a working class family. Arrogant old sods who won't admit to being in the wrong even in the face of incontrovertible evidence of needless cruelty to animals.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Yes, the bankers have too much power, but so did the aristocracy. At least a person can now scheme and lie their way to the top regardless of the circumstances of their birth...Under aristocratic rule, you have to be born into it, or one of the lucky few who marries into it.
@@freedomwatch3991 Being good at scheming and playing the game doesn't mean that someone is evil. Evil is a very specific thing. And you do have people who are smart and talented and know how to be strategic to get to the top...It's not all about being evil. That said, right now there are also many different levels of wealth and high society and improving one's station in life. It's not always being at the very top.
Interesting that the Marchioness of Londonderry could not stand 'bad manners' (10:03) yet was 'a very frightening woman'' (11:44), which is, of course, the height of bad manners.
Fox is cunning but hardly wrth hunting,fox hunt would probably be a social event,to enjoy a good days horse riding with friends, also the dogs would get a good exercise .
No I am Not trolling sir i am descended from a landed family in India and lost all during the Government issued land reformations in india so i know what i am talking about
Reckless riding, animal hunts, etc. It seems like bad manners, waste and cruelty are the traits of this group. This is dìfficult to watch with an open mind.
The aristocrats must have their rights. If the commoner oppresses the upper classes that is tyranny of the majority! But neither should they oppress the common man.
+Susan Harris you are dreaming. The US has old money from the 17th cen. and older. The problem are those robber Baron families from the late 19th have ruined the US with all these commoners who have no eye for culture or education.
What a twisted, long-running soap opera! A hardworking refrigerated meat packer buys his baronetage, and therefore "corrupts" polite society. Now, as the 3rd generation, his elderly grandson is laundered white enough to be one of the Queen's pets (Master of the Horse / KCVO, etc.), and is therefore firmly "accepted". Grapes are mere berries until they age in the cask. Eventually, they become a fine bottle of wine with a fancy label and price - enjoyed after quietly sitting still and doing very little over many years. The hypocrisy of this series is both thick & remarkable - and terribly fascinating. Everyone's in on the joke - be it for a thousand years of pedigrees, or just three generations of noble descent from a (dare I say it?) hard-working meat packer. Yet everyone else plays along: kow-tows, collects royal souvenir china tea cups, and flocks to tour the great houses - especially if the tour guide is an unlucky & indigent noble and can be seen and possibly asked a question. Hooray, Hyacinth Bucket ! Er, BooKAY - Lady of the house...
The math doesn't add up. How could they only be in their 80's? Even if 89, it means born in 1908, and there's no way the two girls pictured in 1919 are anywhere remotely near the age of 11, far closer to 20 by the looks of them.
Mary Hollingsworth Rhys Hoffman Agreed. The Fox is Truly my favorite wild animal. One must fantasize of the "tight-arse' Brits" getting their just in the hereafter, being met at the gate by a Black Woman with an Irish accent, carrying a Fox - and saying, "Come on in, we were short one for the hunt"! And the Fox grins! Sweet, huh!?! ☘🇺🇸🇮🇪☘
Will someone please explain whom the younger woman was with the hunting horn? Was she trying to divert the hunt or somehow interfere with it? Why were the old ladies so upset with her?
+James Claude She's...as she states, a hunt saboteur...there to sabotage the hunt. So yes, she's trying to divert and interfere with the hunt and that's why the old ladies were upset with her.
The Fox is Truly my favorite wild animal. *One must fantasize of the "tight-arse' Brits"* *getting their just in the hereafter, being met at the gate by a Black Woman with an Irish accent, carrying a Fox - and saying* : "Come on in, we were short one for the hunt"! ...... *and the Fox grins!* Sweet, huh!?! ☘🇺🇸🇮🇪☘
British Aristocracy dead?! What with 2 old etonians running the country and now this from the Observer [The British public has endured the expenses scandal, a cabinet minister describing police officers as plebs and a labour MP sending alleged snobby tweets about "white van men" But for sheer chutzpah, the peers of the realm have potentially topped the lot. It has emerged that a proposal to save tax-payer's money by making peers and MP's share a catering department which was rejected because the Lord's feared the quality of champagne would not be as good if they chose a joint service]
tincoffin Wrong! More than a third of Great Britain today is owned by the Aristocracy. Look up the Duke of Westminster & Buccleuch, Richard Scott & Gerald Grosverner for openers to show how wrong your post is.
Hi there Rocky! A belated "Happy New Year" to you. Trusting you get to read my brief message of the experiences over about 10/12 years being in the employment of two different families in the Aristocracy! As you so rightly described being filthy rich!! is an understatement!! Speaking so eloquently as if there is a plum stuck in their mouths or one up the backside? was often of great amusement to myself! It was one hell of both a learning curve and alas and sadly a bad experience! The more work you carried out! the more that was expected!! It was noticed often how it was a THEM! and US! meaning being looked down upon and inadvertently making you feel somewhat an underdog and sub-servient! You could not help but see and hear their greed of position and money!!! particularly where MONEY!!! is concerned. With many hours of extra work and very often going the extra mile and beyond the call of duty and in fairness to be paid the due extra money was paid, but reluctantly!! On one experience with the "Lady" of the household speaking and treating me as if I was a piece of Shit! under her shoe was the last straw until I plucked up the courage and gave her in return a raging verbal hiding of her behaviour and character towards me. Slowly! but surely after that I was able to gain better respect of this tyrant and mutual respect was eventually gained on both sides. How cruel members of the Aristocracy can be has been well known for decades and working for them was a true eye opener! When it came upon my retirement and was asked if I would like to continue working for a while longer? I turned down the offer resulting in causing inconvenience to them, upsetting the applecart and having to put themselves out to find suitable replacement causing resentment to the point that over a certain incident being called a liar after working so hard for so many years! The matter never got resolved and was glad to see it was going to be a great loss to them and none to myself and left the establishment. To finish! I personally would NOT! recommend working for any family in the Aristocracy to anyone for they are so frickin above themselves in all they stand for! I hope I may get a reply from you, it can only be but an interesting one??? Keep well and Keep safe throughout 2022. Kind regards, BJG.
Hard not to feel SOME sympathy for these silly old toffs, now, more or less, extinct. Thankfully. Their class and generation just never 'got it'. They never gave a toss for the squalor and poverty their compratiots were obliged to endure. They just turned many a blind eye. Ironically, the best monarch Britain only just got, the Duke of Windsor, DID have a social conscience. That was why 'the Establishment' got rid of him. HIMself was a hunter. But there's little coping with minor intelligence and poor education.
Fox hunting is important in uk heritage also even though the aristocracy were ignorant you have to feel sorry for them and I’m no old sod, I’m 14 years old and studies history
The Marques of Londonderry sold his castle in the late 90s to a self made coal miners son. The Marques said " good for him and wished him well". That's true class .
Sad
Self made coal minors son my ass
BBC should do a series on how the British aristocracy came to great wealth and social position. From my readings, it seems almost essential to have a cunning thief, Royal bastard, or a king’s whore in the family origins.
That would nice.
Don't forget anal sex!
wow Lady Mary, Lady Edith and Lady Sybil.....seems Julian Fellows has seen this documentary...
asuka0278 true! :-D
I doubt he needed to see this documentary. More than likely, the makers consulted him. Besides, the scandal that ruined the father of Lady Sibyl and Lady Dorothy in the 1930's was well known in England.
This is what makes youtube so special! Thank you for posting
Why!!! Is it soecial
Poland is one of the finest and most underrated cultures, the home of Chopin and Copernicus. Poland has also been a country that has invested in archaeology for early Christian sites in North Africa. It is sad what happened to Poland and families like yours in the 20th century but it's good to see Poland doing so well today.
Unfortunately, it is also deeply racist, rabidly homophobic, & misogynistic.
@@ToND1Ne and what culture isn't at least 2 of all of those things?
Poland took in Europe's refugees for hundreds of years before Germany and Russia attacked on all sides over the course of 80+ years. Only the USA can claim to be more diverse and generous.
@@ToND1Ne & you are brainwashed.
@@ToND1Ne Good
Excellent footage !
I’m quite interested in aristocratic history
quite
Equally
Perhaps you are one of them.
As am I.
That's how they con us all...........
That was the most polite protester ever for the fox hunt.
No one is "feeling sorry"! It is only said, that they had gone through "a most ghastly trauma during WW I"! Which they actually did, along with all the other social strata! It's merely a description, not solidarity...
In this video there was a lady Sybil, a lady Edith and a lady Mary, what a coincidence for Downton Abbey fans 🥰
".....pass lady bracknel the cucumber sandwiches....."
the whole of this country changed during the first world war we lost the best of people in all ranks
+Norma Thomas your a believer in eugenics also?
Were does my comment say abt eugenics? Please explain as I'd love to hear we did lose the best of people in all ranks of life some people just want to pick an argument but not with me find someone else
+TheWomblemaster I do...
That's what war usually does.
Norma Thomas very true and our country changed I find these documentary’s fascinating and part of our heritage ! As for bringing fox hunting into this it is not only aristocracy the partake in this ! There are a lot of meets that are made up of farmers and ordinary people giving their horses a blast before the competition season x
Great to see two of the "Beauchamp Belles", Lady Sibell & Lady Dorothy. The way they stuck by there father during the scandal was wonderful. Bless them.
I think the main victim here was their mother who was deserted by all except the youngest son
@@mgrainger3805 You have to ask yourself why, & by many accounts she was a very odd woman.
@@jackr1779 Well Sir lets agree to disagree
@@mgrainger3805 Well its a fact...but sure, I'm not that bothered.
@@jackr1779 Sir would you be kind enough to mention the source of the many accounts according to which she was a very odd woman.
This must have been filmed much earlier than 1997... If those two women were at the hunt and only in the 80s during the filming then it must be from the 80s if not earlier than that...
This film series started in 1970 through 1997. More is posted .
Okay, so having money isn't enough for the aristocracy. You need good lineage, but everyone has to start somewhere right? I mean how many aristocratic families can honestly trace their lineage back to the Norman Conquest? What is the proper, noble way of entering the aristocracy if not being massively rich?
MobiusCoin It's not about the money. The aristocrats are where they are now because they ancestor have enough power to protect your ancestors from attack of other people, so your ancestor give their ancestor privileges as a "thank you" gesture for protecting them. They gain titles for doing service to the King.
@@AlexS-oj8qf Money is also the ultimate power...even if the aristocrats dont have money they need support or backing from someone who does...as u say like the King.
Being an actual Bastard evidently. 😄
My late dear friend and co-worker Constance Deighton Simpson who died in 1984 was a friend of the Lygons. The last Earl Beauchamp was Connie's great romance.
How lucky you must be
6:10 or so is the most polite argument I have ever witnessed!
Wow...really polite and snooty 😅 especially when she said "I'm master of this house" that one line ended that lady being stuffy.
I was about to comment on the very same until I saw your comment, here here! In some ways the world isn't quite what it used to be.
@@Mone333Williamsshe said she was master of the hunt*
Behold, the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable. .
Why can't I feel too sorry for these people???
Anyone would think they were the only ones to suffer in the first war............At least they had a social and monetary buffer against the loss of the sole breadwinner in a working class family.
Arrogant old sods who won't admit to being in the wrong even in the face of incontrovertible evidence of needless cruelty to animals.
Ah, the politics of envy....lovely.
@@Pete-z6e the politics of our senseless human addiction to needless violence- enjoy!
@@Pete-z6e Or the virtues of contempt. Depends how you look at it.
Load of idlers
Hot take: we all should have good manners and etiquette, but I'm glad the nobility is a joke now. Their superiority complex is disgusting.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Yes, the bankers have too much power, but so did the aristocracy. At least a person can now scheme and lie their way to the top regardless of the circumstances of their birth...Under aristocratic rule, you have to be born into it, or one of the lucky few who marries into it.
That's actually even worse as that guarantees that the one at the top is a cunning and evil person.
@@freedomwatch3991 Being good at scheming and playing the game doesn't mean that someone is evil. Evil is a very specific thing. And you do have people who are smart and talented and know how to be strategic to get to the top...It's not all about being evil. That said, right now there are also many different levels of wealth and high society and improving one's station in life. It's not always being at the very top.
They are boring me after five minutes. Thank God these people have gone.
6.37 is not Edward Prince of Wales but Albert Duke of York, followed closely by his brother, Duke of Glouchester.
Interesting that the Marchioness of Londonderry could not stand 'bad manners' (10:03) yet was 'a very frightening woman'' (11:44), which is, of course, the height of bad manners.
lol at 5:00 that was the most polite transaction I’d ever heard
Animals. They congratulate themselves to easily.
Veblen's "leisure class" - bred and born for ruling, army, clergy, sports and not for - God forbid - doing any decent work.
Profound ignorance.
Does anyone know who narrated this series?
Samuel West.
Only savages hunt fox.
Fox is cunning but hardly wrth hunting,fox hunt would probably be a social event,to enjoy a good days horse riding with friends, also the dogs would get a good exercise .
Only morons obsess over the life and death of a nuisance animal.
No I am Not trolling sir i am descended from a landed family in India and lost all during the Government issued land reformations in india so i know what i am talking about
horses were bigger than why
Lady Mary and Lady.... are appareled as if they are going to a car boot sale. ;-)
Reckless riding, animal hunts, etc. It seems like bad manners, waste and cruelty are the traits of this group.
This is dìfficult to watch with an open mind.
You should be fine then.
Why do aristocrats always sound constipated?
Ordinary people? What a terrible way to perceive human beings...especially since they bought their titles.
What the hell was the crazy lady on the street doing????
Cruel.
The aristocrats must have their rights. If the commoner oppresses the upper classes that is tyranny of the majority! But neither should they oppress the common man.
+George Severn Why must the aristocrats have their rights? Here in the US we managed quite well without the aristocracy.
+Susan Harris you are dreaming. The US has old money from the 17th cen. and older. The problem are those robber Baron families from the late 19th have ruined the US with all these commoners who have no eye for culture or education.
+Susan Harris HAHAHAHA really? no aristocracy? cover your stupidity American, it embrassess you
+Susan Harris Every country has an aristocracy. The Bushes and Clinton's are yours.
+George Severn True,true and sadly so...They make a poor substitute...
In the interest of cruelty to animals, I thought Fox Hunts & Pigeon Shooting were discontinued.
If our coat of arms was an iceberg with three eggs over it I would want the floor to swallow me up. Thank God that we have a beautiful crest.
and foxhunting is a disgusting past time I have a snobby sister who used to hunt should be ashamed of herself
What a twisted, long-running soap opera! A hardworking refrigerated meat packer buys his baronetage, and therefore "corrupts" polite society. Now, as the 3rd generation, his elderly grandson is laundered white enough to be one of the Queen's pets (Master of the Horse / KCVO, etc.), and is therefore firmly "accepted".
Grapes are mere berries until they age in the cask. Eventually, they become a fine bottle of wine with a fancy label and price - enjoyed after quietly sitting still and doing very little over many years.
The hypocrisy of this series is both thick & remarkable - and terribly fascinating. Everyone's in on the joke - be it for a thousand years of pedigrees, or just three generations of noble descent from a (dare I say it?) hard-working meat packer.
Yet everyone else plays along: kow-tows, collects royal souvenir china tea cups, and flocks to tour the great houses - especially if the tour guide is an unlucky & indigent noble and can be seen and possibly asked a question.
Hooray, Hyacinth Bucket ! Er, BooKAY - Lady of the house...
A cruel sport...
Scott disik paid for his title also
The math doesn't add up. How could they only be in their 80's? Even if 89, it means born in 1908, and there's no way the two girls pictured in 1919 are anywhere remotely near the age of 11, far closer to 20 by the looks of them.
I have to admit: I have no sympathy whatsoever for the aristocracy. They have outlived their usefulness and abused their privileges.
they enjoyed their lives good for them
They were the biggest employers, you don’t have to sympathise with them, instead sympathise for all those people who’s jobs disappeared.
Aristocracy will never die out per se. It will just morph into something different and ' current'. There will always be the haves and have nots
are these sister ladies still alive?
Definitely not
Are you still alive??
No lol
I feel sorry for the fox.
Mary Hollingsworth I feel very sorry for so many foxes that had been hounded just for blood lust
Certainly not my idea of a sport. Not a fair fight, for starts.
Mary Hollingsworth
Rhys Hoffman
Agreed. The Fox is Truly my favorite wild animal.
One must fantasize of the "tight-arse' Brits" getting their just in the hereafter, being met at the gate by a Black Woman with an Irish accent, carrying a Fox - and saying, "Come on in, we were short one for the hunt"! And the Fox grins!
Sweet, huh!?!
☘🇺🇸🇮🇪☘
🇮🇪🇮🇪Derry 🇮🇪🇮🇪👍
the fulfords are really funny, but i bet the real aristocrats, are somewhat embarrassed by them!
Foxhunting should be banned
So, the fox has NO predators, in this country!! So how would you keep the fox population healthy, flourishing, but under control???.
I am not sure the so called "commoners" want to know.
Will someone please explain whom the younger woman was with the hunting horn? Was she trying to divert the hunt or somehow interfere with it? Why were the old ladies so upset with her?
+James Claude She's...as she states, a hunt saboteur...there to sabotage the hunt. So yes, she's trying to divert and interfere with the hunt and that's why the old ladies were upset with her.
+shammy dammy Thank you! I had to listen closely to hear that phrase...
Why did she want to sabotage the hunt? I wish I had a transcript for that interaction lol
She was doing the same thing as the Just Stop Oil people are doing now. Imposing their theories physically onto others.
wonderful traditional ways I love it
Hon. Jane Ridley: um.. um... um um.. um um um... um...
Some say that the prevalence of communism in Poland is partly responsible.
The Fox is Truly my favorite wild animal.
*One must fantasize of the "tight-arse' Brits"* *getting their just in the hereafter, being met at the gate by a Black Woman with an Irish accent, carrying a Fox - and saying* :
"Come on in, we were short one for the hunt"!
...... *and the Fox grins!*
Sweet, huh!?!
☘🇺🇸🇮🇪☘
Hunting is a crime...
Obscene practice.
You have possibly the worst name I have ever heard
paractice makes perfect phillip
Cruel rats the lot of them.
British Aristocracy dead?!
What with 2 old etonians running the country and now this from the Observer
[The British public has endured the expenses scandal, a cabinet minister describing police officers as plebs and a labour MP sending alleged snobby tweets about "white van men"
But for sheer chutzpah, the peers of the realm have potentially topped the lot.
It has emerged that a proposal to save tax-payer's money by making peers and MP's share a catering department which was rejected because the Lord's feared the quality of champagne would not be as good if they chose a joint service]
Incredible what priorities some people have no??
You realise there are no aristos left. They are all retired politicos and civil servants
tincoffin Wrong! More than a third of Great Britain today is owned by the Aristocracy. Look up the Duke of Westminster & Buccleuch, Richard Scott & Gerald Grosverner for openers to show how wrong your post is.
John Erskine hmmm
She said saw a large Fox yeah hope it got away poor thing
These ppl have never been poor for 1 day of their lives..talk about filthy rich..second class royalty/princesses.
Hi there Rocky! A belated "Happy New Year" to you. Trusting you get to read my brief message of the experiences over about 10/12 years being in the employment of two different families in the Aristocracy! As you so rightly described being filthy rich!! is an understatement!! Speaking so eloquently as if there is a plum stuck in their mouths or one up the backside? was often of great amusement to myself! It was one hell of both a learning curve and alas and sadly a bad experience! The more work you carried out! the more that was expected!! It was noticed often how it was a THEM! and US! meaning being looked down upon and inadvertently making you feel somewhat an underdog and sub-servient! You could not help but see and hear their greed of position and money!!! particularly where MONEY!!! is concerned. With many hours of extra work and very often going the extra mile and beyond the call of duty and in fairness to be paid the due extra money was paid, but reluctantly!! On one experience with the "Lady" of the household speaking and treating me as if I was a piece of Shit! under her shoe was the last straw until I plucked up the courage and gave her in return a raging verbal hiding of her behaviour and character towards me. Slowly! but surely after that I was able to gain better respect of this tyrant and mutual respect was eventually gained on both sides. How cruel members of the Aristocracy can be has been well known for decades and working for them was a true eye opener! When it came upon my retirement and was asked if I would like to continue working for a while longer? I turned down the offer resulting in causing inconvenience to them, upsetting the applecart and having to put themselves out to find suitable replacement causing resentment to the point that over a certain incident being called a liar after working so hard for so many years! The matter never got resolved and was glad to see it was going to be a great loss to them and none to myself and left the establishment. To finish! I personally would NOT! recommend working for any family in the Aristocracy to anyone for they are so frickin above themselves in all they stand for! I hope I may get a reply from you, it can only be but an interesting one??? Keep well and Keep safe throughout 2022. Kind regards, BJG.
The Arian Stock Race
Hard not to feel SOME sympathy for these silly old toffs, now, more or less, extinct. Thankfully. Their class and generation just never 'got it'. They never gave a toss for the squalor and poverty their compratiots were obliged to endure. They just turned many a blind eye. Ironically, the best monarch Britain only just got, the Duke of Windsor, DID have a social conscience. That was why 'the Establishment' got rid of him. HIMself was a hunter. But there's little coping with minor intelligence and poor education.
DOWN WITH THESE FOOLS.........
Christ! The French had the balls and nouse to get rid of these self entitled vacuous pointless individuals and families. Vive la France
Fox hunting is important in uk heritage also even though the aristocracy were ignorant you have to feel sorry for them and I’m no old sod, I’m 14 years old and studies history
So the officers could have sport 😭😂😂😂 eewwwwww 😫😫vile people
Dreadful sport fox hinting.