WEIRD MOD I USED TO SHARPEN MY STEERING!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2017
- Today we modify the steering on the e36 to sharpen things up a bit! Great little mod with some good results! Thanks for watching guys! Don't forget to LIKE and SUSCRIBE! See you next time!
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Loving these videos! Long time follower but these M3 videos are on a different level!
+Elliott Kan thanks man that's good to hear! 👍
Treats On The Streets of course they are.. i'm watching from germany and i love these Videos ;)
Just change to e46 purple tag steering rack and enjoy life ;) Great vids mate keep them coming
Subscribed, found your channel yesterday and already watched like 6 videos of yours, good stuff :D Keep it up
+Pavel Gajdoš thanks! Welcome to the channel man!
Looking forward to trying this on my Ti, thanks bud!
You'll love it!
Great video like always!
+Nicholas Rokos thanks for watching as always 👍👍👍!
buying me E36 M3 was the best thing I've done so far lol now time for bolt ons! great content definitely subscribed already
+Mdriv3r thanks dude! Heck yeah man they're so fun to drive!
Steering still feel good? Any update on those bolts/nuts coming loose? When going over bumps does it feel harsh?
Thanks for the tip
New subscriber great vids. I own an estoril blue mode interior '97 coupe M3. Just refreshed my whole steering shaft new upper and lower bearings and while I was in there I added this mod steering feels amazing now! Thank you keep up the good work looking forward to that 6 speed swap it's been on my list since I got the car.
+MCGYV3R awesome man! Thanks for watching!
Treats On The Streets question, do you get a feedback as if something feels loose since installing the coupler?
+MCGYV3R no if anything it feels tighter.
Treats On The Streets ok think I figured out the problem the joint I bought isn't oem and there is play at the swivel portion which is magnified when driving making me feel and hear like something is loose going to just order the oem and spend the extra money
+MCGYV3R oh OK yeah there shouldn't be any slop at all in the joint. Give that a try and it should be good!
Can i ask where you bought the e34 steering coupling?
I want to upgrade my e36 328 to the e46 yellow/purple steering rack. Will the e34 part fit on the e46 yellow tag steering rack?
great mod. enjoy.
+Euphorica thanks brother!
Great mod amd video! I will like to see more pov drive with this mod
+Dragos Onea sweet I'll have to do some more!
is it possible to replace the rubber with something stiffer for a similar result?
Well, I regret not getting the e34 coupler, this condor speed shop coupler is turning out to be the most time-consuming thing I have yet to accomplish when it comes to my e36. Hell replacing my rtabs, rear ball joints, and fcab took less time.
Hello bro !! I like your videos I really enjoy your videos. Ey I have a question where you bought that item?
Glad you like em! A lot of online stores sell them. Just search e34 steering joint and you'll find it 👌
dear Kevin, e34 from what series is it ???i think i would do like what you do..thank you
Did you have any steering wheel vibrations at highway speeds before you put the e34 joint in? Ive been dealing with steering vibrations at higher speeds for a while. Iive replaced the FCABS, and the control arm ball joints look fine. Could a worn steering coupler be my issue?
I don't think that is your issue. Vibration commonly comes from a bad Guibo, driveshaft center support bearing, wheel spacers, bad alignment, or unbalanced tires. You've got the right idea replacing the stuff you already have though, but you might want to look into that other stuff if you haven't already. Good luck!
So the e34 fits. I just bought a 97 m3. Replaced the front lower control arm bushings sway bar bushing steering still has more play than i would like. I have a feeling this is the culprite. Especially after 20 years and 215000 miles. Lmk what you think.
+Jc Finch I've also replaced the front lower control arm bushings with poly ones in search of sharper steering. The e34 steering joint has made a bigger difference than anything else I have tried. If you do it you'll notice an improvement.
Did you get the top or the bottom on first? Having some troubles. Also did you put the shorter half on the bottom connected to the rack? I'm doing it right now so some help would be greatly appreciated. I can't seem to get it onto both of the ends
+David Mordechai lube it up with wd40. I oriented it the same way as stock, whichever end that one had up, long or short I don't remember. Put it on the top end of the column first and slide it up further than you need to. That leaves enough clearance to line up the bottom then slide it down over the steering rack end. After that you'll want to make sure the steering wheel is straight with the wheels before you wrap it all up.
You beat me to it, I was going to do a video on the upgrade using the spacers made by Condor Speed Shop. Part number for the e34 linkage you used?
+benvidproductions +benvidproductions yeah that's another good option! PN: 32311150489
I need this mod on my baby m3.... I finally traced down my oil leak. it's the oil pan gasket leaking. i will tackle this job myself. first time for me and not an easy one i heard. anyways might have install that e34 knuckle since I'm dropping yhe subframe.
+Mazda Rx7 FD 1993 nice! It would definitely be easier to access with the subframe off, but you can do it without. Good luck!
Any issues with binding? I heard that's why AKG discontinued their poly piece but only Condor provides a delrin alternative
+teh vee teh vee as far as binding, it did one time when I first put it on the ground and made a left turn. I drove it for a few minutes around the neighborhood and it went away. Hasn't done it again since.
Where did you pick up the E34 steering coupler? Was it new, or used?
+Jesse Crane bought it new online. Just looked for the cheapest OEM one I could find.
Any idea if this can be done on a 04 E46 3 series? My steering has way to much give. I suspect the part mentioned in the video.
I don't know if that u joint works on an e46. If it does, I suspect someone in the forums will have mentioned it.
Ahh i want my e36 backkk! Have you considered buying m-tech 2 steering wheel? I think i looks much better.
+Miks Cērpiņš haha. I actually will eventually buy a quick release wheel and hub to space the wheel closer to me. I'm tall and have to sit far back and since the wheel doesn't telescope, I need to bring the wheel out further. I looked for ways to keep the stock wheel and do that but couldn't find anything.
Love the m-tech 2
I have a 2001 BMW Z3 3.0i, which is an E36 vehicle. Does anyone know if that E34 U-joint will work on my car?
Where did you get that ? What website
You should make a list of mods you've done to your M3 ans put it in description, also you should also do a Q&A's segment on every one of your episodes.
+SixFive good idea! I've been thinking about those a little. Looks like I need to do it!
what is the name of that think you get installed?
bro you speak my sentiments
its biggest problem in e34 these joints. after few years they go like tractor lol :D
Hello, I know it is a bit late but I was wondering if for street cruising it is vibrating more or if it is the same ? I like to feel more connected to the car but I don't enjoy having hand massage 😅
I did it last month, I didn't really notice anything as far as vibrating, however there is obviously some new feel/ input from the wheel. One thing to note is as this mod has become popular the joint no longer costs 50 bucks they sell for around 120+tax and shipping.
@@C330ZSPThanks!
Will this work with a e36 325is? Or is it specifically for the m3?
+Kyle Noll should work on any e36 I believe.
After having done this mod would you go so far as to do the z3 steering rack upgrade?
I came from an FRS to this platform and I am so bent out of shape about this damn steering rack! When I drive my sister's FRS I remember how great that steering rack is. Do you think that this solid coupler will give it the same degree of responsiveness found on the s2k/86?
+Maher Lawand all this does is sharpen the feel. It doesn't quicken the ratio at all so it will still feel slow. Before doing something like swapping the rack, I'd dry out the SLR mini kit for the e36. Not only does it add steering angle, but it also quickens the steering ratio a lot, especially in the first rotation of the wheel (40% quicker), and has some adjustability in other places as well. Much less extensive of a modification. Then at that point if it still isn't quick enough for you I'd go for the z3 rack. That's my plan at least. Stay tuned because I plan to snag that mini kit in the coming months.
One thing to remember is the frs/Brz is a much newer car. Technology has come a ways. You're not going to find an older car such as an e36 with as good of a rack as an 86 without doing some modification.
Treats On The Streets yeah I understand that much. I've always hated the steering feel, and after a session in the twisties yesterday I got fed up. Once I would place the car for an entry into a corner, I felt the steering wheel fighting back with me to for me to get into position as well as keep it there. At the time, I said, f*** it I'm just going to sell it. Then I thought about this U-joint mod and Z3 steering rack, and thought maybe I should give that a shot before getting rid of it. I wasn't aware of the SLR mod, but it's super pricey compared to just swapping out a Z3 M rack with that you joint. I can probably get one from the wrecker for about $120 for both. Probably makes more sense just to try that before dropping five to six hundred on that SLR deal.
I really like your channel, my E36 M3 is in similar condition to yours and we're around the same age. It's no coincidence that we were both looking into the same cars then going with this one. In all honesty I feel like I should have went with the S2000 or kept my FRS. Don't get me wrong, this torquey bastard is really fun around town, and has that composed adult side to it, but I can't help but treated like a porcelain doll.
When I break traction on this thing I feel like it's very unpredictable compared to what I would experience in the 86. Are you running a rear sway bar? I also just did my differential bushings as well as my front differential mount bushing, the car drives amazingly now. Sorry this got super long - I'm just talking into my phone.
+Maher Lawand you might find that tidying up the front end with some poly bushings will help a bit too. Tires make a massive difference as well. I remember when I first drove it I pulled over because I thought something was broken. The car was surprisingly rubbery and vague mid corner as well as had a lot of secondary motion on turn in. Come to find out it was mostly due to the tires having a weak sidewall, both front and rear. Got some much better ones and it sharpened up a ton! As far as precision mid corner I'd say definitely the knuckle will help as well as making sure you have a quality set of summer tires with a stiff sidewall that aren't oversized.
I do have a sway bar. Both front and rear, as well as adjustable coilovers (Megan spec-rs). I don't know what the differences are in setups between yours and mine, but it's quite predictable and easy to catch on oversteer for me. The alignment I have helped a bit for me on that front as well.
One thing I haven't done is the bushings in the rear like you have on the diff. I need to do those as well as poly subframe bushings. Even if the car is in good condition, the old rubber in the oem ones can make it wishy washy. I really liked what the front poly control arm bushings, trans and motor mount bushings did and I'm hoping I'll feel the same difference in the rear as well. Thanks for the input and of course thanks for watching! You'll have to update me with the rack and stuff if you end up changing anything. If you don't have offset bushings up front for added caster that helps firm up the steering a bit too.
+Maher Lawand cool to hear someone of a similar age has similar interest and experience with shopping for a fun car!
Poly front end stuff is an option - although most of the bushings up front have been replaced with OE rubber pretty recently. I'm running -3.5* camber in the front and -1.8* in the rear with 7.4* of caster. I wrapped my square setup 8.5" wide style 24s 235/45/17 federal RSRs. They're known for their stiff sidewalls.
I can catch the oversteer as long as I don't lift off the throttle when breaking traction. I'm running H&R sports on Koni yellows with GC camber plates. Do you have a true coilover setup, negating the need for the fat spring perch on the LCA? Also, did you change the tires before or after this solid joint?
Thanks for responding! I'll keep you updated.
Were you able to do the whole swap without removing anything? There was enough room in there to do it all with just lifting the car?
Yes. You have to shimmy the joint along the shafts a bit to make clearance but if you do that you don't need to remove anything.
Treats On The Streets Awesome. Thanks so much for the quick reply Gavin. Keep up the good work
Here looking for an upgrade for my E34 steering one minute into the video figuring out I already have it probably LOL
i cant wait to get my m3
+Victor Petrov 👍😊👌
How long did this mod take you to complete?
About 2 hours from start to finish
Rubber donut is called a steering rag joint
You need to install a quick shifter, i can see you "rowing" thru the gears :D I installed a cheap ebay shifter in my e36, and it was the best 20 bucks ever spent on the car. Obviously a "real" 200 buck shifter would be better, but i just cant justify it costing 10 times more :D
+Taltsi haha good suggestion! I actually have a short throw shifter installed, it just isn't set to its shortest setting. I found I was missing gears too much lol.
Treats On The Streets z3m shift lever with refreshed bushings and zhp knob
+Euphorica good idea!
Treats On The Streets it is a bit notchy and takes some more effort. but it's much shorter. you can even get an illuminated zhp knob. no extra wiring needed if you have an illuminated knob stock.. or run a couple wires.
i have that same upgrade done
+Gavin Burke it's a good one!
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+Jamesthe builder awesome man, welcome!
I would never have used those coupler nuts again
Hi, do you have a part Number of the new, solid joint? Thx
+Michiage
32311151454 or just search "e34 steering joint" and it will come up.
Thank you! I think for that price i will try it :)
+Michiage yeah not bad at all!
Did you have to unbolt the steering rack to change the steering joint? Also are you able to share where you got your e34 steering joint for 35$?
+David Mordechai I did not have to unbolt the rack. The joint has room to slide up and down the steering column to create clearance for removal and installation. Lube it up with PB Blaster or WD-40 to help with that process. I don't have the info on exactly what website I got it from anymore, but when I searched online I remember seeing 2 or 3 websites selling them for that price.
Treats On The Streets oh okay, thank you Gavin I think it's awesome that your making e36 videos and diy e36 videos. I also prioritize handling in my e36 so thank you I appreciate the advice and the reviews!
+David Mordechai glad to hear you enjoy the videos brother!
Brother, I dont know where or how you get such crazy pricing but not a single website offers this piece for anything close to $35. They average around $134 - 162. Hell, the local BMW dealer was the cheapest at $106, and that was invoice pricing! You must have some magic well from which you're sourcing these parts at ridonkulous pricing!
Covid has really impacted parts production so many items are a lot more scarce. Many BMW parts, and parts in general, have gone up a lot recently.
Do you have the link to your police radar?
+Mdriv3r it's the Valentine V1. If you search that you should get plenty of results. 👍
You need a z3 rack
Man you need a lot of patience to carry all those mods. But you save yourself money, I suppose 💵
So did you have to unbolt the steering rack?
+john myatt no I did not.
how did you get it off..?
+john myatt just slid it up and down the splines on the shafts to get clearance.
Gotcha..thanks for the info, doing this tomorrow 👍
+john myatt no problem! You'll love it man. It really improved steering feel 👌.
where can i buy that
A lot of German auto parts websites will sell it. Just google "e34 steering joint" and you should find it.
What time do you estimate you had this done in?
+Crook Ed like how long did it take me to install it?
Treats On The Streets yes! I have the e34 part lying around and want to get rid of the vague steering feel.
+Crook Ed I could probably do it in an hour if I did it again, but it took me a bit longer the first time.
Treats On The Streets thanks
Did you unbolt the rack to get the old coupler off?
Why do you have 95 Vader headrests in a 98.5+ car?
They came in the car when I bought it so I'm not sure
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+Mustafa Köseoğlu link to the facebook should be in the description 👍.
I want to communicate with you plase
Just use nylon nut...
Oh gosh ya thumbnail 's so Fuckin funny
+дядя стёпка lol glad you think it's funny!
drifting to incoming motorcycle is just NO without excuses how wide the road is or that you keep it in your lane... for the mod I like it on my track/fun car but it would drive me crazy on daily... I don't need to feel "so much" road while I'm just cruising on highway
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Welcome to the channel man!
Another clean stock M3 bites the dust. I appreciate you. You are making my M3 more valuable :D
+Namesi you're welcome, my pleasure! Haha life is too short to stay stock 😉. It will definitely stay clean, but stock... not so much. My wallet wishes it would stay stock though.
If you own one of these for its monetary value, then you've missed the point.
There are some things on the e36 that need upgraded expecially when there going out rubber parts are a must to upgrade
I totally agree!
Treats On The Streets i prefer polyurethane for alot of rubber components lol