“Cinematic pyramid scheme” is fucking *beautiful,* Dan. As always, you’ve put into words a nebulous cinematic annoyance that’s been itching at my brain for years now without a way to describe it.
It's so freaking accurate. A lot of the time these earlier parts are just a tease for the "real movie". They don't feel like a complete movie, they're just setups for later films that may or may not be made. 😂
Nah jts not gonna stop it’s gonna keep going and going people love it. And they won’t stop loving it cuz how amazing it is. If you don’t like action then why watch it in the first place. Tell what horrible movies you watched. I’m sure they are more trash than your own opinion
Question, why are you cheering for it? What did he do to you personally? What about the people that actually like his work? With your permission, can we keep liking his work? Why don’t you lames just fkn focus on what you guys like? Why are you lames cheering and hopeing for the man’s failure? I swear you guys are fkn weird! I’m whiling to bet you were the loner kid that sat by himself in lunch during high school and got punked! Yall are straight weird
I enjoyed Sucker Punch, while I'm sure that it has plenty of critics and plot holes, as well as 300, though Sucker Punch more for girls with clothes, rather than mostly nude barbarian's butchering historic moments. Sigh. I have seen critics rip apart Rebel Moon for copying Star Wars and Seven Samurai etc. I think Zack sadly has run his course and though I am saddened by the loss of his daughter, I don't think he should be given more money for this series of films. Despite being a Rebel of a director. Even I can write cringe dialogue better than Hellyweird :P
The most baffling thing about Zack Snyder to me is the perception that he is a brilliant visual filmmaker. It seems like even people that make fun of his films always say things along the lines of, "He's a bad writer, but his movies are gorgeous. If he simply collaborated with different writers, he'd make great movies!" I know art is all subjective, but I'm not even a fan of him stylistically/aesthetically.
RM aesthetic.. don't think has a clear focus? Is it supposed to be space Rome? Sometimes it felt like mish-mash of other stuff like Warhammer that I'm not quite sure which is its originality.
Watchmen was good looking, but soulless. His Justice League was good looking if bit long. He has a good handle on visual effects. The problem is that he is style over substance.
I actually think that his visual style is fine; even Sucker Punch looks great, but he’s bad when it comes to story. Out of his own stories, Army of the Dead (or whatever the name was) is the best. And this movie also has logical flaws like there’s no tomorrow.
the dude is overly dramatic and lacks subtlety.... Slowmo when it absolutly makes no sense and dialogue that any random dude on the streets could make better. I dont know when people starting thinking snyder was a good movie maker.
@shadowmoon2886 space ships are fighting for 1,000 dollars worth of wheat. Does the mighty empire need to build a modest bakery? They should have invaded a Costco. There would have been more food
The difference with Alita is that us, the fans, still want to watch the rest of it. Actually I dare say that a good portion of non fans who watched it and liked Alita as a character would watch a second movie. Because in spite of its mistakes, Alita was a character done right by the actor and she was entertaining to look at. I didn’t care about seeing the rest of Rebel Moon. Couldn’t even finish the first one.
With Alita there was at least the excuse that if viewers wanted more, they had the option to read the comic books. An inadequate excuse imo, but Rebel Moon has no excuse whatsoever. Snyder apparently hasn't even finished the third screenplay yet! 🤦
I'm not a manga guy but even I care about Alita and it's world building more than basically anything happened in Rebel Moon. Then again, comparing a duo collaboration of James Cameron and Robert Rodriguez with Zack Snyder is such a huge stretch
Dan rants are amazing but I don't think even he can top kermode's sex and the city 2 rant! Here's hoping for a classic kermodian rant for this one. He seems to have mellowed a bit and doesn't rant as much anymore
@@inigomontoya7115 -- Mark's rants are incredible because they're always inspired by his incredible love of cinema. He recognizes that Snyder has the passion for film, but he knows he lacks what it really takes to make good films. Snyder lacks the emotional depth, but he has the skill pull off beautiful images. I think once he acknowledged this, he began to go a bit easier on him. He still trashes his movies, because they're awful films, but he's gentler about it.
I just love how Snyder just decided to fit in some exposition dumps about his characters and universe when he had a two-hour long movie to do exactly that.
I think that what little of Zack Snyder’s recent interview with Joe Rogan confirmed everything I’ve ever thought about him. He’s a failed body builder who happened to go to art school, and then fancied himself as an artist who then bullied himself into a career in film, much to the enjoyment of people who think that body building centric video game trailer directors are good storytellers, and much to the despair of people who actually appreciate and promote the art of film as more than a means to make a poster.
Didnt see that interview but based on this comment, it sounds like Zach Snyder is like if Mac from It's always sunny in Philadelphia somehow became a notable film director.
The age of snyders and bays and bolls needs to end. Why are we fancying these hacks when there is so much unnoticed talent out there. Our spare time, the world, and cinema are too finite to squeeze in so many of these douchebags. They obviously know some kind of secrets to the system that others don’t
I think the snyder haters are just as weird. They find themselves under any Snyder related content they can get their hands on. Both sides are extremely weird
@@ReggieBishop I barely ever see that though I only see Snyder fans on Snyder related content I rarely ever see any Snyder fans going out of their way to comment on things that don't relate to Snyder content. Which makes sense cuz if you love Zack Snyder I guess obviously you'd be in spaces that feature his content but Zack Snyder haters idk man it's they come out of the woodwork to emphasize how much they hate Zack Snyder. Like idk man if you guys hate him so much just don't watch his movies. There is honestly about 10 other movies Ive seen this year worse than rebel moon but I only this level of hate on his movies. I don't even think madam web got as much hate as Snyder gets, people just didn't watch that movie l, which is my sentiment like if you guys dont like rebel moon like just don't watch it, I'm seeing people who haven't seen the movie exclusively coming here just to crap on Snyder 😂😂 idk man all I'm saying is that stuff Is pretty weird bruh
The first one was all over my Netflix main screen they really wanted you to watch it. The 2nd one I've not seen on my main screen once and I've hardly seen any ads for it either. I get the feeling Netflix don't want you to watch it either so they don't have to pay for a 3rd.
They are pushing it at me, I have not and never will watch the first or any other iteration of this franchise. At least Netflix rejected his idea of adapting The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand.
@@TheRealMcCoyAndChipsAhoy There's movies that are made to be watched in the background and now we have movies that are made for speedrun. Hollywood is really shooting themselves in the foot.
I’ve never seen Dan this angry :) when he talked about the grain all I could think about was Ben from Parks and Recs saying “The thing people forget about Rebel Moon is, it’s all about the grain” 😂
Quite impressive that despite all the death & destruction in both movies that Snyder & Team were able to make me feel absolutely nothing for the protagonists, that takes real skill from the auteur!
As incompetent as Lucasfilm is with Star Wars these days, it's a good thing that they rejected Snyder's pitch for Star Wars which was this. It could've gone way worse for the franchise, now that this exists, perhaps I owed the sequel trilogy an apology 😂
I suppose if this is Snyder's Star Wars movie, then we are to believe Luke Skywalker spent the first quarter of the movie farming moisture on his moisture farm. And it seems Snyder believes the grain to be as precious as the spice melange in DUNE. LOL. Hollywood please DO NOT give Snyder any more money! Give it to the show runners of FALLOUT.
The problem is Netflix has money to burn and they will give anybody millions of dollars just to flood their service with content -- no matter whether it's good or notm
Oh, I’m certain the showrunners of ‘Fallout’ will be getting handsomely paid anyway. Also Hollywood, pay attention, ‘Fallout’ is what you get when you actually HIRE writers and pay them their due!
Looking forward to a few years down the line when Zach Snyder won't shut up about his 3 hour cut of the episode of 'Grey's Anatomy' that he just directed.
When Rebel Moon Part One came out, there were a lot of people saying, "Well, withhold judgment. This is just the setup for the real story in Part Two." And there was a lot of excitement for the "Snyder Cut" of Part One (which I notice we never got), because that was supposed to be "the real movie". It seems now that the Rebel Moon movies are just snake oil, where the *next* dose is the one that's supposed to fix what ails you.
I hate the idea of, release a movie, but the movie that I didn’t realize is better and and we need a 4 hour cut for it all to make sense. Make a good movie first.
Actually, they're supposed to be releasing the R-rated Snyder Cuts of *both* movies some day ... which will supposedly add an additional hour to each movie! 😮
I never understood the tactic of waiting to release a "Snyder Cut". it feels like they figure if it has those words in the marketing his fans will eat it up like pigs at a trough but surely most people are aware that he has full control over both cuts. So how does this help? Why release an inferior version that will almost guarantees that less people will watch the next one? It hurts my brain thinking about it.
Regarding the Alita backlash, it is a very odd world that we live in; fan communities are often full of people who hate a given property while reviewers get attacked for not being fans.
Excellent review, Dan, thank you. I've tried twice to make it through the first film but I just can't endure it. I enjoyed your review considerably more.
Alita was awesome. I can see how the ending could have been unsatisfying in a cliché cliff-hanger kind of way, but at least all the immediate plot threads were brought to a satisfying conclusion. Given that it was based on a long-running manga and thus an extensive story with multiple arcs, reaching a conclusion to the first of those arcs is really the best you could have asked for from a motion picture.
If you made a supercut of people talking about grain and actually harvesting grain - between both movies - you'd end up with about 20 minutes. It's like Snyder wanted to make a movie about farming and shoehorned in scifi
Probably disappointed at the low moisture farm content in the original Star Wars. The grain just looks like wheat. There are so many alien-looking grains. Coix lacryma-jobi would have worked.
Dan - thank you for actually being critical. Not a fan of needlessly negative reviews, but i find it refreshing when critics and fans call out the trash that Hollywood puts in front of us. Creativity and story should be encouraged, and reviews like this help push that idea.
Considering all the changes going on at Netflix’s film division right now as a result of the leadership change, the new leadership might win me over if they don’t green light any more Rebel Moon films.
You were a fool, watching Rebel Two: Electric Boogaloo and hoping for such stupid things like interesting characters, or an intriguing plot. _I_ watched it for that hot grain action, and _BOY_ was I not disappointed
Every time I see the title of this film I think it says "The Scaregiver," like it's a cheesy horror movie about a murderous nurse or something (love the review btw. I laughed out loud more than once)
I have to disagree with your review. I think the scene with the grains was actually a pivotal moment in the story. Don't forget that the Noble from the Mother land came to the village specifically for the grains The scen where they were preparing the grains was a very powerful scen. it was showing how the community came together to meet the 5-day deadline. in addition to preparing for battle. The backstories were perfectly timed, giving us a deeper understanding of the characters just when we needed it. I didn't find the pacing slow at all - in fact, I was fully engaged the whole time. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel while searching for Rebel Moon part 3
I see why WB felt a need to interfere, and rightfully so.. it’s their properties. However, there’s no blaming Netflix here, it’s all Snyder. The truth is revealed… as many truths are being revealed this year with high profile people.
This is a really good critique. Something that ruins so many movies for me is when they don’t conclude the story but end on an undeserved cliffhanger and demand a sequel. They don’t earn another film (or a franchise) through making the best movie they can, they insist on it by leaving the story inconclusive. Before streaming and the incredible ease of cinematic access we have today, I think films tried to avoid this because it was too costly a gamble. But it’s becoming a problem now. I like the Stars Wars Sequel Trilogy more than many, but a big criticism of those three films is they all relied on all three being watched to make sense (and with the mid-production ret-cons they scarcely managed that).
"This film won't win any oscars" isn't really an insult, because the Academy NEVER gives oscars to the best action films anyway. John Wick 4, No Time To Die, Logan, Wonder Woman, Winter Soldier ... doesn't matter how great you are, if you're an action film, forget it. The Academy only likes slow, boring films where every character is miserable and nothing interesting happens.
The best thing about rebel moon is that it is so irritating that my fav critics cannot help but rant about it - it inspires pure comedic gold, and for that znack Snyder, I thank you.
Lol "Cinematic Pyramid Scheme" is such a funny term. Very funny review! These last few years have been especially bad for this kind of stuff. Even movies that people loved really pissed me off for doing it, like Across the Spider-Verse and Dune Part 1. That movie wasn't even *called* Part 1 when it first came out. And we *still* don't know whether Spider-Verse 3 is ever gonna exist. And don't even get me started on "Fast X" 😆
Former assassin/special ops #1 most wanted criminal in the galaxy immediately takes off her disguise as she SNEAKS around the enemy ship to blow it up. Former best general of the empire doesn't employ any real strategy for the coming battle except for maybe "yell loud". Sad surviving prince with a Force-like connection with animals does nothing with animals, but at least his hair is pretty. The ONLY character that actually did what we know them to do - and did it well - was the laser sword-wielding lady. And well, she died. The end.
I also hate this trend of making every movie or show a teaser for future movies or seasons. Tell one complete story now. If you get a sequel, great. If not, then your story has rewatch value.
"If you haven't seen it, don't worry" is one of the most effective movie reviews I've ever heard. : P
The movie is pretty fire though ngl and those who hate it well don’t watch it 😂😂😂 right
@@shadowmoon2886 a binfire perhaps
@@shadowmoon2886 Pure dumpster fire
Pretty fire! Pretty. Fire, pretty. Fire, good!
No need, they do a "previously on" segment for the opening. Tell, don't show.
“Cinematic pyramid scheme” is fucking *beautiful,* Dan. As always, you’ve put into words a nebulous cinematic annoyance that’s been itching at my brain for years now without a way to describe it.
Yes! That’s exactly how I felt!
That phrase really is poetry. Well said, Dan.
I'm gonna use this phrase forever more whenever this pair of 'films' is mentioned.....Brilliant!
It's so freaking accurate. A lot of the time these earlier parts are just a tease for the "real movie". They don't feel like a complete movie, they're just setups for later films that may or may not be made. 😂
Great turn of phrase. I particularly like it when the "pitch" falls flat, like at the end of The Predator.
"I love grain. It's smooth and grainy and not at all irritating and it gets to exactly where I want it."
-Zack Snyder
"Someday,i will be the most Powerfull Farmer ever,and i will stop people from starving" Zanakin Snydwalker
Zack seems to think that the grain in this movie is like the spice in Dune which is... weird.
That's going to piss off Coeliac Palpatine
@@15mmGustavus Dead! Perfect line.
@@Aussie27Legend Lmao, perfectly put
You know a movie is bad when Dan dropped an F-bomb as he doesn't usually do 😂😂
Rebel Moon 3: Oops All Grain
Two F-bombs actually! :D
Rebel Moon 13: Reasons? Why?
Dan dropped a W what you mean
The Dan rage is strong in this one.
It's a team movie where everyone has absolutely zero chemistry with each other.
You’re out of your mind lol the hate train rides high my god 🤦♂️
@@IAMBATwal Cope.
and the team does not interact with each other.
The antiheist film.
@@IAMBATwalahh yes the d*ck rider of Zach Snyder
Thank you, Zack Snyder, for giving me a Dan Rant
Nothing will beat his epic Transformers rant though (yet )
Dan always taking one for the team by making sure we don't click on these dumpster fires
The age of Snyder is over. He had total freedom on this shit, no interference, no source material, no excuses. It's time to stop.
Nah jts not gonna stop it’s gonna keep going and going people love it. And they won’t stop loving it cuz how amazing it is. If you don’t like action then why watch it in the first place. Tell what horrible movies you watched. I’m sure they are more trash than your own opinion
Question, why are you cheering for it? What did he do to you personally? What about the people that actually like his work? With your permission, can we keep liking his work? Why don’t you lames just fkn focus on what you guys like? Why are you lames cheering and hopeing for the man’s failure? I swear you guys are fkn weird! I’m whiling to bet you were the loner kid that sat by himself in lunch during high school and got punked! Yall are straight weird
@@shadowmoon2886 why are yall so obsessed with this fucking dude
Total freedom? They literally made him make it pg13 and cut a ton of content out of the movie
@@SLVNTGOONZ lol exactly! They cut away from the death of the villain like wtf? That would have been the most satisfying scene.
The fans will probably say: “don’t worry, the directors cut is coming soon. it’ll be much better!” 😂
no they won't. 😂
All dozens of them
As always, what I've heard about Snyder is true. He always says that the next film or cut will actually be the one to deliver... but it never does.
My old theater manager LOVES Snyder and this is exactly what he said lol
I enjoyed Sucker Punch, while I'm sure that it has plenty of critics and plot holes, as well as 300, though Sucker Punch more for girls with clothes, rather than mostly nude barbarian's butchering historic moments. Sigh. I have seen critics rip apart Rebel Moon for copying Star Wars and Seven Samurai etc. I think Zack sadly has run his course and though I am saddened by the loss of his daughter, I don't think he should be given more money for this series of films. Despite being a Rebel of a director. Even I can write cringe dialogue better than Hellyweird :P
The most baffling thing about Zack Snyder to me is the perception that he is a brilliant visual filmmaker. It seems like even people that make fun of his films always say things along the lines of, "He's a bad writer, but his movies are gorgeous. If he simply collaborated with different writers, he'd make great movies!" I know art is all subjective, but I'm not even a fan of him stylistically/aesthetically.
RM aesthetic.. don't think has a clear focus? Is it supposed to be space Rome? Sometimes it felt like mish-mash of other stuff like Warhammer that I'm not quite sure which is its originality.
Watchmen was good looking, but soulless. His Justice League was good looking if bit long. He has a good handle on visual effects. The problem is that he is style over substance.
Snyder is overrated. Plenty of more talented directors out there that should be given a chance instead of this poser
I actually think that his visual style is fine; even Sucker Punch looks great, but he’s bad when it comes to story. Out of his own stories, Army of the Dead (or whatever the name was) is the best. And this movie also has logical flaws like there’s no tomorrow.
the dude is overly dramatic and lacks subtlety.... Slowmo when it absolutly makes no sense and dialogue that any random dude on the streets could make better. I dont know when people starting thinking snyder was a good movie maker.
I was watching this movie at work, and I noticed that I got so bored with it that I actually focused on work better
hahhahahahah!
See, *this* is what was actually being made. A tool to help workers focus, and insomniacs sleep! It was just wrongly sold as a movie.
@@whaleguy Snyder loves Ayn Rand. He probably made the movie to keep the worker drones in line by liquifying their brains lmao
I don't think I've seen Dan in so much existential pain since he reviewed CATS with Roth Cornet. 😂
That was epic
Thank you Dan for watching this, so we don't have to.
Honestly, its surprisingly bad. No review can give it justice
@@moonshine588fool you must be on drugs the movie was fire 😂
Nah watch it don’t be scared, cuz if your scared to watch it that proves it’s the best movie
@shadowmoon2886 space ships are fighting for 1,000 dollars worth of wheat. Does the mighty empire need to build a modest bakery? They should have invaded a Costco. There would have been more food
@@shadowmoon2886the 1st was coma inducing.
WE CANT KEEP LETTING HIM GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!
The difference with Alita is that us, the fans, still want to watch the rest of it. Actually I dare say that a good portion of non fans who watched it and liked Alita as a character would watch a second movie. Because in spite of its mistakes, Alita was a character done right by the actor and she was entertaining to look at. I didn’t care about seeing the rest of Rebel Moon. Couldn’t even finish the first one.
With Alita there was at least the excuse that if viewers wanted more, they had the option to read the comic books. An inadequate excuse imo, but Rebel Moon has no excuse whatsoever. Snyder apparently hasn't even finished the third screenplay yet! 🤦
Alita was at the very least good. Rebel moon is dumb
I'm not a manga guy but even I care about Alita and it's world building more than basically anything happened in Rebel Moon. Then again, comparing a duo collaboration of James Cameron and Robert Rodriguez with Zack Snyder is such a huge stretch
Alita was a solid effort and well placed for sequels. Shame that didn't happen
That opening line was SNIDER than your previous one
Nice.
Oh i get it
"Scargiver" isn't a particularly threatening name... Almost by definition it means most of her opponents survive.
corny ass name
It has serious Guardians 2 Taserface vibes 😂
"You get a scar, and you get a scar..."
"EVERYONE GETS A SCAAAAAAAAR"
How can they not, when they can be resurrected anyway?
Sees the title name.
Sees the face.
Settles down for a good time.
It’s been awhile since we’ve had an epic Dan rant,truly fantastic !😂
I don't want him to suffer - but I love to see a rant.
"A Cinematic Pyramid Scheme", oh how much I hope that phrase enters into the lexicon and becomes more common.
My favorite part was when the Griffin guy was cringing at his mom killing herself while he was dressed like a chimney sweep in a musical.
😂😂
😂😂😂 god -- that description alone makes me want to watch it
@@ReggieBishopme tooooo😅
😂😂😂😂
This review is better than the movie could ever be
Man, this movie really pissed Dan off, because he just came mightily close to pulling off a classic Mark Kermode level rant.
Mark Kermode's WW 1984 review established pretty conclusively that he is a pussy.
I hope Kermode tears this apart. Not because I wish bad things upon the movie and the team behind it, but because his rants are top tier.
Dan rants are amazing but I don't think even he can top kermode's sex and the city 2 rant! Here's hoping for a classic kermodian rant for this one. He seems to have mellowed a bit and doesn't rant as much anymore
@@inigomontoya7115 -- Mark's rants are incredible because they're always inspired by his incredible love of cinema. He recognizes that Snyder has the passion for film, but he knows he lacks what it really takes to make good films. Snyder lacks the emotional depth, but he has the skill pull off beautiful images. I think once he acknowledged this, he began to go a bit easier on him. He still trashes his movies, because they're awful films, but he's gentler about it.
"was it the nazi uniform?" i cackled
I just love how Snyder just decided to fit in some exposition dumps about his characters and universe when he had a two-hour long movie to do exactly that.
Right. The entire section of wheat harvesting could have been completely removed from the film and it would not have made a difference.
I think that what little of Zack Snyder’s recent interview with Joe Rogan confirmed everything I’ve ever thought about him. He’s a failed body builder who happened to go to art school, and then fancied himself as an artist who then bullied himself into a career in film, much to the enjoyment of people who think that body building centric video game trailer directors are good storytellers, and much to the despair of people who actually appreciate and promote the art of film as more than a means to make a poster.
You don bully people with millions of dollars to give you money is jut no your cup of tea
Didnt see that interview but based on this comment, it sounds like Zach Snyder is like if Mac from It's always sunny in Philadelphia somehow became a notable film director.
The age of snyders and bays and bolls needs to end. Why are we fancying these hacks when there is so much unnoticed talent out there. Our spare time, the world, and cinema are too finite to squeeze in so many of these douchebags. They obviously know some kind of secrets to the system that others don’t
@@keaanulaanui1147he literally organised his followers to bully WB to get the Snyder cut🫤🤷♂️
Alex from Angry Joe said it best: Zack has masculinity issues.
I don't think I will ever understand how Snyder has this much of a loyal fanbase.
300 was fun
And some people, myself included like man of steel and a few of his other movies. But this is hot trash.
All fandoms are obnoxious… ‘Star Wars’ fans, Marvel fans, ‘Game of Thrones’ fans, ‘Harry Potter’ fans… the list goes on…
I think the snyder haters are just as weird. They find themselves under any Snyder related content they can get their hands on. Both sides are extremely weird
@@zachanator2011the point is the lengths that Snyder fans go to defend him and try to convince the world that he's the greatest director ever.
@@ReggieBishop I barely ever see that though I only see Snyder fans on Snyder related content I rarely ever see any Snyder fans going out of their way to comment on things that don't relate to Snyder content. Which makes sense cuz if you love Zack Snyder I guess obviously you'd be in spaces that feature his content but Zack Snyder haters idk man it's they come out of the woodwork to emphasize how much they hate Zack Snyder. Like idk man if you guys hate him so much just don't watch his movies. There is honestly about 10 other movies Ive seen this year worse than rebel moon but I only this level of hate on his movies. I don't even think madam web got as much hate as Snyder gets, people just didn't watch that movie l, which is my sentiment like if you guys dont like rebel moon like just don't watch it, I'm seeing people who haven't seen the movie exclusively coming here just to crap on Snyder 😂😂 idk man all I'm saying is that stuff Is pretty weird bruh
Imagine being a galactic empire but somehow needing the grain output of a pre-industrial village of like 200 people
Dan should do a Zack Snyder ranking video
Dawn of the Dead
300
Justice League
Watchmen
Man of Steel
Rebel Moon
Army of the Dead
BvS
SuckerPunch
1. Dawn of the Dead
-1. Watchmen
-2. 300
-3. Army of Dead
… the other ones
They are all garbage. Saved you time
The THREE separate slow mo grain harvesting montages had me laughing my ass off.
No one should ever take the three week online course that Zack Snyder took to learn how to write a screenplay.
I don't even know if I want to hate-watch it, I don't want to give netflix the impression I want there to be more of this
I am 20 episodes in to Judge Dee's Mysteries and just finished Spy x Family, not in the slightest interested in seeing this crap.
I love spy x family
Well, I don't hate watch, but if I did, I would just download it so as not to affect Netflix's algorithm.
I would love more of this : )
Too too funny. I’ve been hate-watching far longer than I should have been.
The first one was all over my Netflix main screen they really wanted you to watch it. The 2nd one I've not seen on my main screen once and I've hardly seen any ads for it either. I get the feeling Netflix don't want you to watch it either so they don't have to pay for a 3rd.
Same...I had to look for it ! And finished it in half an hour with all the fast forwarding...
They are pushing it at me, I have not and never will watch the first or any other iteration of this franchise. At least Netflix rejected his idea of adapting The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand.
@@pattheplanter cant you select don't show me this again on netflix or is that just youtube?
@@TheRealMcCoyAndChipsAhoy There's movies that are made to be watched in the background and now we have movies that are made for speedrun. Hollywood is really shooting themselves in the foot.
I’ve never seen Dan this angry :) when he talked about the grain all I could think about was Ben from Parks and Recs saying “The thing people forget about Rebel Moon is, it’s all about the grain” 😂
Quite impressive that despite all the death & destruction in both movies that Snyder & Team were able to make me feel absolutely nothing for the protagonists, that takes real skill from the auteur!
Literally Ray Fisher’s character in the first movie dies via sacrifice TEN MINUTES after his introduction!
@@stormtraitor6545 It was so stupid!
@@AllInTheGame01
Stupid doesn’t come close to describing it…
@@stormtraitor6545 But the man's a genius, a visionary 🙄
@@AllInTheGame01
Sounds like you’re talking about Denis Villeneuve. 😆
As incompetent as Lucasfilm is with Star Wars these days, it's a good thing that they rejected Snyder's pitch for Star Wars which was this. It could've gone way worse for the franchise, now that this exists, perhaps I owed the sequel trilogy an apology 😂
Nah, I wish they let him make it. Imagine the two most confrontational fandoms duking it out online, such a blast
I owed “The Rise of Skywalker” an apology after “Jurassic World: Dominion”.
Nobody ever should give the Disney SW trilogy an apology. Never
My thoughts, exactly! 😂
I’d happily watch ‘The Rise of Skywalker’, ‘The Book of Boba Fett’ and the worst episode of ‘The Mandalorian’ over this.
I really enjoyed Alita Battle Angel. I wish it got a sequel, but i understand your frustration with the way the narrative was framed
I found Alita to be an incoherent mess.
I suppose if this is Snyder's Star Wars movie, then we are to believe Luke Skywalker spent the first quarter of the movie farming moisture on his moisture farm. And it seems Snyder believes the grain to be as precious as the spice melange in DUNE. LOL. Hollywood please DO NOT give Snyder any more money! Give it to the show runners of FALLOUT.
The problem is Netflix has money to burn and they will give anybody millions of dollars just to flood their service with content -- no matter whether it's good or notm
Oh, I’m certain the showrunners of ‘Fallout’ will be getting handsomely paid anyway.
Also Hollywood, pay attention, ‘Fallout’ is what you get when you actually HIRE writers and pay them their due!
Rebel Moon Part One was so terrible, imagine my shock how terrible Part Two will be 😂😂
Looking forward to a few years down the line when Zach Snyder won't shut up about his 3 hour cut of the episode of 'Grey's Anatomy' that he just directed.
... This is literally the first time I've wanted to see an episode of Grey's Anatomy, so job well done, I guess?
When Rebel Moon Part One came out, there were a lot of people saying, "Well, withhold judgment. This is just the setup for the real story in Part Two." And there was a lot of excitement for the "Snyder Cut" of Part One (which I notice we never got), because that was supposed to be "the real movie".
It seems now that the Rebel Moon movies are just snake oil, where the *next* dose is the one that's supposed to fix what ails you.
I hate the idea of, release a movie, but the movie that I didn’t realize is better and and we need a 4 hour cut for it all to make sense. Make a good movie first.
Actually, they're supposed to be releasing the R-rated Snyder Cuts of *both* movies some day ... which will supposedly add an additional hour to each movie! 😮
@@lovetheblue6659 you mean more slow motion origin stories told over tearful eyed characters. oh wee
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I never understood the tactic of waiting to release a "Snyder Cut". it feels like they figure if it has those words in the marketing his fans will eat it up like pigs at a trough but surely most people are aware that he has full control over both cuts. So how does this help? Why release an inferior version that will almost guarantees that less people will watch the next one? It hurts my brain thinking about it.
Zach clearly read a Dune synopsis and tried to replace spice with grain, with no actual context for its importance.
"That if you haven't seen... don't worry."
That killed me.
How dare you diss Alita Battle Angel with this!! That movie was amazing
It was tolerable, but it did have major problems.
Lmao, when Dan cusses in a ranty movie review, it fills me with a kind of joy that usually my wife and streaky bacon do. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4:56 “yo are you gonna do anything?!?!”
His tone saying that was hilarious 🤣
i couldnt even finish the first one
Uh-oh. Someone needs to explain Chekov's Gun to Snyder.
Or a Mcguffin or any sign he knows how to use tropes even on a basic level.
@@TheOtakuKat 😂🤣💀👻
Regarding the Alita backlash, it is a very odd world that we live in; fan communities are often full of people who hate a given property while reviewers get attacked for not being fans.
"a cinematic pyramid scheme"
"You haven't seen the 1st movie?"
"Eh, don't worry." 😂
I love how your bad puns hurt you even before you finish them. They are great.
Snyder has no excuses left. This and his failed Army of the Dead universe is proof that the guy is clueless.
I can't wait for Rebel Moon: Part Three: The Snyder Cut to tell me that the real battle begins in Rebel Moon: Part Four: The Snyder Cut!
Excellent review, Dan, thank you. I've tried twice to make it through the first film but I just can't endure it. I enjoyed your review considerably more.
Zack: "I...declare...A CINEMATIC UNIVERSE!!!!"
I have never seen a Zach Snyder movie. I am not expecting to change that anytime soon.
I thought I had seen one but I just checked and that was actually by Michael Bay. Damn you, Ryan Reynolds.
Snyder is pretty bad - but Sucker Punch has some reedemable qualities
If you like horror his Dawn of the Dead remake is good 🎬
Alita was awesome. I can see how the ending could have been unsatisfying in a cliché cliff-hanger kind of way, but at least all the immediate plot threads were brought to a satisfying conclusion. Given that it was based on a long-running manga and thus an extensive story with multiple arcs, reaching a conclusion to the first of those arcs is really the best you could have asked for from a motion picture.
If you made a supercut of people talking about grain and actually harvesting grain - between both movies - you'd end up with about 20 minutes. It's like Snyder wanted to make a movie about farming and shoehorned in scifi
Probably disappointed at the low moisture farm content in the original Star Wars. The grain just looks like wheat. There are so many alien-looking grains. Coix lacryma-jobi would have worked.
@@pattheplanter There are so many things in Rebel Moon that are so... pedestrian.... and terrenal... terrible lack of imagination
Dan - thank you for actually being critical. Not a fan of needlessly negative reviews, but i find it refreshing when critics and fans call out the trash that Hollywood puts in front of us. Creativity and story should be encouraged, and reviews like this help push that idea.
Hell yea, I love when you don't pull your punches. Also, thanks for the new word: circuitous.
"I would have thrown *rocks* at my TV screen at the end of this movie" holy shit haha
Considering all the changes going on at Netflix’s film division right now as a result of the leadership change, the new leadership might win me over if they don’t green light any more Rebel Moon films.
this is a prime "the game is on" award contender for Mr. Sunday Movies
That Roger rabbit reference had me dead!
But only because it was funny
Snyder tried to come up with his own version of spice melange but the best he could do was grain.
You were a fool, watching Rebel Two: Electric Boogaloo and hoping for such stupid things like interesting characters, or an intriguing plot. _I_ watched it for that hot grain action, and _BOY_ was I not disappointed
I love the thumbnail and I love the opening pun. 💯
“A cinematic pyeamis scheme” holy shit Dan came for blood
2:15....ut-oh, them hands are a moving! Are we getting a Dan Rant? Let's Go! 🤣
A generic sci fi epic is underperforming? Say it isn't so. But Zack has that "Snyder cut" cult that worship him, right? Oh heavens.
Every time I see the title of this film I think it says "The Scaregiver," like it's a cheesy horror movie about a murderous nurse or something (love the review btw. I laughed out loud more than once)
If you haven’t seen, don’t worry 😂😂😂😂
Great review Dan! Poster quote - “It’s all about the f*****g grain” - Dan Murrell
this video made me nostalgic for the old SJU Dan Rants graphic haha
I didn’t know this movie had come out and also didn’t know how badly I needed a Dan Rant. Thank you!
I have to disagree with your review. I think the scene with the grains was actually a pivotal moment in the story. Don't forget that the Noble from the Mother land came to the village specifically for the grains
The scen where they were preparing the grains was a very powerful scen. it was showing how the community came together to meet the 5-day deadline. in addition to preparing for battle. The backstories were perfectly timed, giving us a deeper understanding of the characters just when we needed it. I didn't find the pacing slow at all - in fact, I was fully engaged the whole time. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel while searching for Rebel Moon part 3
I see why WB felt a need to interfere, and rightfully so.. it’s their properties. However, there’s no blaming Netflix here, it’s all Snyder. The truth is revealed… as many truths are being revealed this year with high profile people.
Prayers to Dan for sitting through this slow mo flick
I love the fact that the army of the bad guys uses their machine guns as swords LOL
I absolutely LOVE a fired-up Dan review. Always a masterpiece!
This review made me laugh several times. Thanks for the entertainment, Dan!
Part one was so great that I forgot Rebel Moon existed.
This is a really good critique. Something that ruins so many movies for me is when they don’t conclude the story but end on an undeserved cliffhanger and demand a sequel. They don’t earn another film (or a franchise) through making the best movie they can, they insist on it by leaving the story inconclusive. Before streaming and the incredible ease of cinematic access we have today, I think films tried to avoid this because it was too costly a gamble. But it’s becoming a problem now. I like the Stars Wars Sequel Trilogy more than many, but a big criticism of those three films is they all relied on all three being watched to make sense (and with the mid-production ret-cons they scarcely managed that).
6:26 - almost spit out my drink while listening to that part. Hilarious xD
8:32 He did the EXACT same thing with that zombie franchise he tried to start on netflix too.
"This film won't win any oscars" isn't really an insult, because the Academy NEVER gives oscars to the best action films anyway. John Wick 4, No Time To Die, Logan, Wonder Woman, Winter Soldier ... doesn't matter how great you are, if you're an action film, forget it. The Academy only likes slow, boring films where every character is miserable and nothing interesting happens.
This was a great episode of "How's it made" - Flour episode 😢
Nothing makes me happier than a dan murrel rant!!!
The best thing about rebel moon is that it is so irritating that my fav critics cannot help but rant about it - it inspires pure comedic gold, and for that znack Snyder, I thank you.
Lol "Cinematic Pyramid Scheme" is such a funny term. Very funny review! These last few years have been especially bad for this kind of stuff. Even movies that people loved really pissed me off for doing it, like Across the Spider-Verse and Dune Part 1. That movie wasn't even *called* Part 1 when it first came out. And we *still* don't know whether Spider-Verse 3 is ever gonna exist. And don't even get me started on "Fast X" 😆
So they are able to master space travel ..but have no way of growing grain without the need of a few peasants?
Dan’s Rants are some of my favorite things to watch😂😂😂
Former assassin/special ops #1 most wanted criminal in the galaxy immediately takes off her disguise as she SNEAKS around the enemy ship to blow it up. Former best general of the empire doesn't employ any real strategy for the coming battle except for maybe "yell loud". Sad surviving prince with a Force-like connection with animals does nothing with animals, but at least his hair is pretty. The ONLY character that actually did what we know them to do - and did it well - was the laser sword-wielding lady. And well, she died. The end.
Dune: Rebel Moon. "The grain must flow...in slo-mo."
You summed it up perfectly when you said too much too late. That’s exactly what this movie is “too much too late: The movie.”
The harvesting scenes are some of the best scenes of these movies lol
I watched the first Rebel Moon...I'm not doing that to myself again~!
I bet Netflix producers were very surprised when watching this. That was the first time they found out Zack is already doing next part.
I also hate this trend of making every movie or show a teaser for future movies or seasons. Tell one complete story now. If you get a sequel, great. If not, then your story has rewatch value.