The funniest parts of the streams were when it's been 40 minutes of boring dialogue, then once you finally get control back. Immediately another 20 minute cutscene about nothing.
Skill Up is amazing in what he's doing, but he purposefully avoids any woke related topics, like that the entire industry has become anti straight white male centric, just like the film industry, but he never acknowledges any of that, which really annoys me.
While I may not agree with most of your points on your videos, I appreciate the existence of a channel who is willing to speak their mind without worrying about what most people think.
Most anti-trend youtubers express controversial opinions to get views. Synthetic Man is honest even to a fault at times. Hard not to like the guy considering how close to a regular dude he seems to be and not just some clout chasing gen-z moron.
You know , back then were cutscenes in games like a reward for the tough gameplay but nowadays its the opposite. You are rewarded with gameplay after you watched huge amounts of cutscenes. . Gaming is totally screwed .
I’m also staggered that there are eight different unique elements and yet not a single mechanic for elemental affinity, or difference in spells. Fire doesn’t cause DoT, wind doesn’t lift, lightning doesn’t chain, ice doesn’t freeze, dark doesn’t blind, stone doesn’t stagger or petrify etc.
@Evanz111 Yeah it's weird. Testing out each element's charged projectiles, they all do the same exact damage number to enemies. Why even have all these different elements if none of them have unique properties. No affinities or option to exploit enemy resistance at all. Why is there not a burn meter filling up when I'm doing fire combos? Am ice meter should be slowing enemies down. Darkness should be making an enemy attack itself and/or other enemies in combat.
I don't think lore, in and of itself is an issue, I'd even argue that extremely well thought out and compelling world building is nothing but a benefit. Rather, I think how "lore" is used by modern writers is the real problem. When used correctly, it functions like fries in a fast-food order. Ideally it slots in seemlessly with your burger and drink, and after you're done your meal, you might find some fries at the bottom of the bag - a little extra treat you weren't expecting. The way modern writers tend to use it is like a crutch or a bandaid for incompetent writing. They make bad creative decisions and try to excuse them by pointing to something outside of the story as justification. Take Destiny for example. It basically put the key points of its story on a bloody website instead of the actual game. If your story requires material outside of itself to make sense, then it's a bad story. Go rewrite it.
Agreed. I think lore is best when it is set dressing for a story, not the story itself. FFX had all of its lore delivered practically without the need for menus and such. The world had history in FFX but you were shown this in the level design. Tidus asked the same questions the player would likely want to ask, and the rest could be found organically by talking to NPCs. You only got as much lore as you needed to understand what was happening, and the delivery of that lore was tight and scaled with your level of interest to seek it out. Too many contemporary stories spend way too much time including everything possible in any way they can, text or no. It becomes boring.
@@12ealDealOfficial A perfect example of game writers/devs being beyond retarded is Destiny 2, where the lore of the game is absolutely god-tier, with really interesting scenes and shit going on that is nowhere even CLOSE to what is going on in the main stories or side content, I don't know how this happens but in most large scale world games there's a ton of super super interesting lore, but the actual main plot or side content is absolutely mind numbingly boring
Correct and justified. Destiny (rather, Bungie) did a horrible job of incorporating lore when it was necessary. I love Destiny but it is a severely flawed franchise (not that fans will ever admit that).
A great thing the Yakuza series does is having Control over the pacing of the story, don't want to continue the main story? Try exploring the city for some side activities, then you find a side story organically by you deciding to explore rather than getting some NPC giving you a waypoint to start another slow paced cutscene that you can't skim through because it's voiced.
@jAK73 Yakuza games pretty much have non existent level design. The combat and AI. Has barely evolved since the Ps2 original, save U7's repetitive Diet Dragon Quest combat. These are hard facts. Tell me you just got into Yakuza games, without telling me.
For the record, the "negativity" of your videos aren't bad. It's better to know exactly what's wrong with a game than sugercoat its flaws, shout mindless praise, and unconditionally give it a score of 9 or higher.
Plus, there is just less to say when discussing positives. You can describe the combat, and then say it's good. Okay. It's the mistakes that actually generate commentary and criticism, even if it's mostly good.
i dont know sometimes its overblown. I love his videos but when he came at legend of zelda i was like cmon that game is AMAZING., yes there was ALOT of zeldas story etc but it was so good i did not care. There are some games you cant even say were awful even though he did not at all say it was awful but he went negative on a few points.
If Skillup was right then we truly are living in the darkest of times! Tbh I’m getting tired of Sony’s interactive movie games. Not everything needs a ten minute exposition cutscene. Just let me play!
Bro Maximilian Dood kept shilling for this 🚮 game just because he got a sponsorship, meet the developers and went to a concert with them. 😂 So he kept trying to make people in his fanbase to buy it. But when people told him the game sucks he kept saying it’s fun but now in a recent stream he says he won’t play that game again or he won’t play the new dlc for it because he didn’t really like it.😂
@@StriderZessei I hear that about their sales goals, but no, it’s objectively very bad. It’s nearly 1.3m less sales than remake, and after the reception of rebirth…. Part 3 is shaping up to be another huge loss in sales.
I miss Gears of War: Funny and engaging characters sharing banter between each other while completely still immersed in gameplay. Cool weapons (the torque bow) great graphics, great in game set pieces. Man, online was incredible to. Gaming is dead.
Tbh , i prefer more variation in game genres , writing-styles and focused tones/atmossphere/themes instead of "bring back that one thing to milk it harder till its insufferable again " -approach. The problem is the trends shouldnt dominating design-philosophies because thats why we end up with gaming that we got today . If gaming should improve after this woke-pocalypse then it should have much more variety of game-designs and approaches instead generalising everything into few samey genres . You know what reasonable people say :" Variety is the spice of life ."
I seriously miss turn-based RPGs. Even though the systems were the result of technical limitations, they had this unique thrill and level of suspense that real time action games can't quite replicate. Battles were almost like puzzles, with the added benefits of nail-biting tension and glorious spectacle. EDIT: I'm not arguing that the original turn-based RPG formula was flawless. Of course it had issues; the most obvious of which were excessive grindiness and random encounters. I doubt anyone believes these mechanics were a net positive. I'm simply stating that, when at their best, turn-based RPG battles could be pulse-pounding games of cat-and-mouse mixed with chess. I personally haven't played a real-time action game that truly manages to give me that same feeling. Not even "Combat Puzzle" games like Doom Eternal.
At least _this_ game finally commits to being a proper action game, with DMC style combat. That feels like a *massive* improvement over decades of god-awful action/menu hybrids which were always clunky and terrible (I'm looking at you: FF7 Remake). I'm like you: I never had an issue with turn-based RPGs. I also like DMC/Platinum action games. What I could never abide was the middle ground.
Though I am considering getting this game, I do like that you don’t shy away from being honest and giving us your upfront takes on media that is hyped up to hell and back. It helps me to temper my expectations when trying out new things, people give you crap for it, but if anything I want more channels to be candid with their content and tell me if something sucks or not.
Most people are controlled by confirmation bias - they just want their preconsived notions approved. On the other side of that is cognitive dissonance. For a lot of people it's a very unplesent feeling so they attack/discredit/ignore anyone who chalanges their biases. I just wander what will they say once the hypy dies down. FF13 was praised after launch as well, now it's considered the black sleep of the series😂
@@SimonGreyGhoston the other side media is also full of people that wants to just hate on stuff, it's not a one way road. I love this game and it's not due to recency bias. There is certain things that could have been improved but as a whole I'm having more fun with this than most modern games out there and that's coming from someone that spent more time in multiplayer games than single player games.
There is another guy just as jaded as he is: WorthaBuy. These two are pretty spot on in terms of highlighting flaws in games and not caring about the rest of society and what it thinks it cool. For games to truly advance we have to identify biases. Only a few reviewers are good at it. SKill up is pretty good but there is that feeling that as a channel gets more popular the move away from being cynical and more friendly to industry people starts to creep up. This is the path of most youtube people who rely on this as their main income. This is why corporate side to gaming pisses me off. At some point everyone turns into access media guy that is not self aware of the corruption. These giant companies need kick in the butt to remind them we want gaming to advance not stay stagnant. And the bigger the game industry gets the more corporate it gets and the more greedy and powerful it gets which allows them to ignore real criticism. (they reach the "too big to fail" status and don't give a sh1t if the product is bad because so many young people will still buy the stuff regardless. EA is perfect example of that)
You are not "too hard on modern video games" Modern gaming has become cancer. Honestly, I don't mind long cutscenes (as long as the gameplay is there). But, the story is not worth slogging through it anymore...
@@dib327 sadly everything has been doomed. I'm just taking off the rose colored glasses. I watched as gaming plummeted from the richness of fallout 1/2, system shock, original bioshock, prince of Persia (for those platform lovers. I don't), new vegas, battlefield 2, diablo 2 original, and so forth. Younger kids only by 10 years but enough to not have played or experienced these games always get uppity when people criticize modern gaming. Just like the film industry, gaming has taken a major fall. No more originality, risk taking, or heart put into games. Everything is now streamlined for the average moron who thinks mobile games make him a gamer. The industry wants to appeal to everyone and creates a mediocre, banal product.
Feels like only yesterday you dropped your last video! Happy to see the more frequent uploads. I know you mentioned you weren't sure how people might react to your slightly revised editing style, but I can tell you it's still spot on.
We need a Trepang2 review. Just enough story to take you from fight to fight with some of the most visceral and enjoyable gunplay ever designed. Gameplay is king.
@@yirawls Approaching 2000 reviews in 1 week on Steam (still overwhelmingly positive) is quite good for an indie + it's not too far down the top sellers list. Gman's Trepang video is almost at half a mil views in 8 days. More views than some of his 6 month old videos for bigger games. I think it would be great to see a "rapid review" style video for some indies that deserve attention, "focus on fun", and don't have an agenda. 0 pozzed ESG "woke" garbage. Made by a small team of white and asian dudes as all games should be. Plus, it would just be a nice change of pace to hear our boy Synthetic actually enjoy something too lol. A little break from the blackpilling can be nice.
I'm tired of games being more movie than games. I was replaying the Witcher 3 from beginning and I forgot how slow the beginning was. Still great, but I've lost my patience with super long story games.
Things that would help the game imo. Adding in more sword combos like dmc, making the chocobo a reward for main story missions so people don’t miss it, make torgul combat automatic, some skins, better side quest rewards, just to name a few
I didn't appreciate FF12 until I played the Zodiac edition on PS4. The world building and scope was amazing. Now I just want another "jrpg" with a system similar to the gambit system. Grinded for hours on end while tweaking the gambits. Couldn't even finish FF15.
@@arkeshn729 12 had pretty shit world-building. But yes, it had scope; everything is fucking big because...reasons. I never understood the appeal of gambits; I don't understand people who complain about this optional aspect either, but I'd rather play the game than work obsessively to make the game play itself for me.
I don't know why people constantly desire to conflate unwillingness to watch cutscenes with short attention span. When i play game i want to play, not watch .
I don't mind cutscenes. They're necessary when you want characters to interact in ways that aren't possible through in-game gameplay. But there needs to be a proper ratio with gameplay being dominant. These days it doesn't feel like that with a lot of games. Hades for example tells the story through gameplay
I lay somewhere in the middle, I actually think the combat is really fun and the main story is good and clives pretty likable. I do however agree with you about the sheer frequency of cutscenes being fucking ridiculous and I personally skipped all side dialogue.
This is what I was afraid of. I can't believe they actually slapped the XVI on this and made it part of the mainline series. FF has traditionally offered so much more, with compelling casts, and side quests that actually felt important. They should have labeled this as a spin off. Even then, the sheer amount of cutscenes would still be a problem, especially in an action game.
I'm so mad at square enix. I finished it in 18!!! Hours. There is nothing to explore. No RPG at all, not even level up, come on, you get 3 attack and hp, wow, enemies not? Craft weapon, +3ad, buy new one, +10. It had so much potential...but it's super boring.... I don't know. Everything was there...i am so mad....hard to rate, some things are a 10 or 9, many a 7 but a lot of 0s too since it simply is missing. No Party, no loot, i did not even collect anything shiny, for what. Gosh so mad
18? They you skipped through most of the story bro, So side quests, Yeah at start they felt like boring but as you follow through they get better, You also get Permanent upgrades of it. I pre-ordered game played and then got bored of it and stop playing until few days ago after I finished Rebirth, I picked this game up and realise I was playing it wrongly, Now I even brought DLC of it.
@@formanga8871 nope, not true. I did not Skip a thing. Did sides at the beginning...but for what? +5 hp? Nope. At last i went straight through the main, yes
@@kingcarplipsJfs the gameplay is the only thing that is truly great. It's the Devil mat cry dude who designed it. 15 is one of my favorites, because despite it's flaws it had a great story and character development
He’s lying he did not play the game all the way he only played it for 15 hours the cutscenes are 20 hours yes but there’s 50 hours of gameplay left you’re just blindly following this bad review
@@JillValentine2013 35h if you rush like some idiot. i have 60+ hours in the game (54h when i beat it) and now am doing the ng+ playthrough. dude played 15 hours, what a joke. putting up a review while not having playthe whole game is far worse than IGN, lmao. it reminds me when IGN played only route A in re2remake and not B and called it a day. synthetic man is getting lazier and lazier.
it was ok. the story is extremely boring and the characters are aswell. the gameplay is good tho. but if they're putting so much story into the game, and even voice at some of it, make a great story. FFXVI has a bit too many cutscenes but at least the story is great, just like the gameplay. also its not even "a classic FF game". its literally braverly default with different graphics, stop fooling yourself.
"It's all in reverse now. Back in the day, in the PlayStation 1 era the CGI cutscenes was well received and appraised because two things: the spectacle factor and by giving context to the story. Gameplay was (and still is) the king and as such it was treat just like that. Now, you must to bear with the broken, nonsensical, subpar anime/manga writing to be able to play the damn game. And that if the gameplay is good enough to worth that time. Like you said: the save the best bits to the demo, baiting enough people to later delivers the kick in your gaming ballz. This can possibly be the final nail in the Final Fantasy franchise, thanks for the lack of touch from the Square-Enix suits. What shame."
@@kenshigo3833 They already remastered FFX and they did quite a lazy job at it. The PS2 version unironically looks better. Further I would be worried that they wouldn't keep the turn based combat. I just don't like new Final Fantasy combat.
@@darken2417still annoys me when I play the "remaster" to see those creepy doll faces. Luckily I have my PS2 and emulator if I'm feeling nostalgic. FF7 Remake "classic" mode pretty let us og fans know that we'll have to play games like Octopath Traveler and Bravely Default if we want turn based SquareEnix RPGs.
@@arkeshn729 Yep the remaster faces are pretty bad. Their excuse is that they wanted the faces to look more like how they looked in the cinematics, not something that wasn't possible in the PS2 era but of course this then made them look like different characters. I'd prefer it to just be all turn-based or all non-turn based and no special modes. Parallel mechanics take dev time away from everything else. And of course a classic mode won't have the same depth and attention to detail as if the game was built completely around turn-based combat.
The only reason lore exists is so that cringe TH-camrs like Vatti can make hundreds of videos like "xxxx explained", "prepare to xxx", "The complete timeline of xxx", "xxx is deeper than you thought, here is why", "The philosophical themes behind xxx"
Lore has existed in games decades before TH-camrs were even a thing lol. It's purpose is to add extra detail to the world in addition to the main narrative of the game's story. TH-camrs just found a way to capitalize on it by making those videos.
I really enjoyed this game. And I usually can't stand games with long cut scenes. And yes, there are WAY too many cut scenes that go on for far too long. That is definitely true. But the bosses are insanely good in this game. A lot of them are very cinematic, but I really enjoyed them personally.
It's a very PS2 era feeling cinematic action like the original GOW series mixed with MGS length cutscenes, complete with an edgy and brooding male protagonist and over the top bad guys. It's honestly a breath of fresh air in comparison to the other cinematic action slop with ESG crap we've been getting.
that's actually hilarious. i was watching an asmongold stream and he was playing this game, i only watched like 30min and instantly knew i wont buy this. cutscene after cutscene.
When it comes to the ungodly amount of cutscenes in this game yoshi p. Was the director for FF16 if you don't know who that is he's the guy who rebooted FF14 into what it is and I played 14 for about 4 ish years and that game is incredibly dialogue/cutscene heavy which explains why FF16 has 20 hours worth of cutscenes as for everything else idk I haven't played the game yet and I'm pretty hesitant to start anytime soon
i haven’t gotten my hands on FF16 but i am currently caught up to FF14. I thought (aside from ARR) there wasn’t a single moment where i felt dissapointed by the cutscenes, especially going into Shadowbringers and Endwalker every cutscene was fucking spectacular. i wonder what happened to 16
Do you really expect synthetic "ADD" man to pay attention at all? That dude is more cynical than my 80 year old grandpa and i thought it was impossible.
That's...not an explanation of why he was screaming like a maniac. If I started accusing you of adultery, and then justified it because I just stubbed my toe...yeah, that doesn't actually explain why I'm doing what I'm doing. That was cringey overacting and nothing else.
@@chadwhite6302 in this day and age, Metroid dread, Doom Eternal, God of war, Elden ring, Persona 5 Royale, Hollow Knight, Tears of the kingdom, Ghost of Tsushima, RE4 Remake, Genshin Impact, Nier replicant. And that’s just the tip of the ice berg. I like 2000s games as well and I got a list of them too, but they also had some bad apples as well so cut the pessimistic bs.
@jeffali5157 Re4 remake? Lol genshin impact? Elden ring? Doomed eternal? Ghost of tushima? What the hell are you talking about. You just listed games that are ok at best. Doom eternal is one of Bethesda worst games. Doom 3 was better and that was made 20 years ago. Genshin impact, ill just take that as a joke. Elden ring and ghosts are literally just worse clones than dark souls, and that game came out 15 years ago. Fuck the ninja giden series is almost better than any hack and slash you listed. Sorry we had Mass effect, Dead Space, Ratchet and Clank, dark souls, OG God of War, Oblivion, skyrim, Halo, Gears of War, Fallout, Fable, call of duty 4, Battlefield Bad Company 2, battlefield 3, mario n64, Devil may cry, Bayonetta, Ninja Giden, shadow of the clossos, super mario smash, portal, team fortress, counter strike, hell even bullestorm which was cheasy is better than some of the games you listed
What’s crazy about this and Forspoken is that Squeenix was aiming for the western/American market with both releases. I think it’s speaks more to how Japan sees America and what America is exporting than anything else lmao.
Definitelty agree with your take on lore. I shouldn't be expected to read a bunch of outside resources they release after the fact just to make sense of a game's messy storyline.
You dont need to use the lore thing. Its just there for a reminder. The cast talk about what they are doing and why. The side quests, while a slog, do flesh out the world more.
I didn’t read any lore and i understood it perfectly… maybe you’re just stupid. You also literally have the active lore function which is an ingame source
Even if I don't agree with all your points on games I have to say you very entertaining and I am never bored with your videos. You are very underrated and I hope you continue to grow.
As someone who agrees with most of your gaming takes, this is still a game I'll buy. I don't mind that this is a movie game, because the XIV devs can write some phenomenal fantasy stories and Soken is an amazing composer. Plus they are the biggest devs in the market that love Yasumi Matsuno's work (Vagrant Story, FF: Tactics).
Lmao absolute fucking shill. Story of XVI is garbage. I've met Nobuo and I have an FF tattoo. I have beaten every game from 1-10, and 12-15. Your god Yoshi P is trash and so is 14 and 16. Stop sucking his dick.
I have never seen anyone, I mean anyone on twitch or youtube over the years, playing yakuza dubbed. I wasn't aware any of the games even had dubs, what would be the point in a game that is so focused on being Japanese?
It's funny how different perceptions are. I find myself on the edge of my seat all the time. I love the story so far, the music, the combat is super fun. You actually don't have to read the active time lore to understand the full story tbh, it's more like a nice addition.
Or, you have very low story and narrative standards. Dominants and Bearers being enslaved had me eye rolling the ENTIRE game. It's GOT s08 levels of terrible.
@@roussounmanman Or, I don't have low narrative standards, and just understand that mankind is messed up and it's easy to suppress some stronger few if a majority of people believe it to be justified. But surely we won't find any examples of that in our *real life history*, amirite?
The one thing that bugged me incessantly was not being able to perform aerial combo's without using Garuda or phoenix. basically makes the gameplay more fluid and fun, so you will never part with them if you care for more versatile combat which makes it annoying to have to sacrifice fun for functionality and efficiency when it comes to harder hitting abilities.
Don’t forget you can ‘Master’ abilities you really like and then slot them into any Eikon. So you can equip Garuda but slot in Eikon abilities you’ve mastered from Bahamut or Titan, or vice versa. Just got upgrade the ability you like by spending the AP to master it.
You actually can keep air combos easily just hold square with the mastered charged sword move you can cancel a lot of thing with the jump in the air too hope that helps
Final Fantasy 7 Time to beat: 37 hours Cutscenes: 14 hours FF16 Time to beat: 32 hours Cutscenes. 17 hours (Gamersprey) FF7 is considered the best of all time. FF 10 46 hours, 10 hours cutscenes MGS4 is considered a masterpiece, many cutscenes, just like TLOU. It´s nothing new, just more talked about.
@@torchlight3173 doesn´t have cutscenes? are you kidding me? Stop being a hater, fanboy or whatever you are. scenes in which you don´t control a character are considered a cutscene here. you think FF16 has 20 hours of CGI scenes?? And 10 hours talking scenes + 2 hours playtime? wtf are you smoking?
Great video. The game is kind of a weird hybrid between MMORPG (the semi open world and annoying quests), action game (well, the combat) and interactive movie. The action game part may be the fun part, but it's being paratized by the other parts. It's also quite sad that this game simply isn't a Final Fantasy. A mainline Final Fantasy - one of the greatest (J) RPG series of all time - is not an RPG. That's sheer madness. Square Enix sacrificed so much of the series' identity just to make the game suitable for a mass audience.
And most people don't seem to be calling them out for it, instead praising it, mainly due to being in the honeymoon phase, and OH PRETTY. Final Fantasy is simply dead.
@@roussounmanman No, it just changed. Dead for those that are obsessed with the turned based battle systems, sure. I grew up with those too, the original FF7 was my first final fantasy (and still my favorite, much prefer it to the trilogy of remakes that are coming which will pump each part with loads of filler to increase the game length, therefore ruining the pacing) - The reason I enjoyed FF7 wasn't the turn based battle system, it was the world, music, visuals, and story: so it doesn't matter to me that they have changed the battle system in recent final fantasies. While I feel bad for those who don't enjoy final fantasy's that aren't turned based and the series is seemingly dead for them, don't act like it's dead to the rest of us.
Good hack n slash games like Metal Gear Rising is great but I vouch for Ninja Gaiden, I like a little challenge and it's personally one of my favorite game series besides DMC and speaking of DMC, I recommend you play and review DMC5 since people compare it a lot to FFXVI. The game has its flaws which I won't spoil for you and it has a recap on the main menu and has got lesser cutscenes that aren't tedious. And because you have a PS5, you can get DMC5 Special Edition since it's a lot cheaper. I love hack n slash but overall, this genre itself used to be as popular as soulslikes, thankfully, Platinum Games are keeping it breathing with Bayonetta. Anyway, I love your content as it's a very honest gaming channel that encourages people to freely speak out their own opinions on games, keep up the great work!👍
certain types of games aren't for everyone. That's certainly the case with story driven rpg's, where telling a compelling, dense story is the first priority of the devs. Consuming the main narrative in a game like FF16 isn't unlike reading a book. You can't impatiently skim each page waiting for it to be something else. You have to have the patience and commitment to let it unravel at the pace it was designed to unravel. Which again, is not the kind of game a lot of people are going to be into, attention spans are down, I get it. But coming from someone who values and looks for good story telling in video games, I love FF16. It's a dense, sprawling, slow burn, that takes its time. And the payoff is a sense of having lived in this world and gotten to know its characters over decades of in game time. The gameplay is secondary but important. And again, compared to other jpgs, 16 is leagues ahead of its competition with its battle system. So which jpgs in the last 20 years are we comparing this to?
My problem is, for an action game, I don't think this was the best course of action; because at the end of it, people want to get back to the gameplay that's the selling point of the game. The story could be good, but if you're bogging the game down with just story, story, story, then it's gonna feel like a drag when you only get to fight for a small amount of it. You got to have a good balance, I believe, and I'd say older FF games did it better, though given the grinding nature of them, the combat could feel repetitive, but I do believe they had a good balance with FF12. I don't think I could agree with FF16 being leagues ahead of other JRPGs with it's battle system, when it's not much of an JRPG, but more of a full on Action game, and lacks any of the RPG that most JRPGs have: status effects, weaknesses/strengths, etc. Which is exactly what Yoshi-P did with FF14 as well. Especially, when most JRPGs battle systems are a bit more strategic and require more micro management, because of all the buffs/debuffs, accountability of team make up, gear, status effects, etc.
The game has the same problem as digimon survive 70% story 30% gameplay The difference is that FF16 was promoted as an hack&slash action RPG While survive was promoted as a visual novel first with sprinkles of tactical RPG. Maybe this is worst FF16 is as much an RPG as call of duty People take issue with this kind of thing
Except there are ways to give a video game compelling and dense stories without bogging down or undermining the gameplay and pacing, Death Stranding being a great example as it's a game I'm playing through right now. It's narrative about connection and separation is very compelling and dense, and yet DS remembers that it's a video game and therefore most of the time you're playing the game, you are going to be delivering packages, planning your routes, making bridges and roads that allow you to get to certain places much easier, etc, and you have to be careful and thorough as you have a limit on how much you can build due to the chiral network's bandwidth, and you can also damage your packages which lowers the amount of likes you get, which lowers the rate of connection you build with many of the people you deliver packages too. Video games are video GAMES, they are meant to be played, not sit there and listen and watching what goes on most of the time, that's what movie/shows are for.
I watched someone play the game and it literally took only few minutes to understand how bad the game really is. People seem to buy these game because of the title alone. Its like they don't even care about the gameplay.
and of course the blind idiot didnt even watched the video and is spouting horseshit. its clear that you are parroting other opinions, its pathetic and sad (no, its actually funny, like every clown is).
When i played this game, this is the first game in my life where i legit skipped cutscenes and it didn't even matter because that cutscene i just skipped was just filler and had nothing to do with the story
@@GuiltyBystander8Not true. The RPG traits in FFXVI would be... * Creating builds in regards to Eikonic Ability combinations with the means to improve them over time * Every level up providing stat increases * Equipment that can modify the gameplay or stats * Means to find equipment, or resources to improve equipment out in the world through drops or vendors * A coherent and decent narrative that is character-driven through Clive. It may not resonate with what you want, nor does it heavily use RPG mechanics. But it having 0 RPG mechanics? That's certainly false.
No. That would be Final Fantasy Mystic Quest! Mind you Mystic Quest is a better game than FF13, 15, or 16. But Mystic Quest is the simplest Final Fantasy title by far. I prefer turn based RPGs. Strategy is way more important to me than flashy graphics. I'd say Octopath Traveler is a far superior game to any of the new Final Fantasy titles..
Brevity is the soul of wit and FFT was the master at this, hardly any of its cutscenes last for longer than 5 mins but it says everything it needs to while maintaining a dark tone (not that it really matters). FF16 is the complete opposite and the story isn't good enough like it is in FF14's later xpacs to justify the cutscene spam.
It’s an imperfect mix definitely could’ve cut down the cutscenes and ramp up the combat but yea the switch back n forth tones is crazy especially with the whole magic bears being the oppressed ones
@Lee-km7qq Because they turn to stone if they use too much of their magic. They're tools and play-things. Used as fodder for their war. They're no less as strong as regular people who just simply use crystals for magic.
@@roussounmanman I mean sure, maybe? If one of the bearers ever did get fed up enough to be able to avoid detection by literally everyone and escape for long enough to start an arson-streak, maybe with wooden houses they could set some fires but in big cities where the buildings clearly aren't made of wood but stone it might be more difficult. If anyone sees you without a master you'll most likely get reported and cut down by guards if they find out about what you're doing. Full-scale riots might work better but bearers are beaten and abused so badly they don't even want to fight, like the ones Clive and Jill saved in Dhalmekia.
Call me a 25 year old boomer but games truly used to be better in the past, all of the AAA shit we get nowadays is worth fuck all, and we hardly get any lower budget games anymore. And indies sure as fucking hell don't fill that gap/hole.
I cannot believe I'm saying this, but Final Fantasy XV is way more Final Fantasy than this game. You have party members you can command and control, different types of weapons, an MP system, status ailments, phoenix downs, enemies with various weaknesses and strengths, better value in exploration, summons you can actually SUMMON!, etc. All the things this game doesn't have. XV is still very mid, but XVI makes XV look like a masterpiece in comparison. I almost regret selling it now, and I only sold it because of Stranger of Paradise coming out and being way better than both of these games. I mean, you talk about the lack of a combo meter in XVI which I think is a fatal flaw in it's combat system, XV HAS A COMBO METER, and it actually rewards you by increasing your damage more output the longer you kept it up, which is what this game desperately needs.
I will just say as far as powerful beings being enslaved and not fighting back, didn’t inFamous also do the same thing with the Conduits? I feel like I’ve seen it a few times in media.
Yes but that was not until Second Son where a government organization led by a conduit herself was just capturing and imprisoning them, and they were kept in a state where they couldn't access their powers at all, but I don't think enslavement was ever involved though, but in InFamous 1 and 2 there wasn't a plot point about conduits being captured or enslaved by ordinary people because people were still new to the concept of them existing in the first place. Speaking of which, I want InFamous 1 and 2 remastered for current-gen, please!
Yes, we've all seen that in Naruto as well. Demon hosts were used as dissuasive weapons and generally enslaved by the village but the series handled it better because sometimes the hosts were close to Kage themselves and/or independent but willing to help their people. It was justified by the lack of control of the host over the demon and the fact that the demon was sealed. I think this trope is also used a lot in superhero comics. Once again, most of the time, the enslaving authority generally uses specific objects or elements to counter the powers. Which is not the case in this FF.
The only reason Jill was subservient was because the Ironblood kingdom had magic restricting cuffs on her the bulk off the time. Besides that the other dominants do as they please. The bearers can only use basic tier magic and the more they use the faster they turn to stone and that won't do much against an army.
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 but people she loved were held hostage on the island. Haven't you seen how one dude at the beginning of the game was going to kill the young girl if jill didnt do what they want? Its like you people just dont want to understand the story and just want to spout bs like your overlord synthetic man. 😒
@@guyc1479 of course they do not pay any attention if its easier to just shit on the game. Their overlord synthetic man says its boring so they assume its boring for them too without even trying to understand. So stupid and ignorant.
I still recommend this game. It's one of those game that could make or break depending on whether you are invested in the characters or story or not. For me it's very engaging, haven't found a game this engaging for years, better than the new Gow ragnarok and last of us 2. Am surprised by it in a good way.
Absolutely. I quite enjoyed the combat, mostly as a DMC fan, games like this are usually easy. It's getting Super Sexy Style which is the hard part. (Or at least looking that good)
I feel like if a player was not playing for youtube audience or streaming and not worried about cut scene length they would enjoy the story more. Sometimes there is nothing better then kicking back for a weekend and enjoying some chill fantasy story games, maybe they should have released this in winter for max comfiness.
Yeh it's pretty well paced. Side quests stretch it out a bit much but they are optional and hit/miss. Some action sequences lean too hard into anime but they are fun to play. I mean... That's basically it. That's my balanced take without going too far into the deep end in either end like this youtuber does lol
I wanted to watch the stream but the fact it's a final fantasy game stopped me because unless synth started drinking I ain't got time for this boring bs
I thought this story was pretty good, enough to move from Demo -> Purchase in the same week. But I get the criticisms of this game, I just happen to enjoy my experience so far.
I didnt mind the mix of goofy and dark, that s why I love 7, and many other japanese stuff. Yet I knew the man wouldn't bear that. Though compared to GoW square didnt indulge too much into woke bullshit which is refreshing.. Also I think some of the epicness of late game is unmatched, cutscenes and eikon battles. But he won't know.. FF have always been about twisted narrative, this fits this era of "movie game type. Maybe not the gamer experience but compared to watching Netflix, I think it's fair. 7 remake felt quite the same, with the added value of playing with existing lore. Rebirth got me hyped just based on story.
I enjoyed the demo so I think I might buy it to decide for myself. I have to take Synths take with a grain of salt because I enjoy lots of things he hates.
I agree. Even though i tend to dislike the sony story walking simulator type games this one i somehow really like. It might just be the s tier voice acting and decent (as far as ive played) writing
I don’t mind cut scenes if they are good. And in this case the story is so important that you cannot dismissed them in any way. You shouldn’t play every game as they were the same. And in this case cut scenes are the game as much as the pure gameplay.
@@VenomGamingCenter huh? He said cut secene heavy games are ok as long as the cutscenes are good. Then you said: "except the story/cutscenes arent good" implying you agreed with him but dont think the story/cutscenes are good enough. Then you just contradict yourself and say generally "movie games are boring". Which is it? how did you manage to contradict yourself in only two sentences?
@@mrhockeyplayer909 do you lack reading comprehension? Because you clearly didn't read the OP properly, or what I responded with. So your point about any contradiction is moot until you learn to read properly.
Massively enjoyed the game. That being said, I can see it's flaws. I feel like if the story doesn't suck you in within the first few hours there probably is nothing here for you. I enjoyed the gameplay but there are more intricate engaging action combat systems out there. DMC, Bayonetta and Nier to name a few. Again I really enjoyed the game but it's not a surprise toe it's polarising.
Seems like im hearing both "its a final fantasy game, what did you expect" and "its an action game not a typical final fantasy game, what did you expect" used to defend the games short comings. Feels kind of weird to stick with both arguments and not one. Like to pick and choose which ff design decisions shouldn’t be criticized. Seems like theres a lot of good in the game but also a clash of ideals that dont exactly result in a perfect end product.
defiantly agree with the lack of gameplay i enjoy the combat just wish there was more wish they had optional dungeons in some of the areas. although i can't belive it im actually really enjoying it and i hate most modern games if you didn't have a smile playing the bahamut and titan fights their is something wrong hope square make a straight up action game i hope they make a game thats just the kaiju fights and have it been mostly gamplay and about 10 hours that would be perfect.
Yeah they should have fully committed to it being an action game without all the filler. Basically just the main quest minus some filler and cutscenes. Structured differently and it would be a good action game.
Basically the devs decided to appeal to a broader audience by trying to make it like one of those awful “sony movie” games that are so popular nowadays. It’s barely even a final fantasy game.
If clive is best character and he's boring to listen to, then why bother? Jack from stranger of paradise is fun because he's too deep into hunting CHAOS that he ignores a girl who suggested CHAOS might be just a fairytale and listening to his limp bizkit song while leaving the castle then stops to tell her CHAOS is real. Whatever you think of story, Jack's personality could carry the story for how unhinged he is regarding CHAOS. If you have boring guy as lead character, he could have the deepest backstory and i won't care a single minute because he's that unappealing and that's how i feel about clive.
The main cutscenes are great. The side quest cutscenes....oh man. At least there are the ones you can skip through as fast as you can read the text but my Lord.
I can tolerate it if there's a lot of gameplay. FFXIV has a lot of cutscenes and dialogue. But it pays off tremendously and rewards you for you time with incredible emotionally satisfying moments. There is also plenty of combat and stuff to grind for gear, appearance stuff, and mounts.
Spoken like someone who has never played a Final Fantasy game before... just because ONE game has a hole bunch of cutscenes, doesn't mean this has been a staple of the series... mgs style cutscenes are not a staple of FF Games.
@beezusHrist I've played 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6. I've beaten 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 16. The only one that wasn't dialogue or cutscene heavy was 1. Not sure what you're talking about lol
@ugeenroadelie 4 isn't "dialogue" or cutscene heavy. 5 isn't "dialogue" or cutscene heavy. 6 isn't "dialogue" or cutscene heavy. Even though 7 OG has FMVs, they're never too long, and it certainly isn't "dialogue heavy". 8 is the same as 7. 9 is the same as 7. It is only when we get to 10 is where we get the more expanded stuff. Same with 12. And by 13, the game is overwhelming with nonsensical dialogue and cutscenes. 14 of course is a MMO and the cutscenes are essentially the game. 15 is trash and then we arrive at 16 which is very similar to 13 with how on-rails everything is. I think you need to go back and play those older games because it seems like you are misremembering things as people often do.
I already finished the game. Most of the time you will be watching a cutscene, doing shitty main quests that play like a side quest or fighting very easy mobs. The only fun parts are when you fight the Dominants or the Final Boss, which aren't a lot. There wasn't any time invested on gameplay for this game. The only time story peaks is in the prologue, from there is a slow downhill until the second half of the game, where the downhill just becomes quicker. I'm actually really sad because this game cost me 114 dollars after taxes and I was saving money for art supplies. I'm fucking dumb. I hope CBU3 never touches mainline FF again.
Yeah no one ever wants to talk about the fact that Clive killed his own brother lol. Like it was very obvious to anyone who saw any gameplay trailers or showcases that Clive is Ifrit. Him yelling "I'll kill you" had me like, alright go ahead and put that sword through through your skull because you did that shit lol.
Skill up is shitting on the game cuz it's not woke enough dude, you hear 1 reviewer giving ff16 the stick for not having black people, and suddenly the game has flaws now in thier eyes, yes both of you have the same reasons to hate the game but do you really think his was gonna be thier review if ff16 was "inclusive" enough?
The writing in this game is laughably awful. One second the guy is saying "shit" and "fuck" and the next he's talking like he's out of Shakespeare. It's sad how low a brand like Final Fantasy has fallen. Not even a RPG anymore...
I was amazed by the spectacle during my first play through, but even then, I did notice there was too much filler, specially with most side quests. I think the gameplay also suffers from too much simplicity. Final Fantasy games usually have a lot of strategy to them, you don't have to every time, but it can make some battles a lot harder if you don't use certain items, skills or gear. I wish we got a chance to control more of the main characters even if it was only some of the time like we did with young Joshua. I did like the story even though it had several valleys. I also liked some of the mystery left untold, but wish they had side quests that revealed a bit more about the characters and mysteries the world, a dungeon or two with more information about the past history or Leviathan would have been great, or maybe a way to gain the "water" Eikon. (not that water would do anything, but we'd at least have more skills to play with) I like some of the off beat elements in the FF games like mini games which I missed. I think they were trying to appeal to too many people so it feels a bit disjointed. That said I do think it has enough to make it worth playing even if it is flawed.
The funniest parts of the streams were when it's been 40 minutes of boring dialogue, then once you finally get control back. Immediately another 20 minute cutscene about nothing.
"action game" lmao
I tried genshin impact and quit because of that exact reason I hate this fuckimg trend in games.
How daring, aren't we, today?
@@ExtremeMan10disregard the hours of gameplay to suit your “criticism” lmao
@@HHTwice There is no reason for any cutscene to be longer than two minutes.
Shill up actually had free thought for once these are truly strange times.
I wonder where are all those weebs screaming how will Japan save video game industry.
He can be critical because woke wankers actually hate the game aswell (because white males and no representation)
Skill Up is amazing in what he's doing, but he purposefully avoids any woke related topics, like that the entire industry has become anti straight white male centric, just like the film industry, but he never acknowledges any of that, which really annoys me.
free thought = thoughts i agree with
@@lucy-pero Not true Skill up pretty much always agrees with the popular opinion much like Yawn Yea, hence the title Shill up.
While I may not agree with most of your points on your videos, I appreciate the existence of a channel who is willing to speak their mind without worrying about what most people think.
Stunning and Brave
No but really, us autismos also need representation in review media and this channel fills that hole perfectly.
He’s just a contrarian, quit jerking him off.
I wanna go and play Sekiro because how boring this game is
I love how backhanded this comment is just for the sake of admitting your opinions are all shit
Most anti-trend youtubers express controversial opinions to get views. Synthetic Man is honest even to a fault at times. Hard not to like the guy considering how close to a regular dude he seems to be and not just some clout chasing gen-z moron.
Metal Gear Rising was INCREDIBLE. Just a shoutout to a great game and honestly in that clip is looks next gen even today.
I laughed my ass off watching you play this. Every time you complained about a cutscene another played lmao
Being Synth is suffering.
You know , back then were cutscenes in games like a reward for the tough gameplay but nowadays its the opposite. You are rewarded with gameplay after you watched huge amounts of cutscenes. . Gaming is totally screwed .
@@Snyperwolf91MGS is the only good moviegame.
@@SIGNOR-Glike the ones from Fallout 4?
@@amadeusagripino6862 😏
For a director who worked on dmc in the past I'm shocked there's not attacks based on directional inputs.
You worked on DMC??
@@reivax7022 Are you dumb?
I’m also staggered that there are eight different unique elements and yet not a single mechanic for elemental affinity, or difference in spells. Fire doesn’t cause DoT, wind doesn’t lift, lightning doesn’t chain, ice doesn’t freeze, dark doesn’t blind, stone doesn’t stagger or petrify etc.
@Evanz111 Yeah it's weird. Testing out each element's charged projectiles, they all do the same exact damage number to enemies. Why even have all these different elements if none of them have unique properties. No affinities or option to exploit enemy resistance at all. Why is there not a burn meter filling up when I'm doing fire combos? Am ice meter should be slowing enemies down. Darkness should be making an enemy attack itself and/or other enemies in combat.
@@n30n66 wha
So basically FF has still never recovered from 13 lmao
*10
@@BL-mf3jp Nah, this stagger meter shit wasn't plaguing Final Fantasy before FF13
@@Palindrome3945 but the cutscene heavy focus and awful voice acting was
@@BL-mf3jp Yes. Vanille being the OG "can't translate properly in english so just moan through it" girl.
I don't think lore, in and of itself is an issue, I'd even argue that extremely well thought out and compelling world building is nothing but a benefit. Rather, I think how "lore" is used by modern writers is the real problem.
When used correctly, it functions like fries in a fast-food order. Ideally it slots in seemlessly with your burger and drink, and after you're done your meal, you might find some fries at the bottom of the bag - a little extra treat you weren't expecting.
The way modern writers tend to use it is like a crutch or a bandaid for incompetent writing. They make bad creative decisions and try to excuse them by pointing to something outside of the story as justification. Take Destiny for example. It basically put the key points of its story on a bloody website instead of the actual game.
If your story requires material outside of itself to make sense, then it's a bad story. Go rewrite it.
Agreed. I think lore is best when it is set dressing for a story, not the story itself. FFX had all of its lore delivered practically without the need for menus and such. The world had history in FFX but you were shown this in the level design. Tidus asked the same questions the player would likely want to ask, and the rest could be found organically by talking to NPCs. You only got as much lore as you needed to understand what was happening, and the delivery of that lore was tight and scaled with your level of interest to seek it out. Too many contemporary stories spend way too much time including everything possible in any way they can, text or no. It becomes boring.
@@12ealDealOfficial A perfect example of game writers/devs being beyond retarded is Destiny 2, where the lore of the game is absolutely god-tier, with really interesting scenes and shit going on that is nowhere even CLOSE to what is going on in the main stories or side content, I don't know how this happens but in most large scale world games there's a ton of super super interesting lore, but the actual main plot or side content is absolutely mind numbingly boring
Correct and justified. Destiny (rather, Bungie) did a horrible job of incorporating lore when it was necessary. I love Destiny but it is a severely flawed franchise (not that fans will ever admit that).
Looking at you, Fromsoftware
FFXV and FFXIII had the exact same problem and it's baffling how Square Enix keeps repeating the same mistakes over and over again
I play Yakuza games which are cutscene heavy but they compliment the gameplay and don’t put my ass to sleep or make me wanna stop playing.
A great thing the Yakuza series does is having Control over the pacing of the story, don't want to continue the main story? Try exploring the city for some side activities, then you find a side story organically by you deciding to explore rather than getting some NPC giving you a waypoint to start another slow paced cutscene that you can't skim through because it's voiced.
Yakuza games have horrible gameplay and level design too, and the story is full of mistakes.
@@divaythfyr5619nah
They're mostly boring, mundane and tiresome...some of them are good, but mostly not.
Great moments though, just not enough.
@jAK73 Yakuza games pretty much have non existent level design. The combat and AI. Has barely evolved since the Ps2 original, save U7's repetitive Diet Dragon Quest combat. These are hard facts.
Tell me you just got into Yakuza games, without telling me.
For the record, the "negativity" of your videos aren't bad. It's better to know exactly what's wrong with a game than sugercoat its flaws, shout mindless praise, and unconditionally give it a score of 9 or higher.
Plus, there is just less to say when discussing positives. You can describe the combat, and then say it's good. Okay. It's the mistakes that actually generate commentary and criticism, even if it's mostly good.
i dont know sometimes its overblown. I love his videos but when he came at legend of zelda i was like cmon that game is AMAZING., yes there was ALOT of zeldas story etc but it was so good i did not care. There are some games you cant even say were awful even though he did not at all say it was awful but he went negative on a few points.
@@mooserocka522it's always overblown
@@BWMagusthat's the dumbest thing I have ever read
NO! He's gotta have the same opinion as me on the games I like! Otherwise, he's just an angry nerd and probably some kind of bigot!
If Skillup was right then we truly are living in the darkest of times! Tbh I’m getting tired of Sony’s interactive movie games. Not everything needs a ten minute exposition cutscene. Just let me play!
he was not tho. Synth is just a bitter black pilled and /v/ poisoned
What did Skillup say? A link to a video would be nice.
@@headshotmaster138 Your you tube search bar broken?
Facts!
@@davidd4696 You wish.
Bro Maximilian Dood kept shilling for this 🚮 game just because he got a sponsorship, meet the developers and went to a concert with them. 😂
So he kept trying to make people in his fanbase to buy it.
But when people told him the game sucks he kept saying it’s fun but now in a recent stream he says he won’t play that game again or he won’t play the new dlc for it because he didn’t really like it.😂
Yea. SE gotta realize their games are decent at best nowadays and only their legacy fans buy their games....so they should stop alienating them
In the very episode he completed it, Max immediately said he rated XV higher than XVI.
keep in mind he's still singing REbirths praises despite even Square calling it a let down lol... dude lost his way long ago.
@@jsullivan649 to be fair, Square ALWAYS sets unrealistic sales goals. At least Rebirth was good.
@@StriderZessei I hear that about their sales goals, but no, it’s objectively very bad.
It’s nearly 1.3m less sales than remake, and after the reception of rebirth…. Part 3 is shaping up to be another huge loss in sales.
I miss Gears of War: Funny and engaging characters sharing banter between each other while completely still immersed in gameplay. Cool weapons (the torque bow) great graphics, great in game set pieces. Man, online was incredible to. Gaming is dead.
Gears of war is still around though. Just play Gears 5 it really isn't bad or anything.
Play Earth Defence Force 5 (preferably co-op). You won't be saying 'Gaming is dead' after that.
@@1trevor30Nah . Gears 1-3 are the only best ones .
Tbh , i prefer more variation in game genres , writing-styles and focused tones/atmossphere/themes instead of "bring back that one thing to milk it harder till its insufferable again " -approach.
The problem is the trends shouldnt dominating design-philosophies because thats why we end up with gaming that we got today .
If gaming should improve after this woke-pocalypse then it should have much more variety of game-designs and approaches instead generalising everything into few samey genres .
You know what reasonable people say :" Variety is the spice of life ."
Funny? Gears of war? Are you 12?
I seriously miss turn-based RPGs. Even though the systems were the result of technical limitations, they had this unique thrill and level of suspense that real time action games can't quite replicate.
Battles were almost like puzzles, with the added benefits of nail-biting tension and glorious spectacle.
EDIT: I'm not arguing that the original turn-based RPG formula was flawless. Of course it had issues; the most obvious of which were excessive grindiness and random encounters. I doubt anyone believes these mechanics were a net positive.
I'm simply stating that, when at their best, turn-based RPG battles could be pulse-pounding games of cat-and-mouse mixed with chess. I personally haven't played a real-time action game that truly manages to give me that same feeling. Not even "Combat Puzzle" games like Doom Eternal.
Sea of Stars has a demo and it's got me excited for the first time for an JRPG style game in a long time.
@@justsumCrumbs Sea of Stars.....kinda sounds like some sort of Star Ocean
plenty of turn based rpgs released today thankfully.
At least _this_ game finally commits to being a proper action game, with DMC style combat. That feels like a *massive* improvement over decades of god-awful action/menu hybrids which were always clunky and terrible (I'm looking at you: FF7 Remake).
I'm like you: I never had an issue with turn-based RPGs. I also like DMC/Platinum action games. What I could never abide was the middle ground.
Yoship is the reason why FF isn't turn-based. Everything he touches ends up removing gameplay.
one more annoying thing for me is when u dont do any more damage during your combo because its cutscene time
Yes indeed! When they are staggered and you have to wait for the cutscene to come because you can't do any more damage..
We will eventually get one of those "bonus games" on a DVD menu that you play with a TV remote, but unironically intended to be a real game
Just admit you can't afford a ps5 man ahah
@@cerulean8201 Don't need a ps5, ps2 plays DVDs just fine and they aren't $70.
Point proven
@@cerulean8201it's not a flex to say you pay full price for a ps5
@@FlamespeedyAMV just proving ny point. People are watching one ass review and basing their entire opinion of the game on that.
Though I am considering getting this game, I do like that you don’t shy away from being honest and giving us your upfront takes on media that is hyped up to hell and back. It helps me to temper my expectations when trying out new things, people give you crap for it, but if anything I want more channels to be candid with their content and tell me if something sucks or not.
Play Final Fantasy 7 remake first
Most people are controlled by confirmation bias - they just want their preconsived notions approved. On the other side of that is cognitive dissonance. For a lot of people it's a very unplesent feeling so they attack/discredit/ignore anyone who chalanges their biases. I just wander what will they say once the hypy dies down. FF13 was praised after launch as well, now it's considered the black sleep of the series😂
@@SimonGreyGhoston the other side media is also full of people that wants to just hate on stuff, it's not a one way road.
I love this game and it's not due to recency bias.
There is certain things that could have been improved but as a whole I'm having more fun with this than most modern games out there and that's coming from someone that spent more time in multiplayer games than single player games.
There is another guy just as jaded as he is: WorthaBuy. These two are pretty spot on in terms of highlighting flaws in games and not caring about the rest of society and what it thinks it cool. For games to truly advance we have to identify biases. Only a few reviewers are good at it. SKill up is pretty good but there is that feeling that as a channel gets more popular the move away from being cynical and more friendly to industry people starts to creep up. This is the path of most youtube people who rely on this as their main income. This is why corporate side to gaming pisses me off. At some point everyone turns into access media guy that is not self aware of the corruption. These giant companies need kick in the butt to remind them we want gaming to advance not stay stagnant. And the bigger the game industry gets the more corporate it gets and the more greedy and powerful it gets which allows them to ignore real criticism. (they reach the "too big to fail" status and don't give a sh1t if the product is bad because so many young people will still buy the stuff regardless. EA is perfect example of that)
Brilliant comment.
Finally a game to finally surpass Metal Gear Solid 4! (In total amount of cutscenes)
At least the MGS4 cutscenes were more fun to watch
That is such a lie mgs4 cutscenes we're so dragged out compared to gameplay sections it's not even funny
Xenoblade Chronicles (any game): AMATEURS.
You are not "too hard on modern video games"
Modern gaming has become cancer. Honestly, I don't mind long cutscenes (as long as the gameplay is there). But, the story is not worth slogging through it anymore...
Doomer mentality.
@@dib327 sadly everything has been doomed. I'm just taking off the rose colored glasses. I watched as gaming plummeted from the richness of fallout 1/2, system shock, original bioshock, prince of Persia (for those platform lovers. I don't), new vegas, battlefield 2, diablo 2 original, and so forth.
Younger kids only by 10 years but enough to not have played or experienced these games always get uppity when people criticize modern gaming. Just like the film industry, gaming has taken a major fall.
No more originality, risk taking, or heart put into games. Everything is now streamlined for the average moron who thinks mobile games make him a gamer. The industry wants to appeal to everyone and creates a mediocre, banal product.
@@dib327naive kid who never even got to experience the good times. I pity you
the desert section of this game is good, but there's not much else to say
Your channel is top tier in the gaming community. I think you’re the only one who speaks their mind with 100% honesty
He’s the only one with his head completely up his own ass
This was my favorite video I hated ff16 for being so white and glad he did not like it either, ff16 will not have good sales
@@worp4406so white?
@@donaldtrump2728 lmao that's the only thing that caught ur eye 😂
@@worp4406 I just don’t know what you mean
Feels like only yesterday you dropped your last video! Happy to see the more frequent uploads. I know you mentioned you weren't sure how people might react to your slightly revised editing style, but I can tell you it's still spot on.
We need a Trepang2 review. Just enough story to take you from fight to fight with some of the most visceral and enjoyable gunplay ever designed. Gameplay is king.
That game deserves WAY more attention! They should bring it to consoles ASAP!
He’ll never do it because it’s a good indie game, which doesn’t exist according to him
@@klown463he plays indie games all the time he just doesn't review them because there's very little real interest in them
And i actually like the story too. You don't need to reinvent the wheel or anything. Just good story would do for game with great gameplay.
@@yirawls Approaching 2000 reviews in 1 week on Steam (still overwhelmingly positive) is quite good for an indie + it's not too far down the top sellers list. Gman's Trepang video is almost at half a mil views in 8 days. More views than some of his 6 month old videos for bigger games.
I think it would be great to see a "rapid review" style video for some indies that deserve attention, "focus on fun", and don't have an agenda. 0 pozzed ESG "woke" garbage. Made by a small team of white and asian dudes as all games should be.
Plus, it would just be a nice change of pace to hear our boy Synthetic actually enjoy something too lol. A little break from the blackpilling can be nice.
I’m surprised to see the sales numbers are low, all I’ve come across are articles saying it eclipsed tears of the kingdom.
Sales numbers aren’t bad but they are not even close to TOTK sales
“The only people who are going to like this game are people with low story telling standards”
I face palmed and was like legit everyone…
I'm tired of games being more movie than games. I was replaying the Witcher 3 from beginning and I forgot how slow the beginning was. Still great, but I've lost my patience with super long story games.
Yeah I I keep a save just as you go to skelige/break out dandelion or I will get to bored to finish it.
Bud movie games have been around for decades ever since they made the ps1 and Xbox with halo and stuff
Things that would help the game imo. Adding in more sword combos like dmc, making the chocobo a reward for main story missions so people don’t miss it, make torgul combat automatic, some skins, better side quest rewards, just to name a few
...better side quest all around
scrapping and rewriting the entire story would also make things a bit better.
Any time a desert is featured in a game I know this is the "thin content zone" because obviously its a desert theres supposed to be nothing in it
Really wish there were more rpg mechanics. The eicons being the summons are the only thing that feels like FF.
I didn't appreciate FF12 until I played the Zodiac edition on PS4. The world building and scope was amazing. Now I just want another "jrpg" with a system similar to the gambit system. Grinded for hours on end while tweaking the gambits. Couldn't even finish FF15.
@@arkeshn729 12 had pretty shit world-building. But yes, it had scope; everything is fucking big because...reasons. I never understood the appeal of gambits; I don't understand people who complain about this optional aspect either, but I'd rather play the game than work obsessively to make the game play itself for me.
@@arkeshn72915 wasn't good anyways, if you ever thought you were going to get a good game from that then I don't know what you were thinking.
I read somewhere that this game has approximately 11hrs of cutscenes lol. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know
It's 20 HOURS OF CUTSCENES
@@checkthisout7616 nuh uh
I don't know why people constantly desire to conflate unwillingness to watch cutscenes with short attention span. When i play game i want to play, not watch .
I don't mind cutscenes. They're necessary when you want characters to interact in ways that aren't possible through in-game gameplay.
But there needs to be a proper ratio with gameplay being dominant. These days it doesn't feel like that with a lot of games. Hades for example tells the story through gameplay
Its the spirits within again. SQUARE not comprehending what their franchize is all about.
I lay somewhere in the middle, I actually think the combat is really fun and the main story is good and clives pretty likable. I do however agree with you about the sheer frequency of cutscenes being fucking ridiculous and I personally skipped all side dialogue.
The fucked up part is that it didn't have so many cutscenes and better side quests it'd be one of the best ffs ever lol
This is what I was afraid of.
I can't believe they actually slapped the XVI on this and made it part of the mainline series. FF has traditionally offered so much more, with compelling casts, and side quests that actually felt important. They should have labeled this as a spin off. Even then, the sheer amount of cutscenes would still be a problem, especially in an action game.
In your opinion, was XV any better?
@@oribt1 yes, it was open world had alot more to do than this one, different outfits, different weapons, dungeons, dlc.
@@buttertoast1146 Interesting, most reviews by people I've heard say that 15 was not good and that 16 made a comeback to the series.
@@oribt1 ehh I've seen alot of people on Reddit say they liked 15 more. The royal edition.
15 was awful , the combat sucked and the story was awful
WOW LOOK AT THAT COMBAT.
Where i cant see it with all those effects.
I'm so mad at square enix. I finished it in 18!!! Hours.
There is nothing to explore. No RPG at all, not even level up, come on, you get 3 attack and hp, wow, enemies not?
Craft weapon, +3ad, buy new one, +10.
It had so much potential...but it's super boring.... I don't know. Everything was there...i am so mad....hard to rate, some things are a 10 or 9, many a 7 but a lot of 0s too since it simply is missing. No Party, no loot, i did not even collect anything shiny, for what. Gosh so mad
18? They you skipped through most of the story bro, So side quests, Yeah at start they felt like boring but as you follow through they get better, You also get Permanent upgrades of it.
I pre-ordered game played and then got bored of it and stop playing until few days ago after I finished Rebirth, I picked this game up and realise I was playing it wrongly, Now I even brought DLC of it.
@@formanga8871 nope, not true. I did not Skip a thing. Did sides at the beginning...but for what? +5 hp? Nope. At last i went straight through the main, yes
@@sanji1259 Do late game quest, That's give perma upgraded.
The gameplay is complete and utter trash, square enix failed hard on 15 and 16
@@kingcarplipsJfs the gameplay is the only thing that is truly great. It's the Devil mat cry dude who designed it. 15 is one of my favorites, because despite it's flaws it had a great story and character development
I don't know how you can play an action game that is 70% cutscene..
At what point are you not playing a game so much as watching a tv show.
He’s lying he did not play the game all the way he only played it for 15 hours the cutscenes are 20 hours yes but there’s 50 hours of gameplay left you’re just blindly following this bad review
@@thegamewin100 the game is less than 35 hours long. Copium.
@@JillValentine2013 35h if you rush like some idiot. i have 60+ hours in the game (54h when i beat it) and now am doing the ng+ playthrough. dude played 15 hours, what a joke. putting up a review while not having playthe whole game is far worse than IGN, lmao. it reminds me when IGN played only route A in re2remake and not B and called it a day. synthetic man is getting lazier and lazier.
@@foulXD eh.
Their only good game this year has been Octopath 2 which is basically a good classic FF game
it was ok. the story is extremely boring and the characters are aswell. the gameplay is good tho. but if they're putting so much story into the game, and even voice at some of it, make a great story. FFXVI has a bit too many cutscenes but at least the story is great, just like the gameplay. also its not even "a classic FF game". its literally braverly default with different graphics, stop fooling yourself.
I regret paying full price.
Me too 😭
"It's all in reverse now. Back in the day, in the PlayStation 1 era the CGI cutscenes was well received and appraised because two things: the spectacle factor and by giving context to the story. Gameplay was (and still is) the king and as such it was treat just like that.
Now, you must to bear with the broken, nonsensical, subpar anime/manga writing to be able to play the damn game. And that if the gameplay is good enough to worth that time. Like you said: the save the best bits to the demo, baiting enough people to later delivers the kick in your gaming ballz.
This can possibly be the final nail in the Final Fantasy franchise, thanks for the lack of touch from the Square-Enix suits. What shame."
Yup I’m sure a possible game of the year winner is gonna end the franchise.
@@Abraun897 don't be ridiculous.
Final Fantasy is already dead.
What we are witnessing is it's decaying corpse.
Putting the Final Fantasy X song "To Zanarkand" in the beginning gives your video far more feels than I think you intended lol.
Man, i can´t wait for the FFX Remake in 2045. It´s the best RPG overall, a masterpiece!
@@kenshigo3833 No thanks, they gonna mess that up just like FF7 Refake.
@@kenshigo3833 They already remastered FFX and they did quite a lazy job at it.
The PS2 version unironically looks better.
Further I would be worried that they wouldn't keep the turn based combat. I just don't like new Final Fantasy combat.
@@darken2417still annoys me when I play the "remaster" to see those creepy doll faces. Luckily I have my PS2 and emulator if I'm feeling nostalgic. FF7 Remake "classic" mode pretty let us og fans know that we'll have to play games like Octopath Traveler and Bravely Default if we want turn based SquareEnix RPGs.
@@arkeshn729
Yep the remaster faces are pretty bad.
Their excuse is that they wanted the faces to look more like how they looked in the cinematics, not something that wasn't possible in the PS2 era but of course this then made them look like different characters.
I'd prefer it to just be all turn-based or all non-turn based and no special modes. Parallel mechanics take dev time away from everything else.
And of course a classic mode won't have the same depth and attention to detail as if the game was built completely around turn-based combat.
The only reason lore exists is so that cringe TH-camrs like Vatti can make hundreds of videos like "xxxx explained", "prepare to xxx", "The complete timeline of xxx", "xxx is deeper than you thought, here is why", "The philosophical themes behind xxx"
It’s all so predictable and lame.
the lore isn't even good. It's just SMT with sprinkles of leftism.
Lore has existed in games decades before TH-camrs were even a thing lol. It's purpose is to add extra detail to the world in addition to the main narrative of the game's story. TH-camrs just found a way to capitalize on it by making those videos.
@@PeteyPirahna77 and yet modern lore does nothing but create dissonance between what we see with our own eyes and what we read.
I really enjoyed this game. And I usually can't stand games with long cut scenes. And yes, there are WAY too many cut scenes that go on for far too long. That is definitely true. But the bosses are insanely good in this game. A lot of them are very cinematic, but I really enjoyed them personally.
The bosses just get better and better
It's balanced fine 😂 don't get brainwashed
The titan boss was ok. But it's like it's on rails with quick time events.
It's a very PS2 era feeling cinematic action like the original GOW series mixed with MGS length cutscenes, complete with an edgy and brooding male protagonist and over the top bad guys.
It's honestly a breath of fresh air in comparison to the other cinematic action slop with ESG crap we've been getting.
@@matthewgregory2106 lol true the qte way too easy. Not a big deal imo
that's actually hilarious. i was watching an asmongold stream and he was playing this game, i only watched like 30min and instantly knew i wont buy this. cutscene after cutscene.
When it comes to the ungodly amount of cutscenes in this game yoshi p. Was the director for FF16 if you don't know who that is he's the guy who rebooted FF14 into what it is and I played 14 for about 4 ish years and that game is incredibly dialogue/cutscene heavy which explains why FF16 has 20 hours worth of cutscenes as for everything else idk I haven't played the game yet and I'm pretty hesitant to start anytime soon
i haven’t gotten my hands on FF16 but i am currently caught up to FF14. I thought (aside from ARR) there wasn’t a single moment where i felt dissapointed by the cutscenes, especially going into Shadowbringers and Endwalker every cutscene was fucking spectacular. i wonder what happened to 16
14’s story put me to sleep but i enjoyed 16’s. maybe it was just the swearing and the violence
Just want to add one thing: Hugo was screaming like a maniac because Benediktas head was in the box he got delivered there 😉
Do you really expect synthetic "ADD" man to pay attention at all? That dude is more cynical than my 80 year old grandpa and i thought it was impossible.
@@foulXD Cynical he is 😄 Old soul trapped in a young body. But nether the less, he should not have missed that!
May I ask where the ADD comes from?
@@IstvanThree ADD = attention deficit disorder
@@IstvanThreeall we can do is feel sorry for him and hope he gets better soon. This is no way to live
That's...not an explanation of why he was screaming like a maniac. If I started accusing you of adultery, and then justified it because I just stubbed my toe...yeah, that doesn't actually explain why I'm doing what I'm doing. That was cringey overacting and nothing else.
6:24 You can actually freeze enemies with Shiva, but yes, very limited statuses and missing basic elemental matchups
Synthetic man is not to brutal towards the gaming industry. Games today are all so shitty its unbelievable. Synthetic man is a nice bit of reality.
He kind of is and games today are not ALL shitty. He’s way too pessimistic
Yea keep this guys garbage takes in your head just terrible opinions which aren’t even your own you follower
@jeffali5157 name me one good game today and I can name at least 3 way better games from the 2000s
@@chadwhite6302 in this day and age, Metroid dread, Doom Eternal, God of war, Elden ring, Persona 5 Royale, Hollow Knight, Tears of the kingdom, Ghost of Tsushima, RE4 Remake, Genshin Impact, Nier replicant. And that’s just the tip of the ice berg. I like 2000s games as well and I got a list of them too, but they also had some bad apples as well so cut the pessimistic bs.
@jeffali5157 Re4 remake? Lol genshin impact? Elden ring? Doomed eternal? Ghost of tushima? What the hell are you talking about. You just listed games that are ok at best. Doom eternal is one of Bethesda worst games. Doom 3 was better and that was made 20 years ago. Genshin impact, ill just take that as a joke. Elden ring and ghosts are literally just worse clones than dark souls, and that game came out 15 years ago. Fuck the ninja giden series is almost better than any hack and slash you listed. Sorry we had Mass effect, Dead Space, Ratchet and Clank, dark souls, OG God of War, Oblivion, skyrim, Halo, Gears of War, Fallout, Fable, call of duty 4, Battlefield Bad Company 2, battlefield 3, mario n64, Devil may cry, Bayonetta, Ninja Giden, shadow of the clossos, super mario smash, portal, team fortress, counter strike, hell even bullestorm which was cheasy is better than some of the games you listed
It doesn't even look like a Final Fantasy. It just looks like a generic ooen world RPG that's _dark and gritty_
What’s crazy about this and Forspoken is that Squeenix was aiming for the western/American market with both releases. I think it’s speaks more to how Japan sees America and what America is exporting than anything else lmao.
Square Enix really does love to make painfully mid games
It's their new specialty
This game is not Final Fantasy
Exactly
Definitelty agree with your take on lore. I shouldn't be expected to read a bunch of outside resources they release after the fact just to make sense of a game's messy storyline.
If you aren't interested in the lore don't play the fucking game, simple...
You dont need to use the lore thing. Its just there for a reminder. The cast talk about what they are doing and why. The side quests, while a slog, do flesh out the world more.
Play the game before making these tired comments..the ATL, lore book, is NOT necessary, it's only there if you want extra lore/context
I didn’t read any lore and i understood it perfectly… maybe you’re just stupid. You also literally have the active lore function which is an ingame source
@@cerulean8201 If you have to be just an asshole in comments then don't comment, simple...
Even if I don't agree with all your points on games I have to say you very entertaining and I am never bored with your videos. You are very underrated and I hope you continue to grow.
As someone who agrees with most of your gaming takes, this is still a game I'll buy. I don't mind that this is a movie game, because the XIV devs can write some phenomenal fantasy stories and Soken is an amazing composer. Plus they are the biggest devs in the market that love Yasumi Matsuno's work (Vagrant Story, FF: Tactics).
Lmao absolute fucking shill. Story of XVI is garbage. I've met Nobuo and I have an FF tattoo. I have beaten every game from 1-10, and 12-15. Your god Yoshi P is trash and so is 14 and 16. Stop sucking his dick.
The music wasn’t that good
@@omensoffatethe music is deadass the best part
@@omensoffateLa Hee
Fresh reminder that Yong Yea is now the official English voice for Kazuma Kiryu...
@joaofernandes8164 YONG OUT
The hell?
@joaofernandes8164 Why would people even hear dubs? 8/10 they are straight up bad
Please tell this is a joke
I have never seen anyone, I mean anyone on twitch or youtube over the years, playing yakuza dubbed. I wasn't aware any of the games even had dubs, what would be the point in a game that is so focused on being Japanese?
I wish I saw this before I bought this game
Don't listen to this bozo
Same, this game sucks.
@@G-ManfromhalflifeSHUT delusional
THE GAME WAS KICKED OUT OF VEST GAME AWARDS
It's funny how different perceptions are. I find myself on the edge of my seat all the time. I love the story so far, the music, the combat is super fun. You actually don't have to read the active time lore to understand the full story tbh, it's more like a nice addition.
It’s too much for him his brain might burst from all the words in screen
he is just like a a shooter guys. they don't like most slow games and always complain about it.
@@brokensword2621this game isn’t even slow the combat is very fast paced
Or, you have very low story and narrative standards. Dominants and Bearers being enslaved had me eye rolling the ENTIRE game. It's GOT s08 levels of terrible.
@@roussounmanman Or, I don't have low narrative standards, and just understand that mankind is messed up and it's easy to suppress some stronger few if a majority of people believe it to be justified. But surely we won't find any examples of that in our *real life history*, amirite?
The one thing that bugged me incessantly was not being able to perform aerial combo's without using Garuda or phoenix. basically makes the gameplay more fluid and fun, so you will never part with them if you care for more versatile combat which makes it annoying to have to sacrifice fun for functionality and efficiency when it comes to harder hitting abilities.
Don’t forget you can ‘Master’ abilities you really like and then slot them into any Eikon. So you can equip Garuda but slot in Eikon abilities you’ve mastered from Bahamut or Titan, or vice versa. Just got upgrade the ability you like by spending the AP to master it.
skill issue
Use stomp bruh lmao
You actually can keep air combos easily just hold square with the mastered charged sword move you can cancel a lot of thing with the jump in the air too hope that helps
Burning blade is an ability you always have available
Good old times when games were games, thing you played, had control over it and actually interactive sandbox. Now its just movie.
Gotta play the right games
@@Bbimsoundrgrnd back then it was common, now you have to choose.
Final Fantasy 7
Time to beat: 37 hours
Cutscenes: 14 hours
FF16
Time to beat: 32 hours
Cutscenes. 17 hours (Gamersprey)
FF7 is considered the best of all time.
FF 10 46 hours, 10 hours cutscenes
MGS4 is considered a masterpiece, many cutscenes, just like TLOU. It´s nothing new, just more talked about.
@@ExtremeMan10 more games more choices
@@torchlight3173 doesn´t have cutscenes? are you kidding me? Stop being a hater, fanboy or whatever you are. scenes in which you don´t control a character are considered a cutscene here. you think FF16 has 20 hours of CGI scenes?? And 10 hours talking scenes + 2 hours playtime? wtf are you smoking?
This game is what Resident Evil would have been if they didn't split off Devil May Cry.
Great video. The game is kind of a weird hybrid between MMORPG (the semi open world and annoying quests), action game (well, the combat) and interactive movie. The action game part may be the fun part, but it's being paratized by the other parts. It's also quite sad that this game simply isn't a Final Fantasy. A mainline Final Fantasy - one of the greatest (J) RPG series of all time - is not an RPG. That's sheer madness. Square Enix sacrificed so much of the series' identity just to make the game suitable for a mass audience.
And most people don't seem to be calling them out for it, instead praising it, mainly due to being in the honeymoon phase, and OH PRETTY. Final Fantasy is simply dead.
@@roussounmanman No, it just changed. Dead for those that are obsessed with the turned based battle systems, sure. I grew up with those too, the original FF7 was my first final fantasy (and still my favorite, much prefer it to the trilogy of remakes that are coming which will pump each part with loads of filler to increase the game length, therefore ruining the pacing) - The reason I enjoyed FF7 wasn't the turn based battle system, it was the world, music, visuals, and story: so it doesn't matter to me that they have changed the battle system in recent final fantasies. While I feel bad for those who don't enjoy final fantasy's that aren't turned based and the series is seemingly dead for them, don't act like it's dead to the rest of us.
@@Vaquix000 I love turn based systems. I loved FFXVI’s battle system. The game is just incredibly mediocre. Style over substance.
The choice for narrative focused games is walking simulator or movie.
“Autistically screaming for no reason.” Um, sir, he just found the love of his wife’s HEAD IN A BOX. Lemme know how you’d take that one..
Pretty tough to say the story sucks when you don’t finish the game, you likely missed the entirety of the Dion stuff.
@@Abraun897 Don't expect much from this coomer brained nonce.
Good hack n slash games like Metal Gear Rising is great but I vouch for Ninja Gaiden, I like a little challenge and it's personally one of my favorite game series besides DMC and speaking of DMC, I recommend you play and review DMC5 since people compare it a lot to FFXVI. The game has its flaws which I won't spoil for you and it has a recap on the main menu and has got lesser cutscenes that aren't tedious. And because you have a PS5, you can get DMC5 Special Edition since it's a lot cheaper. I love hack n slash but overall, this genre itself used to be as popular as soulslikes, thankfully, Platinum Games are keeping it breathing with Bayonetta. Anyway, I love your content as it's a very honest gaming channel that encourages people to freely speak out their own opinions on games, keep up the great work!👍
certain types of games aren't for everyone. That's certainly the case with story driven rpg's, where telling a compelling, dense story is the first priority of the devs. Consuming the main narrative in a game like FF16 isn't unlike reading a book. You can't impatiently skim each page waiting for it to be something else. You have to have the patience and commitment to let it unravel at the pace it was designed to unravel. Which again, is not the kind of game a lot of people are going to be into, attention spans are down, I get it.
But coming from someone who values and looks for good story telling in video games, I love FF16. It's a dense, sprawling, slow burn, that takes its time. And the payoff is a sense of having lived in this world and gotten to know its characters over decades of in game time. The gameplay is secondary but important. And again, compared to other jpgs, 16 is leagues ahead of its competition with its battle system. So which jpgs in the last 20 years are we comparing this to?
My problem is, for an action game, I don't think this was the best course of action; because at the end of it, people want to get back to the gameplay that's the selling point of the game. The story could be good, but if you're bogging the game down with just story, story, story, then it's gonna feel like a drag when you only get to fight for a small amount of it. You got to have a good balance, I believe, and I'd say older FF games did it better, though given the grinding nature of them, the combat could feel repetitive, but I do believe they had a good balance with FF12.
I don't think I could agree with FF16 being leagues ahead of other JRPGs with it's battle system, when it's not much of an JRPG, but more of a full on Action game, and lacks any of the RPG that most JRPGs have: status effects, weaknesses/strengths, etc. Which is exactly what Yoshi-P did with FF14 as well. Especially, when most JRPGs battle systems are a bit more strategic and require more micro management, because of all the buffs/debuffs, accountability of team make up, gear, status effects, etc.
The game has the same problem as digimon survive
70% story 30% gameplay
The difference is that FF16 was promoted as an hack&slash action RPG
While survive was promoted as a visual novel first with sprinkles of tactical RPG.
Maybe this is worst
FF16 is as much an RPG as call of duty
People take issue with this kind of thing
Well we could compare it to its other predecessors in the series for starters
@@thefinalday5858it's not ff16 is mostly gameplay maybe play the fucking game??
Except there are ways to give a video game compelling and dense stories without bogging down or undermining the gameplay and pacing, Death Stranding being a great example as it's a game I'm playing through right now. It's narrative about connection and separation is very compelling and dense, and yet DS remembers that it's a video game and therefore most of the time you're playing the game, you are going to be delivering packages, planning your routes, making bridges and roads that allow you to get to certain places much easier, etc, and you have to be careful and thorough as you have a limit on how much you can build due to the chiral network's bandwidth, and you can also damage your packages which lowers the amount of likes you get, which lowers the rate of connection you build with many of the people you deliver packages too.
Video games are video GAMES, they are meant to be played, not sit there and listen and watching what goes on most of the time, that's what movie/shows are for.
I watched someone play the game and it literally took only few minutes to understand how bad the game really is. People seem to buy these game because of the title alone. Its like they don't even care about the gameplay.
He literally mentioned that the gameplay is good and this is coming from the guy that is pessimistic as hell 95% of the time.
The gameplay is good like did you even watch the video you’re supposed to follow whatever this “reviewer” says
and of course the blind idiot didnt even watched the video and is spouting horseshit. its clear that you are parroting other opinions, its pathetic and sad (no, its actually funny, like every clown is).
When i played this game, this is the first game in my life where i legit skipped cutscenes and it didn't even matter because that cutscene i just skipped was just filler and had nothing to do with the story
I regret finishing this game. All that time gone. So sad.
i'd rather finish final fantasy 16 than play a boring 3 hour long call of dookie campaign
Holy SHIT the book comment at the end. I'm a writer, and that really hit me hard; you are SO fucking right, wtf.
you're not a writer
you are not actually
This might be Baby's First Final Fantasy. Simple controls, flashy animations, long cutscenes,etc
> you havent beat a single S rank hunt, and you certainly have gotten any stagger damager over 20k. Skill issue.
@@KyngD469 there are 0 RPG mechanics
very very true
@@GuiltyBystander8Not true.
The RPG traits in FFXVI would be...
* Creating builds in regards to Eikonic Ability combinations with the means to improve them over time
* Every level up providing stat increases
* Equipment that can modify the gameplay or stats
* Means to find equipment, or resources to improve equipment out in the world through drops or vendors
* A coherent and decent narrative that is character-driven through Clive.
It may not resonate with what you want, nor does it heavily use RPG mechanics. But it having 0 RPG mechanics? That's certainly false.
No. That would be Final Fantasy Mystic Quest! Mind you Mystic Quest is a better game than FF13, 15, or 16. But Mystic Quest is the simplest Final Fantasy title by far. I prefer turn based RPGs. Strategy is way more important to me than flashy graphics. I'd say Octopath Traveler is a far superior game to any of the new Final Fantasy titles..
Brevity is the soul of wit and FFT was the master at this, hardly any of its cutscenes last for longer than 5 mins but it says everything it needs to while maintaining a dark tone (not that it really matters). FF16 is the complete opposite and the story isn't good enough like it is in FF14's later xpacs to justify the cutscene spam.
You keep slandering my boy Clive like that and I'll send Meteion to melt your cold heart.
Final fantasy tactics sucks stop sucking it off. Same losers who sucked off ff7 all those years every time a new game came out.
It was the best FF story to date IMHO.
It’s an imperfect mix definitely could’ve cut down the cutscenes and ramp up the combat but yea the switch back n forth tones is crazy especially with the whole magic bears being the oppressed ones
@Lee-km7qq Because they turn to stone if they use too much of their magic. They're tools and play-things. Used as fodder for their war. They're no less as strong as regular people who just simply use crystals for magic.
@Lee-km7qqBecause usually the magic they create is fairly small, not WMD-levels like the Dominants.
That's stupid. Even if you could light a single flame, you could easily burn down cities. @@SolProxy
@@roussounmanman I mean sure, maybe? If one of the bearers ever did get fed up enough to be able to avoid detection by literally everyone and escape for long enough to start an arson-streak, maybe with wooden houses they could set some fires but in big cities where the buildings clearly aren't made of wood but stone it might be more difficult. If anyone sees you without a master you'll most likely get reported and cut down by guards if they find out about what you're doing. Full-scale riots might work better but bearers are beaten and abused so badly they don't even want to fight, like the ones Clive and Jill saved in Dhalmekia.
@Lee-km7qq That's answered in the lore, but for that you need to complete the game and not be autistic American with ADHD and low attention span.
Call me a 25 year old boomer but games truly used to be better in the past, all of the AAA shit we get nowadays is worth fuck all, and we hardly get any lower budget games anymore. And indies sure as fucking hell don't fill that gap/hole.
I cannot believe I'm saying this, but Final Fantasy XV is way more Final Fantasy than this game. You have party members you can command and control, different types of weapons, an MP system, status ailments, phoenix downs, enemies with various weaknesses and strengths, better value in exploration, summons you can actually SUMMON!, etc. All the things this game doesn't have.
XV is still very mid, but XVI makes XV look like a masterpiece in comparison. I almost regret selling it now, and I only sold it because of Stranger of Paradise coming out and being way better than both of these games. I mean, you talk about the lack of a combo meter in XVI which I think is a fatal flaw in it's combat system, XV HAS A COMBO METER, and it actually rewards you by increasing your damage more output the longer you kept it up, which is what this game desperately needs.
Complete bullshit , ff15 was complete garage from the beginning the gameplay sucked, the story sucked , it was a absolute chore stop lying
Yes, this game makes FFXV look good and makes FFXIII look amazing by comparison.
I will just say as far as powerful beings being enslaved and not fighting back, didn’t inFamous also do the same thing with the Conduits? I feel like I’ve seen it a few times in media.
Yes but that was not until Second Son where a government organization led by a conduit herself was just capturing and imprisoning them, and they were kept in a state where they couldn't access their powers at all, but I don't think enslavement was ever involved though, but in InFamous 1 and 2 there wasn't a plot point about conduits being captured or enslaved by ordinary people because people were still new to the concept of them existing in the first place.
Speaking of which, I want InFamous 1 and 2 remastered for current-gen, please!
Yes, we've all seen that in Naruto as well. Demon hosts were used as dissuasive weapons and generally enslaved by the village but the series handled it better because sometimes the hosts were close to Kage themselves and/or independent but willing to help their people. It was justified by the lack of control of the host over the demon and the fact that the demon was sealed. I think this trope is also used a lot in superhero comics. Once again, most of the time, the enslaving authority generally uses specific objects or elements to counter the powers. Which is not the case in this FF.
Loved the shoutout to ff10. You should try 9 and 7 at some point if you can survive the bad graphs.
I would rather have bad graphics but fun gameplay compared to the reverse.
@@headshotmaster138 Agree... love old games that have staying power, it's just reading old books, they've survived the test of time for a reason
@@levimachado I agree. Very few modern games are like that.
For a PS1 game, FF9 still looks pretty good imo
The only reason Jill was subservient was because the Ironblood kingdom had magic restricting cuffs on her the bulk off the time. Besides that the other dominants do as they please. The bearers can only use basic tier magic and the more they use the faster they turn to stone and that won't do much against an army.
its obvious that synthetic man didnt pay ANY attention. he should stick to reviewing games with no story as he seems to have ADD.
restricting cuffs are not on her whole time. she could turn on them
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 but people she loved were held hostage on the island. Haven't you seen how one dude at the beginning of the game was going to kill the young girl if jill didnt do what they want? Its like you people just dont want to understand the story and just want to spout bs like your overlord synthetic man. 😒
@@foulXDeven when you fight her she states that she will not have any blood on her hands. It’s like ppl weren’t even paying attention
@@guyc1479 of course they do not pay any attention if its easier to just shit on the game. Their overlord synthetic man says its boring so they assume its boring for them too without even trying to understand. So stupid and ignorant.
I still recommend this game. It's one of those game that could make or break depending on whether you are invested in the characters or story or not. For me it's very engaging, haven't found a game this engaging for years, better than the new Gow ragnarok and last of us 2. Am surprised by it in a good way.
The giant fight and music are reasons alone to play it also the combat is fun
Everything about the Ultima boss fight was a spectacle.
Absolutely. I quite enjoyed the combat, mostly as a DMC fan, games like this are usually easy. It's getting Super Sexy Style which is the hard part. (Or at least looking that good)
No this game is trash
This game is a complete chore to play and the game is piss easy
I feel like if a player was not playing for youtube audience or streaming and not worried about cut scene length they would enjoy the story more. Sometimes there is nothing better then kicking back for a weekend and enjoying some chill fantasy story games, maybe they should have released this in winter for max comfiness.
Shorter attention spans. FF16's story is well paced so far from what I've seen watching a no commentary playthrough.
Yeh it's pretty well paced. Side quests stretch it out a bit much but they are optional and hit/miss. Some action sequences lean too hard into anime but they are fun to play.
I mean... That's basically it. That's my balanced take without going too far into the deep end in either end like this youtuber does lol
Story is trash stop! lol
I was put to sleep by it during the stream.
I fell asleep like 4 times watching the story because it was so bad
I wanted to watch the stream but the fact it's a final fantasy game stopped me because unless synth started drinking I ain't got time for this boring bs
Not surprised
I thought this story was pretty good, enough to move from Demo -> Purchase in the same week. But I get the criticisms of this game, I just happen to enjoy my experience so far.
I didnt mind the mix of goofy and dark, that s why I love 7, and many other japanese stuff. Yet I knew the man wouldn't bear that. Though compared to GoW square didnt indulge too much into woke bullshit which is refreshing.. Also I think some of the epicness of late game is unmatched, cutscenes and eikon battles. But he won't know.. FF have always been about twisted narrative, this fits this era of "movie game type. Maybe not the gamer experience but compared to watching Netflix, I think it's fair.
7 remake felt quite the same, with the added value of playing with existing lore. Rebirth got me hyped just based on story.
I hated it at first because of not having much to do, but after 11hours It actually grew on my. I just can't watch all the cutscenes
I enjoyed the demo so I think I might buy it to decide for myself. I have to take Synths take with a grain of salt because I enjoy lots of things he hates.
I agree. Even though i tend to dislike the sony story walking simulator type games this one i somehow really like. It might just be the s tier voice acting and decent (as far as ive played) writing
+no woke bs detected helps
I don’t mind cut scenes if they are good. And in this case the story is so important that you cannot dismissed them in any way.
You shouldn’t play every game as they were the same. And in this case cut scenes are the game as much as the pure gameplay.
Except the story is bad so it makes the cutscenes boring. Movie games are boring.
@@VenomGamingCenter
Actual NPC response
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@@VenomGamingCenter huh? He said cut secene heavy games are ok as long as the cutscenes are good. Then you said: "except the story/cutscenes arent good" implying you agreed with him but dont think the story/cutscenes are good enough. Then you just contradict yourself and say generally "movie games are boring". Which is it? how did you manage to contradict yourself in only two sentences?
@@mrhockeyplayer909 do you lack reading comprehension?
Because you clearly didn't read the OP properly, or what I responded with. So your point about any contradiction is moot until you learn to read properly.
Arrows and pointers everywhere even though every level is a corridor with no innovation whatsoever. Modern gaming!
I like the game quite a bit but I seriously dislike that aspect.
Massively enjoyed the game. That being said, I can see it's flaws. I feel like if the story doesn't suck you in within the first few hours there probably is nothing here for you. I enjoyed the gameplay but there are more intricate engaging action combat systems out there. DMC, Bayonetta and Nier to name a few. Again I really enjoyed the game but it's not a surprise toe it's polarising.
Personally I like the story of this game but kinda dislike the gameplay because well its lacking and doesn't require that much skill tbh
Seems like im hearing both "its a final fantasy game, what did you expect" and "its an action game not a typical final fantasy game, what did you expect" used to defend the games short comings. Feels kind of weird to stick with both arguments and not one. Like to pick and choose which ff design decisions shouldn’t be criticized. Seems like theres a lot of good in the game but also a clash of ideals that dont exactly result in a perfect end product.
Can't blame you for not finishing it, brother.
Here before triple boosted twitter haters
They definitely should’ve given you some sort of incentive for using long combos. Maybe a reduction of cool down? Just something.
defiantly agree with the lack of gameplay i enjoy the combat just wish there was more wish they had optional dungeons in some of the areas. although i can't belive it im actually really enjoying it and i hate most modern games if you didn't have a smile playing the bahamut and titan fights their is something wrong hope square make a straight up action game i hope they make a game thats just the kaiju fights and have it been mostly gamplay and about 10 hours that would be perfect.
Yeah they should have fully committed to it being an action game without all the filler. Basically just the main quest minus some filler and cutscenes. Structured differently and it would be a good action game.
Sorry, it’s spelled definitely, not defiantly.
Basically the devs decided to appeal to a broader audience by trying to make it like one of those awful “sony movie” games that are so popular nowadays. It’s barely even a final fantasy game.
If clive is best character and he's boring to listen to, then why bother? Jack from stranger of paradise is fun because he's too deep into hunting CHAOS that he ignores a girl who suggested CHAOS might be just a fairytale and listening to his limp bizkit song while leaving the castle then stops to tell her CHAOS is real.
Whatever you think of story, Jack's personality could carry the story for how unhinged he is regarding CHAOS. If you have boring guy as lead character, he could have the deepest backstory and i won't care a single minute because he's that unappealing and that's how i feel about clive.
qft
Lmao that's a you problem
@@tomgu2285 no shit
The main cutscenes are great. The side quest cutscenes....oh man. At least there are the ones you can skip through as fast as you can read the text but my Lord.
The main story isn’t even good
@@omensoffate Yeah I was.expecting much better.
cutscenes = story
Synthetic man is my favorite Bosnian reviewer
>plays a Final Fantasy game
>complains about too many cutscenes
Bruh.
I can tolerate it if there's a lot of gameplay. FFXIV has a lot of cutscenes and dialogue. But it pays off tremendously and rewards you for you time with incredible emotionally satisfying moments. There is also plenty of combat and stuff to grind for gear, appearance stuff, and mounts.
@@IndigoVagrant I'm not gonna sugarcoat it:
Options Button ➡️ Skip Cutscene
Spoken like someone who has never played a Final Fantasy game before... just because ONE game has a hole bunch of cutscenes, doesn't mean this has been a staple of the series... mgs style cutscenes are not a staple of FF Games.
@beezusHrist I've played 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6. I've beaten 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 16. The only one that wasn't dialogue or cutscene heavy was 1. Not sure what you're talking about lol
@ugeenroadelie 4 isn't "dialogue" or cutscene heavy. 5 isn't "dialogue" or cutscene heavy. 6 isn't "dialogue" or cutscene heavy. Even though 7 OG has FMVs, they're never too long, and it certainly isn't "dialogue heavy". 8 is the same as 7. 9 is the same as 7. It is only when we get to 10 is where we get the more expanded stuff. Same with 12. And by 13, the game is overwhelming with nonsensical dialogue and cutscenes. 14 of course is a MMO and the cutscenes are essentially the game. 15 is trash and then we arrive at 16 which is very similar to 13 with how on-rails everything is.
I think you need to go back and play those older games because it seems like you are misremembering things as people often do.
Final Fantasy just isnt the same without the turn based combat. Too much production is put into the combat.
At least 7 remake is still half turn based
I already finished the game. Most of the time you will be watching a cutscene, doing shitty main quests that play like a side quest or fighting very easy mobs. The only fun parts are when you fight the Dominants or the Final Boss, which aren't a lot. There wasn't any time invested on gameplay for this game. The only time story peaks is in the prologue, from there is a slow downhill until the second half of the game, where the downhill just becomes quicker.
I'm actually really sad because this game cost me 114 dollars after taxes and I was saving money for art supplies. I'm fucking dumb. I hope CBU3 never touches mainline FF again.
@@jeezyyplays6234 and it's a clusterfuck
@@buttertoast1146 i enjoyed the remake. Only thing I didn’t like were the side quests.
Yeah no one ever wants to talk about the fact that Clive killed his own brother lol. Like it was very obvious to anyone who saw any gameplay trailers or showcases that Clive is Ifrit. Him yelling "I'll kill you" had me like, alright go ahead and put that sword through through your skull because you did that shit lol.
Skill up is shitting on the game cuz it's not woke enough dude, you hear 1 reviewer giving ff16 the stick for not having black people, and suddenly the game has flaws now in thier eyes, yes both of you have the same reasons to hate the game but do you really think his was gonna be thier review if ff16 was "inclusive" enough?
The writing in this game is laughably awful. One second the guy is saying "shit" and "fuck" and the next he's talking like he's out of Shakespeare.
It's sad how low a brand like Final Fantasy has fallen. Not even a RPG anymore...
100%. What is worse is the people defending the cursing because that's how THEY speak in REAL life....
I was amazed by the spectacle during my first play through, but even then, I did notice there was too much filler, specially with most side quests. I think the gameplay also suffers from too much simplicity. Final Fantasy games usually have a lot of strategy to them, you don't have to every time, but it can make some battles a lot harder if you don't use certain items, skills or gear. I wish we got a chance to control more of the main characters even if it was only some of the time like we did with young Joshua. I did like the story even though it had several valleys. I also liked some of the mystery left untold, but wish they had side quests that revealed a bit more about the characters and mysteries the world, a dungeon or two with more information about the past history or Leviathan would have been great, or maybe a way to gain the "water" Eikon. (not that water would do anything, but we'd at least have more skills to play with) I like some of the off beat elements in the FF games like mini games which I missed. I think they were trying to appeal to too many people so it feels a bit disjointed. That said I do think it has enough to make it worth playing even if it is flawed.