I don't have any issues with roundabouts but probably 90% of other road users seem to be clueless which means your awareness and obs must be spot on. That 90% of other road users need to watch this excellent instructional video.
Quite simply the best video on roundabouts and lifesavers I've seen ......and I've seen a lot explained everything perfectly many thanks I take my test soon
Many thanks for your kind feedback, much appreciated. i wish you well for your test, let me know how you get on. If I can help with anything let me know, all the best
Invaluable! I'll be on a journey early tomorrow morning that involves a lot of awkward roundabouts (Black Country Route, West Midlands): I'll be thinking of this advice all the way.
I was getting confused about lifesavers at roundabouts after getting different advice from instructors but this is the clearest explanation I've seen. Many thanks.
Yes I did learn a lot, thank you. I wish all the motorcycle instructors are so knowledgeable as you are, and can explain it so well as you did in this video. Honestly the overall quality with nice clear voice over and production looks like it's been made by BBC or DVSA. It is very very professional and the information value of this video is absolutely priceless. I wouldn't be surprise if some company would buy all your videos and package them as a video learning tool, because they are so good.
Thats great to hear, thank you for your very positive comments. The main aim of course is to try to help bikers stay as safe as possible. Im please that you found it helpful, and hope some of my other videos will be helpful too. Many thanks again.
I've watched multiple videos about roundabout procedure and this is the first one that makes a comment about what to do if there is someone in your blindspot. Thanks!
Hi Phil, I asked you for a video on how to use roundabouts, wow... Did you deliver!!! OMG yes you did!!! The whole video from start to finish is simply brilliant. It's the best one yet!!! The diagrams and editing must have taken ages to do. First class quality. 10/10 for accurate information & content. Hopefully this will inform all road users not just motorcyclists of how to use roundabouts safely. Live to ride, ride to live. Cheers again Bob
Hi Phil love your videos bits Maurice here from Ireland 'm just wondering is it okay to do a left life saver banked to the right but looking to go straight on. through a roundabout.
This has been the most thorough and comprehensive video I have seen regarding roundabouts for a motorcyclist on youtube. This is excellent. Mod 2 coming for me very shortly, and roundabouts, in particular signalling and lifesaver checks, are giving me the most to think about. This video has explained so much for me. Many thanks Motorcycle PWR!
Asked that question Phil because I failed my MOD2 at this very set of tricky roundabouts a few weeks ago in Herne Bay… Lost my composure, knew what to do but the instructor gave me 3 sets of instructions during the independent driving & I forgot what I was meant to do half way through…. You are the best & your videos are gold dust!
@Cedric Duwat Ah sorry to hear that, I hope you pass next time. With independent riding, if you forget the directions the best thing to do is to make the route up yourself and ride safely as the examiner wants to see how you ride without being given individual directions. Many thanks for your compliments, ride safe, all the best
This video almost as good as riding the real thing with an instructor. In fact, for pre & post maneuver analysis it's probably better, as there's the time to let the explanations behind the correct actions and their rationale sink in. Thanks for a bit of extra confidence (mod2 in 3 days)
I’ve been trying to find a video like this for ages I have my CBT coming up in 2 weeks and it’s been terrifying me of how roundabouts work this was explained very simple and very easy to understand. Thank you massive help!
@Marco Manic thank you for your comment, im glad you find this helpful. Training can sometimes be daunting, but your instructor should be helpful and appreciative of any concerns you have. CBT is not a test but a training course, so try to enjoy it and build your confidence. If you need training for more than one day that is fine, and if you are not confident good schools will help you further. Let me know if i can advise with anything else. All the best
Such a helpful and clear approach to explaining how to tackle roundabouts! I know all the information you have explained however to have it all refreshed in one go is confidence inspiring and has helped illuminate the grey areas in my memory. Thank you so much.
An excellent video may well save lives, certainly will help test candidates a guy i know failed his Mod2 last week for messing up on a roundabout (lane discipline) 😢
Slowly going though all your videos as got my Mod 2 in 10 days , but this has certainly cleared up roundabouts for me, and when to use or not use a life saver, onto the next video🙂
Yet another excellent video from Motorcycle PWR ... You talked about anticipating that other road users may be wrongly positioned or in the wrong lane. One particular point that may be worth calling out here is that pedal cyclists are/were *advised* in the Highway Code (rules, 79, 182) that they may take the left-hand lane when turning right, so may be in places you don't expect *and legitimately so* To my mind this is not helpful advice - and as a pedal cyclist of many years I will always use the same lane as a motor vehicle would use for whichever exit - but I can recognise that slower or less confident cyclists may take the advice at face value, especially on larger and faster roundabouts.
Hi Phill, I took a Submarine to Portsmouth back in the 90’s. I miss the exacting hospitality…love those brandy laced mincemeat pies, and Christmas Crackers. I find your graphics very helpful, and not unlike what I do to my screenshots. The comment about never getting instruction to, “Go straight” on a Roundabout is so intuitive to me but my Ram Truck navigation tells me to do that all the time. Top shelf instruction mate. I have to reverse the instructions but the quality training is well worth it. USN, Ret. 2020 Fat Boy 114, subscribed
Thank you so much for your comments, much appreciated and very interesting. Im glad you got to visit over here and enjoyed the hospitality. Ride safe, all the best
Thank you so much for this video I have 2x 3 hour lessons tomorrow and my test on Tuesday so this is a great help... I drive articulated lorries so the difference from that to a bike is a lot different.
Thanks - this is useful. I have my MOD 2 next week (retake for the 2nd time) and failed 1st time as I froze at a mini roundabout and had priority when I could have gone and did not do a left shoulder check when exiting a roundabout in the right hand land (did a left shoulder check).
Hi. At 14:52 you joined the roundabout when there was already traffic (the white lorry) on the roundabout approaching from the right. I have been instructed that I will fail my test if I do this. What is the correct procedure?
After having spent a good week looking at various videos, I came across this channel and the content here is described in far more depth and clarity than any other I've come across. I feel more confident now. Thank you.
What would you do at 21:29 if the vehicle decides to continue around? Would you continue going around and then take the third exit? Also an amazing video. I learned a lot for my MOD 2.
Hi thank you for your question. It really depends on how it works out, your closeness to that vehicle and your speed would influence your decision. I would sometimes linger until it’s clear then continue on my intended course, but slowing dramatically or stopping on a roundabout is rarely a safe idea, so yes, going all the way around is a good option
Thanks really helpful. At 09:02, you were turning right and exited the roundabout from lane 2 straight into lane 1. You did a lifesaver, but essentially you seem to have completed 2 manoeuvres 1) lane change and 2) roundabout exit in one go. Had there been someone in lane 1 exiting at the same place, would you have maintained a line in lane 2?
Hi thanks for your question. The short answer is yes, I would have stayed in lane 2. The lifesaver had covered the exit so either lane was a possibility. All the best
I was waiting over 2 month for CBT test but I failed because of the roundabouts, is not that I don't know he was confusing me with (Take right and ......) And hes English accent was very strong I could barely understand. Thank you for doing this video explaining everything 🙏
@Khatir thank you for your comments. Its important to know that no one fails their cbt because it is not a test, but a training course. This means a student must train until they demonstrate a level of competence to be safe and legal, and the time taken varies for different students. I am glad you found the video useful and I am sure that you will successfully complete your cbt soon. Get in touch if you need further help. All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR i didn't understand when you said no one fails!!!! So why did he told me that he can't give me CBT because I couldn't understand what's 12 o'clock and after 3 o'clock?!! I was driving for 2 hours in very safe way, Plus I have driven license and I past all the highway code even all tha he didn't want to. Can I complain?!!
@Khatir there is often confusion about CBT! So CBT is a course of training with 5 elements. A student can only progress from A to B, B to C etc when they have the required understanding and competence as required. So unlike the driving test when you make a serious fault and you fail no matter how good the rest of your driving is, CBT is a course of continual training and assessment until an instructor is satisfied that the student has completed all elements safely enough to receive the CBT certificate of completion. (Not pass certificate!) So a student may complete in one day, or they may need to re attend for further training until a safe standard is reached. This may even be over a period of weeks. I cannot comment specifically on individual cases as I am not in possession of all facts, but: a student cannot not complete a CBT just because they do not understand 12 or 3 o clock, but if an instructor feels that a student is not safely negotiating roundabouts then they are not able to issue a certificate. So you may just need another road ride to work on and demonstrate competency with roundabouts for a certificate to be issued if everything else is ok. There is a course of complaint via the DVSA website, but it is first worth taking the matter up with the training school to find out exactly what needs to be done for you to achieve your certificate. You may well have thought you rode well, but most instructors are very well trained in assessment in safe motorcycling and most of us will not, and neither are we permitted to by regulations, issue a cbt certificate if we feel that the student hasnt reached the standard and will have problems on the road by themselves. I hope this helps and you complete your cbt soon.
Thanks for the video! How's the dynamic when there are two lanes approaching a roundabout and in the roundabout, and there is a car in each lane, and the exit that both cars want to take only has one lane? Assuming they enter the roundabout simultaneously
Hi thanks for your comment. This is often an interesting scenario and generally 2 lanes in and one out suggests that the right lane shouldn’t be for going ahead but turning right. But there are variables of course. If lane discipline is being used properly then both vehicles should give grace to one another and drive with care and consideration. If someone has used the wrong lane, again consideration is key. There is nothing official here other than to drive with due care and attention and consideration for other road users. It seems to be lacking in modern driving sadly. I tend to allow other road users to do what they need, but if I can accelerate safely away from them then equally I will do that too. Hope this helps, all the best
@@MotorcyclePWR That makes a lot of sense! Sometimes common sense and good road manners are just as important in order to stay safe and avoid bad situations. Thanks for your answer and take care! And thank you also for the amazing content you produce 😊
Hi Phil, I failed my mod 2 2weeks ago I'm no spring chicken at 52 I was so nervous and had no lessons for 4 months because of covid but that is not an excuse I rode on my test a nervous wreck so it's that I need help with I will try to keep calm this time 🙏👍
@Anthony Fairbanks sorry to hear that, at least Mod 1 is in the bag! I get the nervous thing, i get worse the older i get, we are of the same vintage! I always advise my students, ride like you are on your own, treat the examiner as a satnav on a bike, and if necessary talk out loud to yourself in a commentary like i do on my videos; it keeps your focus and leaves less room for nerves. Also, just ride and do what you think is correct, dont second guess what the examiner wants to see. If you ride safely and legally you will pass, if you make mistakes its either nerves or you do need further training. We all make mistakes, it doesnt mean its a fail though so let it go and keep focussed until the debrief. All the examiners I meet are really nice guys, and more importantly, they are bikers!
50 here and failed my Mod 2 first try too, quite spectacularly, i dropped the bike at a junction and the test was terminated, i was absolutely gutted, second test was a lot better and i passed (February 2020), i tried to keep calm by reminding myself i'm doing it as a hobby, also just looked at the first failed test as a practice run so i knew what to expect next time. Great when you eventually pass though and it's amazing getting out on your own bike, well worth it.
Genuinely curious to learn.... Did you miss a lifesaver at 11:19 or was that because you entered the right lane of the exit that you didn't... Please could you explain the situation... Great video, thank you!
Thank you for your question. A recommended lifesaver there would be to the left. It wasn’t clear in the video if I did one but it looks as though I didn’t. Possible reasons for not doing it were because I was staying in my lane all the way through and I was already well aware of the absence of traffic to my left. But definitely worth a check for newer riders. All the best.
@@MotorcyclePWR thanks, really grateful for your explanation, that definitely helps me think about the situation better, thank you. Keep making great content! Kindest regards SR
@Nikolina L Hi thank you for your question. Unfortunately there isn't a default mph answer to the question. However, speed for roundabouts, as with all hazards will depend on a number of considerations. Some considerations will be volume of traffic, size and layout of roundabout, available visibility, and which exit you are taking in relation to your entry onto the roundabout. One major factor to consider when deciding on speed when using a roundabout is could you respond safely if another vehicle pulled out in front of you? If you are fast on a motorcycle whilst cornering your lean angle will increase, leaving little grip for firm braking in the event of a vehicle putting you at risk: therefore slowly around and accelerate away to exit when the road ahead permits is safest. However, when going ahead at a roundabout with little to no traffic and great visibility you might be going relatively quickly, as opposed to a right turn which would be a lot slower. Its also worth remembering that roundabouts are supposed to assist traffic flow, vehicles travelling fast on a roundabout may cause difficulty to other road users in joining, so a more measured use of speed allows others to join safely and get on with their journey too. I hope this helps and feel free to ask further questions. All the best.
The bit that confuses me about roundabouts are when the sign and the exits do not match. E.g some roundabout signs show 2nd exit at 12 o'clock. But the roundabout 2nd exit in actuality is at 2 o'clock. With visibility you may not always know until you're at the roundabout.so you could be in the the wrong lane. I'm not sure if that makes sense
Hi Matt. Yes it does make sense and is something i see quite a lot. I dont know why highways authorities do it. Usually in test training, we advise students to work from the signs as the default. In some areas instructors may give separate advice if there are roundabouts with known procedures. In post test training things can differ, primarily because the rider should be more competent in machine control and therefore has more room in the brain to assess the road and make more complex plans and decisions. So Roadcraft says that generally the best route through a roundabout is the shortest route from entry to exit. So providing there is no adverse effect on safety or another road user the rider has a reasonable degree of flexibility. But where there is no early visibility of road layout, no local knowledge or pre warning of layout via sat nav I would always advise using the signs as the guide, and in situations where the 12 o clock sign exit now appears at 2 o clock on the road for example, make sure your awareness and blind spot checks are thorough, as in essence you would be turning right from the left lane which carries possible risks of conflict with a road user taking the same exit but approaching from the right lane. All the best.
At 25:37, you have come to a halt. Do you then complete the roundabout in first gear, feathering the clutch or do you tend to get into 2nd asap and then go around with clutch. I find on my 650 that first gear makes the throttle a bit jumpy and harder to control the line. Would appreciate your thoughts?
Hi thanks for your question. Either, I often get into second as soon as possible and prefer not to change gear when cornering. Clutch slip is of great help so I would go with what suits you and the bike at the time. But keeping it smooth is helpful. All the best
Thank you for the great video! At 11:08, isn't the second exit between 6 and 12 o'clock, so shouldn't it be treated as left? Sorry, I may be wrong but trying to wrap my head around this roundabout.
@Wicked Adonis hi, thank you for your comment. Roundabouts can be confusing some times! So in the example you mention, as we look at the road sign we have 2 exits shown, one left at 9 o clock, and one at 12 o clock (ahead). You are right, usually between 6 and 12 o clock it would be a left lane approach. But here, because there is no right turn shown on the sign (other than a U turn) , and there are 2 lanes on the entry we can choose the right lane to go ahead, which is beneficial as I am already planning to turn right at the next roundabout. There are also 2 lanes on the exit of this R/A, not clear maybe to a stranger but local knowledge helps us here. It would not be wrong to use the left or the right in this case to go ahead. To complicate matters further, there is actually an extra exit to the right to an industrial area (not seen clearly in the video) and not marked on the road sign. However, this is of no real consequence to what I have mentioned above. I hope that this helps? All the best
Thank you very much for the clarification. Really appreciate it, mate. You and the biking community here on TH-cam make it so easy for us by demystifying such confusing concepts with a great explanation. Cheers!
At 22mins when you accelerated ahead of the truck because you were unsure on what it was going to do, would this be OK on a Mod2 test? Or would the expectation from the examiner to be that you should hold back? But then that could be hesitation? Thanks
@Paul Lovell Hi Paul, thank you for your question. Its difficult to give a definitive answer as to situations that may occur on test because it depends on many factors present at the time. However, in this situation on the video, when I was unsure of the trucks intentions I held back in case he changed lane. This was because we were in a 40 mph limit so going alongside was not safe as i couldnt get past the truck in one go. Had it been a higher speed limit I may have passed the truck quickly. However, when we got to the roundabout because he cant out run me at the low speed I got away quickly and therefore preserved my safety. If you had held back in this scenario it would be likely that you would have to stay behind the truck until you were sure he couldn't cut the lane or side swipe you. This roundabout had fairly wide lanes but some dont, so being alongside a large vehicle is potentially dangerous. On test, if you break the law or put your self or another road user potentially or actually in danger you will not pass. So if you are safe, its not a problem. Hesitancy is something a lot of people worry about, but safety has to come first. If you are so hesitant that a further problem arises then you may be looking a serious fault on test. But planning and anticipation of possible problems should not cause hesitancy issues. I hope this helps.
I failed my mod 2 for stopping past the roundabout entry line at Herne Bay last week. It’s a bad habit I have from driving a taxi in London, inching out to jump in a gap
At 25:20 Surely the Toyota MPV has the right of way not you as there is a crossing on your side of the road and his side of the road is open? Also i was told to give two bike lengths gap between you and the vehicle in front when at a stop.
The Toyota doesn't automatically have right of way, there is no crossing present here; i committed to coming past the part of the road that is built outwards at the point the suv just came into view. After this point there are cars parked on the offside which could mean its my right of way, however being on a bike i didn't need him to give way as there was enough space. A sensible space between you and the stationary vehicle in front is sensible, although 2 bikes lengths would be advice by an individual instructor and is not necessarily prescriptive industry standard.
12:22 so whether you go into lane 1 or 2 from the roundabout its still a left signal and left observation, nothing changes it's whether you move towards the lane one if there's space or you go in lane 2 is that correct?
Hi, yes in the example shown that is correct. Generally , on roundabouts, the life saver is in the direction of the widest area of road space as this is the highest risk of a vehicle coming alongside and conflicting. For lane changes the priority for a lifesaver is in the direction of the intended movement, although consideration could also be given to risk on the other side too.
@@MotorcyclePWR Just wanna say thank you for the reply and for these videos, probably the most useful ones out there and really helped me pass my Mod 2 today with only 2 minors! thanks again.
You are very welcome, glad to have been of help. Congratulations on your pass and I hope you enjoy your biking. Please consider some further training in the future, you might be surprised how different it is to direct access, and fun too! Ride safe
how do you decide when stopped at a roundabout to look over both shoulders before moving off vs just going. same with traffic lights sometime i see you do it and others not.
@Russell Morrison Hi Russell, thank you for your question. So in general, I will not do lifesavers left or right before moving off onto a roundabout. The reason is that it takes too much time and takes away the focus from the main hazards, which are the traffic on the roundabout. However, I would always consider a lifesaver depending on other traffic and possible risk. It may appear that I do these checks, but in real terms I am just moving my head left to right in general sweeping observations, but this does also provide a blindspot awareness using my peripheral vision. At traffic lights I am likely to check blindspots specifically with a lifesaver before moving as I have the time to do so without compromising my awareness. If I choose not to specifically lifesaver, it may be because I have kept good all round obs going whilst stationary using mirrors and/or head movements and therefore have a good awareness of what is behind and next to me and am happy my blindspots are safe. You may find my rear observations video helpful. All the best.
Hi Phil. I have had the same jacket as you for a long time and starting to show its age now unlike yours. As far as I know they have stopped making them so is this an old jacket you've had for a long time and only just started using it as I'd like to get the same again 🤔
@Richard Giles Hi Richard, yes they are good jackets, I bought mine circa 2011 and its still serviceable if a little tired. Being Hein Gericke I wouldnt know now where to get a new one sadly.
Your videos are so useful! I have a question. After 11 mnts, you explain that despite going straight at a roundabout, you will use the right hand lane because you’ll go right again at the second roundabout a few hundred yards later. Makes sense. My question is: On exiting the first roundabout on the right hand lane to go straight, would you quickly indicate left on exit? As in, left life saver, left indicator which you then cancel immediately. Hope my question makes sense?
@Cedric Duwat hi Cedric, many thanks and thanks for your question which makes perfect sense. So I would consider an indicator; if there was a vehicle going ahead in the left lane (same direction as me) I probably would not signal as he may interpret that I would be moving across in front of him. However, if there was a car waiting to join the roundabout and was looking to see if I was going to turn right in front of him without signalling then I would likely do a quick left flash to show my intention to leave the roundabout so that they could enter the roundabout. I hope this makes sense? All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR Thanks Phil. Let me paraphrase to ensure my understanding is correct: If there’s a vehicle following you in the left hand lane of that 1st roundabout because they’re exiting left at the second roundabout, they might think you’re about to move to your left if indicating left. So no indicator on exit. But if the roundabout is busy and vehicles travelling in the opposite direction from the bottom to the top, when looking to their right, your left indicator will tell them they can go ahead because you’re not turning right & going ahead. Would the instructors in Herne Bay let you get away with no indicator when exiting a roundabout though? That’s the question in the back of my mind… Not to mention both scenarios could happen as these roundabouts can be quite busy at rush hour… You could have both a vehicle following you in the left hand lane & vehicles going up looking to their right? Would a left indicator be considered as a major fault? I don’t want to over think it but I don’t want to fail again either…
@Cedric Duwat Hi Cedric, yes you are thinking right here. So when using signals, we have to look at the effect that using them or not could/would have on you and/or another road user. So is an effect is negligible or non existent, then there is no issue. But if there is an effect that compromises safety or requires the other road user to take action, then yes it would be serious. As regards the most complex scenario you mention, if your lane discipline was good (centre of lane, steady) then a brief left indicator would probably be unlikely to concern a following vehicle. However, a vehicle waiting to enter a roundabout should technically wait to see that the vehicle on the RA (in this case you on your bike) is definitely leaving the RA and not coming around. So reliance exclusively on others signals is not correct or sensible. This means that if your exit signal was missed, its probably not a big problem. Overthinking whilst riding is unhelpful, and when riding we all have to make decisions in the moment. I or your instructor on the day will be happy to discuss further when you revisit us for your retest if you wish. I hope this helps, all the best
Hi Phil, thanks for the comprehensive answer. It makes complete sense & I now fully understand what to do. Are you one of the instructor at the Herne Bay test centre!? I’m re taking my test end of august. I used Dexterity in Ashford who are very good, is there an opportunity for me to call Invicta & book a couple of hours with you riding around Herne Bay? I have now moved to whitstable since March & used Dexterity since I did my CBT with them a year ago when I lived in Ashford but having seen your videos, I would be keen to to book your services for a couple of hours to find tune my riding skills, not only for the test itself but just to gain general tips & confidence. Is it something. That can be organized via Invicta? (Ps: I have my MOD 1). And last, an idea for you, what about a video about riding at night? Looking forward to hear from you. Thanks, Cedric.
@Cedric Duwat hi Cedric, thank you for your night video suggestion. I will address this when the days get even shorter! As regards training, can you drop me an e mail motorcyclepwr@gmail.com all the best
What if a car wasnt sure and they went around the roundabout twice? would that mess everything up with cutting people off? surely it wouldnt be your fault if some random car driver didnt know where they were going around the roundabout?
@Steve00 Alt its ok to go all the way round a roundabout if you are not sure where you are going, but should be done in the inside/right lane, not the outside/left. This should not cause a problem for traffic joining, if speeds are sensible and usual rules and good observations are applied. Ride safe
When turning right at a roundabout, you enter the roundabout go round and you see that the exit is blocked, do you stop and wait until the exit is clear or do you go round again until the exit is clear? This is for mod2. Would it be an issue to stop inside the roundabout? Hopefully that makes sense
@D G i think this one has variables, because it will depend on several factors. What has to be considered first is safety and interference with other road users. If by stopping on a roundabout and you are likely to be struck from behind then you can expect a serious fault, similarly, if you were to block other road users from using the roundabout then expect a serious fault. If you are part of a big queue of traffic the issues become a bit less. If in doubt, go around again or take another exit safely. I cant give a categoric answer, but hope this helps.
@@MotorcyclePWR yes it helps. Also, if you’re coming out of a minor to a major road and are turning right but both sides are extremely busy and a car coming from the right hand side let’s you out by flashing you but the other side traffic is still moving. Do you move out to the middle of the road in from of the car that has flashed you and wait for the other side to let you in or do you just wait until both sides are clear? Grey area but can see it being a issue during a test
@Juris Timma Sorry to hear that you didnt complete your CBT, remember its not pass or fail, just training until you are safe. I hope this video helps you and you complete your CBT soon
I don't have any issues with roundabouts but probably 90% of other road users seem to be clueless which means your awareness and obs must be spot on. That 90% of other road users need to watch this excellent instructional video.
1- Very positive calming voice.
2- Clear instructions.
3- Highly confident & Experienced.
4- Very Motivated.
5- Top level Alertness.
many thanks, ride safe
Quite simply the best video on roundabouts and lifesavers I've seen ......and I've seen a lot explained everything perfectly many thanks I take my test soon
Many thanks for your kind feedback, much appreciated. i wish you well for your test, let me know how you get on. If I can help with anything let me know, all the best
did you pass
@@lukemason927 yes mate
Invaluable! I'll be on a journey early tomorrow morning that involves a lot of awkward roundabouts (Black Country Route, West Midlands): I'll be thinking of this advice all the way.
Good stuff, ride safe
Fantastic video
Really makes sense when you break it down like you have 👍
Passed my mod 2 yesterday and have a very good handle on roundabouts but you can never have too much info or knowledge- cheers for posting!
I was getting confused about lifesavers at roundabouts after getting different advice from instructors but this is the clearest explanation I've seen. Many thanks.
This is honestly the best video on entire TH-cam regarding roundabouts motorcycle training. Thank you
Thank you for your feedback, it is much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed and found the video useful. All the best, ride safe
Yes I did learn a lot, thank you. I wish all the motorcycle instructors are so knowledgeable as you are, and can explain it so well as you did in this video. Honestly the overall quality with nice clear voice over and production looks like it's been made by BBC or DVSA. It is very very professional and the information value of this video is absolutely priceless. I wouldn't be surprise if some company would buy all your videos and package them as a video learning tool, because they are so good.
Thats great to hear, thank you for your very positive comments. The main aim of course is to try to help bikers stay as safe as possible. Im please that you found it helpful, and hope some of my other videos will be helpful too. Many thanks again.
This is an excellent video for anyone who practicing module 2. Very clear explanation. Thak your making this. I am very happy and i learnt a lot.
I've watched multiple videos about roundabout procedure and this is the first one that makes a comment about what to do if there is someone in your blindspot. Thanks!
Hi Phil, I asked you for a video on how to use roundabouts, wow... Did you deliver!!! OMG yes you did!!! The whole video from start to finish is simply brilliant. It's the best one yet!!! The diagrams and editing must have taken ages to do. First class quality. 10/10 for accurate information & content. Hopefully this will inform all road users not just motorcyclists of how to use roundabouts safely. Live to ride, ride to live. Cheers again Bob
thanks for the feedback Bob, glad you enjoyed it, lets hope it does help some road users out there! All the best
Hi Phil love your videos bits Maurice here from Ireland 'm just wondering is it okay to do a left life saver banked to the right but looking to go straight on. through a roundabout.
Passed my MOD 2 today thanks to your videos! Amazingly well put together. Thanks!
@Ski congratulations, you re very welcome, im glad they were of some help, ride safe
Thank you Phil, really helpful for my MOD 2; this has got to be the definitive and most comprehensive video for us learners!
@Will Thank you for your comment, really glad this helped. I wish you well for your Mod 2, all the best
This was exactly the video I wanted on livesavers to refresh my knowledge. Brilliant thanks.
I had lots of queries regarding roundabouts and signalling as I have my test soon and you’ve literally addressed them all…thank you 🙏🏼
This has been the most thorough and comprehensive video I have seen regarding roundabouts for a motorcyclist on youtube. This is excellent. Mod 2 coming for me very shortly, and roundabouts, in particular signalling and lifesaver checks, are giving me the most to think about. This video has explained so much for me. Many thanks Motorcycle PWR!
Glad it was helpful! i wish you well for your mod2
Asked that question Phil because I failed my MOD2 at this very set of tricky roundabouts a few weeks ago in Herne Bay… Lost my composure, knew what to do but the instructor gave me 3 sets of instructions during the independent driving & I forgot what I was meant to do half way through…. You are the best & your videos are gold dust!
@Cedric Duwat Ah sorry to hear that, I hope you pass next time. With independent riding, if you forget the directions the best thing to do is to make the route up yourself and ride safely as the examiner wants to see how you ride without being given individual directions.
Many thanks for your compliments, ride safe, all the best
This video almost as good as riding the real thing with an instructor. In fact, for pre & post maneuver analysis it's probably better, as there's the time to let the explanations behind the correct actions and their rationale sink in. Thanks for a bit of extra confidence (mod2 in 3 days)
@Andrew Tuley thank you for your comments, I am glad it has been of some help to you. I wish you well for your Mod 2. All the best
Possibly the best video for negotiating roundabouts!
I’ve been trying to find a video like this for ages I have my CBT coming up in 2 weeks and it’s been terrifying me of how roundabouts work this was explained very simple and very easy to understand. Thank you massive help!
@Marco Manic thank you for your comment, im glad you find this helpful. Training can sometimes be daunting, but your instructor should be helpful and appreciative of any concerns you have. CBT is not a test but a training course, so try to enjoy it and build your confidence. If you need training for more than one day that is fine, and if you are not confident good schools will help you further. Let me know if i can advise with anything else. All the best
How did it go? Mines tommorow morning 💀
This lesson is a pure gold, thank you for shearing your knowledge.
@Karol Janik thank you, much appreciated
This is the best video about roundabouts!! Thank you so so much!!!
Such a helpful and clear approach to explaining how to tackle roundabouts!
I know all the information you have explained however to have it all refreshed in one go is confidence inspiring and has helped illuminate the grey areas in my memory. Thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful! all the best
One of the best explanation of life saver and roundabout line positioning
@aslat rajpoot thank you, glad its helpful, all the best
An excellent video may well save lives, certainly will help test candidates a guy i know failed his Mod2 last week for messing up on a roundabout (lane discipline) 😢
learner driver from Hong Kong. Thanks for the video, very informative.
You are welcome!
Got my MOD 2 next week, great advice here, thanks
Thank you, i wish you well with your Mod 2 Ride safe
@@MotorcyclePWR thanks I passed 🏍️
@@irishzombie22able well done, very pleased for you. ride safe
Slowly going though all your videos as got my Mod 2 in 10 days , but this has certainly cleared up roundabouts for me, and when to use or not use a life saver, onto the next video🙂
Thank you, i wish you well with your test.
Yet another excellent video from Motorcycle PWR ...
You talked about anticipating that other road users may be wrongly positioned or in the wrong lane. One particular point that may be worth calling out here is that pedal cyclists are/were *advised* in the Highway Code (rules, 79, 182) that they may take the left-hand lane when turning right, so may be in places you don't expect *and legitimately so*
To my mind this is not helpful advice - and as a pedal cyclist of many years I will always use the same lane as a motor vehicle would use for whichever exit - but I can recognise that slower or less confident cyclists may take the advice at face value, especially on larger and faster roundabouts.
Hi Phill, I took a Submarine to Portsmouth back in the 90’s. I miss the exacting hospitality…love those brandy laced mincemeat pies, and Christmas Crackers. I find your graphics very helpful, and not unlike what I do to my screenshots. The comment about never getting instruction to, “Go straight” on a Roundabout is so intuitive to me but my Ram Truck navigation tells me to do that all the time. Top shelf instruction mate. I have to reverse the instructions but the quality training is well worth it. USN, Ret. 2020 Fat Boy 114, subscribed
Thank you so much for your comments, much appreciated and very interesting. Im glad you got to visit over here and enjoyed the hospitality.
Ride safe, all the best
Very well explained. This can help to me for tomorrow.
Thank you so much for this video I have 2x 3 hour lessons tomorrow and my test on Tuesday so this is a great help... I drive articulated lorries so the difference from that to a bike is a lot different.
youre welcome, i wish you well with your test
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank you 🙂
Just passed 1 minor thanks to your videos 👍👍
Congratulations Dave, a great result. Glad the videos helped. Enjoy your biking, all the best
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank you for producing great videos all this information helps.... Now it's time to really learn 🙂
Legend, got my mod 2 tommrow this has given me a lot more comfidence
@Bil Bradley glad this has been helpful, I wish you well with your Mod 2, ride safe
I always do a life saver going straight across on roundabouts as well as a right one over shooters on the left are common
Good well explained video great help thanks.
Just perfect, exactly what I needed.
Thanks - this is useful. I have my MOD 2 next week (retake for the 2nd time) and failed 1st time as I froze at a mini roundabout and had priority when I could have gone and did not do a left shoulder check when exiting a roundabout in the right hand land (did a left shoulder check).
i hope this helps, and your mod 2 goes well
The best video ever , I found it very useful, many thanks 😊 for sharing
An excellent resource. Thanks for uploading!
You're very welcome!
Just passed today..learnt alot from your vids
@nosh121081 congratulations, glad the videos helped, ride safe..
@@MotorcyclePWR thank you
Well I passed thanks to this! Thanks
Congratulations. Glad it was helpful
Very useful as always. Thanks 👍
Thanks for a very thorough video
Thanks for the information , appreciated.
Have really enjoyed your videos.
So no need to signal on the approach for a second left exit, only after passing the first? Great video 😊
Great video , the information you have given is brilliant , im doing my CBT soon and im sure this video will help me , Thanks :)
@Elmwood 1965 thank you, you re welcome, enjoy your cbt
Found this super helpful! Thanks for the upload!!!
@boomshewaddywaddy thank you, much appreciated.
Hi. At 14:52 you joined the roundabout when there was already traffic (the white lorry) on the roundabout approaching from the right. I have been instructed that I will fail my test if I do this. What is the correct procedure?
Excellent video. Thank you
After having spent a good week looking at various videos, I came across this channel and the content here is described in far more depth and clarity than any other I've come across. I feel more confident now. Thank you.
you are welcome, i am glad the videos help, all the best
First class, thank you.
What would you do at 21:29 if the vehicle decides to continue around? Would you continue going around and then take the third exit?
Also an amazing video. I learned a lot for my MOD 2.
Hi thank you for your question. It really depends on how it works out, your closeness to that vehicle and your speed would influence your decision. I would sometimes linger until it’s clear then continue on my intended course, but slowing dramatically or stopping on a roundabout is rarely a safe idea, so yes, going all the way around is a good option
Thanks really helpful. At 09:02, you were turning right and exited the roundabout from lane 2 straight into lane 1. You did a lifesaver, but essentially you seem to have completed 2 manoeuvres 1) lane change and 2) roundabout exit in one go. Had there been someone in lane 1 exiting at the same place, would you have maintained a line in lane 2?
Hi thanks for your question. The short answer is yes, I would have stayed in lane 2. The lifesaver had covered the exit so either lane was a possibility. All the best
I was waiting over 2 month for CBT test but I failed because of the roundabouts, is not that I don't know he was confusing me with (Take right and ......) And hes English accent was very strong I could barely understand. Thank you for doing this video explaining everything 🙏
@Khatir thank you for your comments. Its important to know that no one fails their cbt because it is not a test, but a training course. This means a student must train until they demonstrate a level of competence to be safe and legal, and the time taken varies for different students. I am glad you found the video useful and I am sure that you will successfully complete your cbt soon. Get in touch if you need further help. All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR i didn't understand when you said no one fails!!!!
So why did he told me that he can't give me CBT because I couldn't understand what's 12 o'clock and after 3 o'clock?!!
I was driving for 2 hours in very safe way,
Plus I have driven license and I past all the highway code even all tha he didn't want to.
Can I complain?!!
@Khatir there is often confusion about CBT! So CBT is a course of training with 5 elements. A student can only progress from A to B, B to C etc when they have the required understanding and competence as required. So unlike the driving test when you make a serious fault and you fail no matter how good the rest of your driving is, CBT is a course of continual training and assessment until an instructor is satisfied that the student has completed all elements safely enough to receive the CBT certificate of completion. (Not pass certificate!) So a student may complete in one day, or they may need to re attend for further training until a safe standard is reached. This may even be over a period of weeks.
I cannot comment specifically on individual cases as I am not in possession of all facts, but: a student cannot not complete a CBT just because they do not understand 12 or 3 o clock, but if an instructor feels that a student is not safely negotiating roundabouts then they are not able to issue a certificate. So you may just need another road ride to work on and demonstrate competency with roundabouts for a certificate to be issued if everything else is ok.
There is a course of complaint via the DVSA website, but it is first worth taking the matter up with the training school to find out exactly what needs to be done for you to achieve your certificate.
You may well have thought you rode well, but most instructors are very well trained in assessment in safe motorcycling and most of us will not, and neither are we permitted to by regulations, issue a cbt certificate if we feel that the student hasnt reached the standard and will have problems on the road by themselves. I hope this helps and you complete your cbt soon.
@@MotorcyclePWR thank You and I completely understand I think I just didn't understand the instructor what he was saying . Thank you again.
@@Khatir.q2l no problem you re welcome, good luck with it all, all the best
Thanks for the video!
How's the dynamic when there are two lanes approaching a roundabout and in the roundabout, and there is a car in each lane, and the exit that both cars want to take only has one lane? Assuming they enter the roundabout simultaneously
Hi thanks for your comment. This is often an interesting scenario and generally 2 lanes in and one out suggests that the right lane shouldn’t be for going ahead but turning right. But there are variables of course. If lane discipline is being used properly then both vehicles should give grace to one another and drive with care and consideration. If someone has used the wrong lane, again consideration is key. There is nothing official here other than to drive with due care and attention and consideration for other road users. It seems to be lacking in modern driving sadly. I tend to allow other road users to do what they need, but if I can accelerate safely away from them then equally I will do that too. Hope this helps, all the best
@@MotorcyclePWR That makes a lot of sense! Sometimes common sense and good road manners are just as important in order to stay safe and avoid bad situations.
Thanks for your answer and take care! And thank you also for the amazing content you produce 😊
Hi Phil, I failed my mod 2 2weeks ago I'm no spring chicken at 52 I was so nervous and had no lessons for 4 months because of covid but that is not an excuse I rode on my test a nervous wreck so it's that I need help with I will try to keep calm this time 🙏👍
@Anthony Fairbanks sorry to hear that, at least Mod 1 is in the bag! I get the nervous thing, i get worse the older i get, we are of the same vintage! I always advise my students, ride like you are on your own, treat the examiner as a satnav on a bike, and if necessary talk out loud to yourself in a commentary like i do on my videos; it keeps your focus and leaves less room for nerves. Also, just ride and do what you think is correct, dont second guess what the examiner wants to see. If you ride safely and legally you will pass, if you make mistakes its either nerves or you do need further training. We all make mistakes, it doesnt mean its a fail though so let it go and keep focussed until the debrief. All the examiners I meet are really nice guys, and more importantly, they are bikers!
50 here and failed my Mod 2 first try too, quite spectacularly, i dropped the bike at a junction and the test was terminated, i was absolutely gutted, second test was a lot better and i passed (February 2020), i tried to keep calm by reminding myself i'm doing it as a hobby, also just looked at the first failed test as a practice run so i knew what to expect next time. Great when you eventually pass though and it's amazing getting out on your own bike, well worth it.
Thank you for this, gained some good knowledge. Cheers, Lee
thanks Lee, Glad it was helpful!
Genuinely curious to learn.... Did you miss a lifesaver at 11:19 or was that because you entered the right lane of the exit that you didn't... Please could you explain the situation... Great video, thank you!
Thank you for your question. A recommended lifesaver there would be to the left. It wasn’t clear in the video if I did one but it looks as though I didn’t. Possible reasons for not doing it were because I was staying in my lane all the way through and I was already well aware of the absence of traffic to my left. But definitely worth a check for newer riders. All the best.
@@MotorcyclePWR thanks, really grateful for your explanation, that definitely helps me think about the situation better, thank you.
Keep making great content!
Kindest regards
SR
Whats the appropriate speed while going around the roundabout? Thanks so much
@Nikolina L Hi thank you for your question. Unfortunately there isn't a default mph answer to the question.
However, speed for roundabouts, as with all hazards will depend on a number of considerations.
Some considerations will be volume of traffic, size and layout of roundabout, available visibility, and which exit you are taking in relation to your entry onto the roundabout.
One major factor to consider when deciding on speed when using a roundabout is could you respond safely if another vehicle pulled out in front of you? If you are fast on a motorcycle whilst cornering your lean angle will increase, leaving little grip for firm braking in the event of a vehicle putting you at risk: therefore slowly around and accelerate away to exit when the road ahead permits is safest.
However, when going ahead at a roundabout with little to no traffic and great visibility you might be going relatively quickly, as opposed to a right turn which would be a lot slower.
Its also worth remembering that roundabouts are supposed to assist traffic flow, vehicles travelling fast on a roundabout may cause difficulty to other road users in joining, so a more measured use of speed allows others to join safely and get on with their journey too.
I hope this helps and feel free to ask further questions. All the best.
Thank you !
The bit that confuses me about roundabouts are when the sign and the exits do not match.
E.g some roundabout signs show 2nd exit at 12 o'clock. But the roundabout 2nd exit in actuality is at 2 o'clock.
With visibility you may not always know until you're at the roundabout.so you could be in the the wrong lane.
I'm not sure if that makes sense
Hi Matt. Yes it does make sense and is something i see quite a lot. I dont know why highways authorities do it. Usually in test training, we advise students to work from the signs as the default.
In some areas instructors may give separate advice if there are roundabouts with known procedures. In post test training things can differ, primarily because the rider should be more competent in machine control and therefore has more room in the brain to assess the road and make more complex plans and decisions.
So Roadcraft says that generally the best route through a roundabout is the shortest route from entry to exit. So providing there is no adverse effect on safety or another road user the rider has a reasonable degree of flexibility.
But where there is no early visibility of road layout, no local knowledge or pre warning of layout via sat nav I would always advise using the signs as the guide, and in situations where the 12 o clock sign exit now appears at 2 o clock on the road for example, make sure your awareness and blind spot checks are thorough, as in essence you would be turning right from the left lane which carries possible risks of conflict with a road user taking the same exit but approaching from the right lane. All the best.
At 25:37, you have come to a halt. Do you then complete the roundabout in first gear, feathering the clutch or do you tend to get into 2nd asap and then go around with clutch. I find on my 650 that first gear makes the throttle a bit jumpy and harder to control the line. Would appreciate your thoughts?
Hi thanks for your question. Either, I often get into second as soon as possible and prefer not to change gear when cornering. Clutch slip is of great help so I would go with what suits you and the bike at the time. But keeping it smooth is helpful. All the best
Thank you for the great video! At 11:08, isn't the second exit between 6 and 12 o'clock, so shouldn't it be treated as left? Sorry, I may be wrong but trying to wrap my head around this roundabout.
@Wicked Adonis hi, thank you for your comment. Roundabouts can be confusing some times! So in the example you mention, as we look at the road sign we have 2 exits shown, one left at 9 o clock, and one at 12 o clock (ahead). You are right, usually between 6 and 12 o clock it would be a left lane approach. But here, because there is no right turn shown on the sign (other than a U turn) , and there are 2 lanes on the entry we can choose the right lane to go ahead, which is beneficial as I am already planning to turn right at the next roundabout. There are also 2 lanes on the exit of this R/A, not clear maybe to a stranger but local knowledge helps us here. It would not be wrong to use the left or the right in this case to go ahead.
To complicate matters further, there is actually an extra exit to the right to an industrial area (not seen clearly in the video) and not marked on the road sign. However, this is of no real consequence to what I have mentioned above.
I hope that this helps? All the best
Thank you very much for the clarification. Really appreciate it, mate. You and the biking community here on TH-cam make it so easy for us by demystifying such confusing concepts with a great explanation. Cheers!
At 22mins when you accelerated ahead of the truck because you were unsure on what it was going to do, would this be OK on a Mod2 test? Or would the expectation from the examiner to be that you should hold back? But then that could be hesitation? Thanks
@Paul Lovell Hi Paul, thank you for your question. Its difficult to give a definitive answer as to situations that may occur on test because it depends on many factors present at the time. However, in this situation on the video, when I was unsure of the trucks intentions I held back in case he changed lane. This was because we were in a 40 mph limit so going alongside was not safe as i couldnt get past the truck in one go. Had it been a higher speed limit I may have passed the truck quickly. However, when we got to the roundabout because he cant out run me at the low speed I got away quickly and therefore preserved my safety. If you had held back in this scenario it would be likely that you would have to stay behind the truck until you were sure he couldn't cut the lane or side swipe you. This roundabout had fairly wide lanes but some dont, so being alongside a large vehicle is potentially dangerous.
On test, if you break the law or put your self or another road user potentially or actually in danger you will not pass. So if you are safe, its not a problem. Hesitancy is something a lot of people worry about, but safety has to come first. If you are so hesitant that a further problem arises then you may be looking a serious fault on test. But planning and anticipation of possible problems should not cause hesitancy issues. I hope this helps.
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank you so much for the very detailed reply, that was incredibly useful.
@@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha you re welcome, i wish you well on your tests
I failed my mod 2 for stopping past the roundabout entry line at Herne Bay last week. It’s a bad habit I have from driving a taxi in London, inching out to jump in a gap
At 25:20 Surely the Toyota MPV has the right of way not you as there is a crossing on your side of the road and his side of the road is open? Also i was told to give two bike lengths gap between you and the vehicle in front when at a stop.
The Toyota doesn't automatically have right of way, there is no crossing present here; i committed to coming past the part of the road that is built outwards at the point the suv just came into view. After this point there are cars parked on the offside which could mean its my right of way, however being on a bike i didn't need him to give way as there was enough space.
A sensible space between you and the stationary vehicle in front is sensible, although 2 bikes lengths would be advice by an individual instructor and is not necessarily prescriptive industry standard.
12:22 so whether you go into lane 1 or 2 from the roundabout its still a left signal and left observation, nothing changes it's whether you move towards the lane one if there's space or you go in lane 2 is that correct?
Hi, yes in the example shown that is correct. Generally , on roundabouts, the life saver is in the direction of the widest area of road space as this is the highest risk of a vehicle coming alongside and conflicting. For lane changes the priority for a lifesaver is in the direction of the intended movement, although consideration could also be given to risk on the other side too.
@@MotorcyclePWR Just wanna say thank you for the reply and for these videos, probably the most useful ones out there and really helped me pass my Mod 2 today with only 2 minors! thanks again.
You are very welcome, glad to have been of help. Congratulations on your pass and I hope you enjoy your biking. Please consider some further training in the future, you might be surprised how different it is to direct access, and fun too! Ride safe
how do you decide when stopped at a roundabout to look over both shoulders before moving off vs just going. same with traffic lights sometime i see you do it and others not.
@Russell Morrison Hi Russell, thank you for your question. So in general, I will not do lifesavers left or right before moving off onto a roundabout. The reason is that it takes too much time and takes away the focus from the main hazards, which are the traffic on the roundabout. However, I would always consider a lifesaver depending on other traffic and possible risk.
It may appear that I do these checks, but in real terms I am just moving my head left to right in general sweeping observations, but this does also provide a blindspot awareness using my peripheral vision.
At traffic lights I am likely to check blindspots specifically with a lifesaver before moving as I have the time to do so without compromising my awareness.
If I choose not to specifically lifesaver, it may be because I have kept good all round obs going whilst stationary using mirrors and/or head movements and therefore have a good awareness of what is behind and next to me and am happy my blindspots are safe. You may find my rear observations video helpful.
All the best.
Brilliant, thank you.
You're very welcome!
Very informative, thanks 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Phil.
I have had the same jacket as you for a long time and starting to show its age now unlike yours. As far as I know they have stopped making them so is this an old jacket you've had for a long time and only just started using it as I'd like to get the same again 🤔
@Richard Giles Hi Richard, yes they are good jackets, I bought mine circa 2011 and its still serviceable if a little tired. Being Hein Gericke I wouldnt know now where to get a new one sadly.
Thank you.
Your videos are so useful! I have a question. After 11 mnts, you explain that despite going straight at a roundabout, you will use the right hand lane because you’ll go right again at the second roundabout a few hundred yards later. Makes sense. My question is: On exiting the first roundabout on the right hand lane to go straight, would you quickly indicate left on exit? As in, left life saver, left indicator which you then cancel immediately. Hope my question makes sense?
@Cedric Duwat hi Cedric, many thanks and thanks for your question which makes perfect sense.
So I would consider an indicator; if there was a vehicle going ahead in the left lane (same direction as me) I probably would not signal as he may interpret that I would be moving across in front of him. However, if there was a car waiting to join the roundabout and was looking to see if I was going to turn right in front of him without signalling then I would likely do a quick left flash to show my intention to leave the roundabout so that they could enter the roundabout. I hope this makes sense? All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR Thanks Phil. Let me paraphrase to ensure my understanding is correct: If there’s a vehicle following you in the left hand lane of that 1st roundabout because they’re exiting left at the second roundabout, they might think you’re about to move to your left if indicating left. So no indicator on exit. But if the roundabout is busy and vehicles travelling in the opposite direction from the bottom to the top, when looking to their right, your left indicator will tell them they can go ahead because you’re not turning right & going ahead. Would the instructors in Herne Bay let you get away with no indicator when exiting a roundabout though? That’s the question in the back of my mind… Not to mention both scenarios could happen as these roundabouts can be quite busy at rush hour… You could have both a vehicle following you in the left hand lane & vehicles going up looking to their right? Would a left indicator be considered as a major fault? I don’t want to over think it but I don’t want to fail again either…
@Cedric Duwat Hi Cedric, yes you are thinking right here. So when using signals, we have to look at the effect that using them or not could/would have on you and/or another road user. So is an effect is negligible or non existent, then there is no issue. But if there is an effect that compromises safety or requires the other road user to take action, then yes it would be serious. As regards the most complex scenario you mention, if your lane discipline was good (centre of lane, steady) then a brief left indicator would probably be unlikely to concern a following vehicle. However, a vehicle waiting to enter a roundabout should technically wait to see that the vehicle on the RA (in this case you on your bike) is definitely leaving the RA and not coming around. So reliance exclusively on others signals is not correct or sensible. This means that if your exit signal was missed, its probably not a big problem.
Overthinking whilst riding is unhelpful, and when riding we all have to make decisions in the moment. I or your instructor on the day will be happy to discuss further when you revisit us for your retest if you wish. I hope this helps, all the best
Hi Phil, thanks for the comprehensive answer. It makes complete sense & I now fully understand what to do. Are you one of the instructor at the Herne Bay test centre!? I’m re taking my test end of august. I used Dexterity in Ashford who are very good, is there an opportunity for me to call Invicta & book a couple of hours with you riding around Herne Bay? I have now moved to whitstable since March & used Dexterity since I did my CBT with them a year ago when I lived in Ashford but having seen your videos, I would be keen to to book your services for a couple of hours to find tune my riding skills, not only for the test itself but just to gain general tips & confidence. Is it something. That can be organized via Invicta? (Ps: I have my MOD 1). And last, an idea for you, what about a video about riding at night? Looking forward to hear from you. Thanks, Cedric.
@Cedric Duwat hi Cedric, thank you for your night video suggestion. I will address this when the days get even shorter!
As regards training, can you drop me an e mail motorcyclepwr@gmail.com
all the best
What if a car wasnt sure and they went around the roundabout twice? would that mess everything up with cutting people off? surely it wouldnt be your fault if some random car driver didnt know where they were going around the roundabout?
@Steve00 Alt its ok to go all the way round a roundabout if you are not sure where you are going, but should be done in the inside/right lane, not the outside/left. This should not cause a problem for traffic joining, if speeds are sensible and usual rules and good observations are applied. Ride safe
When turning right at a roundabout, you enter the roundabout go round and you see that the exit is blocked, do you stop and wait until the exit is clear or do you go round again until the exit is clear? This is for mod2. Would it be an issue to stop inside the roundabout? Hopefully that makes sense
@D G i think this one has variables, because it will depend on several factors. What has to be considered first is safety and interference with other road users. If by stopping on a roundabout and you are likely to be struck from behind then you can expect a serious fault, similarly, if you were to block other road users from using the roundabout then expect a serious fault. If you are part of a big queue of traffic the issues become a bit less. If in doubt, go around again or take another exit safely.
I cant give a categoric answer, but hope this helps.
@@MotorcyclePWR yes it helps. Also, if you’re coming out of a minor to a major road and are turning right but both sides are extremely busy and a car coming from the right hand side let’s you out by flashing you but the other side traffic is still moving. Do you move out to the middle of the road in from of the car that has flashed you and wait for the other side to let you in or do you just wait until both sides are clear? Grey area but can see it being a issue during a test
This has changed now in terms of position, hasn’t it?
how many roundabouts where you live? jeeeez
quite a few!!
I did not pass my CBT ....roundabouts was problem for me...
@Juris Timma Sorry to hear that you didnt complete your CBT, remember its not pass or fail, just training until you are safe. I hope this video helps you and you complete your CBT soon
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