We even rarely see the comparison between Hamilton and Bottas😂 That is luxurious to have such comparison and to make it better, George was the one with better performance.
Lewis will have a real handful next year in George. Add Max and the rest of them to that, and LH will have a fun time proving that he's still the best. Can't wait.
No big deal if comparing the best and the worst, that way I saw many comparisions between them. Thing is we compare here how Williams was faster than Merc and that's ridiculous. :)
Rain has never equalised the grid like the dry the rain benifits some more than others what it does do is takes away the necesity of power and downforce
@@utuberme1 what are u on about I said rain suits some cars more than others that means nothing about who’s the best Lewis had a dry set up which is why he couldn’t get on the curbs and gained in the fast sections but in ley com he was 3 tenths slower and in the first half of the lap 5 tenths slower but then in second half of lap he brought it almost all the way back mercs were in the drop zone in q2 and we’re struggling loads it’s just about who has the right set up and who hooks up a perfect lap and the person that got it all right was George then max who had a downforce heavy set up
@@thatdudecandrive4252 To be fair both Red Bull and Mercedes had an "intermediate" setup for dry and wet conditions, since Red Bull used the same rear wing in Free Practice and qualyfing, the only cars with a setup with high downforce were the McLarens and Williams, and Williams went for even more downforce.
You have to give credit to the guys at Williams too. They really delivered a car that could compete with the perfect setup. . It's overlooked, but Latifi also managed a sensational qualifying performance.
@@deezelkane why is it an embarrassment? He beat Lewis fair and square in difficult conditions and in inferior machinery. Lewis should be the one embarrassed lol
Ziggo analyst Robert Doornbos made a comparison the other day between George's and Max's final lap. It turned out that George was basically ahead of Max during the whole qualification lap. Only at the last Bus Stop chicane did Max overtake him. Which really confirms how impressive that lap of George was.
I listend to BBC Radio 5 Live on Sunday for the race coverage at Spa. You, Jack and Andrew really kept it together for hours. I thoroughly enjoyed everything, from chess, to cheese, to MX5 racing in the wet, unable to keep up with the safety car. In my opinion they should give you all a reward for an incredible entertaining programme in very difficult circumstances. Well done and regards from David.
@@SC.KINGDOM Agreed. I listen to the Jack Nicholls, Jolyon Palmer, and Andrew Benson while I watch the race on television. A friend of mine works for the Met Office, and the weather forecast for Zandvoort is dry and sunny.
Jolyon Palmer's spitting bars: "You got Hamilton in the red, Russell in the blue...and what's interesting here is the straight-line speed difference between the two."
Who knows? Maybe Russell would have been able to win the race, had it been started if just a little less rain and more visibility was there. That would have been an enormous challenge against Verstappen and Hamilton, who are not ony the 2 drivers fighting for the title, but also probably the 2 best drivers in the rain. Just imagine the madness of a win like this ! Can only imagine sadly, we'll never know if he would have finished somewhere in the points but far from victory or if he would have been able to do a series of such phenomenal laps and win the thing. Because sadly I think his podium is worth nothing. There was no race, it's just a quali turned into the whole thing. A 1 lap contest as a GP. Even Tiago Monteiro's Indianapolis 2005 podium has more value... :/
@@hugolouessard3914 true, i would have loved to see them race in a Wet Spa , who knows maybe Danial Who have gotten hos much awaited podium, maybe Seb would have gotten yet another podium, maybe Bottas would take out another red bull, sadly we will never know
@@hugolouessard3914 I reckon max would have won it. I'm not doubting George's ability by any means, but I don't think he had the pace in the car to keep ahead of Max or Lewis. It was a phenomenal qualy lap from George
I read somewhere that George knew he'd done a great lap but thought he would be about P7 or P6; he was obviously overjoyed to find that he'd actually got P2
Basically, Russell was able to attack the corners and take much more curb than his rivals because the Williams was running much more downforce, optimized for wet conditions. Merc and Red Bull had a car setup with a potential dry race in mind and hence lower downforce compared to Williams.
The difference in speeds on the straights lets us all know the Williams had more downforce and focused solely on qualifying and would struggle if ever the track dried up.... Front runners have to compromise a bit in qualifying to have enough pace in case it does dry on Sunday so the set up is a bit more tricky.... That's the nuts and bolts of it. Was this meant up keep the Russell/mercedes narrative going?
Nail on the head. Williams has nothing to lose so they can go all-in on a maximum downforce setup and hope for rain on both Saturday and Sunday. It was very aoparant they did just that with that huge rear wing that even I could spot immediately in Q1
Indeed it was .. we all know how these Brits are going nuts over Russell and Norris ...seems like they have abandoned Hamilton for being part English ..or they didn't remember ...Hulkenberg did the same in Brazil in a Williams ..that time these Brits commentators praised Williams strategy for that pole by nico
What caught my eye, is the difference in handling the corners. Hamilton is, as you'd expect, much calmer in steering movements, taking no huge risks. Russell, on the other hand, is much more 'fighting' the car in every corner, taking the more aggressive approach. It's the same with every Hamilton/Verstappen comparison we see regularly. That's where you see the difference in experience between the two (three) drivers. The youngsters are attacking every corner, taking a lot of risk, but also gaining lots of time if it works out. Meanwhile, the experienced drivers take a more sensible approach, and rely on their car and their setup. It's very interesting to see.
Also has a lot to do with stability… whenever the car is on rails, both will drive clean, but since the merc has been on rails for years, there was less need for attacking a corner, cause the best line is always an option to be taken cleanly, bc of the car’s stability
Phenomenal lap by Russell but the fact Russell isn’t fighting for a championship and can take risks with very little worry about the consequences of a crash where as Lewis is leading the championship doesn’t want to risk a top 4 start by crashing out
Probably the most impressive part is how Russell uses throttle to control the rear of the car and oversteer. That kind of rear control by throttle is something you would see from Schumacher and Senna. Not many can do it with such accuracy. You could really see him not reacting to the oversteer, but actively anticipating it with his throttle control.
Mercedes messed up with their setup. They were relying on dry conditions to come which obviously never came and also too focused on the race even when forecast said rain will get heavier as the weekend progressed.
@@mikelitoris6315 Hamilton taking less chances because he is in a close Championship fight whereas George took more chances is not an excuse but a fact. Only next year will tell and I see a Nico Vs Hamilton 2.0 and Senna Vs Prost type battle. With the new regulations it's not even guarantee Merc will be contenders. Only time will tell who adapts fastest to the new regulations
This was otherworldly! Must have felt like an out-of-body experience for RUS. Given the handling issues of the _FW43B,_ laid bare by the onboards here, the level of risk he takes putting the car on the kerbs was doubly insane! I would have liked to also have seen a comparison to VER's pole lap.
30 years ago another young driver made a sensational lap in quali at the same venue... we all know the historical rest... hope Mr. Russel can do same type of things in future
I’m very very unqualified to comment on any driving terms but for me, just watching George do that lap... I knew it was a beautiful one. There was just something so beautiful and precise about it 💖❤️ gorgeous one, George
yup and williams went for an all or nothing approach and didn't set a banker to have the perfect tyres whereas merc and rb obviously have to play it safe
Let’s not pretend the merc is faster in a straight JUST because it was carrying less downforce. Anyone in the know will tell you the merc is not only far more aerodynamically efficient and less draggy for any given level of downforce relative to a Williams, but also the Merc factory PU uses the Petronas fuels and lubricants it was designed with, and everyone knows it therefore develops marginally more power than its customer teams.
The evidence is clear, and the matter, settled law. Whether you understand or are unwillingly to accept the results are to no affect. It really doesn't matter, or require a reply...it is an empty restort made upon deaf ears...but, it does demonstrate emotional frailties...
@@blackgirlsrock264 obviously and will be for the rest of the season. He crashed Max out of the race without a serious penalty to improve 25 points. You must have the brains of a peanut to expect ppl forget that in weeks.
Exceptional Q3 lap from Russell really took the bull by the horns - fantastic. However, I think the difference between Russell's approach and Hamilton's was that Hamilton is in a championship fight, and had to take fewer chances. As for Verstappen, he can only drive one way win or lose, that's flat out.
Another big difference I find out is that Hamilton's steering is more stable/precise while Russel is constantly changing the angle. Is this how Russel's finding the grip or adapting to the wet track?
Hamilton play safe in the corner and mercedes is always a more stable car. Williams however is far more erratic and slower overall. So it is Russell that did a difference (or maybe hamilton's blunder)
Just shows how George explored different lines on the wet track I can only assume Georges car was set up wholly for a wet track with higher down force and any other tweeks to help
Also Russell did 2 warmup laps on tire so he had more heat into it and he did the push lap last so he had more grip and made it worth risk and put in a awesome performance
This analysis also needs to account for the fact that Russel has nothing to lose and can afford to be more aggressive, for him being 10th in the Williams is already a win. Lewis on the other hand has a lot to lose and being 10th is a big loss when compared to taking less risks and being 2nd or 3rd. Not taking anything from Russel, lots of talent, but it's an important factor to consider when comparing the laps under those circumstances.
George Russell in the 2nd Mercedes next year, replacing Bottas. That would make for an interesting season. How would Hammy do battling a young teammate for superiority in the team as well as Max for the championship. Probably a 3-way championship battle.
Difference is speed with same engine is also likely due to drag, not due to setup, but due to the lines in the car. The engine is not running on its own on that straight.
Mercedes gamble with a low down force in what was Sunday wet conditions didn't pay off with a more dry set up. If the Merc guys had set up Hamilton's car as for wet conditions qualifying results would have been very different. With that being said, Russell pulled off a very remarkable qualifying lap.
Why would Merc opt for a low downforce setup when rain was like predicted for whole 3 days. I think it was just that Williams ran an ultra high downforce setup. Besides George was purple in sector 1 where the Merc with a low downforce should dominate. That shows that it was drivers skill mostly.
@@hiran4935 They Gambled in the wrong direction based on the philosophy I believe that you cant do the same equally and expect to beat your opponent. Mercedes were banking on the afternoon to be mostly dry based on whatever they saw as precipitation %. They are the only ones that really know why.. But based on what has happened, I am willing to wager that RB's overall pace in the dry is not a quick as the Mercs as they have more aero grip but are down on straight line pace. Lewis set up his car to take advantage of that which is to pass anyone in front of him which Spa present many opportunities. The Merc there for was set up for dry/mixed conditions rather than a monsoon.
Maybe slightly better tires as a result" Mate George was on a used sets of inters from his 1st outing in q1. He had 3 laps in q1 + his 2 outlap in q3 on them. & he also slightly locked up in 2 corners mostly due to old tires So if he had 1 more set of inters available he would have easily been on pole.
"Max was 'there.'" Yeah Max was 3 tenths up, not just "there." Bomb lap from Russell but all things equal and Russell out of the equation, Max eclipsed Lewis.
That’s exactly what I was thinking..Russell out did Hamilton yes but marginally..the real amazing lap was Max’s that’s the one they should’ve showed the reason theyre hyping it up is just because it’s russell and it’s a Williams and it adds to the Mercedes second seat controversy but all in all it was the first corner that made and broke Russell’s and Hamilton’s Laps respectively. What I really wanted to see was how max managed 3tenrhs in the wet.
@@ScottCyclops okay so it was a bit of an exaggeration but when you stack it with the rest of the field it wasn't an average lap either. My point is it was far more deserving than a 'max was there' kind of comment, as if the gap between him and Lewis was comparable to Lewis and Russell.
@@laughsandwich3842 agreed. But its a British pundit though, so it's to be expected. However, the star of quali was Russell for sure. If only Lando put a lap together instead of taking the barrier apart.
The best lap of all time? It is an amazing lap in a car with a great set up. No questions asked. Stil .3 of a second of from the best lap on saturday, just saying.
If you pause @ 07:52, or re watch the hold comparison cam, you will found out that Russell is putting more effort on the steering control. All the corner Russell seem facing tons of over-steer under-steer, but he nailed it. TBH, if Wolf didn't consider to given him the second seat in 2022, is just BS.
If George goes to Mercedes, it reminds me ,a little, of what happened at ferrari with Michael and Kimi. Michael was still in his prime, but was nearer the end of his career, like hamilton. Ferrari needed a young fast guy to take over when michael left, the same as mercedes need a young guy to take over from lewis, when he leaves. I would imagine both michael and lewis didn’t want these hotshots coming into “their” team, but michael left and we never got to see how he would have got on racing against kimi, but the beauty of lewis staying and george joining ( if he does!) is we will get to see how well they go against each other. Its going to be worth watching, thats for sure!
Genuine question here.. To what extent does the rain equalize the cars exactly. Because if it equals them almost completely, I don't understand why Max' lap isn't praised and reviewed by everyone. George was amazing and very impressive, but 3 tenths is still quicker.. 🤷 So does this gap come from car performance or driver skill? If the answer is car performance, I understand why we're all, including me, so hyped about George's lap. If not, why not review Max' lap, because it's quicker? 🤔
Lando also used kerbs, and in simulators in the rain, kerbs gives more grip, i want to know the physics behind this, cause looks a bad choice but pays off
It’s great explanation when it comes racing lines but 50% of the reason other than that is throttle and breaking, with that we will be able to get much more information and get understanding on performance of George Russel
The Williams maybe did a better job than most of the teams in Spa, probably because they were the only drivers with the inters at the start of Q1, so Russell and Latifi had a better feel of the track. So, props to the tactics team of Williams.
Are we serious here? To call that pole one off the greatest laps did we start watching f1 yesterday?? Comon man I know you guys wants to pump up George but really one of the greatest laps? I think the media is stretching right about now.
Palmer, you didn't mention the downforce setups of both cars. Lewis went for straight line speed to avoid being a sitting duck and with drs can possibly overtake.
One thing I noticed was that George was working the car quite hard, lots of wheel movement, catching the car early, he looks like he's pushing. Lewis doesn't have that, his wheel movements are more gentle, very little fight. It almost looks like he isn't trying. (Although I suspect it's more that the Merc handles far nicer than a williams than he isn't trying) Superb lap, was it the quickest? no. Was it done in the 17th slowest car on the grid to put it on p2, Yes.
I'm really hoping that we are going to see Williams moving further and further to the top end of the grid now they are not in mountains of debt and investment in the team has come. If George doesn't get the Merc seat, maybe he won't be too disapointed if they find they are in one of the top cars in the next couple of seasons. And how do we konw Mercedes are going to get it right with their cars with the technical rule change?
@@ia303 oh is it ?? What about other drivers. I expect British press should also talk about other drivers. They keep on talking about George and Lando all day every day. As if there are no other drivers.
More impressive did in one lap. Pressure on the lap itself and usually takes more than 1 push lap to get inters to perform at there best. And of course in 8th fastest car too.
Im curious how did the gap between russell and latifi compare in spa to the season average? Latifi also qualified unusually high, seemed like williams took big gambles with the setup.
i think we're seeing the difference between a driver with nothing to lose and a driver who wont/cant take these risks, or risk putting himself in the wall.
Who would have thought that we would see a Russell vs. Hamilton lap comparison this year already
Getting us ready for many of them next year! 😍
We even rarely see the comparison between Hamilton and Bottas😂 That is luxurious to have such comparison and to make it better, George was the one with better performance.
It's a signal
Every time I hear the Williams garage go nuts, it makes me smile.
Yeah, that must be a pretty special thing for a driver to hear over the radio
Those guys have been through a lot…nice to see them get a biscuit once in a while.
Same
Anytime the Williams crew go nuts
The Williams fans too
same underdog mate
George only had 1 shot in Q3 and he executed it beautifully, still stunned by his flawless performance.
Reminds me of Vettel's lap long in his red bull days.
Yeah, Seb was often destroying others with his one lap stints
Lewis will have a real handful next year in George. Add Max and the rest of them to that, and LH will have a fun time proving that he's still the best. Can't wait.
If someone told me in 2019 that we'll be comparing quali laps between Mercedes and Williams i'd laugh
heck if you told me that in 2020 I’d laugh
@@blufferfish0896 heck if you'd told me that 6 weeks ago
Heck if you told me that a week ago
No big deal if comparing the best and the worst, that way I saw many comparisions between them. Thing is we compare here how Williams was faster than Merc and that's ridiculous. :)
@@EllaGP22 true dat
The rain really did a hefty job of "Equalizing" the grid
Rain has never equalised the grid like the dry the rain benifits some more than others what it does do is takes away the necesity of power and downforce
Max's the best then.
@@utuberme1 what are u on about I said rain suits some cars more than others that means nothing about who’s the best Lewis had a dry set up which is why he couldn’t get on the curbs and gained in the fast sections but in ley com he was 3 tenths slower and in the first half of the lap 5 tenths slower but then in second half of lap he brought it almost all the way back mercs were in the drop zone in q2 and we’re struggling loads it’s just about who has the right set up and who hooks up a perfect lap and the person that got it all right was George then max who had a downforce heavy set up
@@utuberme1 What Thatdudecandrive said
@@thatdudecandrive4252 To be fair both Red Bull and Mercedes had an "intermediate" setup for dry and wet conditions, since Red Bull used the same rear wing in Free Practice and qualyfing, the only cars with a setup with high downforce were the McLarens and Williams, and Williams went for even more downforce.
The first sector from Russell is absolutely spectacular. Basically putting his life on the line attacking every apex. Amazing lap.
yeah also right before the bus stop he was even ahead on Max. But that lock up costed him the pole. Which is quite insane tbh
That's the word right there, "putting his life on the line".
Meh
That’s Senna-esque behavior
You have to give credit to the guys at Williams too. They really delivered a car that could compete with the perfect setup. . It's overlooked, but Latifi also managed a sensational qualifying performance.
I legit thought Latifi was gonna hit Q3 as well tbf
I thought both Williams would’ve gotten q3 at one point. Latifi is an underrated driver honestly.
@@manfromwuhan714 while I sorta agree, in two years Latifi has still never out qualified Russell.
Latifi is not a f1 level.
@@cyberbeat11 that's why he regularly makes q2 in a Williams, not f1 level, right?
First time this year I didn’t want verstappen to get pole
im a dutchman, and i even agree
Say what you want, he needs to hand his second place trophy back- and his points. Embarrassment
@@deezelkane why is it an embarrassment? He beat Lewis fair and square in difficult conditions and in inferior machinery. Lewis should be the one embarrassed lol
@@deezelkane Mercedes fanboy
@@deezelkane salty😂
Russel not getting points for two years, and then getting a podium out qualifying a Lewis Hamilton.
Like they say: When it rains, it pours
Certainly did at spa at least
One of them is a 7 time world champion
@@arnoldanobah3367 which makes it even worse… right?😂😂😂
@@arnoldanobah3367 one is in his late 30s and the other is in his 20s
Lewis is overrated according to all non-fanboys, obv best car ever. Much more respect for Rusell, we know what he did in that mercedes
Ziggo analyst Robert Doornbos made a comparison the other day between George's and Max's final lap. It turned out that George was basically ahead of Max during the whole qualification lap. Only at the last Bus Stop chicane did Max overtake him. Which really confirms how impressive that lap of George was.
And I saw that happen and thought he had blew it
Lando could have had them all !
@@family-accountemail9111 could, could yeah but he took the most risk al qualifying of all the drivers and then its just waiting when a crash happens
And you think doornbos does this himself hahaha. He gets the content from TH-cam
@@family-accountemail9111 I mean, who's at fault on Lando's crash?
I listend to BBC Radio 5 Live on Sunday for the race coverage at Spa. You, Jack and Andrew really kept it together for hours. I thoroughly enjoyed everything, from chess, to cheese, to MX5 racing in the wet, unable to keep up with the safety car. In my opinion they should give you all a reward for an incredible entertaining programme in very difficult circumstances. Well done and regards from David.
How can I tune in to BBC Radio 5?
@@carlosprieto2231 bbc sounds app.
Better than listening to David Croft xD
@@SC.KINGDOM Agreed. I listen to the Jack Nicholls, Jolyon Palmer, and Andrew Benson while I watch the race on television. A friend of mine works for the Met Office, and the weather forecast for Zandvoort is dry and sunny.
Gives us 2 Mercs or 2 Red Bulls comparisons, I'm interested seeing why there is such a big difference. Please :D
Its all a scam all sport is
Jolyon Palmer's spitting bars: "You got Hamilton in the red, Russell in the blue...and what's interesting here is the straight-line speed difference between the two."
yoooo
lil palmer
More like a love poem
@@dolzzzani g
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George is the talking point, but surely F1 should post the fastest lap by Mazepin!
Thank you for pointing this out, I had completely forgotten.
Lol
DHL Fastest Lap Award - Mazepin
This reminded me when Seb got a Pole Position in a Torro Rosso in the Wet.
didnt he win that race?
@@koen6903 yes, monza 2008
Who knows? Maybe Russell would have been able to win the race, had it been started if just a little less rain and more visibility was there.
That would have been an enormous challenge against Verstappen and Hamilton, who are not ony the 2 drivers fighting for the title, but also probably the 2 best drivers in the rain. Just imagine the madness of a win like this ! Can only imagine sadly, we'll never know if he would have finished somewhere in the points but far from victory or if he would have been able to do a series of such phenomenal laps and win the thing.
Because sadly I think his podium is worth nothing. There was no race, it's just a quali turned into the whole thing. A 1 lap contest as a GP. Even Tiago Monteiro's Indianapolis 2005 podium has more value... :/
@@hugolouessard3914 true, i would have loved to see them race in a Wet Spa , who knows maybe Danial Who have gotten hos much awaited podium, maybe Seb would have gotten yet another podium, maybe Bottas would take out another red bull, sadly we will never know
@@hugolouessard3914 I reckon max would have won it. I'm not doubting George's ability by any means, but I don't think he had the pace in the car to keep ahead of Max or Lewis. It was a phenomenal qualy lap from George
Personally I feel Mazepin's fastest lap in the worst car on the grid is the best of all time
I read somewhere that George knew he'd done a great lap but thought he would be about P7 or P6; he was obviously overjoyed to find that he'd actually got P2
George was definitely working a lot harder on the steering. Almost twice as active on it.
Basically, Russell was able to attack the corners and take much more curb than his rivals because the Williams was running much more downforce, optimized for wet conditions. Merc and Red Bull had a car setup with a potential dry race in mind and hence lower downforce compared to Williams.
Also, Russell had nothing to lose. Even if he crashed and qualified P9, that's a decent result for Williams
So Williams were just a better team in predicting weather overall then?
100%
Exactly. The gushing over Russell anytime he does anything is getting so tiresome.
Car makes so much difference. George has so much more steering movement/correction compared to Hamilton in Merc.
It's also Lewis' smoother driving style. He rarely over corrects and mostly goes with one smooth input on the wheel in corners
@@JNST2023 You really dont know anything about formula 1
@@erikdejong9728 you really don't know anything about F1
I can only imagine how euphoric it was in the Williams garage by the end of Q3, really really stunning performance.
The difference in speeds on the straights lets us all know the Williams had more downforce and focused solely on qualifying and would struggle if ever the track dried up.... Front runners have to compromise a bit in qualifying to have enough pace in case it does dry on Sunday so the set up is a bit more tricky.... That's the nuts and bolts of it. Was this meant up keep the Russell/mercedes narrative going?
Even with that, it's not everyday we see this happening
I think it’s called grasping at straws.
Nail on the head. Williams has nothing to lose so they can go all-in on a maximum downforce setup and hope for rain on both Saturday and Sunday. It was very aoparant they did just that with that huge rear wing that even I could spot immediately in Q1
Well why wouldn’t the Russell Mercedes narrative keep on going? It’s looking very likely at this point that he’s going to merc for 2022
Indeed it was .. we all know how these Brits are going nuts over Russell and Norris ...seems like they have abandoned Hamilton for being part English ..or they didn't remember ...Hulkenberg did the same in Brazil in a Williams ..that time these Brits commentators praised Williams strategy for that pole by nico
After t1 George looked to have almost one second on Lewis
What caught my eye, is the difference in handling the corners. Hamilton is, as you'd expect, much calmer in steering movements, taking no huge risks. Russell, on the other hand, is much more 'fighting' the car in every corner, taking the more aggressive approach. It's the same with every Hamilton/Verstappen comparison we see regularly.
That's where you see the difference in experience between the two (three) drivers. The youngsters are attacking every corner, taking a lot of risk, but also gaining lots of time if it works out. Meanwhile, the experienced drivers take a more sensible approach, and rely on their car and their setup.
It's very interesting to see.
Also has a lot to do with stability… whenever the car is on rails, both will drive clean, but since the merc has been on rails for years, there was less need for attacking a corner, cause the best line is always an option to be taken cleanly, bc of the car’s stability
It's just that Hamilton has no need to go over the edge trying to fight the car, as the car is (at least was until this year) the quickest by far.
I would've said that Alonso drives aggressively too, but then I remembered that he's a rookie.
Next video: Analysis of Mazepin's fastest lap during the Belgium Grand Prix.
Phenomenal lap by Russell but the fact Russell isn’t fighting for a championship and can take risks with very little worry about the consequences of a crash where as Lewis is leading the championship doesn’t want to risk a top 4 start by crashing out
Probably the most impressive part is how Russell uses throttle to control the rear of the car and oversteer. That kind of rear control by throttle is something you would see from Schumacher and Senna. Not many can do it with such accuracy. You could really see him not reacting to the oversteer, but actively anticipating it with his throttle control.
Palmer´s analysis was longer than the actual "race" 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣
But just as boring.
Mercedes messed up with their setup. They were relying on dry conditions to come which obviously never came and also too focused on the race even when forecast said rain will get heavier as the weekend progressed.
No excuses
No Lewis messed the first corner. He lost like 0.3 seconds there
@@hiran4935 Sorry that classifies as an excuse.
@@mikelitoris6315 huh? I wasn't giving excuses. It was Hamiltons fault obviously.
@@mikelitoris6315 Hamilton taking less chances because he is in a close Championship fight whereas George took more chances is not an excuse but a fact. Only next year will tell and I see a Nico Vs Hamilton 2.0 and Senna Vs Prost type battle. With the new regulations it's not even guarantee Merc will be contenders. Only time will tell who adapts fastest to the new regulations
Such an amazing and courageous lap from George. He deserves that Merc seat all the way. Chapeau!
Based on one qualifying? Seriously?
@@blackgirlsrock264 And several other Q3 appearances in a Williams.
@@blackgirlsrock264 can you say bottas deserves to be there though? Honestly
Popular Opinion: Every single one of y'all agrees Palmer Analysis made our Day much better:
Rain did bring the cars back together.
Sector 1, that's about it. He figured out the inside corner of turn 1 was dry enough or bansai'ed it hoping for the best.
This was otherworldly! Must have felt like an out-of-body experience for RUS.
Given the handling issues of the _FW43B,_ laid bare by the onboards here, the level of risk he takes putting the car on the kerbs was doubly insane! I would have liked to also have seen a comparison to VER's pole lap.
Well he thought he was 6 or 7th, so no.
30 years ago another young driver made a sensational lap in quali at the same venue... we all know the historical rest...
hope Mr. Russel can do same type of things in future
I’m very very unqualified to comment on any driving terms but for me, just watching George do that lap... I knew it was a beautiful one. There was just something so beautiful and precise about it 💖❤️ gorgeous one, George
Williams bet on a full wet setup, and Mercedes had a compromise?
Exactly. Dito for Red Bull.
Yes
yup and williams went for an all or nothing approach and didn't set a banker to have the perfect tyres whereas merc and rb obviously have to play it safe
yeah, back field always risks more, last week pay off BIG.
Let’s not pretend the merc is faster in a straight JUST because it was carrying less downforce.
Anyone in the know will tell you the merc is not only far more aerodynamically efficient and less draggy for any given level of downforce relative to a Williams, but also the Merc factory PU uses the Petronas fuels and lubricants it was designed with, and everyone knows it therefore develops marginally more power than its customer teams.
Doesn't Williams use Petronas? I'm pretty sure Mercedes requires the teams using their power plant to use it.
Ever since the moment I've been waiting for this breakdown- THANK YOU!
Can you do a segment asking if Hamilton's punt of Verstappen in Silverstone was the best of all time?
Max fans still can't get over it?
Still salty? Lol!🍼🍼
The evidence is clear, and the matter, settled law. Whether you understand or are unwillingly to accept the results are to no affect. It really doesn't matter, or require a reply...it is an empty restort made upon deaf ears...but, it does demonstrate emotional frailties...
@@blackgirlsrock264 obviously and will be for the rest of the season. He crashed Max out of the race without a serious penalty to improve 25 points. You must have the brains of a peanut to expect ppl forget that in weeks.
Analysis about qualifying….what have we come to 😂
Thanks for the side by side and analysis!
George Russel has done amazing job for Williams back to back points for the last two races he has been amazing.
Exceptional Q3 lap from Russell really took the bull by the horns - fantastic. However, I think the difference between Russell's approach and Hamilton's was that Hamilton is in a championship fight, and had to take fewer chances. As for Verstappen, he can only drive one way win or lose, that's flat out.
ahh how awesome would it have been to see Lando also start in the top 3 with George
Most likely taking pole. He was superb in the first 2 sessions
The straight line speed difference is insane. Hamilton should be worried about Russel next year.
He's already crying about it I've heard 😆
The way Lando and George were taking all of that curb in the wet is something I would never even dare or consider to do in such situations
2008 Vettel in the Toro Rosso at Monza was magical. Then won on merit to make it even sweeter.
Another big difference I find out is that
Hamilton's steering is more stable/precise while Russel is constantly changing the angle. Is this how Russel's finding the grip or adapting to the wet track?
Hamilton play safe in the corner and mercedes is always a more stable car. Williams however is far more erratic and slower overall. So it is Russell that did a difference (or maybe hamilton's blunder)
This is the highlight of the year IMO. Just incredible.
Just shows how George explored different lines on the wet track
I can only assume Georges car was set up wholly for a wet track with higher down force and any other tweeks to help
Excellent explanation.
Also Russell did 2 warmup laps on tire so he had more heat into it and he did the push lap last so he had more grip and made it worth risk and put in a awesome performance
Would have liked to see a comparison with Verstappen as well, cheers!
There is on another post
In my opinion the best Qualifying lap of all time was Vettels Monza Lap in 2008
Nah.. Senna out qualifying Prost by 1.5 seconds is still the best. Prost was an excellent driver, so that achievement might never be beaten.
Hamilton wet quali at styria 2020
Guess you haven't watched senna's famous Monaco pole lap
@@azynkron Prost was setting up his cars for race day bruh
That's overrated look where his teammate qualified.
can you do one on the last flying lap that lando did in Q2?
MANNNN i WISH we could get more of that telemetry data to nerd out and study it all in more detail
i'm a big Red Bull/Max fan, but Lewis' lap at Singapore 2018 was actually insane!
Yeah was thinking the same thing, I think this lap by George will be forever remembered as is Lewis' Singapore lap. On another level.
Even im a redbull fan but i cant say
RUSSEL DID A MIRACLE in qualifyingg
Max's lap was comparable to Lewis' in Singapore 2018. He outqualified Ricciardo by almost a full second.
This analysis also needs to account for the fact that Russel has nothing to lose and can afford to be more aggressive, for him being 10th in the Williams is already a win. Lewis on the other hand has a lot to lose and being 10th is a big loss when compared to taking less risks and being 2nd or 3rd. Not taking anything from Russel, lots of talent, but it's an important factor to consider when comparing the laps under those circumstances.
A bit of an exaggeration. If it was the greatest or one of the greatest he would have had P1.
This comparison came faster than expected...the champ and future champ
George Russell in the 2nd Mercedes next year, replacing Bottas. That would make for an interesting season. How would Hammy do battling a young teammate for superiority in the team as well as Max for the championship. Probably a 3-way championship battle.
Difference is speed with same engine is also likely due to drag, not due to setup, but due to the lines in the car. The engine is not running on its own on that straight.
Mercedes gamble with a low down force in what was Sunday wet conditions didn't pay off with a more dry set up. If the Merc guys had set up Hamilton's car as for wet conditions qualifying results would have been very different. With that being said, Russell pulled off a very remarkable qualifying lap.
Why would Merc opt for a low downforce setup when rain was like predicted for whole 3 days. I think it was just that Williams ran an ultra high downforce setup. Besides George was purple in sector 1 where the Merc with a low downforce should dominate. That shows that it was drivers skill mostly.
@@hiran4935 They Gambled in the wrong direction based on the philosophy I believe that you cant do the same equally and expect to beat your opponent. Mercedes were banking on the afternoon to be mostly dry based on whatever they saw as precipitation %. They are the only ones that really know why.. But based on what has happened, I am willing to wager that RB's overall pace in the dry is not a quick as the Mercs as they have more aero grip but are down on straight line pace. Lewis set up his car to take advantage of that which is to pass anyone in front of him which Spa present many opportunities. The Merc there for was set up for dry/mixed conditions rather than a monsoon.
Maybe slightly better tires as a result" Mate George was on a used sets of inters from his 1st outing in q1. He had 3 laps in q1 + his 2 outlap in q3 on them. & he also slightly locked up in 2 corners mostly due to old tires So if he had 1 more set of inters available he would have easily been on pole.
"Max was 'there.'"
Yeah Max was 3 tenths up, not just "there."
Bomb lap from Russell but all things equal and Russell out of the equation, Max eclipsed Lewis.
Eclipsed ! Wow lol ..
3 tenths on a wet track. Eclipse seems a bit stretched lol.
That’s exactly what I was thinking..Russell out did Hamilton yes but marginally..the real amazing lap was Max’s that’s the one they should’ve showed the reason theyre hyping it up is just because it’s russell and it’s a Williams and it adds to the Mercedes second seat controversy but all in all it was the first corner that made and broke Russell’s and Hamilton’s Laps respectively. What I really wanted to see was how max managed 3tenrhs in the wet.
@@ScottCyclops okay so it was a bit of an exaggeration but when you stack it with the rest of the field it wasn't an average lap either. My point is it was far more deserving than a 'max was there' kind of comment, as if the gap between him and Lewis was comparable to Lewis and Russell.
@@laughsandwich3842 agreed. But its a British pundit though, so it's to be expected. However, the star of quali was Russell for sure. If only Lando put a lap together instead of taking the barrier apart.
What's morw brilliant than the lap itself, is the fact that Russel was testing and setting up on the curbs on the test runs
The best lap of all time? It is an amazing lap in a car with a great set up. No questions asked. Stil .3 of a second of from the best lap on saturday, just saying.
Consider the car difference though?
Not really..there where great quali laps before and there will be great quali laps in the future. But to say it was the best quali lap ever..nope
that turn 1 made russel had a huge benefit in that lap
This is Russel basically saying: Curb your superior car.
Not really how that works...
@@y1521t21b5 What a critical observation..
If you pause @ 07:52, or re watch the hold comparison cam, you will found out that Russell is putting more effort on the steering control.
All the corner Russell seem facing tons of over-steer under-steer, but he nailed it.
TBH, if Wolf didn't consider to given him the second seat in 2022, is just BS.
I think it's down to the aero on the merc and Williams... That Williams has a lot of drag compared to Mercedes..
My thoughts exactly. With the same level of downforce, Williams will have considerably more drag. They're just that far behind in car development.
His mis calculation at the last 2 corners costed him pole. He was ahead of max the entire time except at the end. It was closer than you think.
George did a fast-slow-fast lap before his quali lap, that's why he knew which corners to take the less conventional lines.
At 4:44, that precision with Russell's front wheel just on the lip of the sharper part of the kerb. In these conditions, that is awesome.
I am a George fan but this guy is a British homer.
He will be especially partial to British drivers over the grid.
If George goes to Mercedes, it reminds me ,a little, of what happened at ferrari with Michael and Kimi.
Michael was still in his prime, but was nearer the end of his career, like hamilton.
Ferrari needed a young fast guy to take over when michael left, the same as mercedes need a young guy to take over from lewis, when he leaves.
I would imagine both michael and lewis didn’t want these hotshots coming into “their” team, but michael left and we never got to see how he would have got on racing against kimi, but the beauty of lewis staying and george joining ( if he does!) is we will get to see how well they go against each other.
Its going to be worth watching, thats for sure!
Genuine question here..
To what extent does the rain equalize the cars exactly. Because if it equals them almost completely, I don't understand why Max' lap isn't praised and reviewed by everyone. George was amazing and very impressive, but 3 tenths is still quicker.. 🤷
So does this gap come from car performance or driver skill? If the answer is car performance, I understand why we're all, including me, so hyped about George's lap. If not, why not review Max' lap, because it's quicker? 🤔
Lando also used kerbs, and in simulators in the rain, kerbs gives more grip, i want to know the physics behind this, cause looks a bad choice but pays off
Yeah me too coz when u go full throttle on the curbs u usually spin in dry conditions but in the rain its the curbs that give u the grip
@@lekudos Curb is the North American version of the word.
Incredible lap from George in the Williams!
It’s great explanation when it comes racing lines but 50% of the reason other than that is throttle and breaking, with that we will be able to get much more information and get understanding on performance of George Russel
The Williams maybe did a better job than most of the teams in Spa, probably because they were the only drivers with the inters at the start of Q1, so Russell and Latifi had a better feel of the track. So, props to the tactics team of Williams.
Are we serious here? To call that pole one off the greatest laps did we start watching f1 yesterday?? Comon man I know you guys wants to pump up George but really one of the greatest laps? I think the media is stretching right about now.
Overhype of George is a requirement now. Didn’t you get the email?🤣 He’s the savior to dethrone the evil Lewis Hamilton!😈
Palmer, you didn't mention the downforce setups of both cars. Lewis went for straight line speed to avoid being a sitting duck and with drs can possibly overtake.
George still posted an amazing lap, but to be fair Lewis is nursing a championship lead. Max got pole on his final attempt.
the best lap of all tıme ıs and wıll remaın , the pole lap of Sebastian Vettel in Monza 2008
One thing I noticed was that George was working the car quite hard, lots of wheel movement, catching the car early, he looks like he's pushing. Lewis doesn't have that, his wheel movements are more gentle, very little fight. It almost looks like he isn't trying. (Although I suspect it's more that the Merc handles far nicer than a williams than he isn't trying)
Superb lap, was it the quickest? no. Was it done in the 17th slowest car on the grid to put it on p2, Yes.
Well well, Russel vs Hamilton comparison is going to be main stream from next year onwards.
Russell is flying this year🔥🔥
I'm really hoping that we are going to see Williams moving further and further to the top end of the grid now they are not in mountains of debt and investment in the team has come. If George doesn't get the Merc seat, maybe he won't be too disapointed if they find they are in one of the top cars in the next couple of seasons. And how do we konw Mercedes are going to get it right with their cars with the technical rule change?
F1 is fully dominated by British press.
@@ia303 oh is it ?? What about other drivers. I expect British press should also talk about other drivers. They keep on talking about George and Lando all day every day. As if there are no other drivers.
More impressive did in one lap. Pressure on the lap itself and usually takes more than 1 push lap to get inters to perform at there best. And of course in 8th fastest car too.
I thought the Alfas were faster. I might be wrong though.
Im curious how did the gap between russell and latifi compare in spa to the season average? Latifi also qualified unusually high, seemed like williams took big gambles with the setup.
Gotta love how Russell's engineer pauses just before announcing the position.
That's because Max was finishing his lap after George. He literally didn't know whether that's 1st or 2nd for a few seconds
Crofty: "And here comes George Russell" ----- Yesss
i think we're seeing the difference between a driver with nothing to lose and a driver who wont/cant take these risks, or risk putting himself in the wall.
If Latifi, the top 3 slowest driver on the grid can get that Williams in the top 10, that car was PHENOMENAL.
Simply he was lucky
The race was so boring I thought for sure this analysis would be about Hamilton's bog.
@Micah Toilet (English slang).
What race?
Would love to watch F1TV here in Germany