26 minutes and 4 seconds of incredible heat and healing. In my adulthood and becoming more sure of myself I needed to hear this conversation in depth! So much to take away with. 🔥
9:30 Men experience every emotion that women do, we just process and display them differently than they do. Let's stop acting like overly emotional men is acceptable. There are a hand full of instances in which a man crying in public is acceptable, funerals, weddings (maybe), and/or unexpected deaths. Outside of these situations, men mostly cry in the dark.
I agree that men are not typically socially allowed to express most emotions, aside from anger. I find this unacceptable and cruel. Men are people who feel shit just like women. It’s internalized patriarchy that’s preventing all of us from being able to express ourselves as human beings, who regardless of sex, feel all emotions equally intensely as the other, and those in between. It’s unfortunate that our generation, and the generations after, must take on the burden and the risk, to counter these antiquated, unrealistic and harmful societal expectations. But it must be done to prevent further damage to the generations of young boys, (and girls,) to come.
@@ashnorton4465the root cause 👍🏾this is why I always say to my only son and my nephews that the human first am, his emotions are valid and to define who they want to be and go for it , it more easy for him to because he grew up with a big village, I always remind him that he has the choice to be the man, he wants ( sorry for my broken English not my language)
It *should* be acceptable. As a matter of fact, it *must* be. Just look at how many crashouts there are because men can't properly process their emotions. Men don't do it "differently," they do it *wrong.*
The only people who don’t allow you to express your emotions are you and your “homies”. That’s a YOU problem and I’m so sick of hearing men say that. It’s the same as blaming “the yt man” for your shortcomings in life as a BM. No one is holding a weapon to your head and telling you not to cry or not to do xyz. You feel that way because you’re emotionally stunted and immature. You’re not in touch with your emotions or you’re too ego driven to express them. So you repeat the sentiment of other men as if it’s law when the problem has always ever been YOU. I know men who are capable of expressing themselves in a healthy way and they do cry in public and other places. Y’all are just toxic and refuse to admit that.
Damn! You managed to articulate what I've been trying to say in such a beautiful way. Such emotional intelligence and intelligence in general from you... viewing all the way from South Africa- great content bro! Really worth an ear from other black men.
I appreciate that so much! It's hella dope that I'm even reaching over there. I hope other Black men get to see it and engage with it in a way that's healthy.
@@marquisedavonproductions _The guy that your talking to who is Mace is a 70 years old and he worshipped KS. (Kevin Samuels was a liar and hypocrite) He also married a poor WW, chased WW single parents and was very angry at BW because BW didn't want to invest in him; they knew he wouldn't do anyting with his life other than to chase WW and end up with nothing! _*_You can see when a Bro won't amount to anything except BS and games right up front if you pay attention!_*
One fundamental mistake that critics always make, is not realizing that people aren’t “looking up” to KS or repeating after him. KS was simply saying what BM had ALREADY been saying. He even said it himself that everything he talked about he heard in barber shops, lockers rooms and from other men since the time he was a kid.
Again, what he was saying was not held under any critical analysis, but off of emotion. Which means that if you were to truly analyze his speech you would have found many fallacies, so the fact that black men's echo chambers failed at seeing how patriarchy works against you is still lost on you.
@@thegoddessinnercircle You should reread my post and think about what i said. Again, KS was just relaying what he heard from BM his entire life. From barber shops to his wealthy clients. Noones "repeating" or echoing him. And he spoke based on facts and statistics that are readily available.
@@thegoddessinnercircle There’s a difference between demonize and criticize. And for you to say he lied to men again shows that you still don’t understand what’s going on. Again, he was repeating what men ALREADY thought and felt about modern women and relationships. For example, if your favorite color is blue, and I tell the world that you like blue, am I lying to everyone? Am I starting a color war? Am I teaching you to like that color? No right? I’m just relaying to everyone else what you’ve already told me in private. Your issue is that you think KS was some kind of leader or influencer, but that’s only the case to ppl that didn’t understand the male perspective. To them he was a teacher. But to the rest of us he was more of spokesperson. You probably still won’t get it though because you’re in your feelings.
@@ITech2005 bruh... I was about to respond to her comment. But you so thoroughly articulated your retort, there's no need for me to respond. Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.
Kevin Samuel is what we needed like it or not..just because you dont like the way he express himself doesn't make him the bad guy and understand we only put limits ourselves and you are too sensitive too see the facts and he never said you have to be a high value man
Yes, he did! KS told young bm that if they’re not educated making 6 figure you don’t deserve a Gorgeous woman. You stay within your status. Men are the Providers and Women are the nesters. 🙄
Great content… and understandable points, but not quite… MEN have to have to be MEN, PERIOD. DO HARD STUFF, CARE FOR OTHERS, BE IN TOUCH WITH YOURSELF, PROVIDE FOR YOUR FAMILY… that “WIERD middle space” is unfortunately, WEAKNESS
Do hard stuff?? Men CARE for others? Most men are in touch with themselves??? What characteristics are associated with being a "Man"? You're prepared to stop that rare robber that comes into your home almost never right?? And you make money.... The hard stuff is everyone in the home expecting the mother to remember everyone's needs everys day. Someone needs a knee brace, you want stake tonight, one child field trip money is due, another child has a Dr appointment. 365 days a year. But y'all dismiss this labor but can't do it themselves....
Saying alot of words, some makes sense and some has nothing to do with anything. I'm not KS fan. People needs to have their own sense of success and value, and to work on their own emotional intelligence and maturity, as well as discernment. KS made a lot of sense and brought alot of attention to things that affects us men, modern women, and society on a whole. I don't follow his HVM narrative because it only focuses on material and status, and not spiritual and the intangible qualities that each individual possesses. The problem is, KS is not the issue. Its society and the masses that desires to not feel challenged and discomfort because they want life to be like a fantasy where no consequences or accountability is required, and anyone that goes against reality/life should be cancelled.
My issue is this need to distinguish the term “modern women.” They are just women. Why don’t we say “modern men”? We are all living in this current era, and the cultural flows of this era define it for all of us. To say “modern women” (which first of all, has a certain Undertone to it” but to not say “modern men” really strikes at the heart of a lot of what was wrong with KS rhetoric.
@@misstessasims3850 - Kevin Samuels was a bust life Gen X'er who was on his last leg and needed to make money somehow. Kevin got kicked out of the Fragrance Community for being a fraud back in 2015 and eventually ran across what eventually became the Manosphere back in 2016. He listened long enough to realize the men within the sphere lacked any real world lived experience, and knew they were gullible to anything and attempted to exploit them. Once it was determined there was no money to be made off of them via one-on-one consultations and his "image consulting", he switched his focus onto the women. The first trap was getting the women to come to his channel by telling them he was going to share with them what High Value Men thought, and the kind of women they were attracted to. The second trap was to then allow the women to call in, and determine if they had what it took to land a High Value Man. The final trap, which to tell every woman who called in that they did not have the goods to land a High Value Man, which he knew would cause more women to call in to prove to him that they had what it took, which eventually led to his path crossing with "Ms. Average at Best", and the interaction went viral. And this so-called "message" you all keep referring to, was being done by a man who the night of his interaction with "Ms. Average at Best" was being hosted in the corner of his rented room in Atlanta as a boarder. All the high value man talk, the fluff, telling the males if they weren't earning $130k or more, then they were behind in life, was being spoken by a man with an oil leaking BMW, nor could afford his own apartment. The stuff Kevin pandered to the public, are the things men learned by the time they were in their mid-30's as they had interactions with women. Kevin, via what eventually became the Black Manosphere, was many men, notably Black men, don't have many interactions with women, can be told/can be sold anything while not having the life experience to know if it's legit, there are levels and grey areas to remain away of, or if it's a bunch of bull.
Ive watched a fair amount of KS content before he passed. I wanna say i watched about 20 of his vids from start to finish during the pandemic. Im the first to say I don't agree with every message that he pushes forth. However i think his tone, and "breaking people down" is necessary because of the gray area brought up in the vid. When you have a nebulous concept of the definition of a word (i.e. everyone having thier own truth) theres no universal or prototypical blueprint to follow in order to replicate success- whatever that may be. So the breaking down part IMO is necessary to reshape a person who maybe hasn't grown in a way thats helpful to their families and communities around them.
This is an argument that I’ve heard a lot. I’m not always sure if this is the best way when there’s not a healthy rebuilding that can occur. He didn’t actually restore on the backend, so the breakdown doesn’t help. A lot of men can’t do that part on their own and need their community to do so.
@@marquisedavonproductions i wouldn't be quick to say that people weren't helped on the back end. Ive seen comments on other content creators channels leave messages about how he helped them get back on track, and even some that said how they were close to ending themselves. Im not saying that what he does is best for everyone but i do think there's a net positive.
@@chriswilliams2035 and he would be the one to have to restore on the backend, so if a critique will come, it's usually on the person who said the thing to ensure that there's a follow through. And right! Some people can potentially benefit, but does it always have to be said in a way that makes you feel lesser/harmed. I'm not sure if that's the best way.
I think the amount of influence Kevin Samuels had is overestimated. From my observation, he only really spoke to a somewhat narrow demographic of str8 black men. His message isn't for gay black men at all. Finally, I tend to tune out whenever "patriarchy" is brought up in online discussions. Patriarchy doesn't exist in the western world anymore and hasn't existed for at least a generation or two, which is why younger men are doing so badly, especially younger black men. Men are overrepresented in the criminal justice system. Men make up the majority of the homeless. Men die from violent deaths, be it homicide or suicide at greater rates. Men/boys are underperforming in schools especially in college. So I don't see any functioning patriarchal structures in western societies. Gay men don't benefit from patriarchy at all. I agree something must be done to correct the dysfunction Black men have in American society I just don't see patriarchy as the culprit.
Kevin Samuels spoke hard truths in blunt ways. I disagreed with his delivery, but he served truth, piping hot. Telling blk men to spend their twenties and early thirties by working 60+ hours per week in order to improve/succeed, is exactly what we needed to hear.
@@bellabello1126 True, any type of hate can be covert or subtle but when Kevin Samuels spoke harshly to and about men, particularly blk men, regarding how they are under performing or making poor life choices was it considered misandry. Why is it never misandry when he was tough on men? No one accused him of spewing hate against men.
He never lied to black people period, Kevin told the truth in a brutally honest manner. Quit pandering to people's emotions and see things for what they are. 💯
Your first problem is acting like kevin samuels was the first man to say this stuff, hinting at your emotions towards the man, not the message. Kevin's message was nothing new, guys are just finally paying attention now because of the rampant support of anything anti male.
The guys were thinking they were getting some kind of cheat code, but what they were getting was regression. The stuff Kevin spoke were the things men eventually learned via their interactions with women by the time they were in their mid-30's. All the men did was spout the same stuff women, notably Black men were spouting back in the 70's, and notably during the rise of Oprah; they were going to close themselves within a shell and operate in the world solo or be very restrictive when it came to the opposite sex. Meaning, they were living in fear.
So to sum up your video, your basically saying "Kevin Samuels lied to Blk Men because he told them that being things like a 'Protector' and 'Provider' are an important part of Masculinity, but he didn't include Blk Men who live the LGBTQ lifestyle being apart of that definition of Blk Masculinity" Lol. With all due respect brother, nothing you stated in your video disproved anything he said. And I actually took the time to listen to everything you had to say. Nice set up though.
The lie was his display of what masculinity was his idea of masculinity and the “high value man.” Black men are limited in our emotional capacity and experience, because we’re expected to simply provide and work. We miss out on relationship because our masculinity or value is only tied to economics and status, but we aren’t sure what our worth is, because we’re not emotionally mature enough as a collective.
Protecting and providing can still be part of that definition, but I think he could have expanded that idea, so it could actually be more gentle towards straight Black men. I appreciate your perspective though. 💪🏾
@@marquisedavonproductions- but studies have shown that most black women are actually the breadwinners in their households. Studies have also shown that middle class bm were only able to reach that status with the help of their wives and at the other end of the scale, every Section 8 house has a man sitting inside. So this actually cuts across all social strata.
In the blk community, we raise our daughters but coddle our sons. Blk women have and are raising the blk men they are complaining about. Boys require the presence and guidance of their fathers, especially after age 7, but most blk boys don't have positive male role models to pattern after. Kevin was more than a nice suit and some colone/fragrance recommendations.
You here making up things to get views. You don't even have a 1000 subs. You never speak up when he was alive. Black people again with the same bring down of a next blackmen. The way he talk to people is called effective communication. I think I just teach u something to excel your channel..
I quite literally teach communication, English, and social emotional learning. And I’m primarily a podcaster, so as a newer channel, it’s still growing. I don’t think his communication is the most effective, but I appreciate your opinion.
@@marquisedavonproductions bro u lame create your own impact like he did. If you are to pass off today no one other than family or close friends you speak about on youtube
@@marquisedavonproductions you are disrespectful to the God father. And it's sad because I met him after he died and I learnt so much and still learning as a young man..
@@tawchaaboss7387 then I think that that’s where the hurt comes from too. You have a different relationship to him. Especially if you’re calling him the “Godfather.” - however, I think that your development will continue on and find other iterations of yourself in other men.
We need more of this and less of that. Thanks. For the honest introspection. I am going to have my son listen.
Whew! That means a lot that you want your son to listen. Thank youuuuuuu.
You would be better off advising your son to read Dr. Jordan Peterson's books and listen to Kevin Samuels TH-cam videos.
Nothing honest about this. He’s just feeding the beast even more with tropes
@@dkt4377same ish
Dudes that took KS seriously are virgins that read at a 5th grade level. He was just comedy to me.
26 minutes and 4 seconds of incredible heat and healing. In my adulthood and becoming more sure of myself I needed to hear this conversation in depth! So much to take away with. 🔥
9:30 Men experience every emotion that women do, we just process and display them differently than they do. Let's stop acting like overly emotional men is acceptable. There are a hand full of instances in which a man crying in public is acceptable, funerals, weddings (maybe), and/or unexpected deaths. Outside of these situations, men mostly cry in the dark.
I agree that men are not typically socially allowed to express most emotions, aside from anger. I find this unacceptable and cruel.
Men are people who feel shit just like women. It’s internalized patriarchy that’s preventing all of us from being able to express ourselves as human beings, who regardless of sex, feel all emotions equally intensely as the other, and those in between.
It’s unfortunate that our generation, and the generations after, must take on the burden and the risk, to counter these antiquated, unrealistic and harmful societal expectations.
But it must be done to prevent further damage to the generations of young boys, (and girls,) to come.
@@ashnorton4465 you hit the nail on the head with your statement. So true!
@@ashnorton4465the root cause 👍🏾this is why I always say to my only son and my nephews that the human first am, his emotions are valid and to define who they want to be and go for it , it more easy for him to because he grew up with a big village, I always remind him that he has the choice to be the man, he wants ( sorry for my broken English not my language)
It *should* be acceptable. As a matter of fact, it *must* be. Just look at how many crashouts there are because men can't properly process their emotions. Men don't do it "differently," they do it *wrong.*
The only people who don’t allow you to express your emotions are you and your “homies”. That’s a YOU problem and I’m so sick of hearing men say that. It’s the same as blaming “the yt man” for your shortcomings in life as a BM. No one is holding a weapon to your head and telling you not to cry or not to do xyz. You feel that way because you’re emotionally stunted and immature. You’re not in touch with your emotions or you’re too ego driven to express them. So you repeat the sentiment of other men as if it’s law when the problem has always ever been YOU. I know men who are capable of expressing themselves in a healthy way and they do cry in public and other places. Y’all are just toxic and refuse to admit that.
Damn! You managed to articulate what I've been trying to say in such a beautiful way.
Such emotional intelligence and intelligence in general from you... viewing all the way from South Africa- great content bro! Really worth an ear from other black men.
I appreciate that so much! It's hella dope that I'm even reaching over there. I hope other Black men get to see it and engage with it in a way that's healthy.
@@marquisedavonproductions _The guy that your talking to who is Mace is a 70 years old and he worshipped KS. (Kevin Samuels was a liar and hypocrite) He also married a poor WW, chased WW single parents and was very angry at BW because BW didn't want to invest in him; they knew he wouldn't do anyting with his life other than to chase WW and end up with nothing! _*_You can see when a Bro won't amount to anything except BS and games right up front if you pay attention!_*
This was a lovely video!
One fundamental mistake that critics always make, is not realizing that people aren’t “looking up” to KS or repeating after him. KS was simply saying what BM had ALREADY been saying. He even said it himself that everything he talked about he heard in barber shops, lockers rooms and from other men since the time he was a kid.
Again, what he was saying was not held under any critical analysis, but off of emotion. Which means that if you were to truly analyze his speech you would have found many fallacies, so the fact that black men's echo chambers failed at seeing how patriarchy works against you is still lost on you.
@@thegoddessinnercircle You should reread my post and think about what i said. Again, KS was just relaying what he heard from BM his entire life. From barber shops to his wealthy clients. Noones "repeating" or echoing him. And he spoke based on facts and statistics that are readily available.
@@ITech2005 This Nigga did not speak facts. He demonized men and women. He lied to you men. Yoi can't even see that. This is how lost you men are.
@@thegoddessinnercircle There’s a difference between demonize and criticize. And for you to say he lied to men again shows that you still don’t understand what’s going on. Again, he was repeating what men ALREADY thought and felt about modern women and relationships. For example, if your favorite color is blue, and I tell the world that you like blue, am I lying to everyone? Am I starting a color war? Am I teaching you to like that color? No right? I’m just relaying to everyone else what you’ve already told me in private. Your issue is that you think KS was some kind of leader or influencer, but that’s only the case to ppl that didn’t understand the male perspective. To them he was a teacher. But to the rest of us he was more of spokesperson. You probably still won’t get it though because you’re in your feelings.
@@ITech2005 bruh... I was about to respond to her comment. But you so thoroughly articulated your retort, there's no need for me to respond. Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.
Kevin Samuels wasn’t perfect but he spoke 100% truth
Thanks for sharing your experience! ❤️ and giving us more insight as always.
Thank you! I appreciate the honesty and your overall realism of opinion. Subbed
I’m here for this
Heard the intro and immediately subbed.
lmaoooo! That's the tagline!
Kevin Samuel is what we needed like it or not..just because you dont like the way he express himself doesn't make him the bad guy and understand we only put limits ourselves and you are too sensitive too see the facts and he never said you have to be a high value man
Yes, he did! KS told young bm that if they’re not educated making 6 figure you don’t deserve a Gorgeous woman. You stay within your status. Men are the Providers and Women are the nesters. 🙄
One thing about God he always get tge final say so
Great perspectives with honesty and insight. Ty! Just subbed...
YT working in my favor, new subbie. Great content 🙏🏾
Great perspective brotha
😊0k. This dude is rambling! When is he going to talk about Kevin Samuels?
That intro lol
I cannot say enough how much I Appreciate this perspective coming from You. Thank you, I appreciate you!
How do know when someone has little personal experience in dealing with MW????
Great content… and understandable points, but not quite… MEN have to have to be MEN, PERIOD. DO HARD STUFF, CARE FOR OTHERS, BE IN TOUCH WITH YOURSELF, PROVIDE FOR YOUR FAMILY… that “WIERD middle space” is unfortunately, WEAKNESS
Do hard stuff?? Men CARE for others? Most men are in touch with themselves??? What characteristics are associated with being a "Man"? You're prepared to stop that rare robber that comes into your home almost never right?? And you make money.... The hard stuff is everyone in the home expecting the mother to remember everyone's needs everys day. Someone needs a knee brace, you want stake tonight, one child field trip money is due, another child has a Dr appointment. 365 days a year. But y'all dismiss this labor but can't do it themselves....
You're so close to getting it. Keep going 🙏🏽
Saying alot of words, some makes sense and some has nothing to do with anything.
I'm not KS fan. People needs to have their own sense of success and value, and to work on their own emotional intelligence and maturity, as well as discernment.
KS made a lot of sense and brought alot of attention to things that affects us men, modern women, and society on a whole.
I don't follow his HVM narrative because it only focuses on material and status, and not spiritual and the intangible qualities that each individual possesses.
The problem is, KS is not the issue. Its society and the masses that desires to not feel challenged and discomfort because they want life to be like a fantasy where no consequences or accountability is required, and anyone that goes against reality/life should be cancelled.
It’s deal with the same problem as us sometimes his message were true but the delivery was harmful to the collective
My issue is this need to distinguish the term “modern women.” They are just women. Why don’t we say “modern men”? We are all living in this current era, and the cultural flows of this era define it for all of us. To say “modern women” (which first of all, has a certain Undertone to it” but to not say “modern men” really strikes at the heart of a lot of what was wrong with KS rhetoric.
@@misstessasims3850 -
Kevin Samuels was a bust life Gen X'er who was on his last leg and needed to make money somehow. Kevin got kicked out of the Fragrance Community for being a fraud back in 2015 and eventually ran across what eventually became the Manosphere back in 2016. He listened long enough to realize the men within the sphere lacked any real world lived experience, and knew they were gullible to anything and attempted to exploit them.
Once it was determined there was no money to be made off of them via one-on-one consultations and his "image consulting", he switched his focus onto the women.
The first trap was getting the women to come to his channel by telling them he was going to share with them what High Value Men thought, and the kind of women they were attracted to. The second trap was to then allow the women to call in, and determine if they had what it took to land a High Value Man. The final trap, which to tell every woman who called in that they did not have the goods to land a High Value Man, which he knew would cause more women to call in to prove to him that they had what it took, which eventually led to his path crossing with "Ms. Average at Best", and the interaction went viral.
And this so-called "message" you all keep referring to, was being done by a man who the night of his interaction with "Ms. Average at Best" was being hosted in the corner of his rented room in Atlanta as a boarder.
All the high value man talk, the fluff, telling the males if they weren't earning $130k or more, then they were behind in life, was being spoken by a man with an oil leaking BMW, nor could afford his own apartment.
The stuff Kevin pandered to the public, are the things men learned by the time they were in their mid-30's as they had interactions with women. Kevin, via what eventually became the Black Manosphere, was many men, notably Black men, don't have many interactions with women, can be told/can be sold anything while not having the life experience to know if it's legit, there are levels and grey areas to remain away of, or if it's a bunch of bull.
Ive watched a fair amount of KS content before he passed. I wanna say i watched about 20 of his vids from start to finish during the pandemic. Im the first to say I don't agree with every message that he pushes forth. However i think his tone, and "breaking people down" is necessary because of the gray area brought up in the vid. When you have a nebulous concept of the definition of a word (i.e. everyone having thier own truth) theres no universal or prototypical blueprint to follow in order to replicate success- whatever that may be. So the breaking down part IMO is necessary to reshape a person who maybe hasn't grown in a way thats helpful to their families and communities around them.
This is an argument that I’ve heard a lot. I’m not always sure if this is the best way when there’s not a healthy rebuilding that can occur. He didn’t actually restore on the backend, so the breakdown doesn’t help. A lot of men can’t do that part on their own and need their community to do so.
@@marquisedavonproductions i wouldn't be quick to say that people weren't helped on the back end. Ive seen comments on other content creators channels leave messages about how he helped them get back on track, and even some that said how they were close to ending themselves. Im not saying that what he does is best for everyone but i do think there's a net positive.
@@chriswilliams2035 and he would be the one to have to restore on the backend, so if a critique will come, it's usually on the person who said the thing to ensure that there's a follow through. And right! Some people can potentially benefit, but does it always have to be said in a way that makes you feel lesser/harmed. I'm not sure if that's the best way.
@@marquisedavonproductions I wish more people understood this !
I think the amount of influence Kevin Samuels had is overestimated. From my observation, he only really spoke to a somewhat narrow demographic of str8 black men. His message isn't for gay black men at all. Finally, I tend to tune out whenever "patriarchy" is brought up in online discussions. Patriarchy doesn't exist in the western world anymore and hasn't existed for at least a generation or two, which is why younger men are doing so badly, especially younger black men. Men are overrepresented in the criminal justice system. Men make up the majority of the homeless. Men die from violent deaths, be it homicide or suicide at greater rates. Men/boys are underperforming in schools especially in college. So I don't see any functioning patriarchal structures in western societies. Gay men don't benefit from patriarchy at all. I agree something must be done to correct the dysfunction Black men have in American society I just don't see patriarchy as the culprit.
Word salad.
😂of course it is
Tell us you're slow without telling us. 😂
Kevin Samuels spoke hard truths in blunt ways. I disagreed with his delivery, but he served truth, piping hot. Telling blk men to spend their twenties and early thirties by working 60+ hours per week in order to improve/succeed, is exactly what we needed to hear.
And as per usual you were happy to overlook the misogyny
@@bellabello1126 Misogyny implies he hated women. That was not the case.
@@dkt4377 I would disagree. Racism doesn’t always look like blatant hatred either
@@bellabello1126 True, any type of hate can be covert or subtle but when Kevin Samuels spoke harshly to and about men, particularly blk men, regarding how they are under performing or making poor life choices was it considered misandry. Why is it never misandry when he was tough on men? No one accused him of spewing hate against men.
@@dkt4377 BM were told their value was increased through accomplishments. Women were told is was based on youth. Not the same thing at all
I turned after that long sigh in the beginning. I couldn’t take him serious as a man after that.
He never lied to black people period, Kevin told the truth in a brutally honest manner. Quit pandering to people's emotions and see things for what they are. 💯
What in the Derrick Jaxn is going on here???
I said the same thing.
Thank you for this. Kevin Samuels was a REAL ONE. Haven't watched this whole video yet
My Bro Marquise ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💯💯💯💯
My guyyyy! I appreciate you holding it down! Lemme know your thoughts on the video!
I guarantee you Marquise does not have a sound knowledge base of history. Looks like he's voicing opinions for a narrow viewpoint
Bro, 4 minutes in and I see this as bullshit. Haven't said one concrete thing. ✌🏽
He obviously had no father
Your first problem is acting like kevin samuels was the first man to say this stuff, hinting at your emotions towards the man, not the message. Kevin's message was nothing new, guys are just finally paying attention now because of the rampant support of anything anti male.
The guys were thinking they were getting some kind of cheat code, but what they were getting was regression. The stuff Kevin spoke were the things men eventually learned via their interactions with women by the time they were in their mid-30's.
All the men did was spout the same stuff women, notably Black men were spouting back in the 70's, and notably during the rise of Oprah; they were going to close themselves within a shell and operate in the world solo or be very restrictive when it came to the opposite sex. Meaning, they were living in fear.
So to sum up your video, your basically saying "Kevin Samuels lied to Blk Men because he told them that being things like a 'Protector' and 'Provider' are an important part of Masculinity, but he didn't include Blk Men who live the LGBTQ lifestyle being apart of that definition of Blk Masculinity" Lol. With all due respect brother, nothing you stated in your video disproved anything he said. And I actually took the time to listen to everything you had to say. Nice set up though.
The lie was his display of what masculinity was his idea of masculinity and the “high value man.” Black men are limited in our emotional capacity and experience, because we’re expected to simply provide and work. We miss out on relationship because our masculinity or value is only tied to economics and status, but we aren’t sure what our worth is, because we’re not emotionally mature enough as a collective.
Protecting and providing can still be part of that definition, but I think he could have expanded that idea, so it could actually be more gentle towards straight Black men. I appreciate your perspective though. 💪🏾
@@marquisedavonproductions Well said. KS was caught up in old school masculinity which doesn't value the whole man nor the whole woman.
@@marquisedavonproductions- but studies have shown that most black women are actually the breadwinners in their households.
Studies have also shown that middle class bm were only able to reach that status with the help of their wives and at the other end of the scale, every Section 8 house has a man sitting inside. So this actually cuts across all social strata.
@@marquisedavonproductionshis original content appears to have been better. But it wasn't making him money so he switched.
In the blk community, we raise our daughters but coddle our sons. Blk women have and are raising the blk men they are complaining about. Boys require the presence and guidance of their fathers, especially after age 7, but most blk boys don't have positive male role models to pattern after. Kevin was more than a nice suit and some colone/fragrance recommendations.
Why aren't fathers raising the sons in your community? Do they just spurt and leave?
Not much more!
Where are the fathers? Why are the black men abandoning their children?
You here making up things to get views.
You don't even have a 1000 subs. You never speak up when he was alive. Black people again with the same bring down of a next blackmen. The way he talk to people is called effective communication. I think I just teach u something to excel your channel..
I quite literally teach communication, English, and social emotional learning. And I’m primarily a podcaster, so as a newer channel, it’s still growing. I don’t think his communication is the most effective, but I appreciate your opinion.
@@marquisedavonproductions bro u lame create your own impact like he did. If you are to pass off today no one other than family or close friends you speak about on youtube
@@tawchaaboss7387 awww man. That was a bit mean. But I hope that your day gets better.
@@marquisedavonproductions you are disrespectful to the God father. And it's sad because I met him after he died and I learnt so much and still learning as a young man..
@@tawchaaboss7387 then I think that that’s where the hurt comes from too. You have a different relationship to him. Especially if you’re calling him the “Godfather.” - however, I think that your development will continue on and find other iterations of yourself in other men.