I have a 1957 Loco with the 4 drive wheels. I was just doing some cleaning and oiling and noticed one of the front outside wheels was spinning freely on the white piece. I removed the wheel expecting to find something broken but everything looked fine. I then cleaned them up with some mineral spirits removing all the oil and the pieces snapped back together with a click. So was wondering if a few drops of CA glue around in inside perimeter of the two front wheels while they are removed would be appropriate to prevent it happening again. I don't have a quartering jig but made good a reference to where the wheels were and only removed the front wheels not the rear drive wheels. I saw quartering jigs on ebay but before spending 70 bucks I may give it a go without one. Use a C Clamp to pull the two wheels together. Thanks for the Video.
Just a real interesting side thought here. The quartering of the timing of the heels in reference to the side rods brings up a very important question. I have been hearing lately that the normal steam engine make four chuffs per revolution. If that is true, would not two of them make the chuff together, and then there would be a space between the 1st and the last chuff as well, as in reality three chuffs per revolution, with a break between the 1st and the 3rd chuff...
Great video. I have the Pacific/K5/Hudson quartering tool for 6 wheels & Northern Quartering tool 8 wheels that are idential to the quartering tool you used. I also have the factory reproduction quartering tool for the 0-8-0. All bought from Portlines. Is there a quartering tool available for the 4 wheel Atlantic? If not how do you go about quartering the Atlantics? Thanks.
My wheel puller identical to the one you used in the video. I have used it for six wheel and eight wheel standard size wheels. The aluminum block's slots were not milled deep enough to bring the tips close enough for the flanges to get under the center hub of an 0-8-0. Any suggestion for what wheel puller to use for the 0-8-0 or other method if removing the hub? Thanks.
Great video. My dad and I would like to repair his 336 - the flanges on the original tires have worn thin and the cast rubber traction tires are falling apart. Where did you find replacement insulators?
I was watching the video as I was trying to put the wheels in the quartering tool and then I never saw the time when you installed the axles, Did I miss something?
The front two axles were placed in the chassis. The rear axle has the gear. When the chassis is placed between two halves of the jig and then pressed together everything goes together. Sorry for not being more clear as I explained in the video.
What about wheel slippage on the track. I have problems having the #312 engine pull a long line of rail cars? The engine wheels will just spin until they get enough friction to pull.
The wheel treads are worn out due to age or being cleaned polished with sandpaper. You have two options: Try using some coarse 80 grit sandpaper and sand across the tire to give it some roughness. The other option is to replace the wheels with Pulmor wheels.
I don't have that awesome quartering jig but I have a question about the same. When you quarter the wheels, are the one side exactly 90 degrees different from the other side? And does it matter which side is the lead side. In other words, if you were looking from the motor end toward the front and one side had all of the wheel screw heads at the top and the other side were all facing forward, would it matter which side was forward? Great video though! Thanks.
I purchased the insulators from Portlines.com hobby supply. The jig was purchased from a fellow at York Barry something or other sorry name escapes me. Portlines sells a jig that will do the same thing.
Ron, i purchased it from a fellow named Barry King. A friend of mine got it for me. I understand that Doug Peck at Portlines Hobbies will also carry the tool. Hope that helps.
Thank you for sharing your expertise, and giving a excellent demonstration! I have always wanted to see this done. Great video Tim!!!
Thank you for another well done and informative video Tim.
I have a 1957 Loco with the 4 drive wheels. I was just doing some cleaning and oiling and noticed one of the front outside wheels was spinning freely on the white piece. I removed the wheel expecting to find something broken but everything looked fine. I then cleaned them up with some mineral spirits removing all the oil and the pieces snapped back together with a click.
So was wondering if a few drops of CA glue around in inside perimeter of the two front wheels while they are removed would be appropriate to prevent it happening again.
I don't have a quartering jig but made good a reference to where the wheels were and only removed the front wheels not the rear drive wheels. I saw quartering jigs on ebay but before spending 70 bucks I may give it a go without one. Use a C Clamp to pull the two wheels together. Thanks for the Video.
Very Cool!!
Just a real interesting side thought here. The quartering of the timing of the heels in reference to the side rods brings up a very important question. I have been hearing lately that the normal steam engine make four chuffs per revolution. If that is true, would not two of them make the chuff together, and then there would be a space between the 1st and the last chuff as well, as in reality three chuffs per revolution, with a break between the 1st and the 3rd chuff...
Good tutorial, I have to repair drivers on a a 0 8 0 # 343
Great video.
I have the Pacific/K5/Hudson quartering tool for 6 wheels & Northern Quartering tool 8 wheels that are idential to the quartering tool you used. I also have the factory reproduction quartering tool for the 0-8-0. All bought from Portlines.
Is there a quartering tool available for the 4 wheel Atlantic? If not how do you go about quartering the Atlantics?
Thanks.
My wheel puller identical to the one you used in the video. I have used it for six wheel and eight wheel standard size wheels. The aluminum block's slots were not milled deep enough to bring the tips close enough for the flanges to get under the center hub of an 0-8-0. Any suggestion for what wheel puller to use for the 0-8-0 or other method if removing the hub? Thanks.
Great video. My dad and I would like to repair his 336 - the flanges on the original tires have worn thin and the cast rubber traction tires are falling apart. Where did you find replacement insulators?
Portlines.com hobbies
What about tires? My 290 has enough miles on it to have taken a trip from New Haven to Atlanta
I was watching the video as I was trying to put the wheels in the quartering tool and then I never saw the time when you installed the axles, Did I miss something?
The front two axles were placed in the chassis. The rear axle has the gear. When the chassis is placed between two halves of the jig and then pressed together everything goes together. Sorry for not being more clear as I explained in the video.
What about wheel slippage on the track. I have problems having the #312 engine pull a long line of rail cars? The engine wheels will just spin until they get enough friction to pull.
The wheel treads are worn out due to age or being cleaned polished with sandpaper. You have two options: Try using some coarse 80 grit sandpaper and sand across the tire to give it some roughness. The other option is to replace the wheels with Pulmor wheels.
I don't have that awesome quartering jig but I have a question about the same. When you quarter the wheels, are the one side exactly 90 degrees different from the other side? And does it matter which side is the lead side. In other words, if you were looking from the motor end toward the front and one side had all of the wheel screw heads at the top and the other side were all facing forward, would it matter which side was forward? Great video though! Thanks.
They are actually a little less than 90 degrees. It makes no difference which side you do first there is no lead side per se.
@@timcoe6841 Thanks for the quick reply. I tried to purchase a quartering jig before, but the guy wanted to keep it because his father made it.
You can also get quartering jigs from portlines.com hobby supply
Where did you get the jig and tools plus the wheel insulators. Can they be bought?
I purchased the insulators from Portlines.com hobby supply. The jig was purchased from a fellow at York Barry something or other sorry name escapes me. Portlines sells a jig that will do the same thing.
Where did you get that Jig that is awesome big $$$ ???
From a friend of Donald Mills
Where did you purchase the quartering tool?
Ron, i purchased it from a fellow named Barry King. A friend of mine got it for me. I understand that Doug Peck at Portlines Hobbies will also carry the tool. Hope that helps.