Hello everyone! Thank for taking your time to watch my first drive of the new 1.5 litre SEAT Ibiza FR. I hope you enjoy the video and I'm sorry that it was filmed in such awful conditions! A more scenic setting would have been nice too, but hey, you have to work with what's in front of you...
Apart from the door rattle on this car it’s a nice drive. Got a FR TSI brand new 6 mi on the clock and still have a door rattle issue. It’s a bit of a let down but it’s still a nice drive and looks great.
I'm between this and a Swift Sport for my next car. This is better equipped and faster but the Swift Sport looks and feels more fun. What do you think?
I'd rather have this as it's better to drive, offers higher quality, and is more spacious. It is, however, more expensive, so you'll need to bear that in mind. Thanks for watching.
It's the first time I am watching your channel but I must say it feels awesome! Super informative and you are not boring talking like some car journalists inside of this platform called TH-cam are!
Very good question, and a tricky one. The Ibiza is the better looking car and feels more grown up, but the Fiesta is more fun to drive. I'd be happy with either to be honest. Thanks for watching.
Nice review. I find it a little bit on the expensive side. 17 grand for a small car, I'm not sure it's still the performance bargain it used to be. Perhaps the Leon makes more sense.
Yes, I see what you mean, but have a look at its competitors and you'll find the pricing is about right. Superminis aren't as cheap as they used to be. Take a look at the new Swift Sport, that's pushing £18,000!
For me, I'd definitely go for the 1.5 litre. The 1.0 litre is a decent engine, and it's more fun that I expected, but you'd probably miss the grunt of the 1.5. If you can though, test drive both and then you can know for certain which you'd prefer, thanks for watching Mick.
They should make a cupra version of this car. The Ibiza is a vw polo underneath, and so is the fabia and the polo gti and the fabia vrs are hot hatchbacks so, why can’t there be an Ibiza cupra.....Seat please please please please make an cupra version of this car 🙏🏻
Don't forget guys, "this isn't a hot hatch" but the Suzuki Swift (not mentioned here, to be fair) with less power and a slower 0-60 IS a hot hatch! According to other motoring journalists... I'll keep my Ibiza 1.4tsi and see you on the roads!
Hello John, thanks for watching. I wouldn't class this nor the new Swift Sport as a hot hatch. Both cars have a 0-60 that is too slow to meet this criteria.
Hi John, I'd class this a warm hatch if you ask me. A junior hot hatch would be something like the Fiesta ST, 208 GTI, Clio RS, etc. If Cupra decide to make a hot version of the current Ibiza then it'd be a junior hot hatch. I really hope they do as this is a cracking little car, so to not make it even sportier would be a bit of a crime.
Hello. Just wondered if you could give your opinion, is the 1.5 Evo worth the extra money over the 1.0 115ps? I had the previous FR and have to agree the steering felt light, although grippy and capable. Just wondered is the 1.5 a heavier engine and therefore gives the steering a little more weight? Thanks for your review, Tom
Hi Tom, thanks for watching. It's funny you say that, as the steering did feel a tad heavier than the 1.0 litre model, but I wasn't sure whether that was my imagination or not. Personally, I think the 1.5 is worth the extra money. Both cars are great though.
Car Obsession thank you for the quick response. I’ll be getting a test drive arranged soon. I’ve currently got a polo mk6, which is so refined and a lovely car to drive, but lacks the fun factor. It appears the FR has improved it’s refinement, yet keeping the fun element so hopefully will be the perfect balance for me. Keep up the good work and thanks again 👍!
TOM LIT8 Hi Tom, thanks for watching. That's a difficult to answer as there are a lot of variables to be had there. It's insurance group 19 if that is any help though.
@@CarObsession Well it was a complete factory new model and not showroom. She'll arrive in May. Not too bad in my opinion but sadly you don't see this awesome car often here in the Netherlands :(
@@CarObsession There's a lot of em. I do see a lot of older superminis though, for example the 4th gen Ibiza and 5th gen Polo are quite common. I believe I haven't seen a new Fiesta more than once!
Hello Steve, thanks for watching. As mentioned in the other comments below, the windows don't look as bad as what they did on camera and it's tricky to have the fans on when you're filming as the noise causes problems with the audio. I was demisting in between takes and I always made sure I had enough visibility to remain safe. If you watch any of my other videos, you'll see that I do not make a habit of this. Therefore, I'd urge you to watch more of my content before making a final judgement. Having said that, my FR vs. FR video was shot on the same day as this video, so you'll probably draw the same criticisim. By all means Steve, I'm not saying you're wrong, but the ISO setting on the camera made it look as if I couldn't see out the car, which is not the case. I had to bump the ISO WAY up as it was quite dark in the car (even with my LED light) due to poor weather.
Don't worry Mike, I did put the AC on in between breaks in filming. I can't leave it on as I'm filming as it's heard on the audio. Fear not though, I had enough visibility to keep safe, plus the camera makes it look worse than what it was. Thanks for watching.
Nexus Achiles LOL its funny you should mention the Mk1 LCR because I own a Audi S3 1.8t 225 with the brembo calipers off it . And Yes the Engine's are Super, But complex , slightly problematic.
I own a T Roc with the 148 bhp 1.5 tsi evo engine on manual transmission. This engine has cylinder de-activation to improve fuel economy. Unfortunately this engine suffers from hesitation or judderig (as if stalling) at low constant speeds between 15 and 20 mph on 1st and 2nd gear and particularly after a cold start. The suspicion is engine misfire and despite two VW software upgrades the problem is not cured. So does the SEAT with the same engine have this issue or is the ECU tuned differently?
It seems to be a systemic problem. I don't think the 1.5 evo works well with the current manual transmission. DSG may be better suited. Personally I am very disappointed with this engine as it sounds rough and is hestitant at low constant speeds.
Strange my Mazda 3 2.2 150 BHP has a similar issue, it's quite hard to get a smooth change from 1st to 2nd from a cold start, it's like a hesitation not smooth. Sometimes try and change how I drive to remedy it.🤔
I do like the car but it should have abit more power preferably about 170 to 180bhp. It doesn’t make any sense not to make a cupra it already shares the polo chassis (which it always has done) so ready for the polo gti engine (which it always has done) so not like they need to invest in a new engine
Hmm, I think the power is fine as it is to be honest, the faster FRs normally have this kind of power. Yeah, you have the Polo GTI, but I still think an Ibiza Cupra would be worthwhile. Thanks for watching.
Car Obsession well it’s just a shame the fr of your generation was considered a hot hatch with same output as the polo gti. In today’s terms even the diesels have same or more bhp and huge amount of torque over the petrols. It’s enough for normal driving and over taking just wished it was abit more
I'm guessing that they will wait until the manual becomes available for that engine, a DSG only Gti is a travesty. You can get the 1.5 mapped to 170-180 pretty easily though.
Hi Peter, thanks for the feedback. I've just watched the video again and it seems fine to me? At present 495 have watched this video and you're the only person that has mentioned this - could it be a buffering problem your end?
We don't encounter many moose in the UK, so I think we'll be fine ;) All joking aside, that's a fair enough point, but you can't deny that apart from that shortcoming, it's a safe car. Thanks for watching Umur,
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Car Obsession Thanks for the review and quick answer. For me a car must handle great first then other things comes for me.. So I bought a new Fiesta 1.1 85 ps and waiting for 1.0 140ps to come to sale for my country (Turkey). Also I m not a fan of DSG :)
Hello Umur, I will be testing the Ecosport later this year, but I believe it's a manual. I would imagine the auto will be the same as used in the Fiesta though, so if you want an idea of what I think of it, check out this video: th-cam.com/video/MFP8fUgiSzg/w-d-xo.html
Hello everyone! Thank for taking your time to watch my first drive of the new 1.5 litre SEAT Ibiza FR. I hope you enjoy the video and I'm sorry that it was filmed in such awful conditions! A more scenic setting would have been nice too, but hey, you have to work with what's in front of you...
IBIZA, non IBITA!
Just taken delivery of my Seat Ibiza FR Sport and couldn't be happier.
Apart from the door rattle on this car it’s a nice drive. Got a FR TSI brand new 6 mi on the clock and still have a door rattle issue. It’s a bit of a let down but it’s still a nice drive and looks great.
Hi there, thanks for watching, and thanks for the comment.
that doesn't sound normal, have you went back to the dealer to get it checked/fixed?
I'm between this and a Swift Sport for my next car. This is better equipped and faster but the Swift Sport looks and feels more fun. What do you think?
I'd rather have this as it's better to drive, offers higher quality, and is more spacious. It is, however, more expensive, so you'll need to bear that in mind. Thanks for watching.
Not bad for a 1.5 engine at all! Awesome video bro
Cheers buddy! Thanks for watching
Would love this engine in an Ibiza that has the digital cockpit.
It's the first time I am watching your channel but I must say it feels awesome! Super informative and you are not boring talking like some car journalists inside of this platform called TH-cam are!
Hey António, thank you very much for the great feedback, it means a lot! Thank you so much for watching, be sure to subscribe to see more 👍
Car Obsession Sure sir! I do have the notifications on already!
António José Top man!
Another great vid. Enjoyed all the SEAT Ibiza videos.
Thanks for the great feedback K C, and of course, thanks for watching.
Nice video!
Would you prefer fiesta stline 140hp or this ibiza 150hp?
Very good question, and a tricky one. The Ibiza is the better looking car and feels more grown up, but the Fiesta is more fun to drive. I'd be happy with either to be honest. Thanks for watching.
Nice review. I find it a little bit on the expensive side. 17 grand for a small car, I'm not sure it's still the performance bargain it used to be. Perhaps the Leon makes more sense.
Yes, I see what you mean, but have a look at its competitors and you'll find the pricing is about right. Superminis aren't as cheap as they used to be. Take a look at the new Swift Sport, that's pushing £18,000!
Great review
Thanks for the positive feedback, and thanks for watching.
Looks and sounds like a great engine.
Nodge X Yup, it's a cracking car! Thanks for watching.
Nice review. Im looking at buying the FR. Should I go for the 1.5 or the 1.0 tsi. Is the 1.5 worth the extra premium over the 1.0. Thanks
For me, I'd definitely go for the 1.5 litre. The 1.0 litre is a decent engine, and it's more fun that I expected, but you'd probably miss the grunt of the 1.5. If you can though, test drive both and then you can know for certain which you'd prefer, thanks for watching Mick.
Thats the plan. The 1.5 wont be available in Ireland until the end of the year so will have to wait until then to test drive. Thanks for the reply
Ah I see, I know it may seem a long way off, but I think you should wait.
Car Obsession not available in UK either until end of year. Production of the 1.5 version has been suspended.
benjyyy Where did you hear/read that?
They should make a cupra version of this car. The Ibiza is a vw polo underneath, and so is the fabia and the polo gti and the fabia vrs are hot hatchbacks so, why can’t there be an Ibiza cupra.....Seat please please please please make an cupra version of this car 🙏🏻
Great Video Review and a great Car as well
Thanks for the feedback Jamie, thanks for watching.
For slightly more money you can get a polo gti with 200bhp... and that is with extras like dsg
slightly more my ass almost 10k
Also a fiesta st 1.5 200hp
Don't forget guys, "this isn't a hot hatch" but the Suzuki Swift (not mentioned here, to be fair) with less power and a slower 0-60 IS a hot hatch! According to other motoring journalists... I'll keep my Ibiza 1.4tsi and see you on the roads!
To be clear. 1.4/1.5 tsi Ibiza are a junior hot hatch. See you on the roads Ford ecoboost/Vauxhall eco tec drivers!
Hello John, thanks for watching. I wouldn't class this nor the new Swift Sport as a hot hatch. Both cars have a 0-60 that is too slow to meet this criteria.
Hi John, I'd class this a warm hatch if you ask me. A junior hot hatch would be something like the Fiesta ST, 208 GTI, Clio RS, etc. If Cupra decide to make a hot version of the current Ibiza then it'd be a junior hot hatch. I really hope they do as this is a cracking little car, so to not make it even sportier would be a bit of a crime.
Hello. Just wondered if you could give your opinion, is the 1.5 Evo worth the extra money over the 1.0 115ps? I had the previous FR and have to agree the steering felt light, although grippy and capable. Just wondered is the 1.5 a heavier engine and therefore gives the steering a little more weight? Thanks for your review, Tom
Hi Tom, thanks for watching. It's funny you say that, as the steering did feel a tad heavier than the 1.0 litre model, but I wasn't sure whether that was my imagination or not. Personally, I think the 1.5 is worth the extra money. Both cars are great though.
Car Obsession thank you for the quick response. I’ll be getting a test drive arranged soon. I’ve currently got a polo mk6, which is so refined and a lovely car to drive, but lacks the fun factor. It appears the FR has improved it’s refinement, yet keeping the fun element so hopefully will be the perfect balance for me. Keep up the good work and thanks again 👍!
@@muddimert Did you get this car? I'm looking at buying a second hand one on the 18 plate.
i like this version of ibiza
grosniaco You're not the only one! Thanks for watching.
Good first car, what would the insaurance be for a 1st time driver
TOM LIT8 Hi Tom, thanks for watching. That's a difficult to answer as there are a lot of variables to be had there. It's insurance group 19 if that is any help though.
Thank u
TOM LIT8 No worries. I reckon this would be too costly to insure for a new driver - the 1.0 litre would probably be a better choice.
seat ibiza the best car...
Ordered this beaut today. Desire red and the 1.0 95hp fr
How long is the waiting list? Some people have had to wait a few months for theirs to arrive. Thanks for watching.
@@CarObsession Well it was a complete factory new model and not showroom. She'll arrive in May. Not too bad in my opinion but sadly you don't see this awesome car often here in the Netherlands :(
What's the go-to supermini in the Netherlands? Volkswagen Polo? Ford Fiesta?
@@CarObsession There's a lot of em. I do see a lot of older superminis though, for example the 4th gen Ibiza and 5th gen Polo are quite common. I believe I haven't seen a new Fiesta more than once!
Ha, the Fiesta is REALLY popular in the UK - it's funny what's popular in different markets.
First video I've watched, and can you really trust someone who can't even demist the windows
Hello Steve, thanks for watching. As mentioned in the other comments below, the windows don't look as bad as what they did on camera and it's tricky to have the fans on when you're filming as the noise causes problems with the audio. I was demisting in between takes and I always made sure I had enough visibility to remain safe. If you watch any of my other videos, you'll see that I do not make a habit of this. Therefore, I'd urge you to watch more of my content before making a final judgement. Having said that, my FR vs. FR video was shot on the same day as this video, so you'll probably draw the same criticisim. By all means Steve, I'm not saying you're wrong, but the ISO setting on the camera made it look as if I couldn't see out the car, which is not the case. I had to bump the ISO WAY up as it was quite dark in the car (even with my LED light) due to poor weather.
Dude driving with fogged up windows is really dangerous. Use the AC so you can actually see that pedestrian crossing while looking on his phone.
Don't worry Mike, I did put the AC on in between breaks in filming. I can't leave it on as I'm filming as it's heard on the audio. Fear not though, I had enough visibility to keep safe, plus the camera makes it look worse than what it was. Thanks for watching.
You should experiment with a high cut filter. I normally can get rid of the AC hissing noise with this. Just a tip! :)
Mike Can you use a high pass filter with a clip on mic though?
@@CarObsession You can easily filter the sound afterwards.
How would you do it? I've never tried. Thanks for watching by the way.
What are your thoughts about the xcellence model?
Hello Asim, thanks for watching. It's difficult to comment as I've only driven the FR and the SE models.
@@CarObsession i understand
10years ago £17.500 gets you a 5Cylinder Focus ST 😢
Tottenham Hotspur the mighty pretenders All about that inflation my friend. Thanks for watching!
And 15 years ago 17k got me my SEAT Leon CupraR 210hp which I still have with 270k km on the clock. Its 1.8l turbo 20V is indestructible.
Nexus Achiles LOL its funny you should mention the Mk1 LCR because I own a Audi S3 1.8t 225 with the brembo calipers off it . And Yes the Engine's are Super, But complex , slightly problematic.
I own a T Roc with the 148 bhp 1.5 tsi evo engine on manual transmission. This engine has cylinder de-activation to improve fuel economy. Unfortunately this engine suffers from hesitation or judderig (as if stalling) at low constant speeds between 15 and 20 mph on 1st and 2nd gear and particularly after a cold start. The suspicion is engine misfire and despite two VW software upgrades the problem is not cured. So does the SEAT with the same engine have this issue or is the ECU tuned differently?
Hi John, thanks for watching. I've not heard of any issues and I would have thought the ECU is configured the same.
Same happens in every 1.5 evo engine. Havent heard of a cire fot it yet.
It seems to be a systemic problem. I don't think the 1.5 evo works well with the current manual transmission. DSG may be better suited. Personally I am very disappointed with this engine as it sounds rough and is hestitant at low constant speeds.
Strange my Mazda 3 2.2 150 BHP has a similar issue, it's quite hard to get a smooth change from 1st to 2nd from a cold start, it's like a hesitation not smooth. Sometimes try and change how I drive to remedy it.🤔
@@johnmitchinson9577was it ever fixed? Looking to buy one
Does this car have any electric rear windows? I’ve heard that the fr version only has wide down windows at the back.
Hello Vhira, the FR has wind down rear windows as standard, thanks for watching.
But is there an option of adding electric windows in the fr version?
Going by the online configurator, now you can't. Well, you can't in the UK, it may vary in other markets.
i own a ibiza fr line and it has electric rear windows lol, english is not my first language but im pretty sure i understood that correct
Hello Michi, as I said markets may vary, but in the UK it does not appear to be an option.
I do like the car but it should have abit more power preferably about 170 to 180bhp. It doesn’t make any sense not to make a cupra it already shares the polo chassis (which it always has done) so ready for the polo gti engine (which it always has done) so not like they need to invest in a new engine
Hmm, I think the power is fine as it is to be honest, the faster FRs normally have this kind of power. Yeah, you have the Polo GTI, but I still think an Ibiza Cupra would be worthwhile. Thanks for watching.
Car Obsession well it’s just a shame the fr of your generation was considered a hot hatch with same output as the polo gti. In today’s terms even the diesels have same or more bhp and huge amount of torque over the petrols. It’s enough for normal driving and over taking just wished it was abit more
Yeah, I see what you mean buddy, that's why I think a Cupra model would be worthwhile.
I'm guessing that they will wait until the manual becomes available for that engine, a DSG only Gti is a travesty. You can get the 1.5 mapped to 170-180 pretty easily though.
Jack Mc I’ve seen them mapped in golfs they make decent power
It could be classed as a hot hatch
How so?
How fast does it go 0-60 in?
Hi J, as mentioned at 1:12 it does 62mph in 7.9 seconds, thanks for watching.
Shame about the lack of voice sync on the video
Hi Peter, thanks for the feedback. I've just watched the video again and it seems fine to me? At present 495 have watched this video and you're the only person that has mentioned this - could it be a buffering problem your end?
Seems perfectly in sync to me
Thanks God for that! I was starting to get worried. Thanks for letting me know.
Seat ibiza too bad at moose test made by km77..
We don't encounter many moose in the UK, so I think we'll be fine ;) All joking aside, that's a fair enough point, but you can't deny that apart from that shortcoming, it's a safe car. Thanks for watching Umur,
Car Obsession Thanks for the review and quick answer. For me a car must handle great first then other things comes for me.. So I bought a new Fiesta 1.1 85 ps and waiting for 1.0 140ps to come to sale for my country (Turkey). Also I m not a fan of DSG :)
No worries, Umur, thanks for commenting.
Car Obsession Do you mind to review Ecosport model? If yes can you use 1.0 125 ps automatic version please. Thank you
Hello Umur, I will be testing the Ecosport later this year, but I believe it's a manual. I would imagine the auto will be the same as used in the Fiesta though, so if you want an idea of what I think of it, check out this video: th-cam.com/video/MFP8fUgiSzg/w-d-xo.html
Badge appeal a Fiesta... really?
The Ford Fiesta is a very popular car in the UK - thanks for watching.