Enough with the excuses, Boxing Sucks…
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2023
- Chael Sonnen talks Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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Chaels going to milk this all week. I’m here for it 😂
100%. I'm loving it.
hahaahah
All I got to say is both Tyson and Francis are lucky they didn't have to box Uncle Chael.
This was fascinating. I can't turn it off.
@@jaysmith2151Did I hear Chael right he actually referred to Francis as under sized?
As a grown adult, I walk around the house and pretend to be Chael Sonnen.
Facts. Only real adults understand this.
💪🏽
@@damonjank1530 but how’s your Stone Cold though?
@@SavageHanma not southern enough to pull it off 😂😂
Growing up, I was captivated by the likes of Nigel Benn, Eubank, Tyson, and Lewis. Back then, boxing felt like a genuine competition between warriors. Saw Tyson Fury's first pro fight and thought he was a joke. Now, he's considered one of the greatest, but after seeing him struggle against someone who's never boxed professionally, I feel like the curtain's been pulled back. Boxing's not the sport I fell in love with anymore.
You’ve got a point, if you have a sport where the best compete against the best it will only raise the skill level and elitism of the sport. Boxers today are sheltered for 95% of their career and even when they become champion of the world they only occasionally fight the truly elite guys, you literally have world champions fighting part time taxi drivers regularly, that can only lead to a drop in skill overall in the sport
Neither is MMA. I've been watching boxing since 1985 and MMA since first televised event. It's the same shit man. They're both in the absolute goofy talk your way to a title social media goof stage.
@@richardyocum-qi7dbnot the same at all lmao. Boxers fight nobodys in title fights regularly. That just doesn’t happen in the UFC.
@@michaelrushton2379the UFC isn’t all of MMA. You do realize MMA fighters fight bums before they join the UFC right?
Could this be the comeback of kung fu?
Ngannou looked like a bum when a heavyweight boxer ACTUALLY prepared for a fight
TRUE. ALSO AJ WAS IN NO POSITION TO PLAY AROUND RIGHT NOW.
We all know why Francis dominated that fight. 4 reasons.
1. The Ridge Wallet was keeping his cash secure, so he had a clear head in the ring.
2. Magic Spoon Cereal gave him a big energy boost.
3. Manscape helped him cut some weight and kept him moving fast.
4. The most important reason; he got his real training from Uncle Chael which allowed him to dominate the clinch and send Fury to the ground. The very same technique that Uncle Chael used break Jon Jones toe, after which Lord Chael felt bad and allowed Jon to borrow his one of his many Championship Belts.
Undefeated. Undisputed. Never Lost a Round.
I agree with you 100%
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don't forget blue chew. he fought that well after draining his ball bag the night before!
Two things can be true at once
1) Francis might be the freakiest freak in combat sports we've ever seen.
2) Fury overlooked him, _badly_
100%
Fury didn’t take this seriously, Ngannou did.
True dat ☝️
Fury was planning to fight a month after beating Ngannou. That is unheard of in modern day boxing. Goes to show what fury really thought of francis. Didn't respect him at all
Yeah, I do not get why Chael does not get this fact.
Didn't happen to Mayweather, but Conor is more skill than freak athlete.
No one is talking about the best part of this. Tyson trying to a "takedown" and Francis laughing it off effortlessly.
Chael I think the point everyone is missing is that "Francis" is naturally talented. He went to MMA so late and won, and now he boxed and knocked-down Fury while giving a splendid performance. I think it's not about the stuff you're talking about, those rules apply to all normal humans. Meanwhile Francis is naturally gifted just like Jones. I bet if Francis was trained like Jones, he'd have defeated not only Jones but also humiliated Fury too, that's how talented Francis is. He's an outlier and deserves all the respect. Conor wasn't even close to what Francis has done without proper training.
Jon wasn't even the best in his own family
I doubt anyone can make it to be a champion without being naturally gifted.
@@blackpalacemusic
I don't know man. The way Francis ran through all heavyweights, it made them all look average meanwhile Francis had no MMA background too. He was a quick learner like Jones I think.
@@123arskas He's definitely exceptional
@@123arskashe lost to derrick lewis 😂😂
Chael
I’m in sales and I must say from the bottom of my heart, that I listen to your channel for two reason.
1. Fighting
2. How to communicate and sell a thought/idea so effectively that it is reality
Godspeed Sonnen …
Undisputed, and undefeated.
Never lost a round.
telling his audience what THEY think, feel and know without any way of being corrected helps with the spin
Chael could sell ice to an eskimo.
He never lost a round except the round where Anderson silva submitted him via triangle choke lol
Me too!
Francis couldn’t let him get close
That's gonna be mma phrase forever
LMAO
Words to live by!
Franicis Ngannou might not only be a freakish athlete, He might also be a freakishly intelligent fighter. Look at his life trajectory, he's a clearly a super driven, focused and smart man. He seems well spoken, respectful and direct in interviews. He speaks 3 languages, conducts interviews competently in English without a translator even though he hasn’t been speaking the language for very long. Pretty incredible considering his life story.
Story for yas...in my youth I boxed amateur for 10 years starting at age 7. I coached for a couple years after and got into karate. I tested for my purple belt and one of the instructor judges noticed my hands during the spar component and invited me up to instruct his black belts who were a traveling full contact competitive crew. I agreed and he made each one spar me with no kicks, only hands, full on Go! Long story short it didn't go well for adult men who had been told they were the most dangerous humans on the planet and some 19 year old kid came in and cleaned house...badly. shockingly. Even I couldn't believe it. It was so bad that they refused to allow their main instructor to have me back. Humility is sometimes a very hard pill to swallow. I'm no tough guy. Hell now I'm the old guy once again teaching the young kids and my youth has long passed. My point here is, you have to be well rounded this day and age. No longer can you rely on things like kicks only. You never really could when it comes right down to it. Boxing will always have its place but must be fortified with other skills. Had those fellas been able to use those legs that night it very well could have ended differently. Just thought I'd share an old dudes hayday story.
Exactly! Being well rounded in all areas is key. But I still believe even the best mma guys, when you have to compete against the best in just one discipline, they lose. Jake Paul has proven that with boxing vs MMA fighters. Gordan Ryan would do the same in jujitsu. “A jack of all trades but a master of none, but often times it’s better then a master of one”.
It's not the same if they can't kick but in reality what would happen especially if you was in a bar with no rules? You definitely would of wanted to know more about what the body can do and take
@@ericmoore8739I wouldn't really use Jake Paul matches as an example.
@gamesps9562 why? It was mma guys trying boxing and got knocked out by a TH-camr.
@@anthonyanderson9303 Jake Paul is not a boxer. He handpicks his opponents to make the headlines and it's a cash grab for both individuals. MMA fighters who accepted his challenge didn't get there to win, but make easy money. I assume minimum training and passion. You just can't be real human but an NPC if you take his fights seriously.
It’s a literal scam fest, these boxers need to start making that walk to the octagon. The judges won’t be needed
Need, lol boxers don’t need too unfortunately.
Bro I wish. I love mma and I train boxing everyday and want to become pro. But mma has no money :( boxing has a lot more money and way easier than mma
Unfortunately ufc judges aren't much better these days
@@devoniousmaximus533 I agree wid dis, but as I just said the UFC judges won’t be needed because if a boxers tries to fight a MMA fighter in the octagon he’ll be finished for sure
Ngannou sent Overeem’s head into orbit, does that mean Dutch Kickboxing is shit? No. Ngannou is a special human and Tyson Fury is as overrated as he is unpleasant to look at topless.
Boxing is still an amazing sport and fun competition to watch. It’s a shame the corruption has ruined the sport
did you not watch the video? it fake
@@KeCasgrimolait is real
This is an interesting take for sure. I think one definitely has to consider what youre sayin based off the recent big time fights in boxing, but when I think about what would happen between a boxing champion and someone who has legitimately never stepped into any type of martial arts gym before, the inexperienced person would without a doubt get smoked badly. That being considered, I think the best way to decide the legitimacy of a sport is to base it off what factors make up the sport, how long all these factors take to learn, and how far do they separate you from the competition when you learn them. Taking BJJ and boxing for example, it might take someone 5-10 years to be able to compete with the highest BJJ competition, but it might take that same person 1-5 years to be able to compete with the highest level boxers. So it might not be that boxing is not a legitimate sport but rather people can close the skill gap faster than previously thought because boxing is limited in how many factors are present with a ruleset only allowing the use of your hands. Perhaps athleticism can take over more at the highest levels because it takes less time to get to that level for athletes trying to get there. But boxing is still definitely effective and shouldnt be taken as joke. Its probably the most focused skill set of any martial art but because of that its skillset can learned quicker than the rest.
That was one of your better pieces.
Well done, Uncle Chael.
Thoughtful and informative! 💥👊
You have to be completely daft
Boxing is a beautiful art. Modern day boxers ducking the best competition is what got them to this point.
It's corrupt to the core. They get a young Mayweather or a young Fury and have them fight professional cans. Boxers who are 3-46 or have a 6-112 record. They then beat can after can until that young Fury is 20-0 and they build his name up enough to where he starts making millions of dollars and fights halfway legitimate boxers. Then all of the young undefeated guys who have fought nothing but cans end up meeting and having mega fights. That's when you have an undefeated Wilder vs an undefeated Fury. It was probably the first or at least one of the first true boxing matches that either one had. That's modern boxing
@@RonniePTexanLOL dude you are just pulling numbers out of your ass. They do build boxers on softer competition as they are coming up but not no 6-112 dudes, what are you talking about lol now Tyson Fury's brother Tommy fury is a guy who fought tons of guys with negative records but he is far from a great boxer
It's a beautiful illusion. Business disguised as sport, and the billions keep flowing. Amazing
@@RonniePTexan rigged like a mofo - not for sport, but for money
Francis advantage was his strong legs.. Wilder has skinny legs so Fury wore him down holding him up. Fury just feints, throws and wears the opponent down clinching and leaning on them... Francis kept his shoulder between them and created space... his MMA brought a different dimension of experience to Fury, and threw off his game.
His biggest advantage was being criminally overlooked
Exactly, that Greco Roman grappling is what set his advantage
Bone jones has small legs
Yeah, Tyson is a lard butt and leans himself on people. Just like a Klitchko. Which is illegal and repeatedly done. A point should be taken. It ruins the complete fight.
I'm happy for Ngannou.
Fury's smothering tactics made redundant.
I think you very correct about your assessments Sir. I have experienced it. I only train on Sundays for about a year and 5hen stopped for some two years. I went back and train with someone for a week and he's been in boxing for 15yrs. We sparred and I gave him a red eye that lasted for days and almost knocked him down.
Of course he hit me well too and my nose let out some blood, but the fact I shook him made him be careful. It reminded me of the Francis vs Fury fight.
Reverse the roles. If you had trained for 15 years and you both sparred, would the outcome be the same? Natural talent exists - its what seperates shit professionals from great ones, not the sport itself.
Francis surprised us all. Don’t think people gave him enough credit for how big strong & athletic he is. How discipline he is. I owe him an apology. Once in a lifetime athlete. Freak of nature. He believed in himself when no one else did.
Nobody will deny Ngannou is a unique athlete with freak genetics... but it's purely logical to think that it was virtually impossible for him to train up to the level of champion that has trained most of his life as a boxer. I think the real question is; is HW in boxing overrated?
@@MickayG Heavyweight boxing's draw was never necessarily the talent or skill between the opponents (even though there have been countless amazingly talented, skilled heavyweights), but rather seeing two big individuals fight each other. The heavyweight division has always been the biggest monetary pull
Francis is irrelevant. Have fun waiting years between his pissing matches with promoters and whatever "fight" he takes.
Except Iron Mike
@@Michaelkaydee There are more of those freak athletes ... Mike Tyson of course is one... Joel Romero is also build different. Shaq is one.
Thank you uncle chael. It really is a load of bollocks, the best fighters 95% of the time don’t even manage to fight their equals during their careers. Padded records to make it look flashy, it shouldn’t have taken wilder 45+ fights to finally fight a good pro in Ortiz. Then he went straight onto fury and has made his name off a draw and two losses, done nothing since. It’s heavyweight boxing that’s the issue, that’s why I respect Usyk for coming up as an undisputed and getting on with his fights so can fight for another undisputed but Luke fury been running for nearly 2 years now
Mike Tyson is 50 and 6 and people only know who the 6 were unfortunately
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@@JayLee-od8ob The 50 are spectacularly wom by Iron Mike.
Many pro boxers, even some of the bigger guys like multi division world champs said they were shocked by Ngannou's poise and boxing skill. Lennox Lewis conceded that many of the top 10 Heavyweights would have won that night vs Fury.
How wild of a fight was that.
@@rakiestFury knew he was in trouble early. He didn't train, so he wouldn't have the stamina to make Francis look foolish. But he chose his spots and won 7 rounds. Against almost any top 10 fighter he would have lost.
“Karate will get you hurt.” Chael P Sonnen, man hurt by Machida doing karate. Gotta admit his statement is undisputed.
You clearly never got hit by a karate chop.
🤣🤣@@ramihamdan1966
“Don’t brush your teeth, we will put a gold cap on em” - I’ll give you that one 😂
I really appreciate the way you look 👀 at the fight GAME ❤I really learn a lot from your perspective ❤❤🤙👊
Floyd beat Conor without even doing the philly shell once. Francis vs Fury was completely different.
Yeah Floyd was never hurt and his plan was to just gas Conor out and it worked also Conor had reported brain damage from that fight lol completely different
yes heavier weights tend to be easier in most combat sports.
Floyd’s plan was to make as much money as possible and carry Conor late into the fight was him doing that.
floyd beat the shit out of mcgregor and took like a handful of good shots early while being like half his size and really old lol
There's a difference between boxing as a sport and boxing as a business-and for thr longest time, the business has been running the sport and driving it into the dirt.
They've been getting away with it for a long time, so I'm glad that people are stirring an uproar.
If you watch the right people boxing as a sport is incredible. The attention to the smallest of detail is amazing when you know what you’re looking at but yes as a business it’s a bit messed up but that’s because boxers have more freedoms and say in their careers, MMA fighters have little to no say especially in the UFC. Look at the MW division, how DDP isn’t getting a shot at the belt is disgusting but Chimiev is and why? Because business will pollute combat sports regardless
You know I would bet you anything that people wouldn't be saying nothing if Francis would have won or if Tyson fury was black and Francis was white.
@@jaysmith2151tf are you talking about lol
Boxing has been a business since the 1800s! That's the sweet science of it now.
I agree, but people need to stop acting like this is a new or surprising development. Boxing as a monetized sport basically just started as bums being paid to knock eachother out as violently and cheaply as possibly.
Boxing didn't start as some kind of admirable, proud institution and get corrupted, it was just people giving eachother brain damage for money. The fact that it's now much more efficiently monetized is not a bug, it's a feature. The fact that boxers can probably make more money by not fighting the toughest fights is probably more common now, but it's not entirely new.
The classic era everyone looks back on had its own share of similar problems. Things might seem especially bad now, but there's not really any reason why boxing shouldn't be this way. The fact that fighters can make more of the money in the sport or they can take longer breaks from fights is inarguably a good development for their health.
If you care about boxing as a sport, you're kind of shit out of luck, because that's not what it primarily is. It's entertainment.
I'm an MMA man but there's not many people who get hit by Francis and get up.
Tyson Fury is the first person to say yes to a competition with Francis, where you can only stop him punching you by either punching him back, cuddling him or running away.
A few years down the line we might look back on this and think, Tyson did really well to go 10 rounds?
please keep speaking on this!
Regardless of the topic, I always love listening to Chael’s analysis. He’s so well spoken. Much love brother!
And almost no cuts at all. I wish I could do that. I need jump cuts like crazy. Chael is a genius off the cuff.
@Rek_Rc He has a teleprompter lol use your brain pal
@@NoNameGiven-dw3cuBlasphemy! Uncle Chael has never needed a teleprompter and never will
@@NoNameGiven-dw3cu yeah, I doubt that. He's always been amazing at quick fire off the cuff. The best ever actually. Makes Connie Mac look like Tito Ortiz.
@@Rek_Rc asryhole, now I gonna focus on it. xD
Connor did NOT "beat up" Mayweather. What Francis accomplished trumps what Connor did because EVERYONE knew that Floyd allowed Connor to come to him before he decided to put him out. Connor put up a good show and did a good job, but he didn't come off as a threat to Floyd in that fight. Francis on the other hand looked like a dangerous boxer that could become champion. I think we will see more MMA fighters attempt to do boxing.
Nobody can beat mayweather. He's the GOAT. I'd be saying similar about Fury if Francis hadn't arguably beat Fury. Francis is in better shape than every heavyweight boxer. I think he can make a good boxing career.
Deluded if you think Tyson even put in 50% effort into this fight.The whole thing was scripted from the start, all robbed of your PPV, one big money maker that's all it was. Like watching WWF.
I was going to comment this exact thing. Floyd was 40, Conner was 29. Floyd carried Conner then put it on him in the 9th and 10th round to get the technical KO.
Yea Floyd whooped connor Francis beat Tyson way different
Connor was landing almost at will in the early rounds and you can make any excuse you want but that was not in the game plan
Great take
I love you videos you talk like how it is I wait everyday to you drop a video I call it the Chaels Dose
The sport of boxing is amazing, how it’s run and the corruption of it is BS
Sounds like most things on earth imao
Never piss off the Bad Guy or he'll bury your entire sport.
The only one that got buried was ngannou lmfao. Looked like he got taken out with a sniper
Everyone hails Francis’ physical power but his mental is 10x stronger. He’s an intelligent gentleman who is both patient and kind. A true well rounded warrior.
You totally missed Chael's point. Imagine this, a physical specimen, all the heart and determination in the world, all the drive imaginable, but that person never played basketball before. Now ask yourself would Lebron James beat this person in a basketball game? Basketball is an actual sport, so Lebron James would beat this person who never played and it wouldn't matter how much drive, determination, heart etc they had. Lebron James would utterly dominate them and the score would be 100-0.
I think that the thing about boxing(heard this somewhere this week) is that a certain level it only works if your opponent is boxing with you.
Anytime a fighter I like loses in Boxing or MMA I swallow my feelings with a box of magic spoon bought with money straight from my Ridge wallet
Heroin?
😅😂
Francis is the prime example of what a man can accomplish with hard work and self belief the man has a heart of gold
You guys the mf shoveled sand in a mine for years
manual labor has made him so Fukkin huge
And genetics
Not to mention being 6'6 and 300 lbs of muscle.
No one ever believed in him
@@DimmuBehemothKickass Yeah bro, because we've seen it a 100x times and it never turns out like this. Only casuals think a MMA champion will step into a boxing match with the boxing champ and win. Francis is an outlier.
Francis is a genetic phenom - how do you not mention that
There will be movies about Francis, mark my words…his story is the epitome of inspirational.
CORRECTION: Ngannou and Fury both weighed in at somewhere in the 270s. The weight difference was negligible. The difference was Ngannou was a dense wall of muscle and Fury was ball of pudgy fat
Yeah all the TH-cam lazy guys hate the fact that having muscle wins in real fights 😂
It's really mind blowing to me....that not one person has credited Francis's intelligence in that fight.
He out fought the guy who was technically the GOAT.
You don't do that without a level of brilliance.
And crazy strength and conditioning
I think we have to also recognize, his teacher... I think Mike Tyson has found the perfect disciple to pass on his knowledge too... Man just learned years of boxing from one of the greatest fighters in human history.
I did. He went South paw for three rounds, and then the last three rounds of the fight, he went back to Orthodox, and started dominating again. He only switched to southpaw to frustrate fury.
Dream on. He has gorilla strength nothing more.
Fury looked awful in that fight and its not the first tims that happened and he got a dodgy decision
3:50 "I dont have to wonder...they weighed in the day before" 💀😂😂
Literally fell outta my chair when Chael said that😂😂
You didn't literally fall out of your chair....
What am I missing? Why is everyone calling Lucas Tracy Chael?
I don’t have to wonder if you literately fell out of your chair…because I know you didn’t
@@rehobothbitege4560what 😂😂
@@ghoul5371 I think I just bugged out. I clicked on this video thinking it was a LucasTracyMMA video. I think my brain just stopped functioning.
Uncle Chael crushed it!
In addition to the serious points, it’s throw away lines like “you don’t need to brush your teeth, we’ll put caps on ‘em…” HAHA!
“You went over here and hid in a room.” Cold 😂
I've always loved boxing but this video made me realize that I do not love boxing. Thank you Chael Sonnen!
Chael do an episode about why women are a scam so this guy can realize he's gay
I am convinced that is what I must believe also.
Don't hate boxing as a sport. Just hate the corruption that pervades all aspects of our life. Big money and politics rule everything. Smh it's really sad tbh
well said @@granddaddy_funk
I realized Boxing was fake after multiple MMA champs got knocked out by a TH-camr
I’ve been a huge boxing fan most of my 48 years of life and Roy Jones is my favorite fighter, because of how special he was as an athlete, but when Renzo Gracie was offering Roy a million for every minute he lasted in the cage with Renzo, I knew that Roy could not win that fight. Love boxing for what it is. It’s an art and yes, some special athletes can learn enough in a short period of time to step in and give the very best a great fight and even win.
Yeahhe was awesome when he wss smshed by Aussie Danny Green in the 1st round😅😅😅
I grewbup with a few boxers in my home town and they hit their assets kicked by us wrestlers every time they wanted it. Boxing used to be fun to watch, it was never a tough guy thing, it was entertaining and gave us a reason to dress up and go to a fight with our crews. MMA is where you find your tough guys and master fighters and it's bloody and gory.
@@tg3902Danny Greens bum ass could never do that to a prime Jones. By that time there wasn't a decent fighter who couldn't KO Jones, Jon's was beyond shot, and by that time his punch resistance was that of wet toilet paper. So that is no accomplishment and no knock on Jones.
Who in TANK DAVIS' weight class from MMA do you think will have the same outcome as Francis or McWeightBully
Lmfao!! That Mike Tyson impression you did Chael 😂😂
Great video
Boxing lost all credibility this saturday.....nothing in sports will ever be more disgraceful
Oh right, boxing definitely lost the credibility on Saturday and not the entire history of the sport
@@ericpeterson5269 Crawfords last match was pretty damn legit
No it didn't.
One massive caveat being overlooked is its HEAVYWEIGHT boxing, which is sort of its own world
Francis is an outlier of a human.
Agreed boxing is a complete humiliation clearly not a real sport. Goat just got beat by a guy who did it for three weeks.
Have you ever heard of a guy named Jake Paul?
If you aren’t dodging kicks, elbows, and take downs, fighting becomes a lot easier
Exactly
The difference is MMA is an art, and boxing is a "science". MMA is chess, and boxing is checkers.
To be beat by a child prodigy in chess is understandable because it's much more of a complex game. But to be beat by a child prodigy in CHECKERS is so much more embarrassing because the rules and possible outcomes are so much easier to see and predict. It's like letting your kids beat you at tic tac toe. 😂😂😂
No weapons though people laugh at Chinese martial arts until the weapons appear
6:38 cut and glue the boards 😂
One of your best pieces.
I love unhinged Chael just absolutely shitting on boxing
He speaks truth
@@Mac-zl4pohow?
@@flyguy1827 with his mouth and voice
It doesn't suck. Further review is the correct answer. Francis Ngannou is an Exceptional talent. Period
The ending is the best part of this video 😂
Love it bring it
I agree with what you're saying about the level of athletes in combat sports. Yeah there are some very talented people in the sport, but they generally don't approach the level of freak you see in football or basketball. My theory on it all is a hybrid of what you're proposing and the general consensus. Boxing like MMA is legitimate, HOWEVER because the big money is perceived to be in football, basketball, baseball, soccer, the odds of getting the same level of athlete in those sports is lower. Hence, there will occasionally be a guy like Francis who finds his way into combat sports who is able to really capitalize on his athleticism. I've stated for years that if LeBron had chosen MMA or Boxing as a kid, he would likely be an undefeated superstar HW champ. Same goes for any number of guys from big league sports. Doesn't mean the sport is necessarily illegitimate, just that you don't have the same talent pool, though in the case of boxing the problem is compounded by widespread corruption.
I am so glad Chael is sticking it to boxing and making everybody realize that it literally is like the WWE.💪
Boxing is real
I like this video but to say it is WWE... nobody's going to take you seriously.
Wwe is real
Boxing is more dangerous than MMA
as if UFC is some honest sport lol, less money, has plenty of dodge decisions, Mcgregor can get a title shot anytime he wants, all he needs is to get off coke
When Chael gets unhinged, I fucken love it.
By saying all this you are denying the talent and natural brilliance of Ngannou. He was world champion in UFC after a very short time and as a late comer. He’s extremely powerful, athletic and fast. He has incredible natural strength and is just probably a natural genius at fighting. He’s a rare specimen.
The gist of it is that you couldn't just take a great athlete who had never done it before, walk them into a wrestling or BJJ match with the top guys, and get close to winning.
The supposition could be that perhaps Tyson Fury is just not very good. Maybe he's propped up. Or maybe boxing as a discipline is bogus. Or maybe boxing as a sport is rigged.
Chael is putting Francis over more, saying he’s a actual athlete and specimen.
@@jty9631 nailed it. That is basically the TLDR of the video.
@@jty9631 yeah I get it. The alternative is that Francis isn’t just a good athlete. He’s a naturally gifted fighter. Perhaps Fury is that good but Francis is highly gifted. Also, he’s not say an Olympic sprinter or shot putter with no experience, he’s a world class champion combat athlete. The alternative is this: being a mixed martial artist requires much more of an understanding of body mechanics overall than boxing. It probably also requires more sophisticated thinking since there are so many more possible alternatives to attack and be attacked that one must be aware of. Imagine a guitarist who has trained to play like a virtuoso. He’s learned many scales on the neck and many more techniques than someone who has just, for example, learned to play blues. Now put him on stage playing a blues song next to a guy who just plays the blues. He’s confined now by the genre of music, but because he has soooo much more overall skill under his belt, he can still blow a great blues guitarist of stage with his performance. Something like that. It would be unfair to say “well blues is just fake guitar playing, because the other guy doesn’t usually play blues and he kicked his ass!”
No. The other guy is just so technically proficient at the whole guitar neck, he can sit in and play with anyone in that genre or any genre and make them look bad. Saying blues is fake takes so much more away from that player.
To be fair Bo Nickal did pretty damn good vs Gordon Ryan with no JJ experience outside of post PSU mma training. Yes the rules were skewed in Bo’s favor and he ultimately lost but he was very competitive up to that point.
It’s honestly really really sad to see. I loved boxing growing up. We’d always be at the Winghouse every big fight as teens
Cock and balls
I have an old book on my shelf by Curtis Cokes, "The Complete Book of Boxing". On page 21 he seems to resonate with your main point - athleticism can be a crucial factor - when he says, "Natural athletic ability is paramount to becoming a great boxer. ANYONE WHO IS A GOOD ATHLETE CAN BE TAUGHT TO BOX".
Watching Francis beat up Fury was like watching Strickland beat up Izzy. If we told you what was about the happen before the fight, everyone would've laughed until people witness exactly that.
Uncle chael went undefeated while having the striking skills of my arthritis struck great grandma. Goat
Francis trained with Mike Tyson before this fight.
One of the greatest boxers ever.
I agree with chael. Natural athletes excel faster in boxing and all the atg had footwork power and speed.
Tyson Fury, for me has been an extremely unique athlete. I didn't like him at first and didnt want him to beat klichko. I became a fan of his when he did and now has lost my respect for not owning up to the loss. Francis Balboa won the fight
Balboa also lost a split decision in Rocky 1. He also got more credit than he should for a flash knockdown like Francis.
You are literally a bandwagon fan. 🤡
@@dannyzuko7182someone who's actually watched the film 😂
Klitschko was reigning champion and never should have lost to pull up your pants Fury
@dannyzuko7182 cant call it a flash knockdown when fancis controlled most of the fight, and showed the least amount of damage. Also in rocky they were both beat up at the end of the fight. Not this one
Reminds me Brock Lesnar jumping in the octagon and man handling mir, even though he lost. Some guys are good athletes, regardless of sport.
Perfect timing
Chael has too much fun talking about these topics
Tyson Fury looked out of shape, he drastically underestimated Ngannou, simple.
how u can look at francis and underestimate his power, he must have really believed all that bs promo hype lol
To be fair, Fury always looks like shit physically lol.
@@Gammo465 He underestimated his cardio, chin and boxing fundamentals. Fury, I bet thought he would be facing a brawler for 3-4 rounds.
@@robertsimpson2133and his clinch
@@robertsimpson2133 whatever the excuse it falls on furys shoulders, if someone isnt trained enough to get out alive from a lion cage, its the man problem not his mother's to not provide him enough food to manhandle the lion
I’ve been saying this for years. It’s all about who’s the better athlete and who’s more prepared for that night. Athleticism in freak territory can trump technique. And the best have both in mainstream sports. Football and basketball and to an extent wrestling and baseball have the best athletes this country can offer because of the money. Followed by fighting, than all the other sports are far behind. But, I think to be a true pro or a true college wrestler u need to have years of training under you. I think with good athletes the striking from mma just Carries over better for them
Ngannou looked like a bum when a heavyweight boxer ACTUALLY prepared for a fight
Anything else you wanna say tdawg 😏?
"The scams keep going, the boards keep being glued together.." 😂😂😂
Boxing is the new Nascar
your point on wrestling is super spot on. I think Max and Kelvin and O'Mally can walk in the boxing ring, but not the elite wrestling mat.
Chael has something to beef on now i love it
I always imagined how awesome Bo Jackson could have been had he trained mma today with his natural born athleticism
Herschel Walker did MMA and was undefeated, they wouldn't let him compete anymore because of his age.
Neh, you don't get to do that. You doubted the man from day one because you're still riding Dana White Cowgirl, Tyson Fury has been lucky, he doesn't represent Boxing as a whole, its why he's dodging real fights....And Francis is a Monster this doesn't prove Boxing is fake, it proves Francist is a REAL
Chael I love You man from Poland! But I think You partly right Champ. Boxing sucks nowadays. Watch old good times fights like Lennox vs Mercer or Holyfield vs Toney for example. Those are incredible tough real true combat technical wars! I salute You Sir! 🌝💚🙏
The biggest thing people don’t ever seem to get is a fight is just that a fight. I’ve seen some technical strikers that man sparring they look good, ridiculous mitt work. Guess what when those punches are coming for real they fold. And I’ve seen some guys that when they train it’s just ugly but when it’s time for violence they just flip a switch.
Imagine if Francis didn’t have a lot of his youth spent in the mines and homeless trying to make it out, man he’s scary already.
Holyfield is a good example of someone who excelled because he was an athlete. He left opportunity for football to box
Chael on the money as always.
Cheal you gotta new fan 👌🏾
I am studying boxing again at 55 and use it in MT fights often to win and I even used it on the street a month ago with a drunk guy mouthing off and one cross and that was all over. I have a blue belt in bjj and have used it twice to shut down fights, but stayed on my feet and got tired of studying every possible sleeve grip by the Gracies after four years. Boxing is brutal and works well.
I'd like to fight you I am in England.
Stop it just by you telling us you knocked a drunk guy out with a cross lol we know you lying 😂😂😂
Sonnen, somehow, watched a 40-year-old Mayweather who hadn't fought in 2 years and who came into the fight admitting to half-assing his preparation, who absorbed a grand total of 3 clean punches over the course of the fight, and who won the match via stoppage, and concluded that the other guy, the one who landed but 3 punches before himself getting stopped, beat Mayweather up.
Thus, his (Sonnen's) judgement is now officially suspect. *You have to understand how it breaks my heart to say that.*
He is trolling mate. You are supposed to over look this as a Sonnen fan and cheer uncle chale on in his correctness.
Conor shouldn't have lasted as long as he did though. And we both agree that "Pretty boy Floyd" would of merked Conor in a couple of rounds. But the point stands that MMA and boxing are still 2 separate sports and picking arguably the best boxer in the world to go against in your debut is a massive feat.
How dare you. lol!
@@uncircumcisedcircusFloyd carried that man for the sake of making more money 😂 the kids that box in Floyd’s gym would dog walk Connor in a few rounds. This is coming from a Conor fan. The person who said Chael is trolling is absolutely correct 😂
@@uncircumcisedcircus Agree, absolutely.
Feel you my boy
It’s crazy that after all the L’s MMA guys took in boxing that one “win” makes everyone forget🤣.
Boxing is getting a taste of the disrespect wing Chun has been getting from boxing for decades
@@squealerpig8451 Wing Chun actually sucks though.
@@SavageHanmano the guys were just smaller, a big strong dude will mess you up.
@@squealerpig8451 no. Wing Chin and the majority of Chinese martial arts aren’t useful. I love the way Wing Chun looks and plays out but it’s definitely not worth investing time in learning if you want to be a legitimate fighter.
@@SavageHanma if you want to fight mma and love Chinese martial arts sanda would be the way to go no wasting time on things like weapons and you can test your skills in competition
Chael sonnen the man of the hour to sweet to be sour
I still enjoy a good Boxing match However, you make some great points about Boxing And you're entertaining as hell to listen to. Thank you
There’s gotta be something to us, the loyal fan base of Uncle Chael, that we’re able to, and often consensually willing to, get gaslighted to on a regular basis. That is all. Keep it up, Champ. Undefeated and Undisputed.
This video aged like milk.
He's really pouring it on like milk too 😂
Only Uncle Chael can defeat himself and remain undefeated. Legend
Dewey Cooper was Jesse Vargas’ trainer when he win the world title against Saddam Ali…he works with a lot of pro boxers in Vegas
chael gonna start boxing tomorrow, champion by end of next week.
Francis is a freak of nature and basically a unicorn in combat sports. I recall someone by the name of Brock Lesnar coming into the UFC and gaining the heavyweight title with only WWE experience, so it works probably in any sports, not just boxing. Boxing doesn't suck, just some people are freaks of nature and can take on even the most experienced fighters.
"only wwe experience". No bro it wasn't his years of fake wrassling....
He was an NCAA all American and national champion. High school and college wrestling.
WWE 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The difference is MMA is an art, and boxing is a "science". MMA is chess, and boxing is checkers.
To be beat by a child prodigy in chess is understandable because it's much more of a complex game. But to be beat by a child prodigy in CHECKERS is so much more embarrassing because the rules and possible outcomes are so much easier to see. It's like letting your kids beat you at tik tac toe. 😂😂😂
This didn't age very well .
Sensei Sonnen tell the world what it needs to hear
Same reason any top D1 wrestler can walk into a jiu jitsu gym and within a couple of weeks submit anyone in the gym. The athleticism is higher, the skills from before translate very well, and the beginner is using proven fundamentals because those are the first you learn.
Just had to come and comment on this after AJ sent Francis to the shadow realm 😂
Boxing is fake! Says the MMA expert who also relies on boxing when he's fighting.
Thanks to Anthony Joshua for saving boxing by KTFO Francis Ngannou and sending him to the shadow realm. Ngannou will never be the same. I am an MMA fan, BTW so no bias.
@@2ZZGE100 Hell yeah