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Yeah I’ve never understood why my teachers always force us to take notes when we have everything that they’re saying in a textbook and then you’re so busy taking notes that you don’t pay attention to what they’re saying and then you miss the explanations and end up confused for an entire hour
tbh what I hated most in combination to this is something that would happen a lot in math classes. They'd discuss a procedure that is different from the book, but I'd usually learn to do it the way or ways the book explained it, but even though I'd do it using a correct process and get the right answer, they'd still mark it as wrong because they wanted to force the procedure they taught in the classroom instead. Idk if this is just a thing that's too common where I live, but yeah...hate it.
@@gengargang4510 I'm lazy to take notes but if it's a math class yes I would need to take notes but it'll cause me not to understand it. Especially if the teacher uses a method different to the book. I was just lucky my teacher is a young woman who just graduated so she'll accept any methods as long you get the correct answer. The problem is I need to take notes 🤣 because I have a problem remembering equations
What I took from this video: be focussed on the action of learning, thinking and engaging with the content instead of focused on taking notes. If you take notes (afterwards), they must be concise, straight to the point and useful for active learning. Some options are flashcards, mind-maps, flow charts and the Feynmann method.
As a nursing student who had her first clinicals, i also made the mistake of bringing the 9 page assessment form and trying to write down everything the patient was saying word for word. I ended up asking repetitive questions and taking such a long time. Second rotation i just spoke with the client and wrote what i heard afterwards. And its true, you can and will be able to remember everything.
@@KoiAcademy I'm glad I found your channel it's has helped me a lot ❤️ I too am a Nurse, however practicing in Germany. May I ask what you can recommend when studying languages? I think your methods in you channel really works, but confused which strategy to focus on. - Love from a Filipino working in Germany 🙂
This is exactly why lecturers/teachers should all provide the notes/slides before class, so students can just focus and add notes for comprehension or fill in digestible gaps, 60 minutes of transcribing equations, diagrams or dense text never helped anyone!
@@morninglift1253 ..studying by reviewing or rewriting things isn't effective, and digital slides help you go through information easily & allows you to use it later for active learning way more practically
my school has, what the call, reverse learning, or something. Basically, you take notes before the class, then you listen in class, having notes with you if you need to see again what they're on about, and with the time they saved by not having to wait for students to take notes, we do what would normally be homework, in class, and so that's good, since they say instead of how most schools have it, you can ask an actual teacher for your questions, instead of google. Plus, it allows teachers to better know where there are gaps in knowledge, since you can't just cheat and look it all up on google.
You should right down your own notes but you should read the material before hand. It can be hard to keep up with a lecture if it’s the very first time you are hearing the topic.
@@morninglift1253 You have been lied to sir. Mindlessly taking notes in not helpful at all but rather a waste of time and energy. There are better methods to study
Mike and Matty. You are the reason i've gotten great grades recently. You are covering soo many aspects of what it means to be a student. When i am at rock-bottom in my studies, your content honestly really gelps. I am greatful! I dig your new style of content aswell 🤟
Spot on. Having this issue right now in 3rd year biochemistry. Very complex small details and im just scrambling to write everything down because the class is so fast paced. Then it came time to study for the exam and I literally learned it for the first time from my notes, I never really learned in class, I just copied notes.
@@raisin4406 I would still write notes if needed but if your lectures are recorded you could be present in the moment and watch the recording later to make notes
@@rachl8400 I record the lectures on my own but I hardly find the time to actually study, let alone watch hours of lectures to write notes on. I also find that writing notes helps me concentrate rather than zone out during the lecture, so ig it's just what works for me
So I have ADHD and our biggest struggle is working memory. And being able to find the brain file we filed away after learning a new concept. If I didn't take notes I would have no clue what class was about. Even if I'm fully paying attention. It's my biggest struggle.
I love the humor and creativity of your videos. They also explain useful information in a more digestible way. Your storytelling skills have improved too. Great job guys
I've been taking notes for three years now, and the first thing you said about making comprehensive notes is *vital* , i've gotten quite good at it, to the point where i can break down what my teacher's saying mid lecture and actually make it easier to understand my notes later, not have them feel like big, fancy, and unnecessary word vomits, doing this has allowed me to halve definitions while still retaining the core essentials that make it up. now, with that said: screw teachers that want the definition word-for-word.
It's a skill i wish i had. Taking good notes. I'm trying hard to figure out how to do it. I haven't found a way yet. They always say you shouldn't do this or that, but actually applying it, isn't that easy if you haven't been guided on how to summaries or gather up the right info/details to make good notes, that actually help you also study later.
I struggle a lot with this because I've recently learned I might have ADHD (still need to get tested but it's very likely), and writing things down does help. I just recently discovered your videos and I enjoy the content you create. My problem here is the part about not taking notes. I can't sit there and listen in a lecture because as hard as I try to focus my mind will wander off whether I want it to or not. I don't think writing notes from the textbook is bad. It's honestly helped me a lot and reading through them helps as well because it's a lot more difficult for it to stick. The colored notes help me remember what is important. I think your video about notes is great but, and this is just my opinion and I don't know what other people think so I could be wrong correct me if I am please, I feel there should be mention for those of us who have a harder than normal time focusing. If y'all have a video on this I haven't seen it yet so I'm going in a little blind here, please forgive me. If y'all have any tips or videos or recommendations for someone like me I would be glad to take a look at those!
I struggle with the same problem & I found that this helps me. I try to get the chapter reading and the notes from the reading done prior to the lecture. I only take down information I didn't already know whilst in the lecture or anything that I could see adds value to my notes. after the lecture either the same night or the following day I'll add whatever quick notes I took down in the lecture to my original notes. (if digital not taking it's a lot easier, but if analogue notetaking I would add them in on sticky notes in the area that needs to be added)
another thing for me is I can only take in auditory information sometimes and if I look at the professor while they're talking I will not truly listen to what they're saying so I take out a colouring book and start to colour so my hands are busy but my mind is listening to the lecture
@@jadziafamili9547 I'm all online. Closest thing I have to a lecture is TH-cam videos from my philosophy professor. I gotta read and highlight everything else.
I also struggle with this, my whole life nobody had forced me to take notes, but ever since I tried it I felt like the information could actually go through my mind and process it. I get distracted too easily, to the point that I can't just sit and listen to what the teachers are trying to teach me, I think taking notes of almost everything I hear helps me put all my mind into what they are saying, so I'm not sure whether to follow his advice or not :(
Yes! Someone who defends this idea! Thank you! I hate to take a lot of notes. I cannot not to think about the grammar and orthography and making notes somewhat nice so I can comprehend it later. And "write by hand to memorise better" theory... No, dear teachers, I remember the information because I studied with proper technics AFTER the class, definetly not during intesive hand-painfull scribling. Conclusion: focus on comprehension during the class, write down what is lacking in already existing material, highlight what is absolutely necessary for exam (always specified by normal teachers).
I love your videos so much! totally agree with the point of how you should first understand the concept and then write it down. I use the feynman technique and flow charts very often and they are super helpful so it's good to know that I'm doing the right thing. however, I should probably use flashcards too! taking that advice from this video. good work guys!
I believe you should take notes after the professor or the person in front of you has completed explaining a topic or speaking about their issue. It's best to stay focused while they are teaching and write down what you have learned as soon as the professor completes the topic (on the same day). I do not recommend taking notes while the professor is speaking, as you'll stay unfocused and won't learn anything.
To improve your notes, follow Captain Dye's two principles for amazing notes: 1. *Conciseness and Comprehension:* - Avoid transcribing word-for-word; instead, focus on understanding the material. - Let the information sit in your working memory before taking notes. - Write concise notes in your own words after comprehending the material. - Consider using methods like the Feynman Technique, mind maps, or flow charts. 2. *Reviewability with Active Learning:* - Ensure your notes are useful for later studying. - Avoid creating large walls of text that are passive and not conducive to review. - Make use of active learning tools, such as spaced repetition flashcards. - Organize notes in a way that facilitates efficient review and engagement with the material. Remember, the goal is to be present, focus your cognitive load on learning, and create notes that enhance comprehension and active recall during review.
Kind of not related to the video but I am just so appreciative of this universe and community you guys built with Cajun Koi Academy. I love the lessons and the people I meet. It's so useful and immersive and honestly even though I love our still sorta small (but growing) community I will be so disappointed if you guys don't blow up because of how amazing this all is! That's all have a good day and keep working hard, I'm a huge fan
This is actually make sense! I am medical student and a huge note taker nerd. It felt incomplete if im not jotting down every word from my lecturer or my patient during practical. In the end, im not reviewing my notes at all because it's messy. Then i tried to take history from my patient without scribbling anything. Be more present in the conversation and suprisingly, i was able to remember the details. I guess this video explains it. Thank you! By the way, i wish i discovered this channel sooner as im in my final year of medschool. But it's never too late to change i guess. wish me luck
When it comes to college classes, remembering is more important than "learning." So notes are a must. When a professor says something in lecture and you don't take good notes, it won't matter if you learned 75% of it using the technique in the video because you forgot 25%. And you don't know to study that 25% because it wasn't written down or known to be covered.
I think this would be true if stuff like lecture slides, recordings, other peoples notes, textbooks, etc. didnt exist. the content is always avaliable to you and so is office hours and meetings with teachers. if it was just about memorizing you wouldnt need to even be in the lecture. Just take notes from home.
Once I've read another article where they claimed that you should take notes. Honestly I feel like taking notes forces me to pay more attention on the lecture. If I just listen my brain just starts to think about other stuff then I realize "shit I didn't listen". But sometimes I feel like I would like to take notes, but I have so much difficulty to understand what the prof is telling, its Impossible without stopping to understand.
I love the idea of being present in the moment, but I would suggest this is not a "one size fits all" solution. As an ADHD person with auditory processing issues, class where I don't take notes or doodle is basically a class I didn't attend - I end up distracted, or, if it is a teacher with "wall of text on slides and hours of endless talking" style of teaching, I will probably retrieve about 10% of information said during such class. For me (handwritten) note taking is a way for me to structure the topic in my brain and I found out I learn best from my own handwriting - I tend to remember how the topic was structured in my notebook visually. You could tell I need the sound-to-visual translation, and the only way for me to do that efficiently and learn stuff that was said during a lecture (and it's not in the textbook) is to take notes.
I randomly found this vid in the midst of a desperate search for note taking advice since I'm back in the classroom for the first time in 5ish years and have always struggled with taking good notes... and @0:27 I had already subbed. The vibe is impeccable and after sifting through countless "aesthetic note taking" vids, your A1 advice was just what I needed!
I want to try to type questions during class instead of actually writing the answers so that I can later answer them. I've found it useful to only write down what I actually understand so that I can have a written record of how I processed the info instead of the info itself, but at the same time I don't want to forget important things said or seen during class, so that's why I feel like writing questions is the way to go
My problem is many of my lecturers will say information that isn’t on the slides they’ve given us, which would mean I’d have to go back to the reference and that has a lot of extra information that it feels like a waste of time. One of my classes doesn’t even have a reference, so i have to make sure to write down what is said in the lecture. Also, I realized that I tend to zone out really easily if I’m not taking notes. Especially if the lecture is boring (and most of them are). But I agree that we should focus on taking more comprehensive and useful notes rather than just transcribing what is being said. I’ll try to take your advice on that.
I am more likely to focus on every word, after watching this vid I realize that I can read the book and write the main points or anything I want. That also helps with note-taking skills. Thank you a lot.
I don't know why I can't go out with the fix-idea I have to do notes although I know I lose time and I don't help myself much. In my notes I try to write down the way I understood something but when your professor is like "I will examine you on the material ONLY from the presentations., You have to know everything from this book,read only his book.,..." I struggle a lot. Hope I go out from this situation and enjoy more my medical journey :)
I was recording and writing what my professor says like a psychopath. I was only trying to understand them before the exams. My exam notes were sometimes good and sometimes bad, even though I worked even a lot. I was not able to work every chapter as well because of restricted time. I decided to not to take notes. Only listening and trying to understand, learning everything at the moment it is teached. Notes will be short and at the second stage. This video overlaps with what I think and let's see how will my final exams' point be like.
I take note in class for three reasons Sometimes the prof. Will say something that isn’t present in the lecture pdf Or i want a quick “preview” of the lecture that i can skim before diving into the actual lecture pdf ( wont lie I don’t review them later often ) Or simply being too sleepy and dont wanna lose my attention
I'm dyslexic and writing down the odd key word lodges it in my brain as important. It's hard to concentrate throughout a two-hour lecture without writing something down. My mind would wander off. TH-camr Samuel Suresh has an excellent solution: he just writes down questions that occur to him throughout the lecture. And when he reviews them, he tries to answer them and understand.
@ Esther Eley I’m am dyslexic too. Writing things down helps. My mind is a jumble mess and sometimes my thoughts get all muddy and unclear. Is that the same with you?
I learnt the double edged sword of notemaking the hard way. The way I make notes now is to get a personalized and detailed explanation of a topic. Using these detailed notes I make what I call short notes and memory cells. I focus on using these short notes and memory cells as active learning mechanisms by quizzing myself to see what I retain from the chapter. The short notes have minimal data so I also try remembering details to make sure my understanding is strong. Some times the concept is retention based, then I'll cram it by repetition in a Spaced manner and recalling what it was at random times.
I’m a business student online getting my BBA, since it is online and I have 3 children it’s super hard for me to focus completely so I take my notes and when they are asleep I read them and try to focus like this but I’m still so worried about my children waking up and Im afraid to loose my focus.
my chem teacher has printout notes that are just fill in the blanks from her presentations, this way i can write out the notes pre lecture and then focus on what the teacher is saying and dotting down any important information she says that isnt on the presentation! this method helps me understand concepts better and even when i dont study much for my chem exams i still get a high mark!
So working memory capacity ~7 Instead of offloading some novel information into notes, you are saying to process it all, doesn't that overload the ~7 faster as your not offloading information? The chunks of information being used in a conversation are novel pieces of information being attached to the schema (environmental organizing and linking principle) so are not in 'traditional' working memory therefore wouldn't require notes unlike when learning novel information in your original scenario. Learning requires focus, but it is the transfer of information into long-term memory and if you don't have the capacity to do that, the learning doesn't happen so the notes allow for later learning of material that would otherwise be left out. Or am I missing something? My research into the Feynman technique found it is not evidenced and doesn't satisfy Feynman's ideas of learning either. The technique is oversimplified and overlooks basic natural learning architecture. Notes that are useful for review are extremely subjective and I would appreciate clarity in that you stated that it is opinion not evidence. Rereading can be both passive or active as it is down to the learner's choice in thought. What goes on in a learner's mind is more directly related to learning than the mediums or techniques used. Spaced repetition flashcards basically say practice remembering. There are lots of ways to practice and remember so I was expecting a much larger list. I recognize the sarcasm and light-heartedness of the video and do enjoy the videos but I would like to see educational science move forwards in conversations so wanted to leave some of my thoughts. 😁 PS. The information processing approach adopted by cognitive science is not my approach to perception and action in learning so I do bias away from the science you reference just to be open and clear.
Without getting into too much detail, yes the avg person’s working memory ~7 items. Unlikely that most of us fully comprehend and process everything we learn into LTM on a first pass. Cognitive load theory just suggests that it’s more likely we can process it if we devote our attention to understanding vs note taking.
At 2:15, the point made is directly associable with something which Andrew Huberman discusses which he calls [x] gaps (I can’t remember the name - the function was more important than it’s title, I focused on retention of the concept ok? Lol). Basically, a study was carried out where people were studying/reading about something, and every so often a buzzer/alarm would go off at which point they were instructed to just stop for 10-20 seconds and do nothing. Their learning retention was markedly higher because this stoppage allows information processing and storage to occur. I think he states that they found that not only does the brain replay and revise the information during this break, but it also does so at 20-times the speed _and_ both forwards and backwards too. Pretty crazy stuff, and a super powerful ability to be aware to.
bros... make a video about how kitsune, tora and kuma brain types should prefer different types of studymusic.. and which combination suits well.. the last one was quite vague but now you make more explicit suggestions for each specific type
Okay great! But how do you simultaneously focus and then make flashcards? Would be really helpful to show us how you guys approach that. Thank you so much! Great content btw, really need this
You could certainly try - Remnote. Here you could focus on the source material and create flashcards simultaneously and take notes at the same time. This would be their answer if they replied to you. Remnote is a great tool. I have been using it for about 1 year now and I could say it is worthy of its claims.
The problem I have is I don’t have time to think about the lesson fully. I struggle with comprehending all the information my teachers give me. They give us information after information, and I struggle with that.
Your real-world example (3:37) illustrated the difference between *"following procedures" and "being present".. To me, that isn't "taking notes", that's reducing your awareness by following guidelines. Personally, I can be way more present when I make notes and keep my cognitive load clear. It's like marking a map with pins: indicating "where we've been already" so we can make clear, deliberate progress. I do have a problem with "copying the bullets the teacher has on display" and I get how that could inhibit my learning, but I've noticed that I remember more in the long-term by having notes to refer to. Usually, all it takes is a quick glance and the entire lesson floods back into my mind. It could be worth noting that I've been out of school for about a decade and it took me about 3 years of independence to actually learn how to learn. I took a break after high school to gain sense of myself before enrolling myself entirely into the system, so my perspective here is likely an outlier.
I really thought that I was dumb for being the only one in my classroom who doesn't take notes at all during lectures. Instead, I would be asking the instructor questions and sharing my thoughts in order for my brain to find connections between the schema and the topic at hand, and therefore understand the material effectively.
When I sit in lecture-lessons, I take notes of (important) things I didn't know + facts that I know I won't be able to remember. It's never a transcription - I can't write fast enough for that. I often feel that taking notes help me stay present and not zone out. I try to make some of into flashcards, but I find it takes a long time to make flashcards.
What ive always done is write down the keywords of what the teacher says or, if the teacher sucks at teaching, write down the key points on the slide. From there i draw boxes and connect points together which is really useful for when the teacher goes on tangents. Because i write down key words, it forces me to think back and remember what the teacher/textbook said about the key words.
My notetaking method is giving 90% attention to what is being explained while scribbling on a notebook i use only for that, and then AFTER i will note the key takes of the lesson/video/podcast
Common problem with note taking: Kind of Transcribing does work but slows down learning process 2 principles of better note taking: 1. "Your notes must be concise and written to improve comprehension" and write them in your own words Therefore: read first, understand and then take notes. Method: Feynman, mind map, flow chart 2."Your notes must be reviewable with active learning" Reason: there is no reason to take notes when you have to look at your textbook instead in your own notes Method: creating flashcards
I have a problem where I take so many notes from the teacher's slides that I don't pay attention to what they're saying when they explain the topic since I'm writing it all down as fast as I can. I'm saving up for an iPad with the apple pencil so I can download the teacher's slides as a pdf I can annotate on so I can actually pay attention to them while going over the content portably wherever I want to study. Plus, this will save me money printing out all of the packets of slides for the semester.
Could y'all perhaps factor in the variable of competitive exams and how can we tweak these methods to best adjust with them? I cone from South Asia and at the end of understanding it all and focusing, I still need to clear the license exams to get that Dr. Prefix. 🤷🏻♂️ So please consider factoring that in. 🙏🏻
this is why i started to audio record my lectures because otherwise i would waste all my time taking notes and not learning, so if then later on i had any doubt i just hear the lecture again
I follow a method that’s probably terrible. I take notes in class but only very rough ones on a report pad and only of the key points. Later I refine them in seperate notebooks for each subject and unit. This I do in conjunction with the lecture recordings repeating where needed. Usually takes about 2-4 hours of study outside of the lecture across 2-3 days but as an autistic individual it works for me.
I have a very tedious job where I need to listen to recordings of other people's conversations, and I have been taking notes during the llstening.. I find my notes are not very helpful. I will be trying this technique and see if I have improved recollection.
6:44 If taking note doesn't *provide* (the subtitle says "prevent", I think it's terribly wrong) a valuable tool for reviewing, then why did you make them in the first place? Cajun could you confirm this?
Unfortunately as my mental health got worse, my memory also got worse to the point I really struggle (and was previously a "gifted kid"), where possible I prefer when my lectures are recorded cause they I can focus less on taking notes, but still be able to review the whole discussion, however depending on the lecturer a lot of mine didn't record. Where I had teachers who did record, I found myself doing better, so I end up transcribing the other lectures, then condensing them into notion with toggles so they work as flash cards for reviewing.
I think what really worked best for me was making mind maps, writing neatly and slowly so it's readable later meant I took longer and the words sunk into my brain better. I don't find I can do this with many topics on my course cause I'll end up way behind.
Why did i find this video after making atleast 12 300 pages notebook full of the things that our teacher wrote in the class which is also available in PDF 😭
When I fully focus on the lecture and don't take notes, I can understand the content, but i forget everything once the lecture is over and I'm like "where did we start?"
What happen if I can't summarize what I read. I try not taking notes and focus on reading the book and then summarize what I understood from the reading, but it didn't work. I always had problems with writing, every time I need to write an essay or just reply an email my mind will go blank
At my school the teacher write the notes on the board and expected us to write them off while the or explaining or else they wont be another time because as soon explaining Finnish the bored is wiped off by teacher and say that wewrite slow
I’m used to ‘make’ notes to organise my thoughts and ‘memorise’ what I’ve learnt. After internalizing the content I don’t go back to the notes, or probably only go back when I need to reconfirm any information. My brain maps out information according to the contents or break down of my notes. Now that I’m working and I don’t have time to do the make notes process and my fingers hurt from writing. Halp. Mind maps never worked for me I don’t know why.
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Yeah I’ve never understood why my teachers always force us to take notes when we have everything that they’re saying in a textbook and then you’re so busy taking notes that you don’t pay attention to what they’re saying and then you miss the explanations and end up confused for an entire hour
Paying attention is key!
tbh what I hated most in combination to this is something that would happen a lot in math classes. They'd discuss a procedure that is different from the book, but I'd usually learn to do it the way or ways the book explained it, but even though I'd do it using a correct process and get the right answer, they'd still mark it as wrong because they wanted to force the procedure they taught in the classroom instead. Idk if this is just a thing that's too common where I live, but yeah...hate it.
😅😄😁 scary truth
@@gengargang4510 I'm lazy to take notes but if it's a math class yes I would need to take notes but it'll cause me not to understand it. Especially if the teacher uses a method different to the book. I was just lucky my teacher is a young woman who just graduated so she'll accept any methods as long you get the correct answer. The problem is I need to take notes 🤣 because I have a problem remembering equations
Wow! That's amazing!
What I took from this video: be focussed on the action of learning, thinking and engaging with the content instead of focused on taking notes. If you take notes (afterwards), they must be concise, straight to the point and useful for active learning. Some options are flashcards, mind-maps, flow charts and the Feynmann method.
As a nursing student who had her first clinicals, i also made the mistake of bringing the 9 page assessment form and trying to write down everything the patient was saying word for word. I ended up asking repetitive questions and taking such a long time. Second rotation i just spoke with the client and wrote what i heard afterwards. And its true, you can and will be able to remember everything.
Seriously! Was a game changer in med school making this realization
@@KoiAcademy I'm glad I found your channel it's has helped me a lot ❤️ I too am a Nurse, however practicing in Germany. May I ask what you can recommend when studying languages? I think your methods in you channel really works, but confused which strategy to focus on.
- Love from a Filipino working in Germany 🙂
I hearing something meant you could remember it 100% then note taking wouldnt exist and everyone would be geniuses.
This is exactly why lecturers/teachers should all provide the notes/slides before class, so students can just focus and add notes for comprehension or fill in digestible gaps, 60 minutes of transcribing equations, diagrams or dense text never helped anyone!
No! Digital slides and notes have hurt student memorization just as an emphasis on critical reasoning has hurt them.
@@morninglift1253 ..studying by reviewing or rewriting things isn't effective, and digital slides help you go through information easily & allows you to use it later for active learning way more practically
my school has, what the call, reverse learning, or something. Basically, you take notes before the class, then you listen in class, having notes with you if you need to see again what they're on about, and with the time they saved by not having to wait for students to take notes, we do what would normally be homework, in class, and so that's good, since they say instead of how most schools have it, you can ask an actual teacher for your questions, instead of google. Plus, it allows teachers to better know where there are gaps in knowledge, since you can't just cheat and look it all up on google.
You should right down your own notes but you should read the material before hand. It can be hard to keep up with a lecture if it’s the very first time you are hearing the topic.
@@morninglift1253 You have been lied to sir. Mindlessly taking notes in not helpful at all but rather a waste of time and energy. There are better methods to study
Mike and Matty. You are the reason i've gotten great grades recently. You are covering soo many aspects of what it means to be a student. When i am at rock-bottom in my studies, your content honestly really gelps. I am greatful! I dig your new style of content aswell 🤟
Ayyy glad to hear it! Thanks for sharing your success
Spot on. Having this issue right now in 3rd year biochemistry. Very complex small details and im just scrambling to write everything down because the class is so fast paced. Then it came time to study for the exam and I literally learned it for the first time from my notes, I never really learned in class, I just copied notes.
How do you make sure you have all the information you need tho if you don’t write notes? That’s kinda the problem i have right now
@@raisin4406 I would still write notes if needed but if your lectures are recorded you could be present in the moment and watch the recording later to make notes
@@rachl8400 I record the lectures on my own but I hardly find the time to actually study, let alone watch hours of lectures to write notes on. I also find that writing notes helps me concentrate rather than zone out during the lecture, so ig it's just what works for me
So I have ADHD and our biggest struggle is working memory. And being able to find the brain file we filed away after learning a new concept. If I didn't take notes I would have no clue what class was about. Even if I'm fully paying attention. It's my biggest struggle.
When someone speaks of note-taking as dangerous, me, being my 'aesthetic' self, cannot process such information.
Hahaha dangerous if not thought through properly
Art without critical engagement is just aesthetics; what purpose do your notes serve to you?
I love the humor and creativity of your videos. They also explain useful information in a more digestible way. Your storytelling skills have improved too. Great job guys
🙂 we try our best. Thanks for always supporting!
I've been taking notes for three years now, and the first thing you said about making comprehensive notes is *vital* , i've gotten quite good at it, to the point where i can break down what my teacher's saying mid lecture and actually make it easier to understand my notes later, not have them feel like big, fancy, and unnecessary word vomits, doing this has allowed me to halve definitions while still retaining the core essentials that make it up.
now, with that said: screw teachers that want the definition word-for-word.
It's a skill i wish i had. Taking good notes. I'm trying hard to figure out how to do it. I haven't found a way yet. They always say you shouldn't do this or that, but actually applying it, isn't that easy if you haven't been guided on how to summaries or gather up the right info/details to make good notes, that actually help you also study later.
I struggle a lot with this because I've recently learned I might have ADHD (still need to get tested but it's very likely), and writing things down does help. I just recently discovered your videos and I enjoy the content you create. My problem here is the part about not taking notes. I can't sit there and listen in a lecture because as hard as I try to focus my mind will wander off whether I want it to or not. I don't think writing notes from the textbook is bad. It's honestly helped me a lot and reading through them helps as well because it's a lot more difficult for it to stick. The colored notes help me remember what is important. I think your video about notes is great but, and this is just my opinion and I don't know what other people think so I could be wrong correct me if I am please, I feel there should be mention for those of us who have a harder than normal time focusing. If y'all have a video on this I haven't seen it yet so I'm going in a little blind here, please forgive me. If y'all have any tips or videos or recommendations for someone like me I would be glad to take a look at those!
I struggle with the same problem & I found that this helps me. I try to get the chapter reading and the notes from the reading done prior to the lecture. I only take down information I didn't already know whilst in the lecture or anything that I could see adds value to my notes. after the lecture either the same night or the following day I'll add whatever quick notes I took down in the lecture to my original notes. (if digital not taking it's a lot easier, but if analogue notetaking I would add them in on sticky notes in the area that needs to be added)
another thing for me is I can only take in auditory information sometimes and if I look at the professor while they're talking I will not truly listen to what they're saying so I take out a colouring book and start to colour so my hands are busy but my mind is listening to the lecture
@@jadziafamili9547 I'm all online. Closest thing I have to a lecture is TH-cam videos from my philosophy professor. I gotta read and highlight everything else.
I also struggle with this, my whole life nobody had forced me to take notes, but ever since I tried it I felt like the information could actually go through my mind and process it. I get distracted too easily, to the point that I can't just sit and listen to what the teachers are trying to teach me, I think taking notes of almost everything I hear helps me put all my mind into what they are saying, so I'm not sure whether to follow his advice or not :(
Hey whatever works for you best, is the way you should take notes. There is never only one right way to do things
Always appreciate it when you take your time to explain matters to us rookies, captain !
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Yes! Someone who defends this idea! Thank you! I hate to take a lot of notes. I cannot not to think about the grammar and orthography and making notes somewhat nice so I can comprehend it later. And "write by hand to memorise better" theory... No, dear teachers, I remember the information because I studied with proper technics AFTER the class, definetly not during intesive hand-painfull scribling. Conclusion: focus on comprehension during the class, write down what is lacking in already existing material, highlight what is absolutely necessary for exam (always specified by normal teachers).
I love your videos so much! totally agree with the point of how you should first understand the concept and then write it down. I use the feynman technique and flow charts very often and they are super helpful so it's good to know that I'm doing the right thing. however, I should probably use flashcards too! taking that advice from this video. good work guys!
You’re already crushing it
Your advice is always practical and easy to follow. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for your kind words, anuskhkamishra. 🙏🏼
I believe you should take notes after the professor or the person in front of you has completed explaining a topic or speaking about their issue. It's best to stay focused while they are teaching and write down what you have learned as soon as the professor completes the topic (on the same day). I do not recommend taking notes while the professor is speaking, as you'll stay unfocused and won't learn anything.
To improve your notes, follow Captain Dye's two principles for amazing notes:
1. *Conciseness and Comprehension:*
- Avoid transcribing word-for-word; instead, focus on understanding the material.
- Let the information sit in your working memory before taking notes.
- Write concise notes in your own words after comprehending the material.
- Consider using methods like the Feynman Technique, mind maps, or flow charts.
2. *Reviewability with Active Learning:*
- Ensure your notes are useful for later studying.
- Avoid creating large walls of text that are passive and not conducive to review.
- Make use of active learning tools, such as spaced repetition flashcards.
- Organize notes in a way that facilitates efficient review and engagement with the material.
Remember, the goal is to be present, focus your cognitive load on learning, and create notes that enhance comprehension and active recall during review.
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This is some truly simple yet amazing advice I needed to hear, thank you!!
Kind of not related to the video but I am just so appreciative of this universe and community you guys built with Cajun Koi Academy. I love the lessons and the people I meet. It's so useful and immersive and honestly even though I love our still sorta small (but growing) community I will be so disappointed if you guys don't blow up because of how amazing this all is! That's all have a good day and keep working hard, I'm a huge fan
This is actually make sense! I am medical student and a huge note taker nerd. It felt incomplete if im not jotting down every word from my lecturer or my patient during practical. In the end, im not reviewing my notes at all because it's messy. Then i tried to take history from my patient without scribbling anything. Be more present in the conversation and suprisingly, i was able to remember the details. I guess this video explains it. Thank you!
By the way, i wish i discovered this channel sooner as im in my final year of medschool. But it's never too late to change i guess. wish me luck
When it comes to college classes, remembering is more important than "learning." So notes are a must.
When a professor says something in lecture and you don't take good notes, it won't matter if you learned 75% of it using the technique in the video because you forgot 25%. And you don't know to study that 25% because it wasn't written down or known to be covered.
I think this would be true if stuff like lecture slides, recordings, other peoples notes, textbooks, etc. didnt exist. the content is always avaliable to you and so is office hours and meetings with teachers. if it was just about memorizing you wouldnt need to even be in the lecture. Just take notes from home.
@@micahbrinson7950 Not when the lecture is what the exams are based on.
That’s why I said recordings and others notes aswell.
@@micahbrinson7950 Recordings are not often available and others' notes can miss things
@@User24x just highlight in a book and use sticky notes?
Once I've read another article where they claimed that you should take notes.
Honestly I feel like taking notes forces me to pay more attention on the lecture.
If I just listen my brain just starts to think about other stuff then I realize "shit I didn't listen". But sometimes I feel like I would like to take notes, but I have so much difficulty to understand what the prof is telling, its Impossible without stopping to understand.
I love the idea of being present in the moment, but I would suggest this is not a "one size fits all" solution. As an ADHD person with auditory processing issues, class where I don't take notes or doodle is basically a class I didn't attend - I end up distracted, or, if it is a teacher with "wall of text on slides and hours of endless talking" style of teaching, I will probably retrieve about 10% of information said during such class. For me (handwritten) note taking is a way for me to structure the topic in my brain and I found out I learn best from my own handwriting - I tend to remember how the topic was structured in my notebook visually. You could tell I need the sound-to-visual translation, and the only way for me to do that efficiently and learn stuff that was said during a lecture (and it's not in the textbook) is to take notes.
I have mindmaps but i m not able to review in active way
I randomly found this vid in the midst of a desperate search for note taking advice since I'm back in the classroom for the first time in 5ish years and have always struggled with taking good notes... and @0:27 I had already subbed. The vibe is impeccable and after sifting through countless "aesthetic note taking" vids, your A1 advice was just what I needed!
I want to try to type questions during class instead of actually writing the answers so that I can later answer them. I've found it useful to only write down what I actually understand so that I can have a written record of how I processed the info instead of the info itself, but at the same time I don't want to forget important things said or seen during class, so that's why I feel like writing questions is the way to go
My problem is many of my lecturers will say information that isn’t on the slides they’ve given us, which would mean I’d have to go back to the reference and that has a lot of extra information that it feels like a waste of time. One of my classes doesn’t even have a reference, so i have to make sure to write down what is said in the lecture. Also, I realized that I tend to zone out really easily if I’m not taking notes. Especially if the lecture is boring (and most of them are). But I agree that we should focus on taking more comprehensive and useful notes rather than just transcribing what is being said. I’ll try to take your advice on that.
I am more likely to focus on every word, after watching this vid I realize that I can read the book and write the main points or anything I want. That also helps with note-taking skills. Thank you a lot.
I don't know why I can't go out with the fix-idea I have to do notes although I know I lose time and I don't help myself much. In my notes I try to write down the way I understood something but when your professor is like "I will examine you on the material ONLY from the presentations., You have to know everything from this book,read only his book.,..." I struggle a lot. Hope I go out from this situation and enjoy more my medical journey :)
Enjoying the journey is the most important part
I was recording and writing what my professor says like a psychopath. I was only trying to understand them before the exams. My exam notes were sometimes good and sometimes bad, even though I worked even a lot. I was not able to work every chapter as well because of restricted time. I decided to not to take notes. Only listening and trying to understand, learning everything at the moment it is teached. Notes will be short and at the second stage. This video overlaps with what I think and let's see how will my final exams' point be like.
The video was really perfect by the way, funny and informational. Thanks a lot!
Love it and thanks for sharing your insight!
So, how did your finals go?
I take note in class for three reasons
Sometimes the prof. Will say something that isn’t present in the lecture pdf
Or i want a quick “preview” of the lecture that i can skim before diving into the actual lecture pdf ( wont lie I don’t review them later often )
Or simply being too sleepy and dont wanna lose my attention
I'm dyslexic and writing down the odd key word lodges it in my brain as important. It's hard to concentrate throughout a two-hour lecture without writing something down. My mind would wander off. TH-camr Samuel Suresh has an excellent solution: he just writes down questions that occur to him throughout the lecture. And when he reviews them, he tries to answer them and understand.
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I’m am dyslexic too. Writing things down helps. My mind is a jumble mess and sometimes my thoughts get all muddy and unclear. Is that the same with you?
@@AmyJackson-_-85 Yes, me too!
i just can't focus unless i'm taking at least some notes -.- rip
I really love that I found your videos in humorous way which makes learning fun and interesting at the same time🥰🥰
Haha thanks! Glad you enjoy it
Your presentation skills are top-notch, really engaging .
This is SO TRUE! Thank you so much for making this video and giving us this advice
Love this explanation so much it made so much sense🥳+ Love the role-playing🤣
Matt got me in the first half when he was writing “uncle” for sexual preference😂
same here lol
Lmaoooo
I’m going to jail
Lol same 😂
I learnt the double edged sword of notemaking the hard way. The way I make notes now is to get a personalized and detailed explanation of a topic. Using these detailed notes I make what I call short notes and memory cells. I focus on using these short notes and memory cells as active learning mechanisms by quizzing myself to see what I retain from the chapter.
The short notes have minimal data so I also try remembering details to make sure my understanding is strong.
Some times the concept is retention based, then I'll cram it by repetition in a Spaced manner and recalling what it was at random times.
I wanted to learn new techniques for note taking since I'm a returning student for my Master's and this is a good start
Good luck!
Intense! But good advice, haha. Thanks for sharing Mike and Matty. Good luck to all my fellow students out here!
I’m a business student online getting my BBA, since it is online and I have 3 children it’s super hard for me to focus completely so I take my notes and when they are asleep I read them and try to focus like this but I’m still so worried about my children waking up and Im afraid to loose my focus.
my chem teacher has printout notes that are just fill in the blanks from her presentations, this way i can write out the notes pre lecture and then focus on what the teacher is saying and dotting down any important information she says that isnt on the presentation! this method helps me understand concepts better and even when i dont study much for my chem exams i still get a high mark!
So working memory capacity ~7
Instead of offloading some novel information into notes, you are saying to process it all, doesn't that overload the ~7 faster as your not offloading information?
The chunks of information being used in a conversation are novel pieces of information being attached to the schema (environmental organizing and linking principle) so are not in 'traditional' working memory therefore wouldn't require notes unlike when learning novel information in your original scenario.
Learning requires focus, but it is the transfer of information into long-term memory and if you don't have the capacity to do that, the learning doesn't happen so the notes allow for later learning of material that would otherwise be left out. Or am I missing something?
My research into the Feynman technique found it is not evidenced and doesn't satisfy Feynman's ideas of learning either. The technique is oversimplified and overlooks basic natural learning architecture.
Notes that are useful for review are extremely subjective and I would appreciate clarity in that you stated that it is opinion not evidence.
Rereading can be both passive or active as it is down to the learner's choice in thought. What goes on in a learner's mind is more directly related to learning than the mediums or techniques used.
Spaced repetition flashcards basically say practice remembering. There are lots of ways to practice and remember so I was expecting a much larger list.
I recognize the sarcasm and light-heartedness of the video and do enjoy the videos but I would like to see educational science move forwards in conversations so wanted to leave some of my thoughts. 😁
PS. The information processing approach adopted by cognitive science is not my approach to perception and action in learning so I do bias away from the science you reference just to be open and clear.
Without getting into too much detail, yes the avg person’s working memory ~7 items. Unlikely that most of us fully comprehend and process everything we learn into LTM on a first pass. Cognitive load theory just suggests that it’s more likely we can process it if we devote our attention to understanding vs note taking.
Sometimes I'm just taking notes for the material that I don't find in the book or when I find inspiration during lectures. Thanks for the video btw.
Use any resource you'd like as long as it makes sense to you!
At 2:15, the point made is directly associable with something which Andrew Huberman discusses which he calls [x] gaps (I can’t remember the name - the function was more important than it’s title, I focused on retention of the concept ok? Lol).
Basically, a study was carried out where people were studying/reading about something, and every so often a buzzer/alarm would go off at which point they were instructed to just stop for 10-20 seconds and do nothing.
Their learning retention was markedly higher because this stoppage allows information processing and storage to occur.
I think he states that they found that not only does the brain replay and revise the information during this break, but it also does so at 20-times the speed _and_ both forwards and backwards too.
Pretty crazy stuff, and a super powerful ability to be aware to.
bros... make a video about how kitsune, tora and kuma brain types should prefer different types of studymusic.. and which combination suits well.. the last one was quite vague but now you make more explicit suggestions for each specific type
Interesting idea! We’ll consider it and how to approach it
I don't actually look at my notes that often, I just find that writing some stuff out helps with my memory.
Okay great! But how do you simultaneously focus and then make flashcards? Would be really helpful to show us how you guys approach that. Thank you so much! Great content btw, really need this
You could certainly try - Remnote. Here you could focus on the source material and create flashcards simultaneously and take notes at the same time. This would be their answer if they replied to you. Remnote is a great tool. I have been using it for about 1 year now and I could say it is worthy of its claims.
@@CalebM_ Thanks, will definitely check this out.
Thanks 🙏🏻 spot on haha
The way of comprehending what you guys want us to understand is just awesome!
Glad it makes sense 🙂
@@KoiAcademy it really does! Thanks)
The problem I have is I don’t have time to think about the lesson fully. I struggle with comprehending all the information my teachers give me. They give us information after information, and I struggle with that.
Your real-world example (3:37) illustrated the difference between *"following procedures" and "being present".. To me, that isn't "taking notes", that's reducing your awareness by following guidelines.
Personally, I can be way more present when I make notes and keep my cognitive load clear. It's like marking a map with pins: indicating "where we've been already" so we can make clear, deliberate progress.
I do have a problem with "copying the bullets the teacher has on display" and I get how that could inhibit my learning, but I've noticed that I remember more in the long-term by having notes to refer to. Usually, all it takes is a quick glance and the entire lesson floods back into my mind.
It could be worth noting that I've been out of school for about a decade and it took me about 3 years of independence to actually learn how to learn. I took a break after high school to gain sense of myself before enrolling myself entirely into the system, so my perspective here is likely an outlier.
This video has literally made me review the way I take notes especially since start 2nd year of University. Cheers for this video it has helped.
I'm loving the new way you guys are creating content. Kajun Koi academy is really awesome and is helping me a lot, like you always did.
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Wish i had knew this 2 years ago, thanks for this vital information :)
1.First listen 👂 and understand
2. Write what you have understood
3. Ask questions
4. Create an evidence
5. Come to a conclusion
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That was such a beautiful information 🙂
At the end I was looking for spiders in room 😂😸 that means I was focused
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@@KoiAcademy I am going to use this technique in my next class
I really thought that I was dumb for being the only one in my classroom who doesn't take notes at all during lectures. Instead, I would be asking the instructor questions and sharing my thoughts in order for my brain to find connections between the schema and the topic at hand, and therefore understand the material effectively.
Really changed my mindset! Thanks you guys
When I sit in lecture-lessons, I take notes of (important) things I didn't know + facts that I know I won't be able to remember. It's never a transcription - I can't write fast enough for that.
I often feel that taking notes help me stay present and not zone out.
I try to make some of into flashcards, but I find it takes a long time to make flashcards.
Loving these new videos!
thank you for your advice. i'm using these methods towards studying for an A+ certificate. :)
What ive always done is write down the keywords of what the teacher says or, if the teacher sucks at teaching, write down the key points on the slide. From there i draw boxes and connect points together which is really useful for when the teacher goes on tangents.
Because i write down key words, it forces me to think back and remember what the teacher/textbook said about the key words.
"Remain still and focused."
loved this video.
My notetaking method is giving 90% attention to what is being explained while scribbling on a notebook i use only for that, and then AFTER i will note the key takes of the lesson/video/podcast
Common problem with note taking:
Kind of Transcribing does work but slows down learning process
2 principles of better note taking:
1. "Your notes must be concise and written to improve comprehension" and write them in your own words
Therefore: read first, understand and then take notes.
Method: Feynman, mind map, flow chart
2."Your notes must be reviewable with active learning"
Reason: there is no reason to take notes when you have to look at your textbook instead in your own notes
Method: creating flashcards
That exactly what I needed!!!! 🤩
Glad we could provide that!
Great help
Thanks
0:43 Holy cr*p, a Scott Pilgrim reference
Mind maps of mine are literally puzzles. So complex that I spend hours reviewing them to understand 🤣
I have a problem where I take so many notes from the teacher's slides that I don't pay attention to what they're saying when they explain the topic since I'm writing it all down as fast as I can. I'm saving up for an iPad with the apple pencil so I can download the teacher's slides as a pdf I can annotate on so I can actually pay attention to them while going over the content portably wherever I want to study. Plus, this will save me money printing out all of the packets of slides for the semester.
I had the same problem trying to copy everything down, just makes it tough because then you have to learn it again later by yourself
@@KoiAcademy that’s true. Instead of learning it twice though like you guys said, it’s better to focus and really write the concepts in your own words
Hi did you buy the iPad and if you'd did gore has the annotating changed your student life
Could y'all perhaps factor in the variable of competitive exams and how can we tweak these methods to best adjust with them?
I cone from South Asia and at the end of understanding it all and focusing, I still need to clear the license exams to get that Dr. Prefix. 🤷🏻♂️
So please consider factoring that in. 🙏🏻
this is why i started to audio record my lectures because otherwise i would waste all my time taking notes and not learning, so if then later on i had any doubt i just hear the lecture again
Insane video thank you!
Thank you for this❤️
I follow a method that’s probably terrible. I take notes in class but only very rough ones on a report pad and only of the key points.
Later I refine them in seperate notebooks for each subject and unit. This I do in conjunction with the lecture recordings repeating where needed.
Usually takes about 2-4 hours of study outside of the lecture across 2-3 days but as an autistic individual it works for me.
I have a very tedious job where I need to listen to recordings of other people's conversations, and I have been taking notes during the llstening.. I find my notes are not very helpful. I will be trying this technique and see if I have improved recollection.
So, you make a video about taking just to say don’t take notes? Brilliant
Imagine Mike and Matty make a skillshare course using these Cajun clubs and current storytelling, it abouta go viral bro sheesh..
Mike and Matty, why'd you stopped speaking abt remnote?
That would be dope
We have an entire TH-cam channel for RemNote lol
What an informative and fun video!
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This channel is precious.
6:44 If taking note doesn't *provide* (the subtitle says "prevent", I think it's terribly wrong) a valuable tool for reviewing, then why did you make them in the first place? Cajun could you confirm this?
Unfortunately as my mental health got worse, my memory also got worse to the point I really struggle (and was previously a "gifted kid"), where possible I prefer when my lectures are recorded cause they I can focus less on taking notes, but still be able to review the whole discussion, however depending on the lecturer a lot of mine didn't record. Where I had teachers who did record, I found myself doing better, so I end up transcribing the other lectures, then condensing them into notion with toggles so they work as flash cards for reviewing.
I think what really worked best for me was making mind maps, writing neatly and slowly so it's readable later meant I took longer and the words sunk into my brain better. I don't find I can do this with many topics on my course cause I'll end up way behind.
amazing as always
what if you use a voice recorder to take notes? well its not extremely usefull for learning, but it doesn't require transcribing
If it helps relieve the anxiety and fear of having to take notes and helps you pay attention, then it sounds good!
I just accepted that I am a failure
Thank you guys, for real 😄🖤
Why did i find this video after making atleast 12 300 pages notebook full of the things that our teacher wrote in the class which is also available in PDF 😭
When I fully focus on the lecture and don't take notes, I can understand the content, but i forget everything once the lecture is over and I'm like "where did we start?"
I find it crazy how i just saw this video release after going through 500 remnote cards for my 3rd exam 🙃 appreciation for the future 😂
What happen if I can't summarize what I read. I try not taking notes and focus on reading the book and then summarize what I understood from the reading, but it didn't work. I always had problems with writing, every time I need to write an essay or just reply an email my mind will go blank
At my school the teacher write the notes on the board and expected us to write them off while the or explaining or else they wont be another time because as soon explaining Finnish the bored is wiped off by teacher and say that wewrite slow
Hey Mike and Matty, can you make a vid on how to study with adhd? It would be really helpful
Working on one ;)
@@KoiAcademy and btw are all of your tips and techniques universal ie can be applied in all types of schools(like grade school, med school, uni, etc)?
i take notes because it's required in my school, they also grade our notes 😢
I’m used to ‘make’ notes to organise my thoughts and ‘memorise’ what I’ve learnt. After internalizing the content I don’t go back to the notes, or probably only go back when I need to reconfirm any information. My brain maps out information according to the contents or break down of my notes. Now that I’m working and I don’t have time to do the make notes process and my fingers hurt from writing. Halp. Mind maps never worked for me I don’t know why.
I love your videos and your imagine as its shown on the videos that’s cool