Thanks mate. What I would say.....if i owned a 2.7 Cayman I'd be totally happy with it as it is a fine sports car. Pretty much everyone in the Porsche community knows that this is not a Cayman S......theres plenty of tell tale signs that this is a Cayman and not a Cayman S.
The 981 is a superb CRUISING car with more than enough horsepower weighing about 3000 lbs. Mine is a 2014 year, purchased new. The amenities were very expensive. Ie, Just the twin tailpipes were $500. The upgrade stero system is amazing and pdk is incredible. It's a true definition what began in the 1930-s European sports car - 2 seater, excellent handling + braking, economical, but not a convertible. It is anything but a poor man's Porsche. I thought BMW's handle well; however, a Cayman is in a league of its own.
I have the 981. Sport Chrono, PDK, Sport, Sport+, Sport Chassis and Sport exhaust. It's 20mm lower than a STD Cayman. I love this car when you push the Sport+ button and shift with the paddles. The sound when shifting up and down, WOW. The cracling on downshifts and the loud "boom" on upshifts.
The 981 satisfies over 90% of our daily driving needs. Whereas some of those who complain might be just leasing or renting the vehicles they claim ownership to...
i traded in my 2018 m140i for a 718 Cayman... engine note gets slatted, and i agree its no M140i sound track.. but my Cayman handles and feels like nothing else i have owned/driven.. i adore it
Thank you mate. Miles apart from the M140i. M140i is way quicker than this Cayman in this form. But the M140i is a compromised chassis from the standard 1 series whereas this Cayman is built for one purpose without compromising on anything. It handles superbly....
Great review, i've got a 981 Cayman S and love it! I test drove the base and felt it lacked a little power and felt the 3.4 litre in the S solved that! and Sports Exhaust option is a must :)
Lucio Cesaro I’ve not compared side by side so couldn’t say for sure but I remember testing driving the base with sports exhaust and it sound good but not quite as good as the S with it.
I think all Porsches sound a bit flat / just not angry enough when you want them to without PSE. So since there are so many, you should never let anybody talk you in to buying one without.
The engine in a 718 is NOT even closely related to an Audi S3 or Golf R engine. Apart from the fact they both have the same amount of cylinders (in completely different configurations) and a turbo, they have nothing in common.
@@DownShiftThrottle or you could look at it like a 911 engine missing two cylinder, it's all perspective I guess, but it's still not correct to say it's the same as an Audi S3 engine.
It's a capable engine....I actually almost done a deal on a 718 GTS with the 2.5 4 pot.....very impressed but I stuck with my then BMW M4. Now though, I'd consider it.
Thanks. As with all mid engined cars it more difficult to work on them. There's no real bonnet/hood you can just open and see the engine. Most likely you'll have to get under it
Yes because in most modern turbos the torque kicks in around 1700rpm. Obviously in a NA car the torque is progressive hence at low speeds it feels lethargic. As is the case with the E90 V8 M3 v the F80 6 cyl twin turbo M3....and many other cars. The fun factor though of a NA car is unparalleled as you constantly chasing the red line
@@DownShiftThrottle lethargic yes,but initial resposne is a lot faster,then comes lethargic... uasualy NA is more responsive,cause no need to spin the turbo which has own inertial mass,and result is slow responsivness.that's why he was confused and ask to you
My 2016 981 Cayman manual 2.7 redlines at 7600, not 9000 rpm, as stated. Regarding power, I am less interested in street racing off lights than in its manual shifting and its cornering abilities. It is not a track racing car, but the 165 mph top end has proved more than sufficient even on the isolated, long, straight secondary highways and backroads of New Mexico. I would much rathe drive my 981 than my son's 2021 tuned GR Supra which now has about 500 hp and 0-60 in about 3 seconds. Fortunately, he has a 911 to drive also.
Can’t call it a poor man’s Porsche, but a used one is relatively affordable compared to a new sports car. But the maintenance is not that cheap compared to a hot hatch I guess considering the parts are expensive and the access to the engine is not easy. Plus you are spending money on a toy/second car not on a practical car otherwise it’s even more affordable.
Well done with your 100th video... really enjoyed it 👍🏼 keep up the hard work. Can’t wait for the next one & hopefully you would of grown your beard 🧔🏻 by then lol 🥰
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. Will aim to get another vid out next week. Watch this space.....regarding the beard....it will deffo be back. Watch this face too lol!
Its the Boxster that everyone says is a poor mans Porche, who ever says it about the Cayman is just saying it because they don't want it to be compared to the more high end cars they drive, most people in life will never be able to afford a Cayman especially outright. All the car journalists say its the best in it's class, also affordable top level sports cars, value for money is what we all aim for in life. I will get mine in Yellow.
@@DownShiftThrottle Ouch! Having 4 of something is not a "principle". A Boxer engine "boxes", hence the name and which is why it runs very smoothly. A completely different principle.
2m57 "There is no way i can open this up because access is from under the car" Well, clearly you know nothing bout the Cayman. there is a hatch under that carpet, with 5 torque screws to access the engine from the top.
@@DownShiftThrottle of course, it's their car and they can do what they want BUT it stinks of "I'm ashamed to not have this other more expensive version" and that just feels like a shame to me.
I know a Porsche when I see one, this was a Cayman....not a Cayman S and to this day I have no idea why there were Cayman S decals......but why little self confidence?
@@DownShiftThrottle putting a Cayman S badge on a base cayman is basically lying. Same like putting MSc on your job profile, but having ‚only‘ a Bachelor degree
What's the reason you continuously repeat the word "obviously"? It, whatever it is, is not obvious to a good proportion of viewers, particularly those who are new to this model.
All I can say is it was the owners choice to display the Cayman S decals etc. We all know it's a Cayman 2.7 because theres plenty of tell tale signs it's a 2.7. Hence why I did not mention in the vid it being a S
DownShift Throttle yeah once you get going I suppose it’s good but I live in nyc and even in a low gear, overtaking takes forever. I have a 718 now and it’s way easier to move around
Good video mate 👍. Shame about the fake Cayman S badges 😂
Thanks mate. What I would say.....if i owned a 2.7 Cayman I'd be totally happy with it as it is a fine sports car. Pretty much everyone in the Porsche community knows that this is not a Cayman S......theres plenty of tell tale signs that this is a Cayman and not a Cayman S.
Hmmm...the badges per se are not as they stand, fake, rather they misrepresent the car to which they are attached.
The 981 is a superb CRUISING car with more than enough horsepower weighing about 3000 lbs. Mine is a 2014 year, purchased new. The amenities were very expensive. Ie, Just the twin tailpipes were $500. The upgrade stero system is amazing and pdk is incredible. It's a true definition what began in the 1930-s European sports car - 2 seater, excellent handling + braking, economical, but not a convertible. It is anything but a poor man's Porsche. I thought BMW's handle well; however, a Cayman is in a league of its own.
I have the 981. Sport Chrono, PDK, Sport, Sport+, Sport Chassis and Sport exhaust. It's 20mm lower than a STD Cayman. I love this car when you push the Sport+ button and shift with the paddles. The sound when shifting up and down, WOW. The cracling on downshifts and the loud "boom" on upshifts.
How's she holding up
@@crouchingtiger5431 I stil got it, and i enjoy it in summertime. Easy the best Porsche i ever had, Even better than my old aircooled 930
Did you have the Chrono installed after? I was told they can't actually install a Chrono in my 981 lol
The 981 satisfies over 90% of our daily driving needs. Whereas some of those who complain might be just leasing or renting the vehicles they claim ownership to...
Why does it say Cayman S on the side if it's the 2.7?
Lol the owners choice.....might aswell have a GT4 badge on it
The 2.7 is perfect for UK roads don't need any more than this.
I just bought a 2016 cayman with PDK 20 inch rims with a few extras and love it! Thanks for the video good job!
Just bought one, absolutely amazing!
Hopefully you bought a real S
Your friend has impeccable taste .even the new gt4 doesn't sound as good as the 981 version. Thanks for posting.
Welcome mate!
first time watching your review and now you have earned a new subs cuz I like it
Spot on review. Either people understand what you are telling them or it goes over their head. On a back road you never need more power thank this.
I’ve owned 14 Porsches, including five 911s, a bunch of 944s, and three Caymans. the mid engined cars are hands down the best to drive.
This is the kind of Cayman I'd consider in buying, very nice. Love the colour combination, wheels, and the PDK.
Just don't put on the fake badges lol
Where can I get the PORSCHE lettering for the center console??
Great video - Subscribed!
Thank you!
i traded in my 2018 m140i for a 718 Cayman... engine note gets slatted, and i agree its no M140i sound track.. but my Cayman handles and feels like nothing else i have owned/driven.. i adore it
Totally understand where you coming from!
I agree 100%, I own a 2014 Cayman, well worth the money, great car
718 yaghh 4cyl.
Well done reaching 100 videos Mo! Great content as usual, lovely car.
Thank you Ronnie for your continued support, comments and views. Hugely appreciated. This car though it is very modern it felt almost old school!
@@DownShiftThrottle My pleasure mate, love your work. Keep going to 200! 👍
Will do....thanks again!
Base Porsche is better than no Porsche, unless it’s a Macan lol
2009 Manual 2.9 987.2 here - Love the car to bits.. Does not need massive BHP.
Right on point.....its the only car I've driven in a long time that can make good use of its power in tap!
I have heard the 987 have engine issues??
@@chronicmachines6717I heard the 2.9 is extremely robust!
Top Vlog mate.
Thanks Jase....glad you enjoyed it.
Con grats on your 100th vid pal, wondered when you had got to. Love the Porsche it looks stunning in red, but how do they compare to the M140?
Thank you mate. Miles apart from the M140i. M140i is way quicker than this Cayman in this form. But the M140i is a compromised chassis from the standard 1 series whereas this Cayman is built for one purpose without compromising on anything. It handles superbly....
Great review, i've got a 981 Cayman S and love it! I test drove the base and felt it lacked a little power and felt the 3.4 litre in the S solved that! and Sports Exhaust option is a must :)
Yup....the 2.7 has decent power but the 3.4 S is the sweet spot!
In your opinion 981 S and 981 base have the same exhaust sound with PSE both?
Lucio Cesaro I’ve not compared side by side so couldn’t say for sure but I remember testing driving the base with sports exhaust and it sound good but not quite as good as the S with it.
I think all Porsches sound a bit flat / just not angry enough when you want them to without PSE. So since there are so many, you should never let anybody talk you in to buying one without.
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Poor man’s Porsche is a ridiculous term. I don’t know too many poor men that can afford to buy and maintain a $100,000 car.
This one looks beautiful 🚘
Super duper car!!!
What is a better choice a base 2014 cayman or a 2007 Porsche carerra s 911 both are around the same price?
I'd buy the 911
I’d buy the Cayman 🏎
Hi, great video. I'm thinking of getting one of these, do you think its important to have the sport chrono package on it ?
I would definitely have the sport chrono package. Makes the car complete
i don't have it on mine and its not a big thing IMO, PSE (sports exhaust) is way better option to have!
How much does it cost to have that?
@@Super-Super-Man in the UK i've heard from a dealer its approx £2k installed. My car was optioned with it
Sport chrono and sports exhaust are both important. I have neither on my 2.7c . I am going for a tune plus manifolds to compensate for not having them
The engine in a 718 is NOT even closely related to an Audi S3 or Golf R engine. Apart from the fact they both have the same amount of cylinders (in completely different configurations) and a turbo, they have nothing in common.
Ah yes youre right. It's a boxer engine. Like a Subaru from the 90s 😂
@@DownShiftThrottle or you could look at it like a 911 engine missing two cylinder, it's all perspective I guess, but it's still not correct to say it's the same as an Audi S3 engine.
It's a capable engine....I actually almost done a deal on a 718 GTS with the 2.5 4 pot.....very impressed but I stuck with my then BMW M4. Now though, I'd consider it.
@@homiefizzle5260 "Perspective", usually gets in the way of the facts...if you allow them to.
Is the steering wheel center marker an add on?
Do you have an aftermarket exhaust on it?
Yes giving it the "Cayman S" look
Great video 👍 Number plates illegal though 🥴😅
Thanks.....yep, number plates are but not my problem hahaha
Great review!! I am planning to get a 981 2.7, I did want to ask you is it more to work on being mid engine? thx...
Thanks. As with all mid engined cars it more difficult to work on them. There's no real bonnet/hood you can just open and see the engine. Most likely you'll have to get under it
How fast do you need to be going to even rev it out? Seems like too much honestly
I got one and I lose EVERY race on the street lol. Nothing like the sound of that 2.7 straight piped though.
Get a 718 and start winning
Ive had 10 911s and my Base 2.7 is by far the best.
I agree. In some ways I prefer my 2.7 to my 997TT
So you're saying that the NA feels less responsive than a turbo
Yes because in most modern turbos the torque kicks in around 1700rpm. Obviously in a NA car the torque is progressive hence at low speeds it feels lethargic. As is the case with the E90 V8 M3 v the F80 6 cyl twin turbo M3....and many other cars. The fun factor though of a NA car is unparalleled as you constantly chasing the red line
@@DownShiftThrottle wrong word used.Actually NA is more responsive(faster response) but weaker in low RPM
Isn't that what I'm saying....low revs = lethargic.....progressive torque as revs climb.
@@DownShiftThrottle lethargic yes,but initial resposne is a lot faster,then comes lethargic... uasualy NA is more responsive,cause no need to spin the turbo which has own inertial mass,and result is slow responsivness.that's why he was confused and ask to you
Yea but if the response is faster but its lethargic, by that point a turbo car has spooled up and gone......
My 2016 981 Cayman manual 2.7 redlines at 7600, not 9000 rpm, as stated. Regarding power, I am less interested in street racing off lights than in its manual shifting and its cornering abilities. It is not a track racing car, but the 165 mph top end has proved more than sufficient even on the isolated, long, straight secondary highways and backroads of New Mexico. I would much rathe drive my 981 than my son's 2021 tuned GR Supra which now has about 500 hp and 0-60 in about 3 seconds. Fortunately, he has a 911 to drive also.
I’ve one in silver pdk great car one major fault 20” cararra wheels give harsh ride on poor British roads otherwise superb
That's Earlswood. Did you pop in and see the lads at zuffenhaus?
Na mate don't know them lads.....but I've heard some good stuff about their stock!
The 2.0 in the 718 cayman shares absolutely nothing with the Golf r/s3 ea888 inline 4 turbo. Not even the same engine configuration mate.
Cameras really struggle with red, I would have bet good money that this is carmine.
Nope, Guards Red...there is absolutely no similarity between the two. Carmine is a metallic finish.
@@HIOP0 Carmine is not metallic because I have it since 2015 ;) Carmine is one of the extra paint jobs you could have.
Can’t call it a poor man’s Porsche, but a used one is relatively affordable compared to a new sports car. But the maintenance is not that cheap compared to a hot hatch I guess considering the parts are expensive and the access to the engine is not easy. Plus you are spending money on a toy/second car not on a practical car otherwise it’s even more affordable.
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Well done with your 100th video... really enjoyed it 👍🏼 keep up the hard work. Can’t wait for the next one & hopefully you would of grown your beard 🧔🏻 by then lol 🥰
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. Will aim to get another vid out next week. Watch this space.....regarding the beard....it will deffo be back. Watch this face too lol!
Its the Boxster that everyone says is a poor mans Porche, who ever says it about the Cayman is just saying it because they don't want it to be compared to the more high end cars they drive, most people in life will never be able to afford a Cayman especially outright. All the car journalists say its the best in it's class, also affordable top level sports cars, value for money is what we all aim for in life. I will get mine in Yellow.
"Everyone"?
718 engine is not the same engine as in a golf r or s3 :D it is a flat 4 and not a r4
Same principle bro....still a 4 pot
Still a 4 but not a 4pot vw group or bmw or Benz. I was very surprised, for sure porsche would not give you a 4 without their expertise.
@@DownShiftThrottle Ouch! Having 4 of something is not a "principle". A Boxer engine "boxes", hence the name and which is why it runs very smoothly. A completely different principle.
2m57
"There is no way i can open this up because access is from under the car"
Well, clearly you know nothing bout the Cayman.
there is a hatch under that carpet, with 5 torque screws to access the engine from the top.
If only you could lend me a torque screw driver.
Your wrist is your screwing torque driver tool.@@DownShiftThrottle
He doesn't.
I agree....you do not need more speed in the real world......it's too fast
Ugh, fake Cayman S badges and fake yellow brake callipers (which indicates Porsche ceramic discs).
I guess if it makes the owner happy lol
@@DownShiftThrottle of course, it's their car and they can do what they want BUT it stinks of "I'm ashamed to not have this other more expensive version" and that just feels like a shame to me.
I agree
Not even ceramic. He said he had them painted yellow.
The owner is clearly aspirational. In a misguided way.
Definitely needs an exhaust
WHY Yellow calipers and belts in a red car ? o.Ô
Because Cayman S and GTS hybrid lol
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Thank you....👍🏽
One thing is for sure, the owner of this Cayman (not Cayman S) has very little self confidence
I know a Porsche when I see one, this was a Cayman....not a Cayman S and to this day I have no idea why there were Cayman S decals......but why little self confidence?
@@DownShiftThrottle putting a Cayman S badge on a base cayman is basically lying.
Same like putting MSc on your job profile, but having ‚only‘ a Bachelor degree
😭😭😭 brutal but true. I totally get it. Nothing wrong with a base Cayman. Good job I didn't put on a GTS badge on my Macan S lol
What's the reason you continuously repeat the word "obviously"? It, whatever it is, is not obvious to a good proportion of viewers, particularly those who are new to this model.
it says cayman s, so its not the 2.7 base haha
It's a Cayman 2.7 not a 3.4 Cayman S
@@DownShiftThrottle why does it say cayman s on the sides?
All I can say is it was the owners choice to display the Cayman S decals etc. We all know it's a Cayman 2.7 because theres plenty of tell tale signs it's a 2.7. Hence why I did not mention in the vid it being a S
The dash LCD clearly shows it's a Cayman not a Cayman S so he's stuck fake badges on it and faked up the brake callipers as well.
@@capuchinseven and put dual exhaust tips on it to look like an S
Stop faking components- ceramic brakes, wrong model badges
That's directed at the owner....it's a Cayman, not a Cayman S as we know
lmao. i owned one of these with a manual trans. Don’t waste your time. it’s slow as fuck.
Its decent pace.....not as quick as the 3.2/3.4 Cayman S! Even with the Cayman S decals 😂
DownShift Throttle yeah once you get going I suppose it’s good but I live in nyc and even in a low gear, overtaking takes forever. I have a 718 now and it’s way easier to move around
Who can afford to speed??
@@connj67 very fair
Unless you are living in Germany and driving this car on the Autobahn, why do you “speed” when you driving daily on US roads? Doesn’t make sense imo