LSV approaching St. Peter at the Pearly Gates: That was all unfair St. Peter checking his ledger: It says here you got to first pick an Academy LSV: Yes but you see, I was doing my teammate a favor
I think the fact that you are able to talk, explain your choices and give insight whilst playing very competent players. Just shows what an insanely skilled player you are. Remember no other drafter at the table has to produce content AND battle. ❤Your a beast.
Did you see him talking through that physical card draft where they are able to keep the cards? LSV was able to remember a lot of the cards others picked and what their decks were generally. Insane.
Also, and i think some might overlook this, he's very entertaining. I don't know if it's just me, but I really like his sense of humor and how he can talk and go through some frustrating situations without cursing is insane to me.
one play that stuck out to me was g1 vs Eli when you drew ponder and basically slammed it immediately looking for a 0 instead of leaving up guaranteed mana leak. given eli had cast talisman on 2, mana leaking a 4 drop seemed pretty appealing and then even if he didn’t play anything on his turn 3, on your next turn you could ponder for your third land if you didn’t draw one naturally and continued to hold up leak. just a thought
I mean, he did acknowledge this was an error. I think the deck was fine but nothing special. Would have looked a lot better if he drew academy more though!
he said he got punished but then said there were a lot of things that would’ve rewarded him for it and by the end of the vid it wasn’t something he highlighted as an error. The fact that his only 0 was exactly Mox Opal main the play particularly reckless. I wouldn’t have said anything if he hadn’t been musing on what went wrong at the end 🤷🏻♀️
Yea to me that felt criminal as well - you have the option to either mana leak a 4-drop or spin the map for an artifact land end of turn. If we had something like stockfish for Magic I have a feeling the % just completely tanked at that play.
Another one that stood out to me was killing Mastermind with Ballista in the last game - I think you're fine if op decides to just trade there, Mastermind is worth more than Skydiver in play anyway, and it drastically reduces your ability to kill Inti/Liberator/Lurrus
The Storm archetype has been mostly cut from Vintage Cube, but the Artifacts archetype is a worthy successor: -wins 30% of the time, but does so in spectacular fashion -requires an unreasonable number of the cube's card slots be dedicated to trinkety cards that are largely worthless to every other archetype just for it to have the card density necessary for it to come together and achieve that 30% winrate -absolute catnip to LSV This was a well-navigated draft and a great version of the archetype, but the fact that this is in the range of outcomes for it anyway is pretty damning. The generic cheap threats have gotten so efficient and numerous that they're pushing out all the character from the cube.
To me it felt like the draft could have gone better. This was a classic example to me of a big mana deck without enough cards to smooth out the variance big mana decks inevitably suffer from. I think there were too many picks here just taking the artifact for the sake of taking the artifact, and not enough thought put into creating a balanced deck. This deck had an extremely high ceiling, but as we saw with how the games played out it has a very low floor. It was pointed out already in the comments, but the Mystical Tutor pick was pretty egregious. That alone would have done some very heavy lifting in an Ancestral/Upheaval deck, and there's even a number of good ways in the deck to instantly draw the card. I wouldn't value the robots as highly as LSV, unless I already have something that's generating fast colorless mana. They are great with Workshop/Crypt/Ring/Tomb but I don't like them nearly as much with just Academy. I think pickups like Malcom/Borrower can play to the board more effectively and leave you in a better spot when the Academy stuff isn't coming together that game. The robots are pretty underpowered compared to colored threats, and Academy doesn't really accelerate them out well so I'd rather just have the good colored creatures in this case. I'd rather have a well rounded Academy deck that taps it for 2-3 mana than one that can tap it for 4-5 but struggles to find the right mix of cards. Personally, I love seeing the renaissance of Naya colors in cube, but I do think it's swung a bit too far and pushed control largely out of the cube. Perhaps raising the average CMC in those colors slightly? The critical turn for the cube is harder to pin down when power is involved, but I do feel like an extra half turn on average would make a big difference for less assertive decks.
@@williamscorse5643 I was trying to be charitable, since I've been in these comments bitching about the innumerable failed artifacts decks a lot over the past few months, and this draft was much more justified than many of the others have been. But yeah, passing Mystical Tutor for a Smuggler's Copter that wound up getting cut from the deck was a major unforced error. LSV has long been too low on the top-of-deck tutors. (To the extent he has influence on the MTGO list, he may own some of the blame for Enlightened Tutor being cut.) They're boring, but once your deck has one or two game-winning cards that they can find, you're just supposed to take them over most other things.
i think part of the problem is if the cube is exactly 360 cards, 45 times 8. there is little diversity of what you gonna see to begin with, yes cards are added and removed, but you still see some form of combo(storm, doomsday), reanimator(reanimate, life/death), companion(lurrus, lutri), artifact deck type. personally if the cube was just slightly bigger, things could be a little better, maybe some more boardwipes, i find it insane that meltdown isnt in the cube, also a personal bias, i would like to see more enchantments maybe even replenish lol. but yeah just my 2 cents.
I really like the current mtgo cube for this. Things are slower and it feels a bit less like a 2/3 drop grindfest which LSVs cube seems to be. I had a really good time laying UW control in a league where cards like wrath of god and mystic confluence felt really good.
I feel your pain, LSV. I've gone literal months in MTG, poker, and Eternal watching opponents do 'the thing' without struggling ever as I inexplicably flounder non-stop with great cards. It feels like flipping a coin and hitting tails 100 times in a row. The first 20 times you're like "wow, okay" then the next 80 you slowly dwell into madness. Tough beats, but I will continue watching because I freaking love the content. You'll get yours sir! Hang in there.
Don’t let the struggles get you down! All of us watching are still learning so much from watching you play. It takes a special player to be willing to keep going and keep evaluating how to improve. It’s one of the things that makes you a legend in mtg! That trophy shelf behind you is all the proof you need that you are one of the best to ever play the game!
Hey, Luis, just wanted to say thanks to you for all the entertainment ❤. Your YT channel has been one of the most consistent things in my life (😅) and I am grateful to enjoy the videos on the reg. Couldn't be happier for you and the family and hope all goes well with the additional players in your pod.
I feel like Academy decks have to have such a fine balance of mana sources and payoffs. They flood out so easily, or don't have the mana to do what they need to do. They certainly can be really powerful, but they also seem to be quite capable of spinning a lot of plates and not actually accomplish much.
its on the same tier of reanimator imo. reanimator just needs quite a few things to line up nicely to get a big guy on board in a timely manner (reanimator isnt a grind friendly archtype anyways due to needing to support your deck with multiple reanimate spells, discard outlets, and reanimate targets which limits you in a few ways. and quite a few cards are gonna blow out your entire strategy) but when it works, it smacks hard. but ultimately you still suffer the same problems of losing to faster combos or decks that just spew out card advantage while you're durdling with a handful of mid artifacts hoping to make something happen. like reanimator, you also are really sensitive to people picking up key pieces for the archtype because they're just generally good spells. for reanimator, thats your reanimate/animate dead cards. but for artifact decks, you need the blue goodstuff cards because most artifacts you play have little impact other than ramping you, so your grind game/mid game is always gonna keep you on the ropes. its hard to balance being proactive with card advantage for a such a resource-heavy combo like academy and reanimator because of how much space it eats up in your deck and needing to take the scraps from the goodstuff picks
Tough break, this looked like an absolute powerhouse of a deck on paper. Even got the Expedition Map as the 2nd Academy. The only missing piece of the puzzle was Mox/Sol Ring for an explosive turn 1-2 with Talismans or to leave up a turn 1 Leak/Lapse/Counterspell.
The poise and determination in your face while going through deck building and while looking at your team mates decks shows just how professional you are. Especially with the sweet decks.
Great to hear the renewed vigor to V cube and playing tighter. Please give yourself some grace though. Keeping play tight while children and pets are running around is harder than people think. Keep it up! 😀
typical LSV full durdle 0 threats deck, the only 1 being Kappa cannoneer and the other upheaval which is not actually a win con by itself. Love it. The grim and the basalt monoliths having no high end threats were particularly good !
Your justification of the first pick gives me vibes that you are fighting people in the comment section. I think you did correct to win but also the pick you enjoy more
I know the matches here clearly weren't a lot of fun for you to play but I wanted to say I appreciated you eking out the extra win percentage not conceding before turns you could have drawn upheaval (plus needed some more good draws, probably) to stay in the game. I enjoy watching you play with the philosophy of fighting for low percentage wins - and they're also great when they come off. Thanks for the videos.
I’ve noticed one choke point of Academy decks can be when there is no way to retrieve cards from the graveyard/timetwister effects. Most times I see them them pop off involves a reshuffle draw seven which nearly guarantees continuous gas. Seems like Emrakul is always a good option for academy decks as you have the mana to cast it, serves as a great top end, and hedges against petering out
Tough watch. Not casting a single Ancestrall. I think the biggest takeaway from this should be Bankbuster. It's the card he drew and played the most. It's just so slooooooooooooooow. I feel like Magic nowadays is all about curving out and making assertive plays. It's so much more difficult to turn a game around once you fall behind. You need to get ahead and stay ahead.
I think you make a pretty good observation. I'm not a fan of Bankbuster in the cube. That card has felt way too slow and dorky to me, even in Commander games.
Passing Mystical Tutor for Copter seems insane with Ancestral, Upheaval and Pest Infestation in the deck. In general, LSV seems to systematically undervalue Mystical Tutor and Vampiric Tutor.
I don’t think you should prioritize spells that are card disadvantage in a high skill team draft. Turning recall into 2 mana draw 2 is not that impressive
2 mana draw 2 is nights whisper which is a playable card. The power is the flexibility in that it can be card advantage when you need that, or it can be a finisher when you need a finisher. I would have taken mystical because it also gives you outs if you get tinker, but I think copter is reasonable as well. In a deck like this you are so light on creatures which makes me want copter less.
@@leanderthal1138 Im sorry but topdeck tutor into Ancestral is a very common play in Vintage, why would it not be good enough for cube where your ancestral is much more likely to resolve? There is a very good reason why mystical and vamp are banned in legacy.
@ your ancestral in vintage is gonna be so much more powerful than one in vcube where you play more lands, spells that may not be relevant etc. yes I’m not saying it’s a bad play but if you were to look over the years at times where an opp did it to lsv or lsv had the chance to do it, he was always skeptical of how good a play it would be.
Loved the assertive nature of your opponents decks in these matches, really had you on the back foot hoping to top deck every match and made the counterspells meh. Obvious horrendous luck with MIA ancestral
LSV’s server uses cube lists with a lot of newer cards and more frequent updates and rotations. Not a bad thing or a good thing, but it has some air for sure (then again, it’s better than when the MTGO cube forces an entire crappy archetype)
At a high level of play, the advantages you gain can start to feel negligible. I believe it’s more valuable to assess avenues you may have overlooked. Concentrate on the elements of the game that genuinely provide a meaningful edge and can be quantified. It could be something as simple as challenging your previous biases or the difficulty of trying to entertain while focusing on winning. I'm almost certain you’re already doing this, but it’s always worth mentioning!
Game 1, ponders and sees 3 islands, is happy for the first time ever about being LSV and the best player to ever live at drawing lands. Too damn funny.
Lmao, and then punished like a minute later in viewing for accepting 3 lands on top when it seemed the only thing the hand was missing was lands when mind twisted. Just classic LSV things.
Great rationalization about academy! It is my #11 top pick card in your cube, so the logic (for me) is moot, but even if it were , say #30.. Your justifcation on team dynamics, shows it's the right pick. A 3rd pick academy when you've taken cards that don't work well with adaemy say (reanimate and a thoughtseize), is so much worse than a 1st or a 2nd pick academy where you haven't taken un-synergistic cards and your opponent hasn't passed you that academy (and can hate).
Hi lsv. I've wondered if you accounted for your team win percentages into your own loss ratios? In other words, if you're on the winning team often but losing your games you might not be doing anything wrong. To know, you'd have to figure out how far your team win percentages are from 50% and then apply some coefficient to your personal win percentages that might bring you more closely in line with 50%
Another draft gone wrong by fate! At this point it's actually becoming a bit hilarious! Off course this can happen in an Academy deck, but 5 of the 6 games filled with disaster is a lot even for an Academy deck LOL
It can ramp while drawing a card. If the deck is green enough you can escape it too. It's a pure value card that fits pretty well in the non-busted runouts and provides gas in the busted runouts. Not directly tied to artifacts /academy of course, but is a fine complement.
Any thoughts on going blue/white here at some point? You got a lot of late white removal in pack 1 for free. And the squad card that makes a bunch of big tokens would have been a great academy mana sink. I might have to hop into a draft and make some videos so that you have some fair matches vs another content creator :P
Very cool draft, I think the sicarian infiltrator pick was 100% correct btw, your deck needed more payoffs not more mana at that point in time. Also I haven't watched any games yet but I feel like candelabra is a trap here as when do you really need 20 mana or whatever and most of the time its just 1 mana do nothing and would have been better as a talisman or just a basic island likely to improve consistency of openers (felt like the deck has plenty of high power/high end plays with academy around and if you dont have academy candelabra sucks right?)
I hate to be asking this but is Academy good in vintage cube anymore? It felt like all the setup required to make academy busted, mainly the 1-3 MV artifacts, are just so far behind what 1-3 drops do these days that you just end up too far behind even with the extra mana. Not to mention how bad it makes your deck when you don't draw Academy. Just felt like Vintage cube has become to fast and efficient for big Academy dreams.
I do wonder if you’re underrating Palantir in Academy decks. Night Scythe has been surprisingly good, but Academy decks end up with a lot of air in them. Palantir is a high impact card that only costs 3.
I'm only halfway through this, but after that and many recent vids I've watched, I just gotta ask: what did you do to piss off the mtg gods, because it must have been egregious!
Many years ago I bought a foil Jace from CFB for 575$. When I was typing this Siri spellchecked that to foul Jace, which made me laugh. Anyways lsv sent me a kind email at the time of the purchase :p
I've never seen anyone with such bad variance. Instantly punished for everything by the mtg gods. 6 months ago, LSV was consistently crushing, he would even get lucky with the way the packs work out. Now it feels he's running below average on every draft even when he opens some good cards, the rest of the packs don't work out, and when he plays his opponents always have exactly what they need for a blowout.
It’s gotta be tough creating content and competing against great players. I don’t think even playing perfectly you could’ve beaten some of their draws. Your draws too, were mid at best. Sucks deck looked great
I realy dont get it. It feels like every video contain those gut punches. Misstakes might have been made but I dont recall punishments beeing this consistent and severe six months back. Back then I was frustrated that so many matches of cube felt like average midrange draft piles slugging it out. Now every single 4 cc good stuff deck just keep slaming. What am I missing here?
If you focus on the negatives it will seem that way. I don't think the universe is actually out to get LSV. He's definitely been on the wrong end of variance more often than expected, but he's also constantly on the lookout for persecution. I genuinely feel like he would benefit from a magic vacation. Maybe even something like a meditation retreat.
Academy only really needs maybe 2 finishers. But it's supposed to ramp into a draw 7 or equivalent. Was shocked that he passed Echo of Eons. Didn't like Trinket Mage over Nettlecyst either (Trinket Mage becomes a 3rd Academy via Expedition Map or Candelabra), and Copter over Mystical Tutor, which could've fetched Echo of Eons. Lastly I would've probably picked Batterskull over Sicarian Infiltrator as it's really the type of creature you need to slam after Upheaval. The game that he lost after resolving Upheaval because he had no win-now finisher really stung.
The problem I see with these decks is the lack of board interaction. Sure you have some counterspells, but the cube is very board presence orientated and playing mana rocks and leaving up mana leak is not good enough anymore it seems
I personally thing mana drain is the best non power card in cube. you can spend a whole draft making sure your academy can generate 3-6 mana, or you can get that effect in one card, and it counters something? I would love to see the stats on wr when played because i would not be surprised if it was above lotus
Mana Leak is mostly good early game and you kept not keeping it up. Copter was a horrible pick over Borrower because you had so few ways to crew it. Borrower also seemed better since you had no interaction. I also think you could have played one less land, and the Ponder keep 3 Islands was one of the weakest plays of the game.
I’m not asking for free stuff. But you should have weekly giveaways on singles on your channel maybe even cards played by you or something. Congratulations on the new about your new children, hope Gabby has a healthy pregnancy, and hope you find some time to enjoy and relax with family this holiday season.
LSV approaching St. Peter at the Pearly Gates: That was all unfair
St. Peter checking his ledger: It says here you got to first pick an Academy
LSV: Yes but you see, I was doing my teammate a favor
I think the fact that you are able to talk, explain your choices and give insight whilst playing very competent players. Just shows what an insanely skilled player you are. Remember no other drafter at the table has to produce content AND battle. ❤Your a beast.
LSV is an absolute genius ofc butsome of the other might be making content also.
@@thesedays1985do they? i havent seen any.
LSV has made ME so much better at drafting
Did you see him talking through that physical card draft where they are able to keep the cards? LSV was able to remember a lot of the cards others picked and what their decks were generally. Insane.
Also, and i think some might overlook this, he's very entertaining. I don't know if it's just me, but I really like his sense of humor and how he can talk and go through some frustrating situations without cursing is insane to me.
One of my favorite parts of these videos is seeing what the teammates draft!
The fact I walk around the house going "and then HEEEEEEERE," cannot be a good sign of my mental health.
one play that stuck out to me was g1 vs Eli when you drew ponder and basically slammed it immediately looking for a 0 instead of leaving up guaranteed mana leak. given eli had cast talisman on 2, mana leaking a 4 drop seemed pretty appealing and then even if he didn’t play anything on his turn 3, on your next turn you could ponder for your third land if you didn’t draw one naturally and continued to hold up leak. just a thought
i thought the same
I mean, he did acknowledge this was an error. I think the deck was fine but nothing special. Would have looked a lot better if he drew academy more though!
he said he got punished but then said there were a lot of things that would’ve rewarded him for it and by the end of the vid it wasn’t something he highlighted as an error. The fact that his only 0 was exactly Mox Opal main the play particularly reckless.
I wouldn’t have said anything if he hadn’t been musing on what went wrong at the end 🤷🏻♀️
Yea to me that felt criminal as well - you have the option to either mana leak a 4-drop or spin the map for an artifact land end of turn. If we had something like stockfish for Magic I have a feeling the % just completely tanked at that play.
Another one that stood out to me was killing Mastermind with Ballista in the last game - I think you're fine if op decides to just trade there, Mastermind is worth more than Skydiver in play anyway, and it drastically reduces your ability to kill Inti/Liberator/Lurrus
Your enthusiasm about this deck was infectious!
The Storm archetype has been mostly cut from Vintage Cube, but the Artifacts archetype is a worthy successor:
-wins 30% of the time, but does so in spectacular fashion
-requires an unreasonable number of the cube's card slots be dedicated to trinkety cards that are largely worthless to every other archetype just for it to have the card density necessary for it to come together and achieve that 30% winrate
-absolute catnip to LSV
This was a well-navigated draft and a great version of the archetype, but the fact that this is in the range of outcomes for it anyway is pretty damning. The generic cheap threats have gotten so efficient and numerous that they're pushing out all the character from the cube.
To me it felt like the draft could have gone better. This was a classic example to me of a big mana deck without enough cards to smooth out the variance big mana decks inevitably suffer from.
I think there were too many picks here just taking the artifact for the sake of taking the artifact, and not enough thought put into creating a balanced deck. This deck had an extremely high ceiling, but as we saw with how the games played out it has a very low floor.
It was pointed out already in the comments, but the Mystical Tutor pick was pretty egregious. That alone would have done some very heavy lifting in an Ancestral/Upheaval deck, and there's even a number of good ways in the deck to instantly draw the card.
I wouldn't value the robots as highly as LSV, unless I already have something that's generating fast colorless mana. They are great with Workshop/Crypt/Ring/Tomb but I don't like them nearly as much with just Academy. I think pickups like Malcom/Borrower can play to the board more effectively and leave you in a better spot when the Academy stuff isn't coming together that game. The robots are pretty underpowered compared to colored threats, and Academy doesn't really accelerate them out well so I'd rather just have the good colored creatures in this case.
I'd rather have a well rounded Academy deck that taps it for 2-3 mana than one that can tap it for 4-5 but struggles to find the right mix of cards.
Personally, I love seeing the renaissance of Naya colors in cube, but I do think it's swung a bit too far and pushed control largely out of the cube. Perhaps raising the average CMC in those colors slightly? The critical turn for the cube is harder to pin down when power is involved, but I do feel like an extra half turn on average would make a big difference for less assertive decks.
@@williamscorse5643 I was trying to be charitable, since I've been in these comments bitching about the innumerable failed artifacts decks a lot over the past few months, and this draft was much more justified than many of the others have been. But yeah, passing Mystical Tutor for a Smuggler's Copter that wound up getting cut from the deck was a major unforced error.
LSV has long been too low on the top-of-deck tutors. (To the extent he has influence on the MTGO list, he may own some of the blame for Enlightened Tutor being cut.) They're boring, but once your deck has one or two game-winning cards that they can find, you're just supposed to take them over most other things.
i think part of the problem is if the cube is exactly 360 cards, 45 times 8. there is little diversity of what you gonna see to begin with, yes cards are added and removed, but you still see some form of combo(storm, doomsday), reanimator(reanimate, life/death), companion(lurrus, lutri), artifact deck type. personally if the cube was just slightly bigger, things could be a little better, maybe some more boardwipes, i find it insane that meltdown isnt in the cube, also a personal bias, i would like to see more enchantments maybe even replenish lol. but yeah just my 2 cents.
Drafting artifacts is always a correct choice
I really like the current mtgo cube for this. Things are slower and it feels a bit less like a 2/3 drop grindfest which LSVs cube seems to be.
I had a really good time laying UW control in a league where cards like wrath of god and mystic confluence felt really good.
I feel your pain, LSV. I've gone literal months in MTG, poker, and Eternal watching opponents do 'the thing' without struggling ever as I inexplicably flounder non-stop with great cards. It feels like flipping a coin and hitting tails 100 times in a row. The first 20 times you're like "wow, okay" then the next 80 you slowly dwell into madness. Tough beats, but I will continue watching because I freaking love the content. You'll get yours sir! Hang in there.
Don’t let the struggles get you down! All of us watching are still learning so much from watching you play.
It takes a special player to be willing to keep going and keep evaluating how to improve. It’s one of the things that makes you a legend in mtg!
That trophy shelf behind you is all the proof you need that you are one of the best to ever play the game!
Hey, Luis, just wanted to say thanks to you for all the entertainment ❤. Your YT channel has been one of the most consistent things in my life (😅) and I am grateful to enjoy the videos on the reg. Couldn't be happier for you and the family and hope all goes well with the additional players in your pod.
I feel like Academy decks have to have such a fine balance of mana sources and payoffs. They flood out so easily, or don't have the mana to do what they need to do. They certainly can be really powerful, but they also seem to be quite capable of spinning a lot of plates and not actually accomplish much.
If only there were a card that cost one mana and drew three cards to help mitigate this phenomenon.
its on the same tier of reanimator imo. reanimator just needs quite a few things to line up nicely to get a big guy on board in a timely manner (reanimator isnt a grind friendly archtype anyways due to needing to support your deck with multiple reanimate spells, discard outlets, and reanimate targets which limits you in a few ways. and quite a few cards are gonna blow out your entire strategy) but when it works, it smacks hard. but ultimately you still suffer the same problems of losing to faster combos or decks that just spew out card advantage while you're durdling with a handful of mid artifacts hoping to make something happen. like reanimator, you also are really sensitive to people picking up key pieces for the archtype because they're just generally good spells. for reanimator, thats your reanimate/animate dead cards. but for artifact decks, you need the blue goodstuff cards because most artifacts you play have little impact other than ramping you, so your grind game/mid game is always gonna keep you on the ropes. its hard to balance being proactive with card advantage for a such a resource-heavy combo like academy and reanimator because of how much space it eats up in your deck and needing to take the scraps from the goodstuff picks
LSV my boy you don't even have to explain to us why you take Academy 1st pick. We are here for it.
I do love when a tolarian academy deck comes together
Haha, did it though?
The “My team is x and me” hits you right in the feels.
Tough break, this looked like an absolute powerhouse of a deck on paper. Even got the Expedition Map as the 2nd Academy. The only missing piece of the puzzle was Mox/Sol Ring for an explosive turn 1-2 with Talismans or to leave up a turn 1 Leak/Lapse/Counterspell.
Demonic crab makes lifelong friendship with metallic turtle.
That crab is _really_ angry at you for putting it into the cube. It has been doing you dirty every time.
The poise and determination in your face while going through deck building and while looking at your team mates decks shows just how professional you are. Especially with the sweet decks.
Great to hear the renewed vigor to V cube and playing tighter. Please give yourself some grace though. Keeping play tight while children and pets are running around is harder than people think. Keep it up! 😀
typical LSV full durdle 0 threats deck, the only 1 being Kappa cannoneer and the other upheaval which is not actually a win con by itself. Love it. The grim and the basalt monoliths having no high end threats were particularly good !
After deckbuilding, I'm predicting that the monoliths are going to be surprisingly bad. Excited to see how it goes.
Your justification of the first pick gives me vibes that you are fighting people in the comment section. I think you did correct to win but also the pick you enjoy more
I know the matches here clearly weren't a lot of fun for you to play but I wanted to say I appreciated you eking out the extra win percentage not conceding before turns you could have drawn upheaval (plus needed some more good draws, probably) to stay in the game. I enjoy watching you play with the philosophy of fighting for low percentage wins - and they're also great when they come off. Thanks for the videos.
Crab into Kappa Cannoneer was technically in MH3 limited but it definitely hits different when it’s reanimated 😅
I’ve noticed one choke point of Academy decks can be when there is no way to retrieve cards from the graveyard/timetwister effects. Most times I see them them pop off involves a reshuffle draw seven which nearly guarantees continuous gas. Seems like Emrakul is always a good option for academy decks as you have the mana to cast it, serves as a great top end, and hedges against petering out
LSV was so concentrated during deckbuilding he didn't even breathe
Tough watch.
Not casting a single Ancestrall.
I think the biggest takeaway from this should be Bankbuster.
It's the card he drew and played the most.
It's just so slooooooooooooooow.
I feel like Magic nowadays is all about curving out and making assertive plays.
It's so much more difficult to turn a game around once you fall behind.
You need to get ahead and stay ahead.
I think you make a pretty good observation. I'm not a fan of Bankbuster in the cube. That card has felt way too slow and dorky to me, even in Commander games.
This wqs looking like the live vintage cube draft for a sec with these picks
3:43 that's why I call you 'loose' SV 😂😂❤
Passing Mystical Tutor for Copter seems insane with Ancestral, Upheaval and Pest Infestation in the deck. In general, LSV seems to systematically undervalue Mystical Tutor and Vampiric Tutor.
I don’t think you should prioritize spells that are card disadvantage in a high skill team draft. Turning recall into 2 mana draw 2 is not that impressive
2 mana draw 2 is nights whisper which is a playable card.
The power is the flexibility in that it can be card advantage when you need that, or it can be a finisher when you need a finisher.
I would have taken mystical because it also gives you outs if you get tinker, but I think copter is reasonable as well. In a deck like this you are so light on creatures which makes me want copter less.
taking Copter there is downright bad and taking it overly highly in drafts where it is like a C- is a common LSV leak from what I saw.
@@leanderthal1138 Im sorry but topdeck tutor into Ancestral is a very common play in Vintage, why would it not be good enough for cube where your ancestral is much more likely to resolve? There is a very good reason why mystical and vamp are banned in legacy.
@ your ancestral in vintage is gonna be so much more powerful than one in vcube where you play more lands, spells that may not be relevant etc. yes I’m not saying it’s a bad play but if you were to look over the years at times where an opp did it to lsv or lsv had the chance to do it, he was always skeptical of how good a play it would be.
Loved the assertive nature of your opponents decks in these matches, really had you on the back foot hoping to top deck every match and made the counterspells meh. Obvious horrendous luck with MIA ancestral
The old force of negation in a gruul lurrus deck
LSV salt is the best salt. Thanks for making this content LSV!
"Not the best LED deck" - Luis Scott-Vargas
Night Scythe doesn't seem like a vintage cube calibre card, but I'm aware it's been in for a while. Is it just because it's 3 mana for two artifacts?
LSV’s server uses cube lists with a lot of newer cards and more frequent updates and rotations. Not a bad thing or a good thing, but it has some air for sure (then again, it’s better than when the MTGO cube forces an entire crappy archetype)
At a high level of play, the advantages you gain can start to feel negligible. I believe it’s more valuable to assess avenues you may have overlooked. Concentrate on the elements of the game that genuinely provide a meaningful edge and can be quantified. It could be something as simple as challenging your previous biases or the difficulty of trying to entertain while focusing on winning. I'm almost certain you’re already doing this, but it’s always worth mentioning!
Man, you're pretty good at playing Statue there
Some bad luck :(. Great deck, thanks for the games
Sweet deck! I'm calling the 3-0 next time. Thanks as always for the amazing content.
On the topic of loose play, it hurt to see Kappa Cannoneer played post-combat at 57:48, missing out on the counter from the clue entering.
LSV with an absolutely iconic look during deck building 🤔
Thanks for all the videos vintage cube is probably my favorite hobby. Maybe try the lurrus academy deck next time….
It's like to see that fire covenent contract lsv.
The “Time to lose round 3” got me bad… 😂
Mr SV why is mind stone still in the cube if the mono colored academy deck doesnt want it?
This might be the beginning of LSVs Saruman era
LSV: "Hear me out... Academy."
25:40 i think the play here is to play academy, hold up mana leak and map for seat of the synod
Gotta love them Invasion lands!
Academy is the new Lurrus
Wow that 14th pick back also had k-command
Banger title today
Seems like my new favorite anime
Sometimes the beats come fast and frequent. Keep doing your thing!
Game 1, ponders and sees 3 islands, is happy for the first time ever about being LSV and the best player to ever live at drawing lands. Too damn funny.
Lmao, and then punished like a minute later in viewing for accepting 3 lands on top when it seemed the only thing the hand was missing was lands when mind twisted.
Just classic LSV things.
Great rationalization about academy!
It is my #11 top pick card in your cube, so the logic (for me) is moot, but even if it were , say #30.. Your justifcation on team dynamics, shows it's the right pick.
A 3rd pick academy when you've taken cards that don't work well with adaemy say (reanimate and a thoughtseize), is so much worse than a 1st or a 2nd pick academy where you haven't taken un-synergistic cards and your opponent hasn't passed you that academy (and can hate).
big ups for admitting you have been slipping, i love to watch you but it hurts to watch sometimes
Hi lsv. I've wondered if you accounted for your team win percentages into your own loss ratios? In other words, if you're on the winning team often but losing your games you might not be doing anything wrong. To know, you'd have to figure out how far your team win percentages are from 50% and then apply some coefficient to your personal win percentages that might bring you more closely in line with 50%
Another draft gone wrong by fate!
At this point it's actually becoming a bit hilarious!
Off course this can happen in an Academy deck, but 5 of the 6 games filled with disaster is a lot even for an Academy deck LOL
I guess I'm always wondering why Skydiver isn't picked more consistently and played main deck with only seldom siding out. It is such a beating.
Love to see another Academy draft! I am a bit confused by the Uro pick, what is it that makes Uro good in a academy deck?
It can ramp while drawing a card. If the deck is green enough you can escape it too. It's a pure value card that fits pretty well in the non-busted runouts and provides gas in the busted runouts. Not directly tied to artifacts /academy of course, but is a fine complement.
@@bettorup_ Thanks. I guess i am putting to much value in having a Stern Scolding in my 45.
Any thoughts on going blue/white here at some point? You got a lot of late white removal in pack 1 for free. And the squad card that makes a bunch of big tokens would have been a great academy mana sink.
I might have to hop into a draft and make some videos so that you have some fair matches vs another content creator :P
Thibaud (or Thibault) is a common French name, it is pronounced more or less like "Tee Bow"
How does the Lotus Field compare considering Candelabra? Sure, it's unlikely to be as good as with the Academy, but it's still +2 mana.
Very cool draft, I think the sicarian infiltrator pick was 100% correct btw, your deck needed more payoffs not more mana at that point in time. Also I haven't watched any games yet but I feel like candelabra is a trap here as when do you really need 20 mana or whatever and most of the time its just 1 mana do nothing and would have been better as a talisman or just a basic island likely to improve consistency of openers (felt like the deck has plenty of high power/high end plays with academy around and if you dont have academy candelabra sucks right?)
These decks are so full of air, really need draw 7s to be good. Maybe could have salvaged a 1-2 by picking Karn over talisman.
I hate to be asking this but is Academy good in vintage cube anymore? It felt like all the setup required to make academy busted, mainly the 1-3 MV artifacts, are just so far behind what 1-3 drops do these days that you just end up too far behind even with the extra mana. Not to mention how bad it makes your deck when you don't draw Academy. Just felt like Vintage cube has become to fast and efficient for big Academy dreams.
@@zanzaben yes
Taking Dack if not playing it and passing a K command to the likely black red players might have been wrong.
Would love to see some modo leagues! The new list is fun
I met jdpie at CubeCon and they top 8'd, these cube servers are no joke
I heard that Eli Kassis dude is pretty good as well
Benjamin Hill is back. Do a colab!!
I do wonder if you’re underrating Palantir in Academy decks. Night Scythe has been surprisingly good, but Academy decks end up with a lot of air in them. Palantir is a high impact card that only costs 3.
Boseiju is underrated
Hi LSV - how bad is Spell Snare in a cube like this?
This was so brutal…
tamiyo over mana drain is wild.
LSV is leaving the Displacer Kitten in the deck because he wants to keep his EV high against Martel.
I'm only halfway through this, but after that and many recent vids I've watched, I just gotta ask: what did you do to piss off the mtg gods, because it must have been egregious!
Many years ago I bought a foil Jace from CFB for 575$. When I was typing this Siri spellchecked that to foul Jace, which made me laugh. Anyways lsv sent me a kind email at the time of the purchase :p
LSV, feels like u should mulled first hand and kept m1g2 1st hand because it would have been so good if you hit 2nd land??
I've never seen anyone with such bad variance. Instantly punished for everything by the mtg gods. 6 months ago, LSV was consistently crushing, he would even get lucky with the way the packs work out. Now it feels he's running below average on every draft even when he opens some good cards, the rest of the packs don't work out, and when he plays his opponents always have exactly what they need for a blowout.
I hope it resurfaces some day :/
pick academy p1p1 everytime i dont care! i have fun when you are having fun!
Louis sei un idolo!!!
M2 OP run HOOOOT
It’s gotta be tough creating content and competing against great players. I don’t think even playing perfectly you could’ve beaten some of their draws. Your draws too, were mid at best. Sucks deck looked great
I realy dont get it. It feels like every video contain those gut punches. Misstakes might have been made but I dont recall punishments beeing this consistent and severe six months back.
Back then I was frustrated that so many matches of cube felt like average midrange draft piles slugging it out. Now every single 4 cc good stuff deck just keep slaming. What am I missing here?
If you focus on the negatives it will seem that way. I don't think the universe is actually out to get LSV. He's definitely been on the wrong end of variance more often than expected, but he's also constantly on the lookout for persecution.
I genuinely feel like he would benefit from a magic vacation. Maybe even something like a meditation retreat.
Watching LSV cube draft makes me think I can win at least 14 Pro Tours
No way
Day three of asking lsv for a video showing his personal collection and his favorite cards in mtg and his favorite interactions with those cards
I just kinda feel like our deck didn't do anything. I sat and stared at the decklist between games.. all ramp and no pamp as Kenji would say.
Academy only really needs maybe 2 finishers. But it's supposed to ramp into a draw 7 or equivalent. Was shocked that he passed Echo of Eons. Didn't like Trinket Mage over Nettlecyst either (Trinket Mage becomes a 3rd Academy via Expedition Map or Candelabra), and Copter over Mystical Tutor, which could've fetched Echo of Eons. Lastly I would've probably picked Batterskull over Sicarian Infiltrator as it's really the type of creature you need to slam after Upheaval. The game that he lost after resolving Upheaval because he had no win-now finisher really stung.
nothing new...lost first match as usual...sad because the deck was cool
The problem I see with these decks is the lack of board interaction. Sure you have some counterspells, but the cube is very board presence orientated and playing mana rocks and leaving up mana leak is not good enough anymore it seems
I personally thing mana drain is the best non power card in cube. you can spend a whole draft making sure your academy can generate 3-6 mana, or you can get that effect in one card, and it counters something? I would love to see the stats on wr when played because i would not be surprised if it was above lotus
Mana Leak is mostly good early game and you kept not keeping it up. Copter was a horrible pick over Borrower because you had so few ways to crew it. Borrower also seemed better since you had no interaction. I also think you could have played one less land, and the Ponder keep 3 Islands was one of the weakest plays of the game.
Mind twist should be removed from the Cube.
Change my...mind!
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Academy decks kinda suck nowadays bruh
Always trying to force these kinds of decks.
I’m not asking for free stuff. But you should have weekly giveaways on singles on your channel maybe even cards played by you or something. Congratulations on the new about your new children, hope Gabby has a healthy pregnancy, and hope you find some time to enjoy and relax with family this holiday season.
Not asking for free stuff but can I have some cards plz? Or a chance to get some cards?
Not asking for free stuff while asking for free stuff.