as a huge megadeth fan and dave mustaine fan i always thought this but once i bought ny newest guitar 6 months ago the Dave Mustaine Kramer Vanguard, its the best sounding guitar i have ever played for metal... it can do everything else to but thrash n metal tones are its mission maybe its the thrash factor pickups, but man the ebony board 24 frets 25 inch scale, everything is QUALITY , 80% of the parts on the kramer and epiphone are the exact same as the ones on the gibson and custom shop... (except finish,fine details etc, but the tone is identical the rest is aesthetic) where im going with this is DAVE KNOWS HIS SHI**TT!!!!!
Many artists play now live with power amps and FRFR’s, which is fine soundwise, but we miss the show… which is why the background often is an empty wall of sound…
@@brugges I'm sorry that I have to explain to you that 50 empty 4x12s (even if they are fake and not made of the usual heavy birch plywood) weigh much more and take more space than 4 Marshall heads, and that therefore the weight saving argument for the Quad Cortex + SD Power Stage in this case was a bit ridiculous. Or whatever the stage set is, even if it's a flat wall with speakers painted on it, the whole point is that with a heavy stage set as this is, mentioning the weight saving of using a small power amp as opposed to a full guitar head or two is ridiculous. And it's called sarcasm, not a joke. Anyway, good day to you :)
Correction he only has 2 cabs working the rest of the mountain of cabs are all fake fronts. Most of the sound is coming from FOH. So all that power your hearing isn't from 2 power stages. lol
He’s endorsed by Marshall. He does not have fake fronts as they’re all real cabinets. Now whether he has a plugged in or not I cannot tell you but if he does have them in there
@@jianajoohoku3671 Your wrong they are fronts empty cabs and stick on fronts there's pictures of the fronts after the show when they pull them apart. Sure he's endorsed but they are not hauling that many full cabs around these days. In fact barely any modern bands have functioning stacks period. Its all Front of house coming out of PA's and stage monitors. Nice try
Things are getting affordable. For instance, a IK Multimedia Tonex One, plus a Seymour Duncan PowerStage amp (pick your model) and a cheapie 'Harley Benton' 4x12 loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s. Of course, there's laptop to program the Tonex One (everyone has a laptop) and whatever pedals you've already got. Makes a backup rig affordable too, just carry the pre-programmed Tonex (or Helix, etc) and someone is bound to have a 4x12 cab for hire. Once the modeller is configured, the laptop stays at home. Great for guys touring, so that their 'pride & joy' is replicated in a pedal. So many 'fly rig' options out there these days. More option paralysis maybe :)
So they are using the Quad Cortex/SD poweramp going into guitar cabs and not using IR/Speaker emulation from the Cortex? I have the Cortex but never tried it that way, I wonder how good it will sound going to a poweramp into a traditional 4x12. Anyone try it?
I run my QC to a KSR PA50(pair of KT77's) to my cabs. I can't even tell the difference between my amp head and my captured amp after some slight tweaking. I tried just running direct for a while, but I like a cab on stage too much. I get frustrated with the in ears sometimes and yank them out mid set, for that moment I like having a good cab to monitor from still. Engineer is just getting the direct signal (with an IR) so still no need to worry about accidentally tripping over a cord and moving the mic. There's never been a better time to be a guitar player.
I believe Dave and Kiko are using both the PowerStage for live amp sound onstage as well as running direct to FOH. It's a best of both worlds scenario that way, I prefer still having some actual guitar cabs pushing some air behind me onstage even when running direct. I've used the Quad Cortex into a Powerstage 200 into a variety of different 4x12 cabs and it sounds great from my experience. PowerStage works very well for something like the QC or a Helix or Fractal AX8, etc., it's very loud and clear and full-sounding without being overly sterile and it doesn't affect/alter the tones you've dialed in on your modeler in a negative way.
Always find it odd when rockstars or their camps call the fans “kids” 2:26. Btw love SD got two guitars loaded with JB Jazz and the other with JB and coolrails
Kirk had a signature amp, Kerry King had a signature amp, Zakk has a signature amp... I can't believe Dave hasn't either been offered something by Marshall or Friedman hasn't tried a whole bunch of times to try and design the ultimate head.
There was a limited run Marshall JVM410DM head for a little while and the Dave Mustaine 412 cabs as well. There was also a Marshall MG series Dave Mustaine mini stack. Now what the JVM offered versus the stock/standard JVM410H, I've heard conflicting claims so you might wanna deep-dive into an internet search for a more concrete answer. They're out there, dunno how readily available, but it there none the less! Hope this was some help!
Yes. You just have to be careful with how loud you turn it up. If your speakers start to fart out, then you’ve gone too far on the volume. If you leave it up too high for too long, you will eventually blow a speaker. But it’s perfectly safe if you keep it around the cabs tonal sweet spot. Also, the amp doesn’t have to work as hard, so it runs cooler.
Dave Mustaine is using his marshall amplifiers direct line outs and connecting them to the seymour duncan powerstage inputs? this is "slaving" the marshalls amplifier heads
The Quad Cortex handles all of the preamp, effects, and cab simulation for the front of house, in ear monitoring, and front of house PA. The Quad Cortex is unique in that it can perform multiple routing functions directly from it. It has a lot of 1/4 inch outputs and I believe a couple of XLRs. You can send a single signal with amp, effects, and no cabinet simulation from one of the inputs to the Seymour Duncan power stage, which will power the cabinets on stage. Then, using another quad cortex output, you simulate the amp, effects, and cab for the front of house PA system. Then you can create a third output that includes an amp, effects, and a different cab sim (IR) that would be better suited for your personal monitoring needs.
I really trip out on Rockstars who have a great sales product and when they're interviewed... They drop the ball. They forget to advertise the merchandise they sell to sound like them. Some can't even explain what they go through to get that exact sound. I'm flabbergasted by such low input to where they can making tons of extra money because some sponsor got a deal to make a guitar/step pedal/speaker/effects etc...etc...etc... Just isn't lighting a fuse to their revenue. It's no wonder their sponsors drop them.
*I'm still shocked Dave uses Line 6. I have no doubt his custom Line 6 head is superb, but most of Line 6's gear has never impressed me in the least.* Of course, when you see his rack setup it's littered with gear like everyone else's. *People see an amp, a head and a pedal onstage and think that's the core of that legendary player's sound, but it's always in fact very heavily processed which has been exploited to sell tube amps and digital gear for today, 3 to a whopping 10x what it's worth.*
He only used line 6 during the system has failed and united abominations era as far as I know. They use quad cortex as pre amps now just watch their rig rundown. Also I agree Line 6 is total garbage.
@@JohnJohnson-jw5uz he had a direct hand in the distortion and EQ algorithms on the ones he used, so I'm sure they performed great. My criticism of Line 6 is they have been billed as the gold standard in digital gear, but every year Zoom outperformed them. I would still only grade Zoom intermediate gear until they added tubes to some of their floor processors like the G9 and G5. I had a G5, but some crazy bitch smashed it. Without the tube being run, it's mediocre, with the tube cranked, it's the best processor I've ever owned, so I recently ordered one all the way from Japan while I continue trying to repair the one that was smashed. Line 6's Vetta 2 head was impressive, but the Helix is $1500! I had a POD but my Zoom at the time blew it away. I find their gear ridiculously priced for how it sounds. I also had a Headrush with touch screen etc. but it was absolute shit and I returned it. Ironically, I went to college for electrical/electronics engineering and am in the process of designing my own head from the ground up. I vowed after my most recent amp and replacing the G5 to never buy an amp or processor again. The solutions to semiconductor solid-state and digital is absurdly simple so it will have the note separation and definition we know tubes for, and it will be the final touch to my amp design. It's just such a ridiculously simple solution and staring the entire industry in the face based on one very simple and dominant trait of tubes, and it's not their soft clipping. In fact, I'm going to build some of these circuits to toss on the effects loop of my solid-state and digital amps. In theory, it will "cure" any amp it's used with, but if not, it will still definitely work on my own designs.
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This is a great video. Comfortably the most entertaining video on power amps I've ever seen.
Thanks for watching, Mark!
lol
I want to be an Astronaut
- Dave Mustaine 👨🚀
Dave is my hero. I was never a true metal fan until Countdown. From there it opened my mind and ears. Thank you Dave.
Im as in love w Tubes as much as I am with Helix and Powerstage. New axe looks sick Dave!
Dave Mustaine's signature guitar is so fucking cool. Especially the green one.
The best part is the $2500.00 price tag.
@@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 it was 1300 where im at when it came out? lol
overpriced garbage
@@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 Are you implying that this is a lot for any signature?
Using the same poweramp with Grave but with the Helix Floor, very good stuff.
Nice to see him and Kiko using the Quad Cortex!
as a huge megadeth fan and dave mustaine fan i always thought this but once i bought ny newest guitar 6 months ago the Dave Mustaine Kramer Vanguard, its the best sounding guitar i have ever played for metal... it can do everything else to but thrash n metal tones are its mission maybe its the thrash factor pickups, but man the ebony board 24 frets 25 inch scale, everything is QUALITY , 80% of the parts on the kramer and epiphone are the exact same as the ones on the gibson and custom shop... (except finish,fine details etc, but the tone is identical the rest is aesthetic) where im going with this is DAVE KNOWS HIS SHI**TT!!!!!
Many artists play now live with power amps and FRFR’s, which is fine soundwise, but we miss the show… which is why the background often is an empty wall of sound…
Dave is ICON
He acting like Biden . .
Amp tech: "It's a good thing to cut down on weight"
Dave Mustaine: "Yeah let's have a gigantic wall of 4x12s"
Maybe some dummy cabs, Slayer used to do it.
@@brugges Humour ?
@UC3hxWoN1YIozWjGtSXaRZ8Q Even funnier when I don't need to explain.
@@le_bodo As the cabs are probably fake, your joke is not as funny as you think.
Even bands like Megadeth don't like to pay to carry useless weight.
@@brugges I'm sorry that I have to explain to you that 50 empty 4x12s (even if they are fake and not made of the usual heavy birch plywood) weigh much more and take more space than 4 Marshall heads, and that therefore the weight saving argument for the Quad Cortex + SD Power Stage in this case was a bit ridiculous. Or whatever the stage set is, even if it's a flat wall with speakers painted on it, the whole point is that with a heavy stage set as this is, mentioning the weight saving of using a small power amp as opposed to a full guitar head or two is ridiculous. And it's called sarcasm, not a joke. Anyway, good day to you :)
Seymour and Mustaine- Legends in the game!!!!
Correction he only has 2 cabs working the rest of the mountain of cabs are all fake fronts. Most of the sound is coming from FOH. So all that power your hearing isn't from 2 power stages. lol
He’s endorsed by Marshall. He does not have fake fronts as they’re all real cabinets. Now whether he has a plugged in or not I cannot tell you but if he does have them in there
@@jianajoohoku3671 you have to watch Kiko's backstage footage to realize how wrong you are
@@jianajoohoku3671 Your wrong they are fronts empty cabs and stick on fronts there's pictures of the fronts after the show when they pull them apart. Sure he's endorsed but they are not hauling that many full cabs around these days. In fact barely any modern bands have functioning stacks period. Its all Front of house coming out of PA's and stage monitors. Nice try
The only band I know that has an actual Marshall wall on stage that is running all the time is AC/DC.
@@mrcoatsworth429 You are correct
Seymour duncan my favourite pick up
Great to see them making these amps. Perfect for guys who have modellers want to use their own cabs.
Definitely looking into my next rig now 💥
Things are getting affordable. For instance, a IK Multimedia Tonex One, plus a Seymour Duncan PowerStage amp (pick your model) and a cheapie 'Harley Benton' 4x12 loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s. Of course, there's laptop to program the Tonex One (everyone has a laptop) and whatever pedals you've already got. Makes a backup rig affordable too, just carry the pre-programmed Tonex (or Helix, etc) and someone is bound to have a 4x12 cab for hire. Once the modeller is configured, the laptop stays at home. Great for guys touring, so that their 'pride & joy' is replicated in a pedal. So many 'fly rig' options out there these days. More option paralysis maybe :)
Ppl think about metal, we think about Dave actually!
So they are using the Quad Cortex/SD poweramp going into guitar cabs and not using IR/Speaker emulation from the Cortex? I have the Cortex but never tried it that way, I wonder how good it will sound going to a poweramp into a traditional 4x12. Anyone try it?
I would assume they’re going direct also….doesn’t the QC do both at the same time ?
@@Burkhimself Yes. Pretty sure Kiko said he has separate feeds for his ears, cabs and FOH, but only the stage cabs don't have IR's. Pretty slick.
I run my QC to a KSR PA50(pair of KT77's) to my cabs.
I can't even tell the difference between my amp head and my captured amp after some slight tweaking.
I tried just running direct for a while, but I like a cab on stage too much. I get frustrated with the in ears sometimes and yank them out mid set, for that moment I like having a good cab to monitor from still.
Engineer is just getting the direct signal (with an IR) so still no need to worry about accidentally tripping over a cord and moving the mic.
There's never been a better time to be a guitar player.
I believe Dave and Kiko are using both the PowerStage for live amp sound onstage as well as running direct to FOH. It's a best of both worlds scenario that way, I prefer still having some actual guitar cabs pushing some air behind me onstage even when running direct. I've used the Quad Cortex into a Powerstage 200 into a variety of different 4x12 cabs and it sounds great from my experience. PowerStage works very well for something like the QC or a Helix or Fractal AX8, etc., it's very loud and clear and full-sounding without being overly sterile and it doesn't affect/alter the tones you've dialed in on your modeler in a negative way.
I run a Kemper through a Marshall power Amp and 4x12 cabs. Sounds huge and I bet these sound great too.
0:44 Was Dave’s guitar tech the killer at the end of the movie 8mm?!
Well spotted :)
Always find it odd when rockstars or their camps call the fans “kids” 2:26.
Btw love SD got two guitars loaded with JB Jazz and the other with JB and coolrails
Would love a Powerstage 200
Did you end up getting one?
@Jonathan-L sure did. Use it with my Tonex pedal. Sounds really good. Not great, but good.
@@Krigloch Awesome. What cab are you using with it?
@@Jonathan-L Vader 2x12
DAVE
Kirk had a signature amp, Kerry King had a signature amp, Zakk has a signature amp... I can't believe Dave hasn't either been offered something by Marshall or Friedman hasn't tried a whole bunch of times to try and design the ultimate head.
There was a limited run Marshall JVM410DM head for a little while and the Dave Mustaine 412 cabs as well. There was also a Marshall MG series Dave Mustaine mini stack. Now what the JVM offered versus the stock/standard JVM410H, I've heard conflicting claims so you might wanna deep-dive into an internet search for a more concrete answer. They're out there, dunno how readily available, but it there none the less! Hope this was some help!
Being 700 watts is it safe to use on a single 240 Watt 4x12 Cab? Like a Mesa Boogie OS 4x12?
Yes. You just have to be careful with how loud you turn it up. If your speakers start to fart out, then you’ve gone too far on the volume. If you leave it up too high for too long, you will eventually blow a speaker. But it’s perfectly safe if you keep it around the cabs tonal sweet spot. Also, the amp doesn’t have to work as hard, so it runs cooler.
Well, goodbye to Marshall EL34 100/100 Dual Monoblock amps...
I recall Dave's been using them since like 2007 or so.
He switched from the VHT 2150 to the Dual Monoblock in the 90s, and starting using the JMP-1 preamp around the same time.
I saw his monoblocks for sale on Ebay awhile back...they have become pretty hard to find in the wild.
Dave Mustaine is using his marshall amplifiers direct line outs and connecting them to the seymour duncan powerstage inputs? this is "slaving" the marshalls amplifier heads
so what unit is exactly creating the head tone?
The Quad Cortex handles all of the preamp, effects, and cab simulation for the front of house, in ear monitoring, and front of house PA. The Quad Cortex is unique in that it can perform multiple routing functions directly from it. It has a lot of 1/4 inch outputs and I believe a couple of XLRs. You can send a single signal with amp, effects, and no cabinet simulation from one of the inputs to the Seymour Duncan power stage, which will power the cabinets on stage. Then, using another quad cortex output, you simulate the amp, effects, and cab for the front of house PA system. Then you can create a third output that includes an amp, effects, and a different cab sim (IR) that would be better suited for your personal monitoring needs.
@@fixxxer602 very nice!
Goodbye JVM.
I really trip out on Rockstars who have a great sales product and when they're interviewed... They drop the ball.
They forget to advertise the merchandise they sell to sound like them. Some can't even explain what they go through to get that exact sound.
I'm flabbergasted by such low input to where they can making tons of extra money because some sponsor got a deal to make a guitar/step pedal/speaker/effects etc...etc...etc...
Just isn't lighting a fuse to their revenue. It's no wonder their sponsors drop them.
so they don’t use real amps?
No TUBE amps, no.
They're still very real though, I can see them!
*I'm still shocked Dave uses Line 6. I have no doubt his custom Line 6 head is superb, but most of Line 6's gear has never impressed me in the least.* Of course, when you see his rack setup it's littered with gear like everyone else's.
*People see an amp, a head and a pedal onstage and think that's the core of that legendary player's sound, but it's always in fact very heavily processed which has been exploited to sell tube amps and digital gear for today, 3 to a whopping 10x what it's worth.*
He only used line 6 during the system has failed and united abominations era as far as I know. They use quad cortex as pre amps now just watch their rig rundown. Also I agree Line 6 is total garbage.
@@JohnJohnson-jw5uz he had a direct hand in the distortion and EQ algorithms on the ones he used, so I'm sure they performed great. My criticism of Line 6 is they have been billed as the gold standard in digital gear, but every year Zoom outperformed them. I would still only grade Zoom intermediate gear until they added tubes to some of their floor processors like the G9 and G5.
I had a G5, but some crazy bitch smashed it. Without the tube being run, it's mediocre, with the tube cranked, it's the best processor I've ever owned, so I recently ordered one all the way from Japan while I continue trying to repair the one that was smashed.
Line 6's Vetta 2 head was impressive, but the Helix is $1500! I had a POD but my Zoom at the time blew it away. I find their gear ridiculously priced for how it sounds. I also had a Headrush with touch screen etc. but it was absolute shit and I returned it.
Ironically, I went to college for electrical/electronics engineering and am in the process of designing my own head from the ground up. I vowed after my most recent amp and replacing the G5 to never buy an amp or processor again. The solutions to semiconductor solid-state and digital is absurdly simple so it will have the note separation and definition we know tubes for, and it will be the final touch to my amp design. It's just such a ridiculously simple solution and staring the entire industry in the face based on one very simple and dominant trait of tubes, and it's not their soft clipping.
In fact, I'm going to build some of these circuits to toss on the effects loop of my solid-state and digital amps. In theory, it will "cure" any amp it's used with, but if not, it will still definitely work on my own designs.
Yeah...
But.
CAN THEY DJENT..
I hope not. That is the most annoying sound I have ever heard.