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Chameleon CHA-MPAS 2.0 Portable Ham Radio Antenna System | Best Portable Ham Radio Antenna?
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- The Chameleon CHA-MPAS 2.0 just might be the best portable Ham Radio antenna that you can get today, due to its versatile configurations and compact size. Take a look at this video and let me know what you think about this great Ham Radio antenna.
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I got this antenna this week after waiting for about 2 months on back order directly from Chamaeleon, it is expensive and not in everyone's budget. Chamaeleon makes stuff for the military and dose not discount much for the Ham market. I am impressed with it in the vertical config on my first 3 days with it out in the park. Used the short wire as a counter poise laid on the ground. Talked across the country on 100 watts. Good to see the other reviews about the threads on the whip stripping, I'll be extra careful with that. I have been using their Ecomm 2 end fed, it is is also a great antenna and versatile. Chameleon is not cheap but it is very good.
I have an MPAS 2.0 and I love it. I do POTA exclusively and my last 12 activation have been with the MPAS vertical. Very easy and quick to set up, just drive the stake into the ground and screw the two pole assemblies and the counterpoise- done. I have not even taken out the wire portion of the MPAS, maybe one day I'll give it a try but the need for masts (or trees) makes this a less desirable option. While working POTA activations, I have made several DX contacts (Hungary and Scotland) with the vertical elements of the MPAS and have no trouble reaching stations all across the country and Southern Canada from central Texas. For POTA, portable or field day this antenna system is tops.
What radio are you using with it? Do you use an external tuner? I worry about SWR if I couple this with my IC-705
Jason, the manpack portable is designed to be used while wearing the backpack, like in movies showing a radio man in a platoon with the antenna and radio on his back and a handset type microphone.
I cant wait. My MPAS 2.0 arrives tomorrow and I plan on putting it to use ASAP with my IC-705. I was actually thinking the same thing, all my other antennas, including my DX Commander Expedition will be stored right in the same backpack, that way when I want to do a slower, or Inverted V or L, I already have a spare mast in there to set it up with.
Had this for over a year the best backpack portable antenna I have, is it worth the cost as its not cheap, yes worth every penny great video :)
I love mine have only used the vertical but want to try the other configs
As always great demonstration Jason. I would love to see a video on your take on the CHA CAP HAT that can be added to this system.
I love that bag. Holds a ton. My ONLY complaint is that they use plastic for the connectors. I'm looking into replacing them with metal. I keep my CHA TDL, CHA EMCOMM IIIp and 10M push-up mast, 705 in a Harbor Freight case, Powerfilm Lightsaver Max, a Bioenno 12Ah battery, coax, analyzer, etc. Pretty much a grab and go solution for POTA.@
I use a 3 rifle range bag for all my portable antenna gear, buddipole and this, plus all the cables and what not. Works pretty good.
Similarly, I picked up a bag for a telescope.
TIMBUK2 (large) Backpack (on sale $60) holds radio, antennas, accessories. . . Also backpack has multiple use ; )
I use the inverted v for most of my pots activations. Works great. Just have a tuner and it works great.
I have the MPAS 2.0. Used it in 2021 Field Day as a Vertical and Inverted V. Made contacts all over the east cost. Used it with a Icom 7100 and a Tuner. Looks like they have upgraded the back pack since I bought mine. The Mil Whip Extension does not fit inside my pack. There are straps on the outside of the pack to hold the Extension. Also bought the top hat option but have not had a chance to try it.
I used a Half Wave End fed and 5 watts on field day and made contacts all over the United States. What was the difference in making contacts all over vs. just one coast, the antenna.
I use an MPAS 2.0 in a semi-permanent ground mounted vertical configuration with the capacitance hat and 12-radials in my backyard with excellent results. It's about 16' from my 2-story house and about 40' from overhead service power lines. There is a lot of QRM in my suburban area, but it is effective across most HF bands.
Another very good video, Jason. Nice to see the included feed line coax that I didn’t know was included. I am learning what portable antenna I would like to use for POTA and this is on the list. I love the versatility it has. 73
I've got it... I like it. The lickidy split vertical is my favorite.
It seems to be it’s a great antenna made with quality parts. However, it seems like it should come supplied with that additional needed pole for most of the advertised configurations…
I agree considering its $550
I agree with you
Indeed - You should look into the CHA TDL which can be achieved with the MPAS by adding the CHA HUB KIT. It's a modular system like the Lego Block. You create your own antenna system according to your specific needs with the same antenna kit.
I already had a 25ft mast and I use that and a tree or structure for additional support... Mostly NVIS for RACES ops
Super flexible! As I already have it, I could test these configurations.
Never thought on this.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Much love 💕
Matthias 👋
DL1NDG
That mic is incredible. Did you change the audio at all from it? Impressive. What is it?
Just received mine, enjoyed your demonstration.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey Jason great video about the MPAS antenna.
WD5ENH
Steve
Great demo of the many configs
Очень интересно. Я сам использую антенну, сделанную из основания и удлиняющей катушки-вариометра от PAC-12 и штыря 5,3 метра от MFJ. Противовесы на каждый диапазон по одной штуки. Распологаю радиально - "звездой". Работает 10-15-17-20-30-40 метровых диапазонах. Работал /P, /QRP с Австралией, Новой Зеландией, Германией, Израилем, США, Канадой.
На диапазоны ниже 40 метров, а точнее 80 метров и тем более 160 метров, низко подвешанные диполи "превращаются" в антенну зенитного излучения. В полевых условиях эффективнее "наклонный луч", заброшенный на дерево поивыше, + противовес 1/4 в сторону предпологаемых корреспондентов, пока не нашёл ничего.
Спасибо за интересный материал.
Пишу на русском, так как мой англиийский чудовищен. А онлайн-переводчики, при двойном переводе, выдают абракадабру.
Удачи! 73.
I've found that adding radials in the vertical configuration greatly improves performance, albeit at the cost of increased SWR.
Hi, I'm considering this antenna for POTA, but I wonder if you could explain your definition of 'performance'. I seems as though your experience with it requires a higher SWR (lower radiated power) to gain performance. What does that mean exactly, thanks :).
@@gsahookah599 this is all theory, and i'm no expert, so take what I say with a bit of salt and experiment for yourself. However, this has been my experience and understanding...
The MPAS is built to be a system that is quickly deployable on several bands with minimum setup time and equipment required. To make said equipment "resonant," a transformer is used to bring the impedance on the desired freqs to within tolerable levels. Transformers all end up having a bit of loss, with that power being eaten up as heat. This power lost doesn't return to the radio, and may give the illusion that power is being radiated instead of "burned off" via a lower SWR.
Vertical antennas typically require a sufficient ground radial system to be effective, and give something the radiated signal to "bounce off of" similar to a mirror. Without a sufficient radial system, a ground mounted vertical may in fact radiate satisfactory power, only to have the ground right beneath the antenna soak up much of it.
Between power lost in heat and ground losses, its easy to have a very low SWR and not effectively radiate a signal (remember, a dummy load gives a 1:1 SWR and radiates practically nothing). Another thing to remember is that a slightly higher SWR doesn't necessarily translate to massive power losses being radiated. A 2.5:1 SWR only relates to approximately an 18% loss in power radiated. There are so many variables that its impossible to tell you exactly how many to use, or if you NEED to use them at all. I have personally found that I get stronger signal reports when using a number of different radials with the MPAS (and I also adjust the vertical to be close to what a 1/4 wave vertical would be, so IMHO I am losing less power to the higher SWR than I would to ground/heat loss and a lower SWR at the radio.
😂probably wind in the Microphone now...😂
Planning on getting this after my first dipole rig. It is on my top 5 antennas to get.
great video Jaison thanks 73 from kb2uew
In configuration 1, Manpack Portable, i think it assumes the bag is on your back and you are using it mobile, hence why it doesnt have the extension. Maybe they assume youre walking around the desert where there is no tree cover.
Chameleon is a FIRST-RATE company!
I couple add ons and you have the tactical delta loop. Along with the cha dB add on then you also have Vhf/Uhf
Make a vid on how you actually pack the MPAS 2
Great idea
An idea is to have an inventory list laminated so you know you have everything when you leave your base/house and when you pack up to come back.
Thanks Jason. Some food for thought there. Seems decent enough.
Jason this is another excellent video! KC9QVE Marion,Indiana
I would add this to it: Portable Dual-Band Vertical or Horizontal Antenna for MPAS 2
Portable dual band for vhf/uhf would be a nice addition
Excellent product and well presented.
Jason, I heard that the 705 fits nicely in that bag and still has room for other gear. Have fun!
Yeah I bet it does
I carry my 705 in the MAPAS 2.0 backpack most all the time. Got room for that and a Bioenno battery. I do leave the wire antenna spool portion of the MPAS in the car but I do it because I choose to not because it will not fit. As a matter of fact I think the bag is a bit TOO big. The MPAS 2,0 system is very versatile and ..... it works!
@@bricktrainfan Yeah! That's the real deal. If it's going on my back for an extended hike, (more than .5 of a mile) it has work, and work well. Be effective. Enjoy the hobby! 73 KE0OAP
Thank you for this interesting video! 01:47 What is this detail? A transformer? What is the transformation coefficient?
It's a balun or unun, not sure which
@@HamRadio2 I thank you for a quick and accurate answer.🤝
Thank you for a great review!
Is this antenna compatible with a standard camera tripod?
Great review thanks 🙏 73!
Great video, thank you.
Good overview Jason - cheers
Thanks for watching
Nothing new here, One shorted star picket and a telescopic squid pole on top of it plus some light wire on a roller and some coax and WALLA, all done at a low cost ( and better height might be achieved with 1.8 to 29ft telescopic squid pole, a great option, they are light, easy to carry, durable and cheap as). If you got some extra coin ( most of us do not) or can not be bothered making your own than go for it (the quality won't let anyone down), just remember, on a beach most any configuration you put up ( and tune ) will work very well.
(i tried wire dipole directly on top of the beach sand about 35 ft from the water and got impressive dx, lol)
Thanks! 🙂 Seems like this would also be a good choice for absolute newbies (like myself) who want to make sure their portable antenna really works and thus do not want to risk building one on their own. Do you know if the MPAS requires and external antenna tuner even when using it with a Yaesu FT-710 (that has its built-in automatic tuner)? 🤔
Depending on what configuration you use, it shouldn't require a tuner at all. But the internal tuner with the FT-710 can be used with this antenna, no problem.
nice. would i need an additional tuner for my 7300 in a mobile or field day type setup?
Great video. Really shocked there was no wind noise in what was obviously a high wind environment. Information presented in video was great too. What mic setup did you use to record it, if I can ask?
In this video I used a DAT with a lapel mic and synched the audio to the video afterwards
Can someone explain how these components add up to $600.00?
Might be a dumb question but could this be used for uhf/ vhf? If so how well is it?
Yes with the CHA DB VHF/UHF.
This is my first antenna. I’ve been borrowing an end feed dipole. I didn’t know it would do uhf/vhf. I’m new. Looking forward to learning this system. KI5WWK.
Looking for a part 90, 50-100 watt mobile radio and backpack antenna for Search and rescue.
What do you guys recommend?
FYI I don't know much of anything about radios.
"Man-pack" infers the operator is wearing the pack containing the radio, battery, tuner and antenna. The operator simply tosses out the counterpoise when ready to transmit. Granted the hybrid micro doesn't screw into the radio like most military HF man-pack radios but securing it to the pack somehow is the next best thing for portable HF.
I am a new Ham. Your videos are helpful. I recently purchased a Yaesu FTDX10 (largely based on your recommendation). Will the internal tuner in my Yaesu FTDX10 handle this or will I need an external tuner? I am hoping to do POTA. I am looking at the following two CHA products: CHA MPAS (Modular Portable Antenna System) 2.0 $625 or CHA MCC POTA Heavy $674.00? Or do you recommend I try something else instead?
If you setup this antenna as the instructions tell you, you won't need a tuner at all. The antenna itself is adjustable to be resonant on multiple bands. The internal tuner of the FTDX10 does work well, but with a resonant antenna, you won't need it.
ABR is my to go coax. They can do custom lenghts and ends. For us in H-Town, they can do will call. Give them a few days.
ABR is the brand of coax used on the ham station at Houston TranStar. I figured if it was good there, it is good for my station.
Would love to know how this compares to the super antenna mp1dmax. Any thoughts on this? Maybe a future video???
Never heard of that antenna, I will look it up
@@HamRadio2 I learned about it from Julian OH8STN. They both look like great portable options for field use and emcomm
@@HamRadio2 careful. Ppl like this are paid to promote products and spam channels to gain advertising of a product. Out of the blue asking for a comparison of 1. A high quality military contractor's equipment and 2. A no name that no one has heard of.
@@ahole5407 I've heard of the Super Antenna. It isn't a no-name product
Great info on various antenna set ups. NM5SP
While packing all your antennas in the backpack, just don't forget your radio and power supply. ;)
It's expensive. Been thinking about buying one and screwing it into a WRC tripod base. Banging huge spikes into the ground is often futile here.
I would have rather seen this test done in a grassy field. The ocean gives us an exaggerated view of this antenna kits capabilities. I love the concept, I know Chameleon makes quality gear (I have their end fed Encomm3) but would like the activation to be under less optimized conditions. This is a pricey bit of kit.
Other activations at different locations are being worked on
It is a great antenna, but the brass threads of the MIL Whip 2.0 stripped. I contacted Chameleon. They said they had replacement base cap and could send it to me. I sent them my address and never heard back. 2 weeks later I emailed them again and said that there would be a cost for the part & shipping. I agreed because I wanted to use my MPAS 2.0 in the vertical setup and had them send me an invoice via Paypal. I paid the invoice in Paypal and been waiting for a month now for the part. I've emailed them since and haven't gotten a reply.
I had an issue right after I got my MPAS 2.0 with the shock cord in the MIL Whip 2.0 snapping after using the antenna once (yes I folded back down correctly). Their customer service was great with that. Not sure what's going on with them now. Maybe someone from Chameleon Antenna will see this and help me out.
I've deployed mine a few times and never had a problem
@@HamRadio2 Used mine like 30 times??? For the majority of all of my activations. Somewhere along the way the threads of the MIL whip’s base cap got stripped. I paid them like $18 for the replacement part & shipping and haven’t heard anything back for 4 weeks.
They should have at least sent you an email letting the you know that piece was on backorder and it would be X number of weeks before it was shipped. No matter how good your product is, bad customer service will cost you sales. Maybe they have shifted all their resources to sales and production? After watching videos, it seems some of their assemblies are outsourced. Hopefully they will be caught up soon.
@@jimmarcum7362 That’s all I want is a response stating something. I understand how some businesses can shift what they’re doing to something more pressing or whatever, but have the courtesy to inform customers that send inquiries. I just want them to tell me what’s going on.
@@K3JRZOnTheAir I can understand your pain, you hate to keeping sending them emails. Maybe a phone call would get more attention? You hate to have an expensive piece of equipment broke and the manufacture not being responsive. Not good.
So many videos showing how to set up antennas, so few show them in actual use.
Check out any of my POTA or Field Day videos
Buddistick Pro or Chameleon 2.0 ? Please someone help me
Two poles could be a show stopper in some places.
True
That is why I use the vertical arrangement almost all the time.
Jason, I swear you are watching my computer searches. I just heard about and looked this up today, and a few weeks ago you reviewed a radio I looked up. Just don't share the rest of my search history ok?
Lol
Hay you should get nose ring to match your manley earring great look for a dude helps with signal loss and reception I guess!!🤣
I'm going to guess you were born somewhere around the Great Depression....
It is expensive and for most of the setups you keep saying you will need additional equipment. For what it costs it should have everything you need I think I will go the way of Buddy pole.
Expensive, but well worth it.
Stake in the ground could be a big NO NO in some places.
Correct. Know the rules of the place where you are setting up.
Best portable antenna is Ed Fong j pole. Do you have any in your store?
Ed Fong J-Pole isn't an HF antenna. They are on back order
@@HamRadio2 i know, but at least I got somewhat of an answer as to why I haven't received the antenna I purchased.
Ed had a heart attack recently and is recovering.
@@ChrisRomp Yep, I am just not sure if he wanted that shared, so I haven't said anything myself.
@@bhcsedalia I have none to purchase right now. Once I get more in, I will open up the ordering page again.
This antenna is 12db or 2 full "S" units down in transmit power compared to a resonate antenna. This fact is not disputed even by Carl. I can do almost everything with a end fed half wave that can be done with this very expensive antenna. There has been nothing new when it comes to antennas for a very long time. Some of these "new" antennas (with their top secret epoxy filled cylinders....LOL) that have come out will 100% not perform as well as a simple end fed. I really wish that all the U Tube radio channels would start using a reference antenna to compare all the new wiz bang antennas against. They all radiate....Which one does a better job or at the least the same for 1/10th the price. I'm really over glowing reviews unless it can be proved that these very expensive antennas are really better. I'll stay with my Buddistick and home made 49-1 end fed. I understand that reviews are a part of what make the channel popular. I just want to see a reference antenna used so that people can actually see if spending $550.00 vs. $50.00 for an end fed half wave makes the wiz bang antenna worth the extra $500.00. I'm betting it doesn't. Anything else is misleading and dishonest. These antennas seem to be marketed to the "New" ham who does not have the knowledge and experience yet.. Those that have been around for a while know the truth when it comes to antennas. That repackaging an old design and adding $300 - $400.00 to the price tag does not make it work any better than the tried and true. I think that is the reason that most U Tubers doing park activations seem to stick with the end fed half wave. The are small, light and they work. All portable antennas are a compromise antenna. Some compromise more than others. As we used to say in the car world "If it don't run, chrome it". Stop and think...You can buy a Ziegu G90 and an end fed for less than this antenna. Jason, be the first to start using a "Reference" antenna when doing reviews. You'll make the masses happy....The antenna producers not so much.
@john Kaelberer Very true. Some of the poorest signals I've heard coming from POTA are running a FT-891 and the CHAMPAS-MOUSE 2.0. Wonder how this compares to the WTF-1 that W6LG talks about?
I don't really disagree with anything you said except for your sentiment. The theory that "we should always use the cheapest equipment available" is also misleading and dishonest, and it isn't a thought process I agree with. This antenna offers several solutions that you can't do with an EFHW, such as a true vertical configuration with a solid mast, plus coax with a choke. Is it better? Nah, probably not, in fact it is designed around an EFHW, it looks like, to me. But this overall theme I often see in comments in lots of videos is, "wow I can do that for alot cheaper" - my answer is...well, then go do it. Nothing wrong with using what you want to use, but if the only reason you are using it is because you don't want to spend money on Ham Radio - the greatest hobby in the world - then I don't follow that way of thinking.
@@HamRadio2 Hear hear, well said Jason
@@HamRadio2 I see what you are saying...but...not all of us have the $$$ to spend on an antenna like this one that is really not all that special and very expensive. It does many things OK, but not great. If I'm going camping, I want an axe, real knife, bow saw, not just a Swiss Army Knife. The money could be used for far better purposes. New Radio, New and better coax, New portable pole, Solar-Portable power, an antenna that performs excellent for the type of antenna it is, and so many other things that will make a difference in actual operation. Part of the hobby is being lost, the new idea is that you can buy contacts with money (which is true in some cases, but the product must actually perform), aka, the newest, coolest looking antenna to hit the market that look good on the surface but leave a lot on the table. I have no problem spending $$$ if the product works very well. There has really be nothing new in years as to antenna design. The Hex beam is the last I can think of. I get so much more satisfaction in making my own or improving a good antenna that I bought. These types of antennas tend to be marketed to the new ham. Those who have been around for a while, looking for portable will go with something that works like the end fed half wave or a Buddipole etc. Not the jack of all trades, master of none. This antenna will just end up in the corner after the person who buys it discovers it is not as effective as a proven antenna designed for the type of operation you are doing that results in more and clearer contacts. This is after all what the hobby is really about. And please, start using a "Reference Antenna" when doing antenna reviews. It will give a true picture of the performance of the antenna being reviewed. Otherwise there is nothing to really tell you how effective an antenna is. Prime example of another new wiz bang antenna, the "Go To" antenna. Just a resistor with a wire and really poor performance. Yet it has got a glowing review from another channel. What is "Dishonest" is not giving the whole story in reviews. I know you don't get free stuff if you are really honest about a product, but it sure will pay off with the people who watch and and support your content if a review actually had a reference to be compared to....in real time, A-B, A-B. Thanks for listening to my rant. I feel it's important to have all the facts possible. One question. If I potted a 49-1 balun in a fancy looking cylinder, added some extra bling, do you think I could market it for $350.00 ??? No different than what is being done by several company's who just put an old design into something that shines pretty and market it as something new. Only difference would be that mine would actually be a darn good antenna.....Just Say'in. Check out the review "Camelon MPAS vs. Wolf River Silver Bullet" by KB9VBR. After watching his review, if I were to buy the MPAS, it would only be because I like the looks of it or just want to play, not because I want the best performance. This is much more my idea of a review. Were I still to purchase the MPAS after viewing Michael's review, I would not feel so violated when it did not perform all that great,
You can use the 73' wire or the 25' as radiator or you can use both and make an OCF antenna that will behave EXACTLY like the CHA EMCOMM III P. You could also install the CHA HYBRID MICRO on a TRI-MAG mount put the MICRO + MIL EXT + MIL WHIP right in the middle of your car rooftop and an operate from anywhere where mounting in the ground would be impossible. You could cut your own wire length to make your OWN dipole with the MICRO as transformer. You could use 265' of wire and create a circular loop elevated at about 15' to 20' and create a SKYLOOP for 80M you could do the same with 140' and make one for 40M, you could put the MICRO between the MIL EXT and the MIL WHIP and get a vertical dipole for 6M, you could install the MICRO on the MIL EXT and use the MICRO and install the 73' as radiator and the 25' as counterpoise and now you've a NVIS antenna that will work on 40m, 60m and 80m... Use your imagination and you'll see what you can do with it!
It has mil spec grade parts, made in the USA, not Chinese junk.
That's why I like it
How to get that t-shirt????
I have a few left
I am looking for about your product place lace me a message .
When I post this , I am looking for more information no this .
I am looking for more information on how I can find one of these and how much did they write and we're acting how long it is and how much does it weigh
I need a portable antenna that works on 4 meg. What do you think? K7NFO
This will work on 6M, not sure about 4
@@HamRadio2 Yeah, I’m interested in the 75 meter band. Thanks for the quick reply! 73
Great antenna, to bad you can't get them. Out of stock. Grrr.
They’re back in stock!
We’re we really suppose to believe that the antenna was connected to a loose limp back back ( man pack confit) and standing up?
These TH-camrs are getting lazy now adays. And you can tell these videos are basically just a paid commercial.
I expect more from this channel and other serious ham radio channels. if you don’t want to go through the hassle of setting it up on the back pack- just say it. Don’t lie about it and use a camera angle to tell the lie.
Furthermore even if you did connect the antenna to the back pack, so what? Just a picture is all we get? Not gonna try running it?
What’s the point in showing us the setup if you don’t atleast hook it to a radio and spin the dial atleast.
As I said in the video, you have to have something in the backpack to weigh it down, if you use it in this configuration. It is useful in a rocky or concrete area where you can't use the ground stake.
Doing an activation with the antenna is next on my list - this video wasn't intended for that. I have hundreds of other videos where I do activate with various antennas.
Rather than looking down your nose and pointing fingers, perhaps asking me to make another video with details you would like to see is the way to go. I have certainly done this before for other viewers, but usually not when false and ignorant accusations are made.
$600, cant handle 100 FT8, needs trees or tripods, oh snap
It's just like everything else they sell, grotesquely overpriced!!! I have a F-Loop, as far as I'm concerned it's not worth throwing off a bridge !!!
This antenna is much better than the F-Loop
$500 for a pole and some coax... smh
You should find the person who's forcing you to buy this, or any, product and remove them from your life.
@@HamRadio2 Biden is the one forcing me to buy this or something similar.... you got any ideas on how to get rid of him?
Thanks…great review. I was expecting Frank to go paddling by behind you on a killer whale floaty.
Oh! Great idea for next time!