C.J. Confronts the Vice President | The West Wing
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Season 5 Episode 15: Full Disclosure
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And this is why we love CJ. If only women knew the power they have when they stand up for each other.
yea would be nice if they all stood up for each other when they are told they have to shut up and compete against men pretending to be women.
Unfortunately, to get that much power the women have to lay down first.
I agree with you, I would love to see that statement to be more inclusive to express all of us have that power . Integrity, respect, honesty and self respect are what empowers, unfortunately we ( men and women) don’t use our potential and opportunities .
We are all mothers,fathers, siblings, etc and really need to realize potential .
It is not what we are that holds us back , it is what we think we are not .
Food for thought
@@Grumpy-Curmudgeon #MeToo has made potent strides in slamming down that concept. Although, the backlash to that is males telling females that they've taken this campaign "much" too far, and then attempt to minimize efforts toward change.
@@janetkriegl6720 Interesting though, I was only commenting on the video. For CJ to have the power she used with the VP she first had to have sex with him. (This was all allegedly consensual so the MeToo # would not apply; and of course this is all fictional.)
I immediately thought of "Game--Set--Match" when CJ gave The Vice President "That Look" @ 2:26. She was firm in his office....but that slow walk in the corridor afterwards was almost a surrender of sorts....and really punctuated by the deep sigh as she sat down in the chair! Have a wonderful Weekend Everyone! 👋
Now Thats how you make a sandline people.
Damned i Miss this program.
What a great scene - CJ clearly used her strength to stand up to the VP!
Otter didn't have this many problems with women when he was "studying" pre-law or pre-med at Faber?
Her "strength" was that she had sex with a married man then used this fact to blackmail him.
Hard to believe the Vice President was once the voice of Jonny Quest.
i loved johnny quest
Would ❤ to be your partner in a game Trivia Persuit!
Omg I didn’t know that! I loved that show when I was little!
Eric Stratton, Rush chairman, damn glad to meet you.
Wow! I decided to put on a random WW episode while eating lunch today and it was this one! Same wavelength
Is it weird that I do the exact same thing during my lunch breaks? 😂
2:20 if "try Jesus, but don't try me" was a look! 👀
back in the day when infidelity would disqualify you from office.
Since when????? There has been infidelity involved with people in public office from the get go. Never did it get them disqualified. But it definitely should!
Bill entered the chat LOL
Actually... it was his leaking classified secrets that got him in trouble. You hear CJ... Hoynes is a chronic cheater.
Woah! Love this scene!
CJ was Chief of Staff at this point to.
I think The WW under Aaron Sorkin was better than it was without him.
However, I think he is one of the finest dramatic writers in American television history.
Certainly over the past 20+ years.
John Wells (who took the reigns as show runner when Sorkin left) had gigantic shoes to fill.
And I think - overall - he did a fantastic job.
This scene is a good example of that.
There is one thing I personally like better about TWW post-Sorkin.
He seemed to often like the 1920s/30's movie pacing of rapid fire dialog.
One sentence right after another... almost talking on top of each other.
I - personally - found it not realistic.
Even most brilliant people (with a few exceptions) do not seem to talk like that.
Wells slowed the pacing a bit - like in this scene.
With longer gaps in between dialog.
Though I have no idea if that was deliberate or not.
I think it makes it a little more realistic.
But that is my preference.
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dude seriously you guys gotta get a more somber closing music for the heavier clips. It's like super dramatic scene then BAM Doodley deedley dee deedly dee lol. Just totally annihilates the impact of the clips, knowatimean? :)
I missed a lot of the show and just saw reruns here and there.. is Leo passed away now and she’s chief of staff?? ☹️
I’m not quite sure where this episode is in the arc of the show, but Leo stepped down from COS after his heart attack at Camp David, & the position was given to CJ. Leo stayed on at the White House as an advisor & later ran as Santos’ running mate.
CJ is the best.
Sorry, but every time I see Tim Matheson in WW, I think "Otter came a long way from Faber."
I like to think that when he tells the president he is an alchoholic its a nod to Animal House. "I drank a lot in college"
heh. What hapended to you Johnny? (Quest)
No one puts Doc in the corner
Just asking for context - does anyone know why there's a zombie in the hallway @ 2:56..?
It’s a custodian washing the floor
@@danielchilton5400 lol it totally is, thank you very much
So he hit on her... and that was a crime? Maybe I'm not getting the context here, but...
At the end of the episode she is reflecting on that and she implies that he was a married man at the time. And she swore never to be a girl that sleep with another woman's husband. But apparently Hoynes took a casual like to her. And came on to her with well practiced charm and flirt and seduction. She regret that ever since. A part of her got swept up by the charm. And she went against her morals. As Hoynes is making wind and and Thinks about running. She got a hold of a list of salacious encounters. (I think that is what that list is) and coupled with the scandal that lost him the VP office. CJ realizes he a serial cheater.
And knows he is powerful enough to hurt the lower ppl. The girls that have no platform or high office. So she puts him on notice. Roll with the punches. If the press brings up your old problems. Cuz I will not let you destroy anyone. I will fight for them
@@lionsjourney29 this sort of moral marriage thing is kind of dated. Since the west wing we have had several presidents who have cheated on partners and won the office. Nobody cares as much about cheating in a relationship, certainly not enough to cost them an election or really get much media attention. The most obvious ones are Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, but there are probably other examples.
No, but he knows the voters won't like finding out the extent to which he cheated on his wife, and he would have a political incentive to try discrediting any of the women he's hit on previously in order to keep his own reputation clean. Maybe the voters shouldn't care whether or not a presidential candidate is a slut, who knows? But if he is, the ethical thing to do would be to own up to it. CJ is calling him out because he's already begun the process of trying to brush things under the rug, shift blame to other people, and try to downplay his shortcomings at the expense of other people, which is unfair to them.
It's weird, as early in the series it's never implied they had any history together, but around S5 (after Sorkin left) they decided to write in a backstory that they had an affair before the first campaign. "10 Years ago", CJ wasn't Press Sec then, she wasn't really high profile in the party so it's not clear where / when this could have happened.
@@steverichardson5051 10 years ago is four years before the campaign would have even started, so it may have even predated CJ's PR job in Hollywood. CJ did a lot of work for political causes and NPO's. As a Democratic senator, Hoyne's very plausibly could have connected with her at a fundraiser when she was working with EMILY's List.
This VP looks great compared to what we have now. I would like CJ to confront Harris like that.
Yes because she just looks like she's harassed multiple women right?