We're Stronger Together! | Library Of Ruina Part 37 - Foreman Plays Stuff

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  • @ForemanPlaysStuff
    @ForemanPlaysStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is the best thumbnail I've ever made discord.gg/foreman

    • @tmdiz4579
      @tmdiz4579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gigachad foreman not abusing Geb

    • @thefrostbite1135
      @thefrostbite1135 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even to this day I agree 100%

  • @conwaysquest6961
    @conwaysquest6961 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    There's a theory that Oswald is blind and thus uses his sense of smell to "see". This would explain why he describes everything in terms of smells, and he didn't notice tiph and the the light has no smell and thus oswald couldn't properly See them.

  • @wymarsane7305
    @wymarsane7305 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The lack of clown-to-clown communication is disturbing

  • @chaosdarkminion
    @chaosdarkminion ปีที่แล้ว +74

    With the whole issue of this fight between hope and nihilism over expectations for the future, I remember winning with a bit of irony in my strategy.
    Thipereth: Sorry Oswald but my social studies floor doesn't have pathetic cards, what it does have is the invincible Nihil.
    Oswald: Impossible, no one had been able to summon him. AHHHHHHHH.

    • @jonas162
      @jonas162 ปีที่แล้ว

      i just hit the clown until he died and ignored my stupified librarian because they had no attack page .-.

    • @espurrseyes42
      @espurrseyes42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. Just set up some Neg Coin Party to make Nyxodia.

  • @antonkremov20
    @antonkremov20 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Truly one of the thumbnails of all time
    Oswald fight is real clown to clown communication, you kill all of your allies and assemble tiphxodia, osward hypnotizes tiph, she attacks him due to lack of allies, and you get the only fight in the game that isn't even p+space bar, it's now just space bar

  • @Local-NPC
    @Local-NPC ปีที่แล้ว +40

    1:01:02 the best answer for this condition is Gebura "Great Split - Vertical", but not target it at "Beatdown" but clash it with another active speed die, because the effect from "Great Split - Vertical" is to cancel a random combat page that used by target at that turn, and because she only use 2, it's 100% gonna cancel "Beatdown" but at stage 2, the probability is lower to 33-25% because Tanya use more combat page

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Alternatively, use Horizontal to delete the page entirely.

  • @KLProject867
    @KLProject867 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love the voice acting in Oswald cutscene the most. It alway feel scary when a silly sound character become more and more normal and finally speak normally during a dialogue.

  • @dthe1std417
    @dthe1std417 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love the theme of the Gebura fight, “The strong survive” versus “It’s the survivors who are strong.” I never experienced Gebura to deafest Social Darwinism through tag-teaming it’s personification to death

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At the same time, it's not like she can completely refute it. In the end, she wins because she or her floor are stronger.

  • @joddelrealingo7737
    @joddelrealingo7737 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    That thumbnail Lmao

  • @universeimagination7495
    @universeimagination7495 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Power of Friendship and the Power of Combined Violence. Works for me. Legendary thumbnail by the way.

  • @МаксимМихайлов-и8ч
    @МаксимМихайлов-и8ч ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:12:42
    Geb: "You call this thripe boss music? Check this shit out~"

  • @jonas162
    @jonas162 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    what a wonderful Thumbnail, incredible work!

  • @lyonisgrado
    @lyonisgrado ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really like Oswald. It was a bit hard for me to understand clown, but after reading his Cradenza story I actually really like his Philosophy. It's an interesting counterpoint to Tiphereth's own.
    And asides from that, this fight is fun. The return of the 8 O'Clock Circus Music, his card effects, his dialogue, the names his cards and passives have, the sounds he makes when he hits you, it's all brimming with so much personality.
    And Oswald's just overall a nice clown. Stuff like his ally death quotes, and that he was going to prepare a feast for when Emma and Noah from all the way back when came back, gives the idea that he really does care. I like him, he's fun.
    It's just a shame that this fight is probably the second easiest.
    I really wish we got to know who Oswald was before distorting.
    O-oh, you did Tanya too? Um...I'll put her dialogue after Oswald's.
    Anyways, here's the easiest Ensemble fight. Lol Red Mist. Just put Lone Fixer on Gebruh and that's it, you've won the fight.
    Mountain of Corpses if you want to rub it in. You don't even really need a fancy build, Lone Fixer is enough. It was for me.
    Oh yeah, fun fact about Tanya's "Beatdown" page.
    Okay, a bit behind the curtains and smokescreen here, into how the game works.
    Cards have multiple ranges. Near, Far, and Special. Melee pages are Near, Ranged pages are Far, and Special is for specific pages.
    But Mass Attack pages have unique ranges. FarArea for Summation, FarAreaEach for Individual, along with Affection ranges like Team, All, and Passive. Passive being for unique targeting mechanics, like Apocalypse Bird targeting characters with Heavy Guilt.
    So what does Beatdown fall under? It has the range of Near, but the Affection of TeamNear. So it targets everyone like a Mass Attack, but is treated like a melee page. Pretty cool, huh?
    Also I really don't blame you for not guessing there's a way to counter Beatdown. Who the hell uses Greater Split Vertical for it's ability to destroy other pages set on a random speed die? I think this is the only instance in the game where that's what they mean for you to do.
    Anyways, dialogue.
    The 8'O Clock Circus, Oswald:
    Battle Start:
    Ohohoho! The show is about to begin~
    Now, now! I want endless laughters and clapping to be heard and bird!
    Kills enemy:
    Eee! It looks like one of your clowns was having toooo much fun there!
    It’s so entertaining you want to roll on the floor, wouldn’t you say?
    I knew it! My show can make anyone and everyone laugh.
    Let us sing louder for them! And a one and a two…
    Ally dies:
    M-my goodness… Our crew member…
    WHY MUST YOU TORMENT US INNOCENT BEINGS WHO ONLY WISHED TO BRING LAUGHTER!!!
    Victory: A round of applause… for the clowns who joined us for tonight’s show!
    Death: The spotlight was mine…
    Librarians
    Battle Start:
    L4: They look similar to the two and those animals we received some time ago.
    L3: It feels as if we’re in a circus…
    L2: We have to do this… I suppose.
    L1: You aren’t terrified already, are you?
    Tip: It’s okay. Just do what we’ve been doing. You know what to do, right?
    Ally Dies:
    Tiphereth:
    It’s too soon to give up!
    If we trust in each other and proceed, there will surely be a breakthrough…<
    I won’t let you have it your way anymore…
    We’ve got to keep it together. There’s still hope!
    Librarian 1:
    You can leave the rest to me.
    That’s not going to break me.
    …Guess I should buckle down!
    Librarian 2:
    At times like this… I’ve got to stay coolheaded.
    Their behavior is just as gross as their looks…
    How are the others? Can you all hold out for long?
    Librarian 3:
    There has to be a better way…
    I’m a little nervous… but I’ll fight in your stead.
    I guess we shouldn’t take them for easy targets.
    Librarian 4:
    Let’s not get reckless and make things worse.
    …We can still do it.
    It’s going to be over soon… Hang in there.
    Defeat enemy:
    Tiphereth:
    I know this is a tough one, but let’s try and push on a little bit harder!
    I’m doing fine on my end… Keep your concerns for yourselves!
    Not bad. Are you all exhausted yet?
    Librarian 1:
    Got done on this end~
    They are tricky… but interesting.
    Is everyone doing okay?
    Librarian 2:
    I feel like a clown, too. Maybe even the entire circus.
    I’m doing my part.
    That singing voice is still ringing in my head…
    Librarian 3:
    That’s one down. Let’s keep going!
    It’s like… they’re doing a performance of some sort.
    They look creepy, sort of…
    Librarian 4:
    I’m not a fan of shows that are too loud.
    That clown sure likes to run his mouth…
    I’m not playing along with your silly act.
    Death:
    Tip: …No. I’m sure we’ll make it through.
    L1: Sorry… I’m at my limit…
    L2: I thought I could do more…
    L3: It’s like… I was played by those clowns…
    L4: …
    Victory:
    L4: Ms. Tiphereth. Shall we head back?
    L3: A performance that gives laughter, huh…
    L2: Thank goodness we got this done. Right?
    L1: Hmm… I suppose the others are pulling their own weight, yeah?
    Tip: …Good work, everybody. Let’s clean up and wait for the others.
    L’Heure du Loup, Tanya
    Battle Start:
    Aight… Lemme see how strong the fabled Red Mist really is.
    Welp… Go ahead and try to keep up for as long as ya can.
    Kill Enemy:
    Know your place and stay low, aight?
    Ehey… What a buncha weaklings.
    You’re trying to topple me with that puny strength?
    Talk about riff rabble…
    C’mon, gimme the ecstasy of crushing the big guys.
    Victory: Startin’ to see the right way to use strength?
    Death: …You beat me fair and square. Can’t complain ‘bout a good display of strength.
    Librarians:
    Battle Start:
    L4: We can’t just rely on Ms. Gebura to handle everything for us.
    L3: You’re right. …Everyone ready?
    L2: …Yeah, kind of. I’m frankly a bit nervous.
    L1: Alright. Gebura, ma’am! Shall we begin?
    Ge: …Yeah. Let’s do this how we used to.
    Ally Dies:
    Gebura:
    Can’t call it quits when we’ve come so far.
    …Stay calm, and wait for an opening.
    We shouldn’t let their sacrifice be in vain.
    Keep the unnecessary feelings in check.
    Librarian 1:
    I won’t falter… It’s not over just yet.
    I should curb my anger-and keep going.
    We have to believe in each other right now!
    Librarian 2:
    The hardship and discipline of the past made us who we are now…
    …Let’s not panic.
    Gotta stay strong just a bit longer… We’re getting there.
    Librarian 3:
    She’s just one person, but she’s not pulling any punches…
    We have to finish our work…
    It’s… not a lost fight yet. It’s fine.
    Librarian 4:
    I can still stand…
    Is there a good workaround…? Got to think…
    …Is there anything we can really do?
    Death:
    Ge: …I trust you guys to do a good job.
    L1: …
    L2: I did as much as I could…
    L3: I wanted to get something done… I’m sorry.
    L4: I have to withstand it…
    Victory:
    L4: To think that she has so much power…
    L3: What a freak…
    L2: …She managed to put up a good fight against all of us.
    L1: …I did it! I told you I could do it. Right?
    Ge: Let this sink in, and think about how valuable this outcome was.

  • @CesarTheWelfareCaptain
    @CesarTheWelfareCaptain ปีที่แล้ว +15

    me doing homework at 2:45am : Oh a Foreman upload, noice.
    EDIT: OSWALD DON'T TOUCH THE CHILD

  • @Camisah1
    @Camisah1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This thumbnail made me cackle when I first saw it, it is a masterpiece that deserves to never be forgotten

  • @shiguriyamamo6730
    @shiguriyamamo6730 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Clown who has accepted Nihilism and uses it as a excuse to commit to whatever they wish to do.
    Vs The Clown who Rejects The Nihilism that is the city, pursuing a reason to exist along side meaninglessness.

  • @uvlaka8652
    @uvlaka8652 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lesson learned: dont make a bosses resistances normal or endured whenever fighting geb

  • @cereza065
    @cereza065 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    unpopular opinion but i think that using the whole team to defeat tanya is far more thematically appropiate than soloing her with geb
    geb's philosophy is about how people are stronger when they work together for a shared goal and tanya is the stereotypical lone wolf who thinks shes stronger than the rest when she works on her own

    • @duykhangtran4406
      @duykhangtran4406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tried to before and found that solo is way better for both fight against the Red mist and Tanya purely because you can ramp up emotion way faster cause they don't throw out enough speed dice to clash

  • @tepig2828
    @tepig2828 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Trivia: the Qliphoth of Tiphereth is named Tagimron. Tagimron represents confusion and concealing of spiritual truth. This is reflected in Oswald’s design, as clowns put on fake personalities and serve as a chaotic form of entertainment that wow people with party tricks.
    The Qliphoth of Gebura is named Golohab. Golohab represents merciless violence and biased judgment. This is reflected by Tanya’s whole character being based around using violence to strike down at those weaker than her for her own selfish reasons as opposed to Gebura who used her strength as The Red Mist to protect those who could not protect themselves.

  • @slyfurgospel2749
    @slyfurgospel2749 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clown to clown communication moment
    Also tanya can chokeslam me to the ground anyday... Ehm. Anyway i LOVE tanya fight because it's simple (not easy mind you). truly the one and only fight where geb can unleash the myongest against an enemy that can actually punch back

  • @anothenblue2630
    @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good job on the thumbnail.
    Oswald and Tanya are big nothingburgers as far as difficulty goes. They feel like your average SotC receptions and have very minimal gimmicks. It doesn't help that the one noteable thing Oswald does can be nullified with a MA.
    The game never tells you that, but the artbook clarifies that Tanya was once a noteable figure in the Middle before Roland barged in and killed everyone around her. This is what made her Distort and adopt her current mindset. No info is given on Oswald, he's just a clown too tired of putting up with the City's nonsense.

  • @daxfer2945
    @daxfer2945 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As per usual my favorite nugget Jirardo is fated to die in the final stages of the game

  • @yoavshavit185
    @yoavshavit185 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Actually fighting with a full team is more thematic.
    (Apparently originally PM intended for Tanya to comment Geburah fights with all those librarians with her but PM nixed it because most players just resorted to solo Red Mist strategies lol)

  • @FourSevenTwenty
    @FourSevenTwenty ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is something a little different about this thumbnail I cannot quite put my finger on

  • @calebtesfaye3925
    @calebtesfaye3925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome job with these two reverberation fights! Only 3 more to go!

  • @thewholesomecultist6702
    @thewholesomecultist6702 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This entire comment section is a act of clown to clown communication myself included :s

  • @fluffy7358
    @fluffy7358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to point out that technically the food chain works in our world too, It's just replaced by positions of power and money. Replace Tanya with a person with tons of money and no qualms about using it to ruin lives for their own gain and there you go. Cancer research comes to mind. There are a ton of ways cancer can be reduced/prevented, but they aren't spread cause it eats into the Hospital's bottom line. Of course, that's primarily an American problem, but there are a ton of other ways people abuse power and money. Australia's not called the gambling capital of the world because their politicians and businessmen are a bunch of squeaky-clean angels, Japan doesn't have an official word for dying of work exhaustion for no reason either, don't even get me started on China, and North Korea's entire system can go **** itself.

  • @scruffles3838
    @scruffles3838 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like Oswald's passive works rather well with rapid gashes since it's (slash,pierce,block) and it give All the dice on it +1 powe and even more dmg basically direct upgrade from throwing dark cloud on your rapid gash nugget

  • @kingragnarok7302
    @kingragnarok7302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope the good chaps at Discord have informed Foreman about the deleted ending.

  • @scruffles3838
    @scruffles3838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CLOWN TO CLOWN COMMUNICATION
    CLOWN TO CLOWN

  • @dthe1std417
    @dthe1std417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey foreman have you seen any parallels between the music and characters present?

  • @CyJayVT
    @CyJayVT ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't Foreman be able to cancel the Mind Control Card if he used a Mass Summation AKA "QoH's Card" to cancel a Gun Card Type Mind Control, like what he did on Greta's Fight?
    Or I'm just blind that, that wasn't possible to do.

  • @MasterP86
    @MasterP86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oswald is blind

  • @WasLilChrisnowbigish
    @WasLilChrisnowbigish ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tanya fight is too easy with a team as one sided attacks just overwhelm single opponents, the fight is really balanced around a solo fight. Kind of wished they buffed Tanya with more counter dice if shes facing multiple people.

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd actually make her get stronger the more speed dice you have AND the more power you have. You will still deal more damage when you win, but so will Tanya.

    • @Jeongkookkim
      @Jeongkookkim ปีที่แล้ว

      Tanya is no match for the Red Mist

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jeongkookkim more like Myo since that's where the most power comes from.
      Gebura in a world with no Myo's Prowess would be so much less noteable.

  • @krzysztoft7837
    @krzysztoft7837 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @swand3587
    @swand3587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a thumbnail

  • @samuellopez3115
    @samuellopez3115 ปีที่แล้ว

    actually, its not that the strongest win. its that the myongest win

  • @PERSONUNREAL
    @PERSONUNREAL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    truly one of the jpegs of time.

  • @Solaris2000APB
    @Solaris2000APB ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to ask why did you choose the objectively worse abno page? I understand you won so in the end it doesn't matter but objectively vampirism does the same average damage and heals(also prey only works on the character with the abno page).
    I also find it funny that the floor of language actually makes Gebura more powerful when she doesn't have a team or if she consumes them but foreman is like "teamwork is OP"

    • @ForemanPlaysStuff
      @ForemanPlaysStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Because I knew it would irritate you and it brings me joy

    • @darlingdarling2943
      @darlingdarling2943 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ForemanPlaysStuff such a Chad answer

  • @MIC132MIC
    @MIC132MIC ปีที่แล้ว

    I meant to ask this earlier, but is the Tab thing a mod? I don't recall having it in my game.

    • @Joe19219
      @Joe19219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its base game

    • @MIC132MIC
      @MIC132MIC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Joe19219 Weird, It didn't seem to appear for me. Is it only when one character is redirecting the same die multiple times, or should it also appear if two people are redirecting the same die?

    • @Jeongkookkim
      @Jeongkookkim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MIC132MIC You should have multiple clashes and the numbers of your speed die you using should higher than the opponent's die's. It doesn't matter whether they from one person or from multiple people, as long as the speed is higher.

    • @MIC132MIC
      @MIC132MIC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jeongkookkim I'm 99% sure I had situations like this and it didn't appear.. I guess I'll check again, and if not maybe I'll try reinstalling.

    • @Jeongkookkim
      @Jeongkookkim ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MIC132MIC Did you click the opponent's die? You should select the opponent's die then the clash will be appears and tab will working. I hope you find it.

  • @ikkonoishi
    @ikkonoishi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kind of dumb having a wolf argue about living based on individual strength. They are all about having your family look out for you. Should have gone for a bear to be more on theme.

  • @moltensilver8421
    @moltensilver8421 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think out of all the ensemble I hate Oswald the most, and that's saying something. His philosophy is forced positive thinking taken to the extreme, and reminds me dangerously of corporate-encouraged messaging and exploitative self-help messages. "Negative" feelings are not just useful, but crucial. Pain is necessary to signal situations that must be avoided. Despair is necessary to force rest. Most important of all, anger at injustice is necessary for justice, as it suppresses the mind's immediate survival drive to achieve greater long-term survival needs.

    • @plinfan6541
      @plinfan6541 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think, while the whole forced positivity aspect is messed up, the idea of doing things you want to do and not just pushing things to do later has some value. That at least has some practical uses compared to for example Tanja's Social Darwinism.

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But it's not forced positivity. What Oswald does is live in the moment, he's still very much capable of disliking things (he reacts strongly to his friends being killed), but he takes everything as it comes instead of having any expectations for the future and people around him.
      In other words, if you barge in to ruin his day, he'll lash out, but he's not going to feel extra angry if someone walks into his circus, listens to what he has to offer and then chooses to attack.

    • @plinfan6541
      @plinfan6541 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@anothenblue2630 Not to mention, he gets along amazing with the Rest of the Ensamble. And I don't think anyone could call someone like Philiph "positive"

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@plinfan6541 Philip isn't positive, but he's also not negative. He and Oswald actually align fairly well since both hate having expectations dumped on them, the former is just literally lobotomized and can't express much emotion over anything.

  • @danoeuvre5751
    @danoeuvre5751 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf happened with the thumbnail

  • @antonkremov20
    @antonkremov20 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear, the clown music is the worst game design decision I've even seen

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sound of a Star

    • @tmdiz4579
      @tmdiz4579 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best*

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tmdiz4579 it would be if the loop was longer and it didn't sound weirdly distorted in a bad way.

    • @antonkremov20
      @antonkremov20 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anothenblue2630thats exactly why, the loop being so short means it gets really boring really quickly, paired with it overlapping with the ensemble theme, which also makes it headache inducing, just makes me want to turn off the sound after 2 minutes of listening to it

    • @anothenblue2630
      @anothenblue2630 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antonkremov20 still not as bad as Sound of a Star blasting your eardrums out.

  • @xXTheKingEmothXx
    @xXTheKingEmothXx ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao, you tried to beat Beatdown with Onrush, instead of Greater Slash Vertical... I am sorry...

  • @guyferrari8124
    @guyferrari8124 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schizocore thumbnail