I tried so hard and so long with Wltoys, they are snappy, the 124017 out of the box is insanely fast for the price. But, if you do anything with a wltoys besides smooth asphalt, soft dirt or short grass, they will crumble like a house of cards. Attempt even a light bash and things break quickly, diffs wear fast even greesed and shimmed, and in the states, parts take months at times to get. The first week or so I was in love, but reality set in quickly after that. But the video is great, well done, and the car looks awesome. I'm just reluctant to trust wltoys again. Avoiding wltoys will really limit my channel content but I can't recommend them with good faith.
Good look at it mate, although it performed decent overall like the brushed model when I reviewed it last week i was a bit disappointed at the top speeds of this model considering it's brushless, I got pretty much the same speed as you did here. I had that slight delay in throttle which all these new models seem to have, I also touched on the price tag in my conclusions is too high in my opinion and I think it should be priced around the $170-180US price. If you already have the brushed version for $100 less, there really no point purchasing this one unless you don't like working on rc cars and converting to brushless yourself with better electronics. I like the 144010 over the 104002, now that is an epic fast and fun little buggy 👍
You are right Dave! Would have liked to have seen a bit more speed considering. This should have come with a 60a ESC minimum. It really feels like they are just reusing old chassis with very cheap electronics just to get them out the door selling. I really hope they improve soon especially at this price point otherwise the fan base they have built will start to look elsewhere and at named brands. Cheers mate
I would like to mention a future update for this buggy... the 45a esc is okay enough... the only problem is that I fried a lot of hobbywing 45a esc units. I would recommend a 60a esc whether it would,d be WLToys, T-Sky or Hobbywing. The Hobbywing WP-10BL60-RTR esc is my candidate due to it being waterproof.
Yes I definitely think it is worth the price point, yes the lag is silly but with a new radio a few programming changes and a new esc that can lay down the power it virtually disappears. I can do that without ordering anything so to me it's well worth it and I think in about a month I'm going to put my order in and hope they're not sold out. Only thing that turns me off is all the trouble I've had out of their gears even keeping them greased doesnt really help much. Gool rc seems to have the best replacements I've tried
this buggy is for that beginner who is ready to graduate to a brushless sys safely! I love it because its heavy and won't pop a wheelie on 3s; also he is 100% correct on the speed differences when switching from 2s to 3s...its night and day!
I know that the video is already 1 year old but only now I have ventured into having a remote control car (for adults) and yes, 170USD (or Pounds) is a lot but the best known brands cost much more! I bought 2 WLTOYS, the 12429 (brushed motor) and l 124016 (brushless) and with both I had problems, with the 1st the engine lost a phase (after disassembling it and resolding the field worked perfectly) with the 2nd came with the turret of plastic shock absorbers and broke at 5 minutes (at the first crash) Anyway I enjoy repairing and improving them Greetings from Paraguay
For 178 pounds the little thing should come free on any issues. I find that delay particularly annoying but as you have said, that is not something that a transmitter swap cannot solve. Overall, I like the new WL Toys Violent (specially the 3000mAh LI-PO detail that comes with) it just requires some wheels for a wider variety of terrain, the aforementioned transmitter, and a little love here and there. I liked that within 30 seconds of driving the car, you were already laughing, so from that perspective, the car is worth the £178 it costs. Great video, mate, great review and tips, as usual. Cheers!
For the money it shouldnt have any issues! Its a decent little buggy and like you mentioned had me smiling in no time at all. If people can see past the few issues it does have its still a solid performer! Cheers Nemesis!!
Very thorough video, unfortunately still no way I would get one, just get two 144010's on sale for $20 more and give one to a friend and have 10x more fun.
Now THAT's my mindset! I have four HS 18311 for exactly that reason. Paid between £35 and £45 each for them, and they're way more fun than one car costing £140-£180.
I just took mine out for it's first run. I'm not use to fast RC cars. I was surprised at how fast it was and that was with the battery that came with it. I'd like to see it run on a 3s. On the note of cost. Yeah, maybe a bit too expensive but almost all parts are a carbon copy of the XRay XB4 so it would be easy to upgrade to some better parts. It was easier for me to pay 259 for this than 800 for an Xray so I'm please with it. And it'll be fun upgrading it. Cheers.
Great review Ricky , been waiting for you to do this one ,I think it looks pretty cool and performed well maybe if it was bit cheaper I would get one ,but there's not too many brushless buggies of this scale for that price so doesn't seem too bad a deal. CHEERS MATE.
Can you tell me what model the wltoys 124019 is based from I want spares but want to look for spares from the more expensive model it was copied from. Any help would be awesome. Also what model is this 1/10 buggy based from?
It needs a mod1 spool upgrade 40t spur, 14t pinion that all use modders run. On 2s we hit 50mph 3s 60mph. Get a program card on the stock ESC and raise the punch level.
Wltoys is for children I bought one it took 3 weeks to get to me and I had to take it apart and grease everything like somebody said in comments I loved it for a few days and then it became mundane but no breakage no matter what I did to it
Awesome for sure mate! Just a few issues which are minor but still there. At this price point I did expect better or at least an effort to make some improvements. I hope they arent going back to their old ways again.. just when things were getting better with the excellent little 144010 😐
Get the brushed one , sell the electronics on the local market ( 20-30$ maybe more if you are lucky ) and upgrade yourself , for the same price tag you would have a much better performing buggy.
1/10 scale is a fantastic off-road category, but much more demanding on the hardware than 1/12 (or 1/14 but in my opinion, too small to run off-road). Cheap parts in this buggy won't survive long. Serious 1/10 models (RC10B74, Kyosho Lazer ZX7, Tekno EB410, LC Racing LC10B5, maybe also Hobbytech BXR S1) use higher grade material, and that makes the difference after few runs, as well as a better design. Voilà. Also to mention that tyres choice will make 80% difference on a slippery track. So, testing different tyres during the video would help to see the potential of this new 104002 model.
I don't reckon that any transmitter has been calibrated to esc properly. They slap the electronics in pull the trigger an it moves back an forth they throw it in the box an sell it. I've noticed in several vids that use a programme card and the settings out the box are different between cars so I don't believe they're being set up properly at all.
It looks like it doesn't perform like my 144010 to be honest. It does look more stable though, probably because its slightly longer. Not worth the extra £70 though, especially with the fact that they haven't eliminated the delay issue.
Great review again mate 👍 I've been waiting on this offering from wltoys, however same old issues again, and for what they are charging it is really too much money IMO definitely will not be buying it. Much appreciated Ricky thanks for your upload mate 👍🙏🐈
At that price its putting itself into the lower end "Brands" such as Ftx etc and with the issues like flexing, idbe willing to pay just a little more and go Brand if im honest
I think a lot of people are thinking the same lately Phil! Prices have gone crazy lately. Wltoys were always known for being cheap and cheerful.. not anymore!
Its noticeable but not a deal breaker. At least not in my opinion. Changing the radio gear out is a simple fix but agreed shouldn't even be a thing at this price.
Lets be honest racers, am I the only one who notices alot of similar things as old XB4 buggy's have? This might be the buggy where you could put XRAY parts on.
Would have liked to have seen a top deck/chassis brace of some sort to help with the chassis flex, no throttle lag and maybe even a 60a ESC at this price point. Hmmm looking forward to hearing what you make of this one!
Unless you’re trying to get into 1/10 scale racing, don’t buy this. It’s 100% a great buggy, but for the price and everything else considered, the 144010 is far better and will destroy this around any track regardless of the surface.
If you are planning on getting into racing don't go anywhere near this. Even if you want to run the chassis you will have to replace the motor and ESC with race legal parts, and the radio with its latency is useless on a race track. Then a race spec motor will destroy the diffs in no time. If you like the look of this and want to go racing, buy the LC Racing buggy this was copied from.
Don’t think it is 100 worth the money. I did a Brushless Conversion from the Brushed Version with 60A ESC so it could handle 3S… and that was not that mich more expensive…
Did you get one of those cheap esc and motor combos? Watch out because I and many others have had them spontaneously combust using 3s, if you notice it starting to stutter stop using immediately, remove battery, take the ESC out and throw it away before it melts half your car.
@@SEEYAIAYE for sure, of you use the cheapest stuff it might end up in flames: until now I am quite happy with my upgrade and it is running couple of month with quite heavy usage…
@@beyondRC Yeah when I was first researching I seen a few people say don't even bother with any cheap ESC's because they all end up having a BBQ, I have nobody but my self to blame for not listening.
Wish they would just sell rollers practically every car I buy gets custom electronics and quite frankly useless unless u have no equipment. its all crud lol. though nice to see separate esc. But it seems such a waste if u have no intention of using stock bits. Could lower the price a bit to sell a roller. come on wltoys lol. Never had the 1/10 though I do have the 124xxx and 144xxx they are very good cars
Nah this thing is $309aud on BG, I bought a 124019 with 3 batteries this time last year for $200 and it does the same speeds on 2s, just get the 144010 for half the price and get 100km/h on 3s.
@@rogueFactor Hope you're rich we get taxed like crazy over here especially on vices and electronics, bring that sick tuned Typhon over here, I want a 6s one after using my friends 3s Typhon.
What do you think of the New WLTOYS 104002 Violent? Worth the £175/$215 Price tag? 😎👍 #Roadto20ksubs
Pretty spot on job on this video if anyone is looking for one, good luck with the subs mate.
Overpriced for sure , should be around 180$ to be competitive.
I tried so hard and so long with Wltoys, they are snappy, the 124017 out of the box is insanely fast for the price. But, if you do anything with a wltoys besides smooth asphalt, soft dirt or short grass, they will crumble like a house of cards. Attempt even a light bash and things break quickly, diffs wear fast even greesed and shimmed, and in the states, parts take months at times to get. The first week or so I was in love, but reality set in quickly after that. But the video is great, well done, and the car looks awesome. I'm just reluctant to trust wltoys again. Avoiding wltoys will really limit my channel content but I can't recommend them with good faith.
Good look at it mate, although it performed decent overall like the brushed model when I reviewed it last week i was a bit disappointed at the top speeds of this model considering it's brushless, I got pretty much the same speed as you did here. I had that slight delay in throttle which all these new models seem to have, I also touched on the price tag in my conclusions is too high in my opinion and I think it should be priced around the $170-180US price. If you already have the brushed version for $100 less, there really no point purchasing this one unless you don't like working on rc cars and converting to brushless yourself with better electronics. I like the 144010 over the 104002, now that is an epic fast and fun little buggy 👍
You are right Dave! Would have liked to have seen a bit more speed considering. This should have come with a 60a ESC minimum. It really feels like they are just reusing old chassis with very cheap electronics just to get them out the door selling. I really hope they improve soon especially at this price point otherwise the fan base they have built will start to look elsewhere and at named brands. Cheers mate
@@beyondRC it's not made for top speed. is a buggy,they are designed for tracks.
Seems fast enough for a buggy.
To those who are NOT familiar with upgrading parts on these and/or a beginner in RC world, it will be worth the money.
I‘d rather go with a 124017 v2. No issues, no flex and a lot cheaper.
I would like to mention a future update for this buggy... the 45a esc is okay enough... the only problem is that I fried a lot of hobbywing 45a esc units. I would recommend a 60a esc whether it would,d be WLToys, T-Sky or Hobbywing. The Hobbywing WP-10BL60-RTR esc is my candidate due to it being waterproof.
There’s a tarmac bmx track right near my house , would you recommend this one ?
Yes I definitely think it is worth the price point, yes the lag is silly but with a new radio a few programming changes and a new esc that can lay down the power it virtually disappears. I can do that without ordering anything so to me it's well worth it and I think in about a month I'm going to put my order in and hope they're not sold out. Only thing that turns me off is all the trouble I've had out of their gears even keeping them greased doesnt really help much. Gool rc seems to have the best replacements I've tried
this buggy is for that beginner who is ready to graduate to a brushless sys safely! I love it because its heavy and won't pop a wheelie on 3s; also he is 100% correct on the speed differences when switching from 2s to 3s...its night and day!
I know that the video is already 1 year old but only now I have ventured into having a remote control car (for adults) and yes, 170USD (or Pounds) is a lot but the best known brands cost much more!
I bought 2 WLTOYS, the 12429 (brushed motor) and l 124016 (brushless) and with both I had problems, with the 1st the engine lost a phase (after disassembling it and resolding the field worked perfectly) with the 2nd came with the turret of plastic shock absorbers and broke at 5 minutes (at the first crash)
Anyway I enjoy repairing and improving them
Greetings from Paraguay
Great video Bro! Loving the styling of the car, but little disappointed by the ESC problems when you accelerate. Still a nice buggy!
Totally agree
For 178 pounds the little thing should come free on any issues. I find that delay particularly annoying but as you have said, that is not something that a transmitter swap cannot solve. Overall, I like the new WL Toys Violent (specially the 3000mAh LI-PO detail that comes with) it just requires some wheels for a wider variety of terrain, the aforementioned transmitter, and a little love here and there. I liked that within 30 seconds of driving the car, you were already laughing, so from that perspective, the car is worth the £178 it costs. Great video, mate, great review and tips, as usual. Cheers!
For the money it shouldnt have any issues! Its a decent little buggy and like you mentioned had me smiling in no time at all. If people can see past the few issues it does have its still a solid performer! Cheers Nemesis!!
Definitely worth the price! I bought one and it performs great! Put a 3S in and it’s a beast!!
Totally agree!
You need to take a look at the Ftx Rakotan...the styling on "Apocolypse" looks mint.
Very thorough video, unfortunately still no way I would get one, just get two 144010's on sale for $20 more and give one to a friend and have 10x more fun.
Now THAT's my mindset! I have four HS 18311 for exactly that reason. Paid between £35 and £45 each for them, and they're way more fun than one car costing £140-£180.
I've been considering this buggy and also waiting for your review! But I need the size but the speed is disappointing for a brushless car. Great Vid!
Another great video. Nice to see the sun out.
Which is a rarity in the UK!!
@@beyondRC Yep! We need more sun in the UK. 🌞🌞🌞
I just took mine out for it's first run. I'm not use to fast RC cars. I was surprised at how fast it was and that was with the battery that came with it. I'd like to see it run on a 3s. On the note of cost. Yeah, maybe a bit too expensive but almost all parts are a carbon copy of the XRay XB4 so it would be easy to upgrade to some better parts. It was easier for me to pay 259 for this than 800 for an Xray so I'm please with it. And it'll be fun upgrading it. Cheers.
Great review Ricky , been waiting for you to do this one ,I think it looks pretty cool and performed well maybe if it was bit cheaper I would get one ,but there's not too many brushless buggies of this scale for that price so doesn't seem too bad a deal. CHEERS MATE.
Cheers mate! its not bad overall but I still think it should be priced a little lower definitely below £150 😐
Can you tell me what model the wltoys 124019 is based from I want spares but want to look for spares from the more expensive model it was copied from.
Any help would be awesome.
Also what model is this 1/10 buggy based from?
It needs a mod1 spool upgrade 40t spur, 14t pinion that all use modders run. On 2s we hit 50mph 3s 60mph. Get a program card on the stock ESC and raise the punch level.
I have a super hot shot with a 4600 Castle system. Think might be faster?
I hope it is let's see your review and I'll go from there I love the colors
Wltoys is for children I bought one it took 3 weeks to get to me and I had to take it apart and grease everything like somebody said in comments I loved it for a few days and then it became mundane but no breakage no matter what I did to it
Great review and run!
Ftx Vantage Brushless, bit slower but better charger transmitter and spares for similar money. Wltoys were ment to be the cheaper option!!?
Good looking body and color scheme. Unfortunately it's not violent enough! Carpet tires. 😕
The delay was noticeable. However it didn't seem to have the cogging issue the previous have
No cogging thankfully!
Great video I had mine out today it’s a good performing buggy. that delay is a shame and I kept popping steering links off. It’s still awesome though.
Awesome for sure mate! Just a few issues which are minor but still there. At this price point I did expect better or at least an effort to make some improvements. I hope they arent going back to their old ways again.. just when things were getting better with the excellent little 144010 😐
Get the brushed one , sell the electronics on the local market ( 20-30$ maybe more if you are lucky ) and upgrade yourself , for the same price tag you would have a much better performing buggy.
1/10 scale is a fantastic off-road category, but much more demanding on the hardware than 1/12 (or 1/14 but in my opinion, too small to run off-road). Cheap parts in this buggy won't survive long. Serious 1/10 models (RC10B74, Kyosho Lazer ZX7, Tekno EB410, LC Racing LC10B5, maybe also Hobbytech BXR S1) use higher grade material, and that makes the difference after few runs, as well as a better design. Voilà.
Also to mention that tyres choice will make 80% difference on a slippery track. So, testing different tyres during the video would help to see the potential of this new 104002 model.
Looks a good little buggy, would be ideal for my local track. It pricey tho! Great vid my mate
Cheers mate!
Another great review 👍
Thank you!
I don't reckon that any transmitter has been calibrated to esc properly. They slap the electronics in pull the trigger an it moves back an forth they throw it in the box an sell it. I've noticed in several vids that use a programme card and the settings out the box are different between cars so I don't believe they're being set up properly at all.
Typical Wltoys then..
That looks pretty cool
It is a cool little buggy! Cheers Emily!
It looks like it doesn't perform like my 144010 to be honest. It does look more stable though, probably because its slightly longer.
Not worth the extra £70 though, especially with the fact that they haven't eliminated the delay issue.
Great review again mate 👍 I've been waiting on this offering from wltoys, however same old issues again, and for what they are charging it is really too much money IMO definitely will not be buying it. Much appreciated Ricky thanks for your upload mate 👍🙏🐈
Cheers mate! Had a feeling you would pass on this one. I think it should be priced below £150 for sure!
These need some 100mm where's and tire set up ..it will be even faster
Great video
Nice video and rc❤ by the price test Hsp Xstr Pro is much better my friend. Greetings
What was the GPS at?
It’s a shame WLToys, didn’t address the chassis flex issue!
Also an adjustable Motor mount, would be nice.
At that price its putting itself into the lower end "Brands" such as Ftx etc and with the issues like flexing, idbe willing to pay just a little more and go Brand if im honest
I think a lot of people are thinking the same lately Phil! Prices have gone crazy lately. Wltoys were always known for being cheap and cheerful.. not anymore!
So as soon as you buy this buggy you need to upgrade the Transmitter, the Receiver and the Tires. Not very RTR...
The esc too. Too much delay makes it undriveable
That delay is way worse than you made out. I'm trying to get Wl toys to provide me with updated radio gear... its just not good enough for that price
Its noticeable but not a deal breaker. At least not in my opinion. Changing the radio gear out is a simple fix but agreed shouldn't even be a thing at this price.
its that transmiter. try another remote
Lets be honest racers, am I the only one who notices alot of similar things as old XB4 buggy's have? This might be the buggy where you could put XRAY parts on.
Nice buggy but a lot of dosh Ricky, Ouch!!
its an expensive one mate!!
It's a shame it doesn't come with a basic DumboRC 😞
Get a makerfire brace!
Seems like an awesome buggy, too bad they haven't made the effort to improve over their past weaknesses. I think I'm just gunna send it haha 😄
Would have liked to have seen a top deck/chassis brace of some sort to help with the chassis flex, no throttle lag and maybe even a 60a ESC at this price point. Hmmm looking forward to hearing what you make of this one!
Unless you’re trying to get into 1/10 scale racing, don’t buy this. It’s 100% a great buggy, but for the price and everything else considered, the 144010 is far better and will destroy this around any track regardless of the surface.
Excellent advice 💯😎👍
If you are planning on getting into racing don't go anywhere near this. Even if you want to run the chassis you will have to replace the motor and ESC with race legal parts, and the radio with its latency is useless on a race track. Then a race spec motor will destroy the diffs in no time. If you like the look of this and want to go racing, buy the LC Racing buggy this was copied from.
Don’t think it is 100 worth the money. I did a Brushless Conversion from the Brushed Version with 60A ESC so it could handle 3S… and that was not that mich more expensive…
Did you get one of those cheap esc and motor combos? Watch out because I and many others have had them spontaneously combust using 3s, if you notice it starting to stutter stop using immediately, remove battery, take the ESC out and throw it away before it melts half your car.
@@SEEYAIAYE got to be carful of those cheap units!
@@SEEYAIAYE for sure, of you use the cheapest stuff it might end up in flames: until now I am quite happy with my upgrade and it is running couple of month with quite heavy usage…
@@svenoetinger7887 Good stuff, all you can ask for.
@@beyondRC Yeah when I was first researching I seen a few people say don't even bother with any cheap ESC's because they all end up having a BBQ, I have nobody but my self to blame for not listening.
Wish they would just sell rollers practically every car I buy gets custom electronics and quite frankly useless unless u have no equipment. its all crud lol. though nice to see separate esc. But it seems such a waste if u have no intention of using stock bits. Could lower the price a bit to sell a roller. come on wltoys lol. Never had the 1/10 though I do have the 124xxx and 144xxx they are very good cars
Not bad but I do think wltoys could of done much better. certainly at its price point.a bit disappointing. Great review bud
Your not wrong mate! Some improvements would have been nice considering how much it costs! !
$100.00 more than my EAT14? (Which, I'll wager, will beat this model.) Not worth it in my estimation.
For 230$ I would rather buy brushed arrma typhoon
Not worth it, man these things are getting worse?
shim the diffs. thank me later. ..
The people who are working for WL toys are not very bright.
Far from it 😂😂
WLToys always worth the money! unless 124018 =oP
Nah this thing is $309aud on BG, I bought a 124019 with 3 batteries this time last year for $200 and it does the same speeds on 2s, just get the 144010 for half the price and get 100km/h on 3s.
@@SEEYAIAYE dangit don't tell me that, i'm moving to Australia next year. LOL
@@rogueFactor Hope you're rich we get taxed like crazy over here especially on vices and electronics, bring that sick tuned Typhon over here, I want a 6s one after using my friends 3s Typhon.
@@SEEYAIAYE oy vey, i'm rich enough to be moving. i need to post more of my TLR build. i need to post more of my content, period. :D
I love My 124018's 😂 they make ruthless rally cross cars with the kamtec saxo body and some 1/10 rally wheels 👍